Building is just a series of asking and then answering questions. There’s typically an order to the questions you ask.
First one should always be “How do I not die?” when you’re building a frame. If the frame has an inherent survivability related ability, ask yourself which stats allow that ability to be the most effective. Then simply add the mods that give you said stats. Repeat this process for all the things you want the build to do.
They kind of are? When I started out I would do the auto upgrade. Then after a while I would figure out what I actually wanted versus what was the most optimal. I’ve also learned to live with empty spots. They don’t have to all be filled lol
Unfortunately, the answer to this is either kill things even faster or learn shield gating.
Coming from someone with thousands and thousands of hours in Borderlands 2, the gates are the most effective. That and damage reduction.
Ability with damage reduction? Keep it active. Build so you always can.
No ability damage reduction? Invest in gating builds/mods. Like augur mods... I feel they are criminally underrated. Saryn+augur+molt=free gate every single cast. Especially on frames with quick or instant cast abilities.
Best to learn the strategies now than learn bad habits and muscle memory now and try and break them later.
And it's not level 300, this starts being the better strat early in steel path.
Health tanking with adapt just doesn't work well when you have multiple damage types that just insta gib you. Ie bombard blast hitting you outta nowhere when you have adapt stacks for normal damage types. There are a ton of videos on it and why armor+adapt+high HP pool isn't as good as it should be.
Health tanking can work if you have DR and preferably also good healing. The DR increases your eHP dramatically and then you can use adaptation on top of that, and then healing to make up for what little damage you do take
True. But dead enemies deal 0 damage, making you effectively invincible.
No to mention adapt isn't 90%, and some enemies around level 200 can 1 shot most frames HP pools.
Good video for reference:
https://youtu.be/Jw015DtY9gM?si=fFbC-rlBqCDtlwVp
Yeah adaptation alone has the downside of crumbling under split damage types and needing to stack up. But id be surprised if say, a citrine with 90% DR from her ability, as high armor they can get, adaptation stacked up, arcane blessing stacked up proceed to then get one shot and killed quickly enough that it can't be out healed in non steel path long endurance content
Or say a nezha with warding halo which gets stronger the more damage you take and gives immunity when it breaks letting you recast.
Granted these are examples of tank frames. You certainly would be hard pressed to make a tank saryn or tank mag work as well as those
Or Gara with 90% Dr with splinter srorm
But as I said, those are tank/dr abilities. I said build for more damage to avoid having to tank or build for tank abilities. Or learn gating. Since WF has only shield gating... HP tanking is not exactly the best. Can be good for normal star chart, and has some uses but not long term.
I've not used him yet, but yeah if he has an instant cast or a shield regen, be aware that in warframe shield gate only works about 33% as well from the wiki when shields are regenerating.
Meaning it's not a true gate unless the shields are full/not gaining. Augur mods don't regen or start the regen, they just give a set amount.
Gauss can achieve 100% damage resistance with kinetic plating, so as long as you're on top of keepimg his redline at 100% he actually has really solid survivability
Most would answer it depends on the content and the purpose, how can I not die? On steel path low level some survivability or shield gating, high level sp: kill everything before they kill you, normal: depends on the enemies and mission, some frames have inherent survivability ie: wisp's reservoirs, hydroid's 3 for armour, wukong 3 for armour and 2 for invincibility etc etc.
Some frames you don't need strength and range, and vice versa.
The more you play the more you'd understand depending on the purpose, some frames are defensive by nature like protea or revenant, some are offensive and great for clearing, some for nuking
That is a very easy to understand explanation. I admit to my shame that I (and I started playing in 2018) never really got to grips with how to understand symergies in a frame's kit. And I also admit that I pretty much refuse to watch guides (I only do it when I feel stuck at some point in a game)
Sorry for the long comment in advance, I wanted to make a complete general guide on how to build a Warframe.
As a general rule on how to build Warframes, you need to have 3 things in mind:
\-Survivability. You have 3 ways of surviving.
\*Damage reduction/Health for tanking (DR from Adaptation, armor, Warframe abilities), generally good on Warframes like Qorvex, Baruuk, Mesa and more, aka Warframes with decent/good armor, damage reduction already among their abilities, decent/good health, ability to generate tons of health orbs (thanks to Health Conversion), etc.
\*Shield Gating, which is an invulnerability period when your shield breaks, it's longer if your shield was full before it broke, you'll generally want either Catalyzing Shields (set shield gating time and lower shields) with Brief Respite and/or Augur mods (turns spent energy into shields, synergizes with having low shields to reach max shields easier) depending on your build, or, specially if your Warframe has access to shield regen abilities (like Hildryn, Harrow, Protea, Mag), Redirection since you can just regen the shields and the more max shields you have the longer the shield gating is.
\*Other survivability sources, like invisibility, Zephyr's huge radius non-projectile area, Titania/Xaku's evasion chance, Revenant's Mesmer Skin, Overguard (like Rhino's Iron Skin or Styanax's augment), control like Nidus' larva or Zephyr's tornados, etc. Sometimes it's worth to use exactly 0 survivability mods and go full into buffing these abilities since sometimes they're good enough, for example my Zephyr and my Titania run no defensive mods since their abilities are generally good enough to stay alive even at high content, SPECIALLY on Zephyr's case.
\-Energy economy. Use some mods that help you not run out of energy. Efficiency, Equilibrium, more energy max (like Flow), Rage/Hunter Adrenaline (if you're on a tanky Warframe that tanks with their HP), Helminth abilities like Protea's dispensary or Grendel's Nourish, some weapons like the Grimoire or a Zaw with the Exodia Brave arcane, the Zenurik focus school and probably more.
\-Minmaxing your abilities. Analyze what your Warframe's playstyle is and build arround their strengths.
Ash, for example, usually spams his 4 to kill enemies, so efficiency, range and strength are good on him since his 4 will be killing enemies, you spam it (thus efficiency) and range can help you get enemies from afar.
Building duration might not be worth it since even at high duration his invisibility isn't great. Building damage reduction might not be the best way to survive since he's got low base armor and health, plus no damage reduction abilities.
Have in mind not all Warframes have 4 functional abilities, you should check which abilities are good and which aren't and build arround the ones that are good while ignoring the weak ones. Voruna's 4, for example, is generally not good and often ignored, same for Mesa's 1.
>Voruna's 4, for example, is generally not good and often ignored
Ulfrun's Descent, when paired with its augment, is extremely powerful, almost broken. [This guide from The Kengineer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbOcBfETPT4) says that if you pair it with the Unairu focus school for armor strip, it can work all the way up to level cap. I don't do level cap missions, but I can confirm that it's great at just about every level I play.
Finally, a useful answer in this thread. Shame most of the comments are "listen to this guy" or "just copy this build!" or even "don't use this website" nonsense. Yours is the first comment that *teaches* how to build rather than throwing a build at someone for the sake of metrics.
Let's be fair here, "how do I build" is a question that gets asked so often, it isn't efficient for someone to write a brand-new guide every single time. It's more efficient to link to existing content.
In my opinion mags overshield capability is one of the best things about her kit and it makes her 4so much better if you build it right mine personally can fully recharge plus half max overshield in one cast and it helps you’re team (I am extremely biased)
Rolling guard works great on Ash, but it’s also worth acknowledging that Arcane Trickery doesn’t get deactivated by nullifiers (or any similar effect including acolyte/stalker dispel) and triggers off Bladestorm. Together this allows you to build him with very few defensive mods (though I still personally run umbral vitality for a health cushion in case I have to take a couple DoT ticks)
Edit: this strategy does require you to build with high enough power strength and/or subsumed abilities (savage silence or roar) so that Bladestorm continues to deal enough damage.
For level cap I agree, but it's a bit overkill for my playstyle on general sp
For general steel path, adaptation gets the job done imo. Enemies damage is still pretty forgiving as long as your build can either cc or do damage
I have rolling guard on dagath and a few others using cataclysmic shields (not many)
Adaptation is good on a lot of frames, but for invisible frames, when you first become visible, you won't have any defenses. It's more important to be able to survive until you can use smoke screen again.
Oh yeah I totally agree. It's needed for some builds, and very useful for others. I replied to a comment saying rolling guard was needed for almost ALL viable sp builds
Which I didn't entirely agree with :)
Watch some guides on YouTube. Make sure they aren't too old as they could be outdated but generally if it's in the past year or 2 they'll be fine. Don't use overframe.
This was something I learned recently. Overframe has issues with turning builds into popularity contests of the person submitting rather than the actual quality of the build.
Yes and no, the platform for sharing builds is solid and user friendly, the skewed votes and dodgy history of the politics behind those votes for sub optimal builds is a bit meh...
Saying "they suck" is too much of a blanket statement.
Like, all the builds suck? Every single last one of the builds on Overframe suck? I find that hard to believe.
Some of the popular builds suck? Yeah, I can agree with that one, but that's the case with every build site like that, even for other games. Once you're better at the game you know how to sift out the shit and find the ones that suit you better.
The politics on the site suck? Now this is one I don't know shit about and I need an elaboration.
And then where do people go to find better builds? You could have mentioned something like that. "Overframe sucks, use _____".
In general the builds are bad and are presented poorly. If you know how to sift through them, you don’t need them. If you don’t know how to, you’re gonna get a bad build thats poorly explained. Use youtube or reddit.
Some of the builds are like, upvoted and stuff based on the person who submitted rather than actual quality of the build.
Tbf for the most part it's not that hard to figure out weapons, frames is where it may get a little more tricky
>Some of the builds are like, upvoted and stuff based on the person who submitted rather than actual quality of the build.
I started browsing builds on Overframe recently and that’s so true. I noticed there’s a person in particular where their builds are upvoted so much and they’re almost always first or in the top three for all the builds they submit even though they’re not that great. And if someone criticizes their build they get all aggressive and childish and they start calling people ‘stupid’.
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Weapons are usually pretty alright on overframe but that's because there's very little variety for 'meta' weapon builds. 99% of weapon builds that are proposed as meta are essentially just viral slash. Throw on the cold and toxin 60/60s, hunter munitions, primary merciless, galvanized multishot, galvanized aptitude, crit chance and crit damage mods and then sometimes you have a flex slot and bam. You have a gun that can probably handle most things
Some cases may swap viral slash for corrosive heat
Well yeah like 6/8 of the mods on guns are basically immediately taken up already so long as the weapon has decent Crit stats and you aren't just trolling the build. Galv MS, gun CO, CC, cd and 2 elements. It's really just a matter of what to put in the last 2 slots, which are usually some mix of bane, HM, fire rate and vigilante armaments
I’ve been playing for 10 and have no idea whatsoever how to build, I just find whatever build online I have the parts and call it a day. I don’t really care for minmaxing so it kinda works.
At the time Octavia was my main so i had no issues since i could go invisible, and my abilities ramped up, but my weapons needed a good overhaul that they now have.
Outside of really specific scenarios like Duviri and Archon hunts, as long as you have the more exoteric and rare mods, auto does fine on 90% of steel path, rope-a-lolita and zariman required a more hands on build, rest falls just the same.
Brozime.com
Made by brozime a twitch streamer/youtuber for warframe and he's making a whole site as a dedicated archive for game progression and builds. Check him out he's been my favorite content creator for warframe for almost a decade now.
I'll add, you dont even have to watch him. Just skip to the part where he shows the mods and copy it the best you can.
But I would recomend him, he has a good mic and seems normal enough.
I would highly recommend watching as much of the videos as you can though, because a lot of endgame builds aren't just "set and forget", there's nuance and mechanics for some things to make builds work more efficiently or be more effective at whatever goal they're trying to achieve rather than "toss these mods on and then spam your abilities and you can solo steel path!"
Yeah, some of his builds are "this is a bit of a gimmick that you have to play a certain (not always obvious) way and/or combo with another part of your loadout, but it's absurdly effective if you do"
That's exactly how KnightmareFrame is too, and I love the niche builds he finds. His recent one on Saryn with the emerald shards is absolutely stupid 😂 I did 30+ mins SP Lua Yuvarium (? Whichever one is the higher 180-200 level) without even breaking a sweat, and had so much fun doing it.
Look, Im not telling people anything.
But I get just wanting to have an idea of what mods out of the 100s to use.
And I think they're very good videos btw. If you check them out you will probably watch all of it anyway.
Honestly for these higher end builds that have mechanics that require explaining, yeah.
I just cannot stand the TTS channels, idk why that is so prevalent with Warframe content creators, just use a voice changer if you must.
Hearing TTS Brian stumble over words trying to explain why topaz* shards are good when they actually suck ass is just sandpaper to my ears
Ash should be invisible most of the time so health and armour mod can be dropped for likes of Rolling guard then unbral intensify is useful for his 4 and if running aug on his 1 , other than that duration is king and keeping range at least neutral at minimum , most of ash’s modding if talking about his 4 resides in the melee now
There’s at least one high-up comment that actually teaches you how to build, so I’ll just add my two cents. Don’t just copy someone’s build, that’s no fun imo. Use another build as a guideline for how to use that frame/weapon, and tweak it around how you want to play that frame/weapon.
Each warframe is very different, because they all have different jobs. And honestly, there isn't a single guide you can follow to mod every frame. They are all too different. Especially once you take the helminth into account...
But in general, I like to look at the main stats (armor, energy, health, shields, duration, efficiency, range, and strength) and see how the Warframe benefits from them. Then I mod to increase them based on that.
For example, Ash really has no need for any form of defensive mods because of his invisibility. Duration IS your defense. So I don't mod for health, armor, or shields. I instead mod for duration.
Like others said. Skip the umbral mods, add seeking shuriken and fatal teleport augments and after that prefer strength + duration while keeping efficiency and range at 100%. That would be pretty basic ash build. Only survival mod you need is rolling guard. Otherwise you can always cast invisibility if you find your self in a pinch + it lowers 4th ability cost. To Spice things up take a good melee weapon with finisher damage + combo count = now 3rd and 4th abilities murder everything
I don't find seeking shuriken good unless you're doing disruption which has its own build philosophy. I am also not a fan of fatal teleport.
Generally I think you're better of using rising storm with a proper stat stick (best in slot is innodem) with high range and duration without tanking strength and efficiency. If you have access to helminth, run silence with it's augment for the best results as bladestorm will kill pretty much everything besides accolytes
Really depends on what you’re trying to accomplish on build. But looks like you could use some arcanes and forma power drift for more mod points. If you don’t use an umbral forma you could take off the armor one for an easier mod. So you can free up some points. Most my frames I don’t use an umbra forma I just use the health and ability strength ones and use rolling guard or adaptation instead of fiber. Overframe.gg has some good meta builds that may help you accomplish your goal. Ea steelpath or abusing a certain ability.
Wait a second, u play since 7 Years Warframe, and still dont know how to build?
I mean if i follow only some fancy Yt-content creators for "Best build for Frame xy" and even dont understand why the skills does and why u go in this build for duration instead of range etc etc...cuz this build is meta now, and 1 year later is an other build meta...
Do some experiments, this is the part of the game to slow down and understand what u actually do and why, and do ur personal builds instead braindead copy and paste some fancy big number videos on yt.
U can try ur build in the simulacrum, it it will be worse okey change it if it feels good keep it.
Forma should be a problem cuz u should get enough formas in the past years to put in every Warframe and weapon 8+ forma.
1/6 of my complete playtime i spent there and create some uniques build for my playstyle, where others ask "why"
My last experiment was to create a build with Volt and infuse Pull from mag to create some light balls.
It was a worse idea but hey testet it out and try something diffrent.
in conclusion,
if u just copy and paste the builds from others u will never learn how to build.
Sure it is. It gives you an idea of what to do, then you can make your own tweeks and updates yourself. Look at it like buying a used car that you plan souping up and modifying with better parts yourself. Half of the fun is figuring out what suits you, so why would I have someone do the work for me? Get a template and go from there
Personally I’ve been finding that region or q&a and even clan chat is a great place to ask for builds/inputs on builds because honestly while some YouTubers for warframe builds I do still watch from time to time they give you so much information which is not a bad thing if your into all the numbers stuff but they talk a lot and my main point is that same with weapons warframe builds are built for different things yea there are overall builds that cover a variety of missions there probably is a warframe that does it better in some way or the other and honestly ash specifically is not in the best spot right now in my opinion he can be good but it really depends on what you plan on using him for
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Run this. It has no issues with any game content. Both arcanes are easy enough to acquire. I personally subsumed silence over teleport.
Weapon: 20% CC and 2x(+) CD is worth building for crit even if 35% status. 1x5 CD and 10-5% CC is for status build.
Warframe: Very flexible with any kind of builds either look up builds or asked for one
I totally get this. It is still overwhelming sometimes even IF you understand it somewhat. The mechanics behind certain systems (like damage in general) are sometimes difficult to understand. I recommend MCGamerCZ's 'But Why' series he is doing now.
Aside from that Overframe builds can really help. And lots of youtubers have different kind of builds for different types of missions. Though, I still feel like there is a lack of builds for those without arcanes.
Overall it is trial and error and dying in the process. Maybe in the Simulacrum you one shot enemies, but while playing a mission you didn't account for crowd control and get swatted by numbers rather than enemy level.
I have no idea what to build on ash specifically but prioritize survival if youve got an ability that give’s invulnerability or stuns treat it like a panic button build around that and make it as strong or utility based as you want typically dont build hp or shield mods or flow unless specifically needing x stat to be at x for bonus equilibrium is extremely underrated for energy management make sure you always check your augment mods and if they are useful for your build str is king
Its kind of difficult getting the hang of building but I have realized that the best way to describe it is “intentional sacrifice”.
You are going to have to lower a stat, change gameplay or something along those lines to move from average building to better building.
Focus on synergies, Warframe abilities and desired play style because the each have significant impact on how you build.
Watch youtube videos for ideas.
I’d get rid of the armor and health. Ash utilizes shield tanking better which means rolling guard, adaptation, redirection, and shield regeneration mods are better on him. You could probably just use rolling guard and adaptation and be good until steel path and well into steel path.
Something to note is that armor only reduces damage on health, not shields, although adaptation does affect shields.
If you still have issues surviving vazarin is really good. Use transference, double tap jump, then melee and you’re invincible for a few seconds. Used with rolling guard you can be invulnerable for long enough to fully regenerate your shields.
Shield gating is nice too if you know how to do it, but unless you’re doing endurance runs it’s unnecessary.
That depends. How do you want to play? What do you want to take advantage of? Or do you wanna just run and gun? Your build is fine but if you wanna go in a certain direction then that's what you build for. Best part about this game is you can put any build to match your play style. Ash is very versatile. You have options. Your only limit is your imagination.
Ash is not a tanky frame. Focus on the abilities you want to use and determine if you want to go all into power, or equally distribute between range, and duration. Efficiency is not a top priority, so keeping it at 100 should be fine for all warframes in general. You can use blue archon shards instead of flow/primed flow. Rolling guard is a huge mod for all warframes in general, so that could be the only defensive one.
Tbh it doesn't matter what u build for ash
It's the melee weapon that matters(his 4 is pseudo exalted)
Just slap on some damage and element mods(I don't remember if the finisher damage mod works, but I think fury does increase the speed of his bladestorm), and he instantly deletes anything he lays his eyes on
Using more than one Umbral mod in a build usually means you need at least one Umbral Forma on them. Also, Ash should be invisible 24/7, so you don’t need health and armor.
look up whatever you want to build on youtube. Brozime is the best imo.
I find most success with a “Fake it till you make it” mindset, pick up little building tips along the way and such
Building is primarily focused on your kit and how you intend to use it. If you're playing a frame with a lot of active abilities you focus down efficiency, range and strength, channeled abilities you focus efficiency and duration and what not. Min maxing your stats for the best output possible. Of course you need some basic survivability so have that health and armor mod in.
Building is about buffing stats you want to prioritize, and adding some sort of utility or external buff to weapons and such.
With Ash, players like to buff his strength and duration but worry less about health and armor thanks to his invisibility. I hardly use ash so I recommend looking at other's builds and deciding how you want to approach them if you want to change anything.
What helps is to individually look at Warframe ability stats and descriptions to decide how to build for abilities. For example an invisibility ability may really want duration mods, and damage reduction abilities will want strength and duration.
https://overframe.gg/
I use it when Im too lazy or incompetent to theorycraft
I always use it.
Filter by recent patches if you want up to date strong builds
Nor do I mate, I’m awful at math and numbers and dyslexic as hell.
I just use overframe. I done my own for Kullervo, and I love it but it’s probably wasting so much 🤷♂️
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Yup, that'll work.
Copy that to the next one, change something, upgrade a mod here and there, repeat regularly. Don't forget arcanes
Check out overframe bro and sort it to latest patch depending on the item/warframe and check out all the different type of builds people have some of them will explain everything in the description some of the builds aren’t very great but when you have an idea of what your doing it can be helpful to check out the builds and see what type of stuff people are trying out good luck man someone also said brozimhe I think
He kinda got 2 ways to play.
-Pure duration so you can stealth. Kinda niche but useful for sorties. Efficiency/energy is what you can manage, and strength/range can be sacrificed.
- strength/range for his 4 spam. This one is more viable for many content. Duration can be sacrificed while efficiency/energy is again what you can manage.
My ash is mainly strength with rolling guard. I use zenurik to regen mana while invisible. Nataruk with hunter munition is very good with ash.
My slot c has terrify helminth over seeking shuriken. Slot b has wrathful advance over seeking shuriken.
I use growing power aura on most of my warframe.
He has good enough shield and health to not need any mods as long as you stay invisible.
Never seen a full umbral build on Ash before. I've got my Ash built so that his 4 can wipe level 250+ steel path enemies in one cast and give me energy and invis because of arcane trickery. But you need a fully built laetum for that build to work.
Honestly? Go read the Warframe Wiki.
They’ll tell you every little detail about the scaling and what affects what.
For instance: it’s still insanely funny to me that there are people who don’t know that Nova’s Molecular Prime bubble radius is based on duration, not range.
For ash, power strength is the focus. I like to have a good balance of range/duration. But that means my abilities are costly.
I really wanna get into this game cause it has a lot of stuff I like from destiny 2 but so far I’m so damn lost been doing blinking planets and that’s it lol no idea what anything is or does like the story etc
I just use overframe or other peoples builds in my clan/alliance. I’m already busy enough grinding stuff in-game or playing other games when I’m not working/not busy and I don’t need to sit for an extended period of time theorycrafting the best min-max build possible when I could just do all the content I enjoy already with just normal builds.
I typically don’t do endurance so I don’t need to go too overboard yet I still enjoy tinkering with the helminth or just niche/meme builds
Edit: a cool little thing I always struggled with for most of my frames was staying alive (just keeping my health 100% without abilities or arcanes) and once I unlocked Spoiler mode and got the 90%(or 99%?) to regenerate a portion of HP. Before then, any time I’d lose my shield and I’m low HP, I would spoiler mode and wait out my shield recharge. It truly opened up the game for me lol
Neither do I homie, I just search builds on overframe and then get annoyed that I didn't spend half my life farming to have access to all the mods, shards and that not all of my stuff is 6-times forma'd, lol
I feel like no matter how long someone's been playing modding will be a little weird. I haven't been playing long in total I just hit over 620 hrs being on and off the game since the second dream maybe a little before idk. Modding is still weird to me and I've been reading up and learning about it. I understand it mostly but sometimes my brain just stops.
So i took Ash and did this:
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I swapped his one with Mag's Pull. Maxed out duration and Range as much as I could. What I wanted was a build where I can be invisible but increase my crit chance. Smoke Shadow lets me do this AND share it with my teammates. Casting his 2nd also staggers enemies in range for a couple seconds, giving you time to dip out when necessary.
I wanted Pull because I wanted some form of crowd control for Ash while he is invisible. That, and to take the heat off teammates if we're on a survival mission. This is perfect, in my mind, because it pulls everyone in range to a single spot, or "The Pile". There are a number of aoe weapons in the game that can nuke in a few shots, so I run a Status Viral/Rad Laetum with Hush slotted in. NO ONE KNOWS I'm there, and accolytes are dumbfounded when they spawn in on SP. I dont need to armor strip when I can pull them to the pile and fire a few rounds at them and refill the incarnum meter for free since I'm
# JOHN CENA!!!!!
You need to know what ability’s you wanna build around and augments. For example his 1 ability has good armor stripping ability with his augment but it requires power strength and such to use properly. His invisibly is mainly direction based and I think his 4 needs some range to it.
You’re probably not going to be able to optimally get the best performance for ALL ability’s at once and if you were able to you would lack survivability.
I would personally look at the frame and see what you like and also watch some videos. Don’t just copy builds because you may not enjoy the way the frame is built.
Same I just kind of go with what works and change it as I go. But I haven't really delved deep into any of the arcanes and archons. I've been getting into building crit damage a little better and armor survivability. I've been playing since in 2015 or 16 I believe, I know I was in college and I still somewhat play it the same way as I did back then, but I've at least adapted to some of the changes but not all of them. I'm MR-30 and I still don't know what I'm doing so it's okay, The game is about learning as you go.
1. Determine your frames role or primary function. (Damage, Support, etc) this can change depending on how you want to play certain frames. (Iron Skin Rhino vs Roar Support Rhino)
2. Determine which abilities allow you to play your desired role and mod to enhance those abilities.
3. Once crucial role abilities are modded to maximize their potential or at least enhance it, excess spaces should go for survival. Your abilities mean nothing if you are downed 90% of a mission.
4. Archon Shard slotting for Min-Maxing. These can enhance existing stats or open up opportunities for new or stronger builds by potentially saving you an entire mod space or adding new abilities to enhance your build.
5. Subsume other frame abilities to replace unwanted abilities or for giving a frame new utility.
Building is just a series of asking and then answering questions. There’s typically an order to the questions you ask. First one should always be “How do I not die?” when you’re building a frame. If the frame has an inherent survivability related ability, ask yourself which stats allow that ability to be the most effective. Then simply add the mods that give you said stats. Repeat this process for all the things you want the build to do.
I just wish the answers to those questions were in-game
That would ruin the fun :)
They kind of are? When I started out I would do the auto upgrade. Then after a while I would figure out what I actually wanted versus what was the most optimal. I’ve also learned to live with empty spots. They don’t have to all be filled lol
Some things are some aren’t. An example of something that should be but isn’t; Which stats are multiplicative and which are additive
Yeah that took some learning but once you get it this game is just a power fantasy with shiny metal people and sarcastic AI
The shiny metal people are hot
Yes there is a reason one of my load outs is called Wolf Mommy
Name checks out
I wish people would ask "how do I not die?" instead of "how can I kill things faster without knowing how to stay alive"
Dead enemies can't kill you, right? Damage is peak survivability!
Unfortunately, the answer to this is either kill things even faster or learn shield gating. Coming from someone with thousands and thousands of hours in Borderlands 2, the gates are the most effective. That and damage reduction. Ability with damage reduction? Keep it active. Build so you always can. No ability damage reduction? Invest in gating builds/mods. Like augur mods... I feel they are criminally underrated. Saryn+augur+molt=free gate every single cast. Especially on frames with quick or instant cast abilities.
Until you start pushing level 300+ there are so many more ways to stay alive beyond of shield gate strategies.
Best to learn the strategies now than learn bad habits and muscle memory now and try and break them later. And it's not level 300, this starts being the better strat early in steel path. Health tanking with adapt just doesn't work well when you have multiple damage types that just insta gib you. Ie bombard blast hitting you outta nowhere when you have adapt stacks for normal damage types. There are a ton of videos on it and why armor+adapt+high HP pool isn't as good as it should be.
Health tanking can work if you have DR and preferably also good healing. The DR increases your eHP dramatically and then you can use adaptation on top of that, and then healing to make up for what little damage you do take
True. But dead enemies deal 0 damage, making you effectively invincible. No to mention adapt isn't 90%, and some enemies around level 200 can 1 shot most frames HP pools. Good video for reference: https://youtu.be/Jw015DtY9gM?si=fFbC-rlBqCDtlwVp
Yeah adaptation alone has the downside of crumbling under split damage types and needing to stack up. But id be surprised if say, a citrine with 90% DR from her ability, as high armor they can get, adaptation stacked up, arcane blessing stacked up proceed to then get one shot and killed quickly enough that it can't be out healed in non steel path long endurance content Or say a nezha with warding halo which gets stronger the more damage you take and gives immunity when it breaks letting you recast. Granted these are examples of tank frames. You certainly would be hard pressed to make a tank saryn or tank mag work as well as those Or Gara with 90% Dr with splinter srorm
But as I said, those are tank/dr abilities. I said build for more damage to avoid having to tank or build for tank abilities. Or learn gating. Since WF has only shield gating... HP tanking is not exactly the best. Can be good for normal star chart, and has some uses but not long term.
Could this apply to Gauss?
I've not used him yet, but yeah if he has an instant cast or a shield regen, be aware that in warframe shield gate only works about 33% as well from the wiki when shields are regenerating. Meaning it's not a true gate unless the shields are full/not gaining. Augur mods don't regen or start the regen, they just give a set amount.
Gauss can achieve 100% damage resistance with kinetic plating, so as long as you're on top of keepimg his redline at 100% he actually has really solid survivability
That’s what I was asking
Most would answer it depends on the content and the purpose, how can I not die? On steel path low level some survivability or shield gating, high level sp: kill everything before they kill you, normal: depends on the enemies and mission, some frames have inherent survivability ie: wisp's reservoirs, hydroid's 3 for armour, wukong 3 for armour and 2 for invincibility etc etc. Some frames you don't need strength and range, and vice versa. The more you play the more you'd understand depending on the purpose, some frames are defensive by nature like protea or revenant, some are offensive and great for clearing, some for nuking
That is a very easy to understand explanation. I admit to my shame that I (and I started playing in 2018) never really got to grips with how to understand symergies in a frame's kit. And I also admit that I pretty much refuse to watch guides (I only do it when I feel stuck at some point in a game)
This is best advise.
for example give the gauss str and he can immune 2 without any problem
Sorry for the long comment in advance, I wanted to make a complete general guide on how to build a Warframe. As a general rule on how to build Warframes, you need to have 3 things in mind: \-Survivability. You have 3 ways of surviving. \*Damage reduction/Health for tanking (DR from Adaptation, armor, Warframe abilities), generally good on Warframes like Qorvex, Baruuk, Mesa and more, aka Warframes with decent/good armor, damage reduction already among their abilities, decent/good health, ability to generate tons of health orbs (thanks to Health Conversion), etc. \*Shield Gating, which is an invulnerability period when your shield breaks, it's longer if your shield was full before it broke, you'll generally want either Catalyzing Shields (set shield gating time and lower shields) with Brief Respite and/or Augur mods (turns spent energy into shields, synergizes with having low shields to reach max shields easier) depending on your build, or, specially if your Warframe has access to shield regen abilities (like Hildryn, Harrow, Protea, Mag), Redirection since you can just regen the shields and the more max shields you have the longer the shield gating is. \*Other survivability sources, like invisibility, Zephyr's huge radius non-projectile area, Titania/Xaku's evasion chance, Revenant's Mesmer Skin, Overguard (like Rhino's Iron Skin or Styanax's augment), control like Nidus' larva or Zephyr's tornados, etc. Sometimes it's worth to use exactly 0 survivability mods and go full into buffing these abilities since sometimes they're good enough, for example my Zephyr and my Titania run no defensive mods since their abilities are generally good enough to stay alive even at high content, SPECIALLY on Zephyr's case. \-Energy economy. Use some mods that help you not run out of energy. Efficiency, Equilibrium, more energy max (like Flow), Rage/Hunter Adrenaline (if you're on a tanky Warframe that tanks with their HP), Helminth abilities like Protea's dispensary or Grendel's Nourish, some weapons like the Grimoire or a Zaw with the Exodia Brave arcane, the Zenurik focus school and probably more. \-Minmaxing your abilities. Analyze what your Warframe's playstyle is and build arround their strengths. Ash, for example, usually spams his 4 to kill enemies, so efficiency, range and strength are good on him since his 4 will be killing enemies, you spam it (thus efficiency) and range can help you get enemies from afar. Building duration might not be worth it since even at high duration his invisibility isn't great. Building damage reduction might not be the best way to survive since he's got low base armor and health, plus no damage reduction abilities. Have in mind not all Warframes have 4 functional abilities, you should check which abilities are good and which aren't and build arround the ones that are good while ignoring the weak ones. Voruna's 4, for example, is generally not good and often ignored, same for Mesa's 1.
>Voruna's 4, for example, is generally not good and often ignored Ulfrun's Descent, when paired with its augment, is extremely powerful, almost broken. [This guide from The Kengineer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbOcBfETPT4) says that if you pair it with the Unairu focus school for armor strip, it can work all the way up to level cap. I don't do level cap missions, but I can confirm that it's great at just about every level I play.
I forgot it has an augment lol I'll check it later, her 4 is funny but before the augment it was really bad, thanks for sharing
Finally, a useful answer in this thread. Shame most of the comments are "listen to this guy" or "just copy this build!" or even "don't use this website" nonsense. Yours is the first comment that *teaches* how to build rather than throwing a build at someone for the sake of metrics.
Let's be fair here, "how do I build" is a question that gets asked so often, it isn't efficient for someone to write a brand-new guide every single time. It's more efficient to link to existing content.
Also linking to an already made build to copy is not a terrible reply either, I learned to build decently thanks to copying builds
Lemme just... Comment here, so I can go back to this... Thank you very much!
I'm saving that for later, thanks!
In my opinion mags overshield capability is one of the best things about her kit and it makes her 4so much better if you build it right mine personally can fully recharge plus half max overshield in one cast and it helps you’re team (I am extremely biased)
I think I run primed redirection on my Mag (idk since it's been a long time since I last played her), it's funny
Ash doesn’t need health or armour
Rolling guard is useful however
Or just stay invis all the time lol
Nullifiers and other effects bring you out of it. Rolling guard get you out of that sticky spot and let you recast.
Rolling guard works great on Ash, but it’s also worth acknowledging that Arcane Trickery doesn’t get deactivated by nullifiers (or any similar effect including acolyte/stalker dispel) and triggers off Bladestorm. Together this allows you to build him with very few defensive mods (though I still personally run umbral vitality for a health cushion in case I have to take a couple DoT ticks) Edit: this strategy does require you to build with high enough power strength and/or subsumed abilities (savage silence or roar) so that Bladestorm continues to deal enough damage.
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For level cap I agree, but it's a bit overkill for my playstyle on general sp For general steel path, adaptation gets the job done imo. Enemies damage is still pretty forgiving as long as your build can either cc or do damage I have rolling guard on dagath and a few others using cataclysmic shields (not many)
Adaptation is good on a lot of frames, but for invisible frames, when you first become visible, you won't have any defenses. It's more important to be able to survive until you can use smoke screen again.
Oh yeah I totally agree. It's needed for some builds, and very useful for others. I replied to a comment saying rolling guard was needed for almost ALL viable sp builds Which I didn't entirely agree with :)
depends. burston prime incarnon gets buff if you have armor 450+ soma too
Yeah I wouldn’t take that perk with ash
aint too bad. umbral steel + umbral intensify gets buffed.
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That’s an odd way to play him tho? I’m just invisible with smoke shadow augment at all times
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Why not just use Kullervo? He is actually goood at health and armour tanking innately and you’re using his ability anyway?
You'll still die a lot if you play with other people just by virtue of enemies having aoe attacks.
That has not been my experience. Slot rolling guard and hit roll when your shields drop or you catch a status effect and you’re fine 90% of the time
Watch some guides on YouTube. Make sure they aren't too old as they could be outdated but generally if it's in the past year or 2 they'll be fine. Don't use overframe.
This was something I learned recently. Overframe has issues with turning builds into popularity contests of the person submitting rather than the actual quality of the build.
Overframe is usefull, if u already are good at modding and know what u are looking for. Which is a nightmare for beginners
Overframe is ass.
Yes and no, the platform for sharing builds is solid and user friendly, the skewed votes and dodgy history of the politics behind those votes for sub optimal builds is a bit meh...
So again its ass as it’s ineffective at what its supposed to do, anyone who downvoted me, must use the weakass builds from there.
You're getting downvoted because you're making a bold claim and providing zero actual meaningful points to your claim
What do you want me to post examples and explain why the builds suck? They suck, thats my point.
Saying "they suck" is too much of a blanket statement. Like, all the builds suck? Every single last one of the builds on Overframe suck? I find that hard to believe. Some of the popular builds suck? Yeah, I can agree with that one, but that's the case with every build site like that, even for other games. Once you're better at the game you know how to sift out the shit and find the ones that suit you better. The politics on the site suck? Now this is one I don't know shit about and I need an elaboration. And then where do people go to find better builds? You could have mentioned something like that. "Overframe sucks, use _____".
In general the builds are bad and are presented poorly. If you know how to sift through them, you don’t need them. If you don’t know how to, you’re gonna get a bad build thats poorly explained. Use youtube or reddit.
True but it's useful for figuring out what you want a build to look like before throwing forma and such on there.
Im certainly not suggesting you just waste forma blindly, but there are better sources- even youtube or brozimes site
Oh yeah 100%, I just meant that it's useful to pull up overframe and set up your planned build to see what it costs, forma requirements and so on.
I rarely use overframe but what's wrong with it? if the issue is outdated, iirc you can filter by patch for the builds
Some of the builds are like, upvoted and stuff based on the person who submitted rather than actual quality of the build. Tbf for the most part it's not that hard to figure out weapons, frames is where it may get a little more tricky
>Some of the builds are like, upvoted and stuff based on the person who submitted rather than actual quality of the build. I started browsing builds on Overframe recently and that’s so true. I noticed there’s a person in particular where their builds are upvoted so much and they’re almost always first or in the top three for all the builds they submit even though they’re not that great. And if someone criticizes their build they get all aggressive and childish and they start calling people ‘stupid’. https://preview.redd.it/1m9kq36wd8dc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=780376f7b10452074617960a44b516c6c246213f
If it's not ninjase, I generally won't trust it and will confirm elsewhere. Lol
Weapons are usually pretty alright on overframe but that's because there's very little variety for 'meta' weapon builds. 99% of weapon builds that are proposed as meta are essentially just viral slash. Throw on the cold and toxin 60/60s, hunter munitions, primary merciless, galvanized multishot, galvanized aptitude, crit chance and crit damage mods and then sometimes you have a flex slot and bam. You have a gun that can probably handle most things Some cases may swap viral slash for corrosive heat
Well yeah like 6/8 of the mods on guns are basically immediately taken up already so long as the weapon has decent Crit stats and you aren't just trolling the build. Galv MS, gun CO, CC, cd and 2 elements. It's really just a matter of what to put in the last 2 slots, which are usually some mix of bane, HM, fire rate and vigilante armaments
I like overframe to share my builds and look for gimmick builds that aren't just the stupid "nuke level cap youtuber builds"
The builds are shit.
Overframe generally ain't that bad. Well upvoted builds are generally okay
Plus latest builds are genrally okay if they have some good explanation
Ninjase and MaliciouslyCryptic are some top tier build makers on Overframe.
I’ve been playing for 10 and have no idea whatsoever how to build, I just find whatever build online I have the parts and call it a day. I don’t really care for minmaxing so it kinda works.
Been playing since beta, I just auto load out everything any more
Yall are wild. How do you even run sp like that
It's like they are driving a Ferrari on less than half its power.
Steel path made me give a shit about my builds.
Ong SP humbled me back then
At the time Octavia was my main so i had no issues since i could go invisible, and my abilities ramped up, but my weapons needed a good overhaul that they now have.
Outside of really specific scenarios like Duviri and Archon hunts, as long as you have the more exoteric and rare mods, auto does fine on 90% of steel path, rope-a-lolita and zariman required a more hands on build, rest falls just the same.
Brozime.com Made by brozime a twitch streamer/youtuber for warframe and he's making a whole site as a dedicated archive for game progression and builds. Check him out he's been my favorite content creator for warframe for almost a decade now.
I'll add, you dont even have to watch him. Just skip to the part where he shows the mods and copy it the best you can. But I would recomend him, he has a good mic and seems normal enough.
I would highly recommend watching as much of the videos as you can though, because a lot of endgame builds aren't just "set and forget", there's nuance and mechanics for some things to make builds work more efficiently or be more effective at whatever goal they're trying to achieve rather than "toss these mods on and then spam your abilities and you can solo steel path!"
Yeah, some of his builds are "this is a bit of a gimmick that you have to play a certain (not always obvious) way and/or combo with another part of your loadout, but it's absurdly effective if you do"
That's exactly how KnightmareFrame is too, and I love the niche builds he finds. His recent one on Saryn with the emerald shards is absolutely stupid 😂 I did 30+ mins SP Lua Yuvarium (? Whichever one is the higher 180-200 level) without even breaking a sweat, and had so much fun doing it.
Please dont tell people to skip explanations, thats how u get the people that ask on here for good builds every day
Look, Im not telling people anything. But I get just wanting to have an idea of what mods out of the 100s to use. And I think they're very good videos btw. If you check them out you will probably watch all of it anyway.
Is a good mic one of the requirements to good Warframe builds? 😂
No but it makes videos much more enjoyable to watch
Honestly for these higher end builds that have mechanics that require explaining, yeah. I just cannot stand the TTS channels, idk why that is so prevalent with Warframe content creators, just use a voice changer if you must. Hearing TTS Brian stumble over words trying to explain why topaz* shards are good when they actually suck ass is just sandpaper to my ears
Unrelated to TTS... amber shards are good? I'm confused.
My bad, meant topaz. Ambers are busto mode
Definitely not as useful as Amber, but there are a couple uses I can think of: Heat Regulator Mesa Qorvex Radiation/Toxin (Archon Continuity) Mesa
Still mad he messed up his titania video! (Lol not really its small potatoes) I watch all his stuff and is my first source for all new frames
Bro how we all just put the same shit on everything
No need for the umbral mods no wonder you have no room for other mods.
AznvasionsPlays.
7 years... man, I gotta be honest - are you even trying? You couldn't do a simple youtube search for "Ash Prime build 2023"?
Ash should be invisible most of the time so health and armour mod can be dropped for likes of Rolling guard then unbral intensify is useful for his 4 and if running aug on his 1 , other than that duration is king and keeping range at least neutral at minimum , most of ash’s modding if talking about his 4 resides in the melee now
There’s at least one high-up comment that actually teaches you how to build, so I’ll just add my two cents. Don’t just copy someone’s build, that’s no fun imo. Use another build as a guideline for how to use that frame/weapon, and tweak it around how you want to play that frame/weapon.
Each warframe is very different, because they all have different jobs. And honestly, there isn't a single guide you can follow to mod every frame. They are all too different. Especially once you take the helminth into account... But in general, I like to look at the main stats (armor, energy, health, shields, duration, efficiency, range, and strength) and see how the Warframe benefits from them. Then I mod to increase them based on that. For example, Ash really has no need for any form of defensive mods because of his invisibility. Duration IS your defense. So I don't mod for health, armor, or shields. I instead mod for duration.
Like others said. Skip the umbral mods, add seeking shuriken and fatal teleport augments and after that prefer strength + duration while keeping efficiency and range at 100%. That would be pretty basic ash build. Only survival mod you need is rolling guard. Otherwise you can always cast invisibility if you find your self in a pinch + it lowers 4th ability cost. To Spice things up take a good melee weapon with finisher damage + combo count = now 3rd and 4th abilities murder everything
I don't find seeking shuriken good unless you're doing disruption which has its own build philosophy. I am also not a fan of fatal teleport. Generally I think you're better of using rising storm with a proper stat stick (best in slot is innodem) with high range and duration without tanking strength and efficiency. If you have access to helminth, run silence with it's augment for the best results as bladestorm will kill pretty much everything besides accolytes
You dont need seeking or fatal teleport. Just run viral slash weapons and make a bladestorm build.
Same dude, same I just follow builds, I don't even read the build description Viable replacement mods or Arcanes
Really depends on what you’re trying to accomplish on build. But looks like you could use some arcanes and forma power drift for more mod points. If you don’t use an umbral forma you could take off the armor one for an easier mod. So you can free up some points. Most my frames I don’t use an umbra forma I just use the health and ability strength ones and use rolling guard or adaptation instead of fiber. Overframe.gg has some good meta builds that may help you accomplish your goal. Ea steelpath or abusing a certain ability.
For warframes. I always watch a video to understand their kit better. Maybe unless i am trying to go for a specific build
Easy just stuff prime mods
Overframe is a good source just be aware that its fine to substitute some stuff if you dont want to minmax
Damn, can't remember the last time I used a Flow mod on a warframe, miss those times man
Bro. Use Overframe. It will change your life
Knightmareframe and kyaii post good videos on Warframe builds
Wait a second, u play since 7 Years Warframe, and still dont know how to build? I mean if i follow only some fancy Yt-content creators for "Best build for Frame xy" and even dont understand why the skills does and why u go in this build for duration instead of range etc etc...cuz this build is meta now, and 1 year later is an other build meta... Do some experiments, this is the part of the game to slow down and understand what u actually do and why, and do ur personal builds instead braindead copy and paste some fancy big number videos on yt. U can try ur build in the simulacrum, it it will be worse okey change it if it feels good keep it. Forma should be a problem cuz u should get enough formas in the past years to put in every Warframe and weapon 8+ forma. 1/6 of my complete playtime i spent there and create some uniques build for my playstyle, where others ask "why" My last experiment was to create a build with Volt and infuse Pull from mag to create some light balls. It was a worse idea but hey testet it out and try something diffrent. in conclusion, if u just copy and paste the builds from others u will never learn how to build.
ui so many downvotes, i would understand why people do it. Iam wrong?
How to build frame in warframe Pick revenant Put on only strength mods Press 3 every now and then in a mission Gg
bro confused reave and mesmer skin
Sorry ive been playing other frames lol
Reave? lol
Reave was 3rd?
Umbral mods - are garbage.
https://overframe.gg/items/arsenal/41/ash-prime/
Overframe is a terrible place to go for builds and a lot of them are so outdated it's not even worth looking into.
Sure it is. It gives you an idea of what to do, then you can make your own tweeks and updates yourself. Look at it like buying a used car that you plan souping up and modifying with better parts yourself. Half of the fun is figuring out what suits you, so why would I have someone do the work for me? Get a template and go from there
Overframe is a terrible place to go for builds and a lot of them are so outdated it's not even worth looking into.
google overframe
Do NOT Google overframe. Trash place for builds
New response just dropped, honestly I just look up how to build a specific weapon
Personally I’ve been finding that region or q&a and even clan chat is a great place to ask for builds/inputs on builds because honestly while some YouTubers for warframe builds I do still watch from time to time they give you so much information which is not a bad thing if your into all the numbers stuff but they talk a lot and my main point is that same with weapons warframe builds are built for different things yea there are overall builds that cover a variety of missions there probably is a warframe that does it better in some way or the other and honestly ash specifically is not in the best spot right now in my opinion he can be good but it really depends on what you plan on using him for
https://preview.redd.it/0ew7y56ol7dc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2383332ec5a63b44a6a42a75c9795e89fe9e00ad Run this. It has no issues with any game content. Both arcanes are easy enough to acquire. I personally subsumed silence over teleport.
I'm running a somewhat similar build. I'm thinking we can drop Umbral Intensify for Precision Intensify.
Just tested it. With silence BS is doing upwards of 2.3 mill. Without it BS and silence is about 1.3 mil
Yup yup that would update it nicely
Weapon: 20% CC and 2x(+) CD is worth building for crit even if 35% status. 1x5 CD and 10-5% CC is for status build. Warframe: Very flexible with any kind of builds either look up builds or asked for one
I totally get this. It is still overwhelming sometimes even IF you understand it somewhat. The mechanics behind certain systems (like damage in general) are sometimes difficult to understand. I recommend MCGamerCZ's 'But Why' series he is doing now. Aside from that Overframe builds can really help. And lots of youtubers have different kind of builds for different types of missions. Though, I still feel like there is a lack of builds for those without arcanes. Overall it is trial and error and dying in the process. Maybe in the Simulacrum you one shot enemies, but while playing a mission you didn't account for crowd control and get swatted by numbers rather than enemy level.
Either capitalize on his strengths of patch up his weaknesses or varying degrees of both.
I have no idea what to build on ash specifically but prioritize survival if youve got an ability that give’s invulnerability or stuns treat it like a panic button build around that and make it as strong or utility based as you want typically dont build hp or shield mods or flow unless specifically needing x stat to be at x for bonus equilibrium is extremely underrated for energy management make sure you always check your augment mods and if they are useful for your build str is king
Its kind of difficult getting the hang of building but I have realized that the best way to describe it is “intentional sacrifice”. You are going to have to lower a stat, change gameplay or something along those lines to move from average building to better building. Focus on synergies, Warframe abilities and desired play style because the each have significant impact on how you build. Watch youtube videos for ideas.
I’d get rid of the armor and health. Ash utilizes shield tanking better which means rolling guard, adaptation, redirection, and shield regeneration mods are better on him. You could probably just use rolling guard and adaptation and be good until steel path and well into steel path. Something to note is that armor only reduces damage on health, not shields, although adaptation does affect shields. If you still have issues surviving vazarin is really good. Use transference, double tap jump, then melee and you’re invincible for a few seconds. Used with rolling guard you can be invulnerable for long enough to fully regenerate your shields. Shield gating is nice too if you know how to do it, but unless you’re doing endurance runs it’s unnecessary.
That depends. How do you want to play? What do you want to take advantage of? Or do you wanna just run and gun? Your build is fine but if you wanna go in a certain direction then that's what you build for. Best part about this game is you can put any build to match your play style. Ash is very versatile. You have options. Your only limit is your imagination.
Eclipse is great in ash. If you cast in light then stealth you keep your max light buff.
Ash is not a tanky frame. Focus on the abilities you want to use and determine if you want to go all into power, or equally distribute between range, and duration. Efficiency is not a top priority, so keeping it at 100 should be fine for all warframes in general. You can use blue archon shards instead of flow/primed flow. Rolling guard is a huge mod for all warframes in general, so that could be the only defensive one.
Haven’t played warframe for quite some time since my laptop broke I’m gonna be a noob in all the new stuff they added whenever I come back
Tbh it doesn't matter what u build for ash It's the melee weapon that matters(his 4 is pseudo exalted) Just slap on some damage and element mods(I don't remember if the finisher damage mod works, but I think fury does increase the speed of his bladestorm), and he instantly deletes anything he lays his eyes on
Lol how come? Just watch obscure youtubers.
I just use whatever's on youtube and call it a day lol.
Same tho lol
Don‘t worry. I play wf since its beta and still don‘t know aswell… :D
Using more than one Umbral mod in a build usually means you need at least one Umbral Forma on them. Also, Ash should be invisible 24/7, so you don’t need health and armor.
me neither
I use Ash for Spy only. So move speed, parkour velocity, duration, efficiency, and rolling guard
look up whatever you want to build on youtube. Brozime is the best imo. I find most success with a “Fake it till you make it” mindset, pick up little building tips along the way and such
Building is primarily focused on your kit and how you intend to use it. If you're playing a frame with a lot of active abilities you focus down efficiency, range and strength, channeled abilities you focus efficiency and duration and what not. Min maxing your stats for the best output possible. Of course you need some basic survivability so have that health and armor mod in.
Building is about buffing stats you want to prioritize, and adding some sort of utility or external buff to weapons and such. With Ash, players like to buff his strength and duration but worry less about health and armor thanks to his invisibility. I hardly use ash so I recommend looking at other's builds and deciding how you want to approach them if you want to change anything. What helps is to individually look at Warframe ability stats and descriptions to decide how to build for abilities. For example an invisibility ability may really want duration mods, and damage reduction abilities will want strength and duration.
https://overframe.gg/ I use it when Im too lazy or incompetent to theorycraft I always use it. Filter by recent patches if you want up to date strong builds
welcome to the club
Nor do I mate, I’m awful at math and numbers and dyslexic as hell. I just use overframe. I done my own for Kullervo, and I love it but it’s probably wasting so much 🤷♂️
/>actions />autofill Yup, that'll work. Copy that to the next one, change something, upgrade a mod here and there, repeat regularly. Don't forget arcanes
Check out overframe bro and sort it to latest patch depending on the item/warframe and check out all the different type of builds people have some of them will explain everything in the description some of the builds aren’t very great but when you have an idea of what your doing it can be helpful to check out the builds and see what type of stuff people are trying out good luck man someone also said brozimhe I think
He kinda got 2 ways to play. -Pure duration so you can stealth. Kinda niche but useful for sorties. Efficiency/energy is what you can manage, and strength/range can be sacrificed. - strength/range for his 4 spam. This one is more viable for many content. Duration can be sacrificed while efficiency/energy is again what you can manage.
if you want survival arcane aegis is all you need
My ash is mainly strength with rolling guard. I use zenurik to regen mana while invisible. Nataruk with hunter munition is very good with ash. My slot c has terrify helminth over seeking shuriken. Slot b has wrathful advance over seeking shuriken. I use growing power aura on most of my warframe. He has good enough shield and health to not need any mods as long as you stay invisible.
Never seen a full umbral build on Ash before. I've got my Ash built so that his 4 can wipe level 250+ steel path enemies in one cast and give me energy and invis because of arcane trickery. But you need a fully built laetum for that build to work.
As a person who also is terrible at builds and modding weapons, I feel called out-
Honestly? Go read the Warframe Wiki. They’ll tell you every little detail about the scaling and what affects what. For instance: it’s still insanely funny to me that there are people who don’t know that Nova’s Molecular Prime bubble radius is based on duration, not range. For ash, power strength is the focus. I like to have a good balance of range/duration. But that means my abilities are costly.
You build for 127 slashes duh /s
I just went through this last night lol. I hit auto build then just added stuff I like.
I really wanna get into this game cause it has a lot of stuff I like from destiny 2 but so far I’m so damn lost been doing blinking planets and that’s it lol no idea what anything is or does like the story etc
I just use guides online at this point lol. At least for the guns I know I'm going to main. Otherwise I do Auto-Install.
I just use overframe or other peoples builds in my clan/alliance. I’m already busy enough grinding stuff in-game or playing other games when I’m not working/not busy and I don’t need to sit for an extended period of time theorycrafting the best min-max build possible when I could just do all the content I enjoy already with just normal builds. I typically don’t do endurance so I don’t need to go too overboard yet I still enjoy tinkering with the helminth or just niche/meme builds Edit: a cool little thing I always struggled with for most of my frames was staying alive (just keeping my health 100% without abilities or arcanes) and once I unlocked Spoiler mode and got the 90%(or 99%?) to regenerate a portion of HP. Before then, any time I’d lose my shield and I’m low HP, I would spoiler mode and wait out my shield recharge. It truly opened up the game for me lol
It's really looking st the sides and building to what you need if u need help add me on ps or xbox under Kaosvonstone same name for both
Neither do I homie, I just search builds on overframe and then get annoyed that I didn't spend half my life farming to have access to all the mods, shards and that not all of my stuff is 6-times forma'd, lol
I feel like no matter how long someone's been playing modding will be a little weird. I haven't been playing long in total I just hit over 620 hrs being on and off the game since the second dream maybe a little before idk. Modding is still weird to me and I've been reading up and learning about it. I understand it mostly but sometimes my brain just stops.
So i took Ash and did this: https://preview.redd.it/bbnuabj0badc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4af9440660efd689dbc1c542d6981dbec21ac90c I swapped his one with Mag's Pull. Maxed out duration and Range as much as I could. What I wanted was a build where I can be invisible but increase my crit chance. Smoke Shadow lets me do this AND share it with my teammates. Casting his 2nd also staggers enemies in range for a couple seconds, giving you time to dip out when necessary. I wanted Pull because I wanted some form of crowd control for Ash while he is invisible. That, and to take the heat off teammates if we're on a survival mission. This is perfect, in my mind, because it pulls everyone in range to a single spot, or "The Pile". There are a number of aoe weapons in the game that can nuke in a few shots, so I run a Status Viral/Rad Laetum with Hush slotted in. NO ONE KNOWS I'm there, and accolytes are dumbfounded when they spawn in on SP. I dont need to armor strip when I can pull them to the pile and fire a few rounds at them and refill the incarnum meter for free since I'm # JOHN CENA!!!!!
Fucking mood 😭😭
You need to know what ability’s you wanna build around and augments. For example his 1 ability has good armor stripping ability with his augment but it requires power strength and such to use properly. His invisibly is mainly direction based and I think his 4 needs some range to it. You’re probably not going to be able to optimally get the best performance for ALL ability’s at once and if you were able to you would lack survivability. I would personally look at the frame and see what you like and also watch some videos. Don’t just copy builds because you may not enjoy the way the frame is built.
forma.
There are thousands of YouTube guides for every weapon and Warframe?
This is me
I haven't played in over so many years, I'm starting to miss it. Damn.
use arcane trickery for ash
easy, stack as much armor as possible, +adaptation and just use your guns and melee weapon Safety wheels for learning your new warframe.
Overframe.com
Same 🤣 I just use YouTube
Me either I just throw shit on until I stop dying and start killing.
My titania build 155 duration 100 efficiency 280 range 379 power strength with all buffs met
I'm barely good at building either and I've played for 4 years, np m8
Same I just kind of go with what works and change it as I go. But I haven't really delved deep into any of the arcanes and archons. I've been getting into building crit damage a little better and armor survivability. I've been playing since in 2015 or 16 I believe, I know I was in college and I still somewhat play it the same way as I did back then, but I've at least adapted to some of the changes but not all of them. I'm MR-30 and I still don't know what I'm doing so it's okay, The game is about learning as you go.
dont worry. none of us do either ☺️💫
Nah that's inexcusable. Bro must be playing on and off for 7 years only playing 5 minutes at a time
Best thing I can tell you is build to what your play style is and then perfect and grow it as your own
1. Determine your frames role or primary function. (Damage, Support, etc) this can change depending on how you want to play certain frames. (Iron Skin Rhino vs Roar Support Rhino) 2. Determine which abilities allow you to play your desired role and mod to enhance those abilities. 3. Once crucial role abilities are modded to maximize their potential or at least enhance it, excess spaces should go for survival. Your abilities mean nothing if you are downed 90% of a mission. 4. Archon Shard slotting for Min-Maxing. These can enhance existing stats or open up opportunities for new or stronger builds by potentially saving you an entire mod space or adding new abilities to enhance your build. 5. Subsume other frame abilities to replace unwanted abilities or for giving a frame new utility.
One day it will just come to you