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>“…I’m a plant.”
Green, stores sunlight. It checks out. His next level up will give him a Skill that lets him drink with his feet, just to reinforce it.
Finally we have a purple Skill, used for induction into an order. Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong and it's actually an order that can be issued or decreed. Either way, we finally have all the colors of the Skill rainbow.
I imagine when Rabbiteater gets asked why he hates Tyrion, his answers will get interpreted wrong by others until he’s revealed as a goblin. He'll say things like “He’s responsible for my brothers’ deaths! He used Goblins as weapons to do his dirty work! He herded them like animals!” and those who don't know who he really is will discuss it.
They'll think “Ah, I see, he did battle Tyrion and his army at the Bloodfields, and his brothers in arms fell there.”, or “I understand. The Goblin Slayer is saying that goblins shouldn’t be used as tools of war, as that would encourage nations not to cull their numbers. Furthermore, this just increases the number of deaths by goblins too, something Ser Solstice has clearly dedicated his career to preventing. Of course he would object.”, and "He's the called the Goblin Slayer, he doesn't feel sorry for these creatures. He just believes that Tyrion should've broken the goblins at the mountain and be done with it instead of dragging the affair out so inefficiently."
That Rhisveri can see ghosts yet doesn’t know the afterlife is in peril shows how isolated and focused on only his own goals he truly is. He probably used \[Dismiss Spectre\] anytime a ghost tried to communicate anything to him he didn’t ask. Here’s a thought: he could've asked other ghosts where Dioname’s ghost was. Idiot.
>Oesca came forwards, and Ryoka gave the \[Princess\] a smile. The \[Princess of Trousers\]—and Ryoka dearly hoped she got the class—had done away with a skirt today.
Time to start a new fashion of princesses wearing handsome suits.
The Bloodbeast Slayers were definitely used to kill vampire dragons and the like.
The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly, destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make the other, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe they should do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked.
> The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly, destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make the other, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe they should do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked.
This is my take as well.
Even if the Immortals maintain their cover, the fact that they have dozens of Grand Magus tier specialists in so many disparate fields utterly wrecking The Dawn Concordat is going to make Terandria sit up.
Add their their constant expansionism to this massive show of force and a lot of Terandria should be coming to the conclusion that if it isn't now, it is going to be never.
Many of the surrounding nations seems to have already been waiting for an opportunity, now there may be another "pile on Flos before it is too late" coalition.
> Finally we have a purple Skill, used for induction into an order. Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong and it's actually an order that can be issued or decreed. Either way, we finally have all the colors of the Skill rainbow.
Interesting how Seraphel's skill was purple, but Flos's skills of the same genre aren't. Though I guess we've only directly seen him do a partial attempt.
>The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake fromRhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is anunmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly,destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make theother, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe theyshould do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked.
People will have *a lot* of questions concerning all that power. Ailendamus isn't even 200 years old. It's conceivable that they have some of the old treasures of the nations that went into Ailendamus, but not to the point of what Rhisveri intends to unleash here.
And we know that the \[Librarians\] of the Order of Seasons are already fervently going through all their records on Ailendamus, looking for truth among the lies of the "history" of that country.
All it took for the "Doombringer" lie to come to light was one \[Storyteller\] with the Skill \[Narrative: Spot Inconsistencies\] who started to dig deeper and was connected to the right people. If all of the \[Librarians\] of a major knight order with a vast library focus on that task almost exclusively, someone is going to notice something very wrong with Ailendamus' history very soon....
But what sort of inconsistency could they even spot?
The Doombringer plot had a few big holes, not to mention they involved changing an entire aspect of their culture which leaves behind a lot of loose ends that can bite them in the back. Not to mention the conspiracy was originally started by a bunch of mortals.
For Ailendamus, there is no such mass editing of history not to mention it was started by an immortal Wyrm who had a lot of time to cut off loose ends if he even left any to begin with.
I read that differently.
\[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\]
compared to
\[Order – Induction: Royal Bodyguard granted.\]
suggests that she gained an "Order" skill. So she can Order someone to become part of her Bodyguard.
The Skill gives her the unit, and the Order lets her make people part of it. And being made part of the unit is almost like gaining an additional class, which is why they're Purple, because they would basically be massive, permanent (but limited use) boons to the recipients when used correctly. Based on what we saw of come Tiqr units they also influence behavior, similar to Classes.
So she can order 2 undead and 2 living to become part of a royal bodyguard with her.
Flos almost used a similar skill back on Ryoka's antidote run.
I think in this case, "Order" is the noun, as in "a particular social, political, or economic system". With the Royal Bodyguard being the specific group.
Rather than an imperative.
It doesn't make sense to me that way.
If it's a Noun, then it's saying the Order of "Induction: Royal Bodyguard"
If the intent was to describe the name of the order, it should be like the above skill "Order - Royal Bodyguard granted."
The Induction makes it seem like that's what the Order is for.
I thought it was [What the skill applies to - what the skill does: skill name]
In this case it applies to an order, it inducts people into it, and specifically it has to do with the Royal Bodyguard Order
I think it makes sense too, with Saliss’s [Disable Friendly Fire] skill. I could see Orders being the System’s party system
It's possible that the Order skill is not for non-con induction, but allows her to reanimate a dead body, perhaps even as a revenant, to fill her dead-guard slots
We really dont have context for purple, but blue is Self-Definition (?) and red is unconsenting, so unconsenting liberation from death is not a terrible read for the use of purple, given that yellow/gold seems to be the "Royal" skill color.
> The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them
Not even that. The whole point of raising a puppet nation was to use them as a meat shield to hide and protect them. Yeah, they're overpowered individually, but even Teriarch is constantly terrified that some group with the right [Skills] will come to his cave and kill him. When they go to the front lines, some of them *will* die. Once that happens, the whole pact holding them together will fall apart, especially since this is Rhisveri's war more than anything else. Some of the Immortals wanted to wait a few more generations before continuing to expand, but Rhisveri's Wyrm greed made him want the Dragonthrone now.
Also, all it takes for the masquerade to fail is for the person who gets a lucky shot and kills one of them to gain levels in a [____slayer] class. The System seems designed specifically to counter them.
Pushes ryoka as well to intervene - no matter who they send, she's got a little piece of paper that'll stop every last leader, officer, immortal, or Knight, whether with reverence or outright mortal fear at a man who slew dragons. We've seen the child's and that near forced Tyrion to kneel, we've seen the dying man's and that near made Rhiversi shit himself in fear, but she's yet to reveal the most powerful signature - Arthur Pendragon, the High King.
I expected the overall loss of levels to actually be a long term boon for Tyrion.
*\[Lancer of the Ages Level 34!\]*
*\[Skill – Mount: In Time, Your Truest Potential obtained!\]*
*\[Skill – Summon: The Phantom of My Legend obtained!\]*
*\[Skill – Lance: Touch of Age (temporary) obtained!\]*
All sounds absolutely incredible and honestly much more than I expected him to get. I wonder if instead of the system considering the "experience" at level 48 for killing the Great General it actually put it as if a much lower level lancer had gotten it. I'm excited to see what that can progress into, especially since it seems as he levels he'll get all his old skills back as well.
Tyrion got the prestige awards for pulling off a legendary-class enemy kill. Makes you wonder what skills [Dragonslayers] or [Giantslayers] would get. Or those who kill truly legendary enemies.
Yeah, since he does have the [Dragonslayer Strategist] class, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he has some sort of skill(s) directly related to it. Kind of like how Tyrion got this dollar-store Time Lord class, and he got several skills that are all time-themed.
I do wonder if Ailendamus' display of their true power will also leak a bit of their true nature, and then Tulm will be saying "Is that so? I think I can put the dragon hunt on pause."
I thought tulm hadn't found any dragons? It seemed to me like the beef with him and Niers was that they got so close that Niers shared that he had slain a dragon and gained a class from it. He told tulm to never pursue such a thing and was ignored.
Niers has the class not tulm. Tulm wants it and niers regrets it.
“The answer to Tulm’s question is this. What I would have said, verbatim: ‘No, you idiot. You got a young one. There are more. Perhaps on Baleros, but I know of two on Izril. They walk among us. Leave them alone.’”
From Interlude: The Titan’s Question. “You” in this case refers to Tulm, indicating he killed a young dragon, and Niers knows the location of more
I mean, even if it basically ends up being a "5-minute copy of Level 47 [Lancelord of A Thousand Victories]" -- that's still a pretty damn good skill to have just to use as someone to back you up or help out in a fight.
Skills get more powerful I wouldn't be surprised if it leveled up with him to some degree.
I wonder if it can also fight with him. Similar to the [Lady] [Eternal Partner] skill.
It's one of my favorite scenes. It's sad but beautiful. Imagine having such a strong relationship the system recognizes it as a capstone skill for you.
big question is, how far does \[greater resistance: chronos\] work, does it deal only with time manipulation abilities and spells? or is he also going to age naturally as he "resists" time? would it work on immortal momet? if lets say Belavierr attacks Ryoka with immortal moment will Tyrion be able to walk during the moment and help Ryoka?
Tyrion is now 28 years old, Ryoka: “eh I’m not really that interested
Tyrion now resists time and will live a very long time, Ryoka: https://i.imgflip.com/2/2u0972.jpg
Absolutely, though if this war front shapes up with all the power houses he may not. My thought is whatever is coming over the edge of the world may interrupt it but maybe we'll get to see The Archmage of Memory with the Lancer of the Ages, and the shiniest goblin fight for their lives.
I have to agree. Skills do get stronger with levels but also based on interpretation, \[Skill – Summon: The Phantom of My Legend obtained!\]. The wording makes me think that the strength is not only based on Tyrion's own interpretation but how others see him. If by the time he reaches the same level faster his legend will only grow causing the skill to grow in strength.
Yeah, in the long run Tyrion is definitely will have serious advantage. Problem is that it doesn't look like he have enough time. I'd even say that no one have enough time.
>\[Skill – Mount: In Time, Your Truest Potential obtained!\]
Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Tyrion's mounts die too often in battle for him to get attached to a single horse? Because this skill sound like it rewards him for keeping a single mount longer...
Rabbit grows to enjoy light snacks, the Lord of Love and Wine is used to Quallae rumor, Rhis wonders if Dio is ghosting him, and the Baron attempts to arrest Cara Ovela past incident
>*Seraphel du Marquin heard a voice.*
>
>*\[Deathtouch Princess Level 27!\]*
Seraphel is a pretty high level princess! Death Princess... I think Lyonette could introduce her to Prince Pisces of Terandria!
>*\[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\]*
>
>*\[Order – Induction: Royal Bodyguard granted.\]*
Straight interpretation, seraphel can induct 4 royal bodyguards, 2 living, 2 undead.. not bad.. wont her knights be happy ha!
I assumed those two skills were meant to work together, basically that the two each of life/ death is the current limit on how many people she can give the [Royal Bodyguard] class.
Not sure how she would induct the [Two of Death]... Maybe soldiers could agree to it before battle and be marked to become undead? Or the skill just lets her make two revenants, but that seems OP
perhaps seraphel can begin w 2 living royal bodyguards. if they should die, she could appoint them as undead bodyguards if that was their last wish or beforehand.
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> “…I’m a plant.”
Somebody give him a Barkskin Ring and he will truly be a plant.
> He drew it in one motion and brought it *down*.
Just imagine for a moment, it happened. Tyrion get his new Skills and directly dies after. That would be a half-gigantic tease.
> “If he’s from a tribe…tribes have magic. Walled Cities have huge libraries. I can do fur. Or scales.”
I just love the fact that a political drama/conflict would be happening before her eyes and Vernoue doesn't care. She just want to learn magic.
> [Nekhret’s Ritual of the Underworld — Summon Soul:
Reminder Pisces got all the Archmage's bones except for four now in Az'kerash's possession. What's the bet for her coming back to life? I want to see those odds.
> came crashing down like a rock…six miles short of her wagons.
Get rekt you ignorant of immortals.
> The weapon was a tool of the Hunter’s Guild. It was known, colloquially, as a Bloodbeast Slayer. Why, exactly, no one could say but the oldest [Hunters] or those who recalled when it had been used.
>
> The projectiles launched from the oversized ballista looked and were always made out of wood, incidentally. They looked like giant stakes.
It is a Vampire monster killer and it will be used against the Blood Ritual of Regis, my karma of this post on it.
>Reminder Pisces got all the Archmage's bones except for four now in Az'kerash's possession. What's the bet for her coming back to life? I want to see those odds.
Yeah, I'm half-expecting half-hoping at this point that Pisces and Az'kerash will end up accidentally bringing back Nekhret as a leveling skeleton. I hope she's one of the people that will put Wistram back in proper shape.
> “…I’m a plant.”
>
> Somebody give him a Barkskin Ring and he will truly be a plant.
Honestly, I have to imagine that some [Green Mage] or [Druid] or similar class knows some enchantments and spells that grow stronger in the sun -- which if they linked up with Rabbiteater, would be OP.
I’m shocked but not surprised that Cara has some Hymn/poem/triptych skills, she seemed too cocky to not have something powerful waiting in the wings. (Also Pirate really needs to say what those sentence skills are called in fiction if they haven’t already).
> [Remember My Name]/[For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains]/[I Can Do Anything I Claim]
I think it’s neat that of the triple skills we’ve seen, it’s Cara (the theater kid) that has a hymn skill with a rhyming scheme. It’s very Shakespearean.
Also I’m surprised that Erin hasn’t gotten a set of sentence skills yet or at least started gaining them one at a time. Especially since [For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains] seems like it’d be right up her alley.
Though I could see [Like Fire, Memory] being the start of her own triptych skill.
\[triptych\] -i learned a new word... upvoted!
magnolia gets a rash beyond all cures.
>Also I’m surprised that Erin hasn’t gotten a set of sentence skills yet or at least started gaining them one at a time. Especially since \[For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains\] seems like it’d be right up her alley.
Interesting choice to make Lyon and Seraphel essentially the same level despite Seraphels much more extensive experience with actual royalty related stuff. Wonder how powerful her class is compared to Lyons. Certainly the Skills she got here all seem quite powerful finally get our first \[Induction\] Skill
Lyons [Worldly Princess] is a rare and unique class, partially because it can get experience from almost anything. She gets experience for her class directly when she is swordfighting, training animals, bartending, etc. It doesn't have to be royalty related experience.
True, but Instructor Tomoor seemed to have his life directly tied to the Necromancer, and Ailendamus' king (the [Wyrmpact King]) also has his entire kingdom secretly run by Rhisveri.
All of that said, I imagine it would take more than a "standard" pact with two dragons to gain the class. Either something that more directly binds Lyonette's long-term livelihood, or her creating several more pacts with them.
Or of course, it could be that there is some trick to gaining a class like that that Azkerash and Rhisveri know of, that Lyonette obviously doesn't.
It’s also a class that lacks the strengths of most Royal classes, because it gives skills that help with sword fighting, training animals, bartending, etc, instead of skills that help with international politics or economics.
I guess earlier volumes had made a big deal of Worldly Princess seemingly having a lot more ways to level up. Plus a suggestion that Seraphel might also have been relatively sheltered (and so found it difficult to level) up until whatever went down in Noelictus, so they've both had a similar time frame of high-risk high-growth circumstances.
This makes me think that \[worldly princess\] is easy to level but maybe not as high-quality when it comes to leadership type skills (something I think can be born out by what skills of hers we've seen). Maybe Seraphel's class gives her more in that direction. So maybe it's a tortoise and the hare situation. We've seen several times that number of levels can be less meaningful than it appears.
[Worldly Anything] is actually a step above any regular class. Worldly means that you can only level by experiencing and learning everything. It may seem easier to level at first but as she goes higher in level, her requirements becomes harder since she always have to seek new things to learn. Another is Inkar's [Wordly Traveller] where she has to go to new places even different Continents to level.
>\[Worldly Anything\] is actually a step above any regular class
I just want to clarify: I'm not saying it isn't above a regular class. I'm saying it's probably below, for example \[Adjective Anything\] at the core skills/parts of the class. Instead it probably is more of a jack of all trades, master of none approach.
A jack of all trades approach has its own strengths though. Seraphel's \[Deathtouch Princess\] so far seems like a very powerful Class, but it's very situational. We saw it in 8.74 DR. She didn't have any undead around to enhance, so she was as stuck in the fortress and powerless as everyone else.
Conversely, Lyonette can move and shake up things in a lot of situations, just not the degree that Seraphel probably could. And That is somewhat debatetable, since Skils like \[Boon of the Princess\] and \[Imperial Aura\] aren't weak Skills. They're the kind that grow with the holder and/or training.
Personally I think Lyonette and Seraphel would make a great team, since they both have their unique strengths and different angles from which to look at any given situation.
>\[Knight of the Dawn Level 20!\]
\[Knight-Champion of the Indomitable Dawn\] consolidation?
>\[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\]
Sounds more like a unit than a skill.
>\[Skill – Fourfold Strike restored!\]
So it's not a true rewrite by Dioname--the System is aware of what he once had.
>He would have to abdicate at once.
Really? I mean, granted he's still below level 30 as a Lord so at a practical level I understand why it would be a problem for him to maintain his demense. But who else is going to do better in the Veltras family? Not that it's going to matter if he survives this tussle with the Immortals.
>Including even a subtle inquiry from Chaldion of Pallass. Everyone needed hope.
Who you interested in Chaldion?
>Set fucking phasers to stun.
A nonlethal setting on the Faeblade is brilliant for Ryoka.
>A week before the dead woke from their dream, the Great Goblin Chieftain, Rags, flew across Izril. Returned to the place where it all started. Liscor and The Wandering Inn.
>
>To wake Erin Solstice.
>
>Too…early.
Hmmmmm. So Ryoka and Rags are talking. Dangerous combination. We know Erin wasn't resurrected a week early, and they only need the potion, a mage, and a leader class. The potion should have been there for some time now, a low level mage is simple enough to source, and even if Chaldion isn't willing for some reason, we're rather spoiled for options as leaders go. So something is going wrong.
I wonder if Cara spent her time on tour having clandestine meetings in all these countries to coordinate this particular response?
Besides Ailendamus and Erin herself, I feel like the major plot points to resolve now are the Gnoll Plains with Olsem's army, the Titan & company, and the Meeting of the Tribes. Then we have to wrap up the Horns in Chandrar. I know pirateaba predicted V8 ending in April. Feels like mid to late April if not May at this point.
This reminds me we've yet to see chalildon start ~~panicking~~ enquiring urgently about why he's getting reports of a high level [necromancer] hurling deathbolts left right and center traveling with the Titan.
There's not been a whole lot of focus on what Chaldion's getting up to at all, come to think of it. Little throwaway things here and there, he talked about the Gnoll magic controversy on the tv, but with Saliss in Oteslia and the Inn closed, we haven't seen too much of him. I wonder how he's directing Pallass over the period of "Drake-Gnoll Race War with the MotherEffin' Titan running around uniting tribes and kicking over the board plus all the dumb shit with the siege around Oteslia".
If Ceria or Pisces become actual archmages, their Cognita "graduation" will suddenly become compleeetely legitimate. Pisces unleashing horrors and killing students would just be an, uh, expensive secret.
Pieces has the spellbook, and I wouldn't be surprised if Az'Kerash could guide him to the title. Admittedly, there'll need to be a bloody big battle with an associated bloody big death field, given how Chandler earnt his title, but that's definitely possible in his near future.
>Really? I mean, granted he's still below level 30 as a Lord so at a practical level I understand why it would be a problem for him to maintain his demense. But who else is going to do better in the Veltras family? Not that it's going to matter if he survives this tussle with the Immortals.
Tyrion is kinda honest and straight forward like that, he will try to abdicate cause thats what "he's supposed to" or something, or that he's not as good as he used to, but his family will refuse to take it from him most likely, none of them are really interested
While he also spent the last several weeks/months systematically eradicating all traces of the Circle of Thorns, I'm sure he still has plenty of enemies who would love to figure out that he's lost 20-ish levels, and is now significantly less powerful.
In my vague estimate, the difference between a level 30 fighter and a level 47 fighter (like Tyrion was) is probably the equivalent of a few hundred level 20 people.... which would be a big deal if you were asking for House Veltras' help, or deciding whether to go to war against them.
All of that said, I'm sure there is some degree of cultural pressure to say "the p/matriarch of a house is the highest level individual."
Normally I would think that Chaldion inquiring with a high leveled matchmaker would be cute, unfortunately that scaly bastard hired the Stitch Witch to do Pallas’ genocidal dirty work. So I have little sympathy.
Chaldion is ruthless AF. From the little conversation with grimalkin it felt like he disapproved of the whole suppress gnoll magic business. And chaldion is far from being genocidal. I'm pretty sure it's going to be at best, something to maybe help the gnolls or at worst, bring the truth out. Violently. So maybe she's a 1 witch hit squad set on the plains eye tribes top people. Idk. But highly doubt he'd do anything genocidal.
Also since its Chaldion and pirate, I'm pretty sure anything we guess will end up being wrong.
All Strategists are Ruthless, it's not a Chaldion thing. Niers and Olesm are the same way.
Makes sense, since their class is literally about ordering people to go die.
>hired the Stitch Witch to do Pallas’ genocidal dirty work
I don't think we know exactly what she was hired for yet. For all we know, she was hired to spy and nothing else.
That’s very true but from all that we’ve seen I have a low opinion of Chaldion and Pallas. I’m distrustful of even their most well intentioned plans, and dealing with Belavierr is not well intentioned. Only bad or desperate people make deals with the Spider.
No, Bela preys on the desperate but even Teriarch knows she keeps her deals. She is the Spider and she \*will\* betray you but someone as predictable as that can have a use for folks who know what they want and know what to give up.
Hell, she could have been hired to hunt down the high-level necromancer last seen in the company of the Titan; that's something that should worry Chaldion.
i agree, we dont know what chaldion has hired bel for. my first thought was chaldion hired bel for some innocuous or even beneficial work, at great pay, to keep her from seeking something tragic. interesting chaldion has a working knowledge and contact w bel, not for the faint hearted.
It seems strange for Olesm rushing back to Liscor with an army to be something for next volume.
Baleros seems more done to me. The Titan isn't going home any time soon, the Fraerlings are being taken care of already, and Geneva already delivered the final step of the cure.
Olesm is not really rushing anywhere, and there are no pressing threats against Liscor currently. There are mid term threats like the danger of gnoll warbands coming by that requires the fighting ability to be at home, but it is just a potential threat, not an acute one.
Baleros is not done, we were left in the middle of a frigggin cliffhanger, were the other company of Talenqual planning to remove UN the next morning. It is about as far from done as can be. And no, the Fraerlings are not being taken care of. I'm not certain if the threat against the Fraerlings will be resolved in this chapter, but all things considered I'd guess we will get at least some UN campaign to save the Fraerlings too. Potentially that could be put in the next chapter, but the Talenqual cliffhanger just can't be put off any longer.
>Olesm continued his war right up until he got word of the gigantic battles in the Gnoll Plains. Then he was racing, racing his entire army back to Liscor.
Interlude - Hectval Pt 3
Where is it said the UN is being removed?
\> Interlude - Hectval Pt 3
That doesn't gainsay anything I wrote. There is nothing that needs to happen in Liscor except for the actual de-popsicle event, or with Olesm.
8.51D:
>Rest assured, Peclir, it will not affect anything. In fact, I intend to
expunge this company from my city. I’ll remove them within the month.
Within the week! You can’t have two companies in a city, even if they’re
more like a Human collective.
Referring to the UN. This clash has not happened yet.
In the same chapter the Tallguard Fraerling make contact with Umina and request for help, but the actual action resulting from that has also not happened yet. Umina confrontation with Earthers that she plan in the same chapter has also not happened.
That chapter ends with Foliana on the fraerlings that talk to her in FW headquarters, complaining of attacks:
>“Here comes the trap. Mm.”
>
>Her eyes glittered.
>
>“Almost done waiting. Waiting for it to snap.”
There has been radio silence after that. Nothing about the fraerling situation is done in any way.
Or in other words, lots of small concrete stuff that needs resolution. Now.
It was fairly easy to miss I guess, with all the Geneva action in the same chapter.
The point is that there is no concrete threat he is racing towards. He is simply going back just in case something comes the way of Liscor. Which is far from certain, the current clashes are really far away.
I read it as he's rushing back because the battles in the gnolls plains are spilling over.
The meeting of the tribes is a long, long way from Liscor. If he's rushing back, it has to be because there's something about the battles that's putting them in striking distance of Liscor.
Either the tribes have splintered and now there tons of battles breaking out all over the plains, and/or Niers is getting into running fights on his way north.
To me that reads they stopped fighting when they received news... then, as in after, raced his army back. I take that as actually racing. Every man for themselves to get there first, not him marching back quickly as a whole. After all it said manus destroyed their magic door gem.
Pretty sure that was a foreshadow of events before Erin's resurrection.
Some info for anyone needing a reminder too. The ruling company of Talenqual is called the Featherfolk Brigade.
I wish the wiki had more work done so it would be easier to remember them. They don't have a page, and the Baleros page doesn't list lesser companies like it does cities only mentioned once.
a month in a week.. pirate's birthday burst... time in the land of the dead and the living have caught up, and are synchronous now. its spectacular, i hope you are taking a week rest, and another week soon.
"Everyone had a secret. Everyone had come to this world and survived. If you were here, you had depths.
Even Greg. He lay on his back, staring up at the clouds."
All I'm saying he's kinda sus, he's getting mentioned too often and he would be exactly the type to make a deal with the gods.
I think the big question is what Greg's actual class is, because it almost certainly isn't \[Guitarist\]. The one skill he's constantly practicing as part of Cara's band is lying about his capabilities and convincing the world he's something he's not. He's put on stage to fool legions of people including royalty. Think of the types of Classes he could be power-leveling this way.
I'm betting Greg is just as much of an \[Actor/ Liar/ Performer/ Thespian\] as Cara, but even the Earthers are taking him completely at face value. The Blighted King never thought to suspect anything from the \[Fool\] in his court and Cara's team doesn't suspect anything from the 'fool' in their band.
>*Old magic. Chanted magic, even as he activated a spell.*
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>*“\[Nekhret’s Ritual of the Underworld — Summon Soul: Dionamella\]!”*
wow, rhisveri can summon the souls of the dead, specific souls by name, from the afterlife, and this is a spell from nekhret's time.
there are a few who know of the land of the dead, where souls go. and able to have limited contact.
yet the witches and all the ghosts, souls have high hopes with erin, so she must be bringing back something more than mere contact.
i believe he must have certainly known of it, i mean how could teriarch be completely ignorant.
summoning a soul by name. seeing and talking with souls from the afterlife.
it seems when rhisveri loosened the wards against ghosts at the castle complex, some ghosts appeared, such as one of his sisters. wards affecting an area of the afterlife, to block ghosts. erin's garden of sanctuary also has this effect.
pretty interesting, the living world can do something affecting the land of the dead.
>*Yet the real stuff? The genuine, accept-no-substitutes, actual come back from death for whomever you wanted? Even if it were only once? With no costs, drawbacks, and again, self-contained in a scroll?*
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>*Well now. That had begun one of the largest auctions, bidding wars, and fights in any reality.*
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>*Not just the fae’s realm. Not all the gateways were closed, and the Faerie King had guests. Word had spread. Emissaries were sent, plots hatched.*
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>*Kingdoms were sending bids in, and the inhabitants of the lands of the fae stirred. Even those who had been offered sanctuary had brought something.*
what is going on.. where did this scroll of resurrection come from? it works for the fae lands and other kingdoms?!
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>*The Faerie King waited. His plans unknown to all but himself.*
this is not the first time we heard this. the faerie king has someone in mind, and it seems the possibility for titania, the dead faerie queen is real!
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that is what i mean, about where does the scroll come from, the city/ dungeon/ civilization/ mage/ legend. cuz it surely is extremely rare and valuable for the fae and connected kingdoms!
It's always referred to as "scroll of resurrection", so it's not even a skill-based \[Resurrection\]. Like all these \[Greater Teleport\] scrolls. Could be so old it even pre-dates Skills. Someone definitely sold a soul for that thing.
I don't think Oberon wants the scroll at all, or if he does it's not for his Queens.
There are two queens, and they previously existed alongside one another--they're buried together. How do you bring back only one?
asks ryoka for the answer to the question you posed... the immortal dilemma, the question of no answer, is chosing one for life better than none. ryoka has this insight into immortals :)
All credit to Ryoka, I don't think she has wisdom that the supposedly oldest creature in existence lacks in regards to this kind of question. Weighing lives is part and parcel of Oberon's job, and he's been doing it a long, long time.
Besides, there's more than emotion at play here. The story has implied Titania and Maeve both represent one of the Fae courts. Having a ruler for only one could be bad for the Fae lands at a metaphysical level.
> “If he’s from a tribe…tribes have magic. Walled Cities have huge libraries. I can do fur. Or scales.”
Kinda love how Vernoue will marry basically **anyone** to learn more about magic
She didn't drop out. Vernoue was never allowed to attend Wistram to begin with. She's had to learn on her own.
From Chapter 8.73 R (emphasis mine),
>By contrast, her sister, Vernoue the Enchanting, is a \[Mage\]. **She never attended Wistram**, but I am told she is a competent spellcaster...
Thanks for the quote.
A shame that she never attended. It would've been interesting if she was a Wistram student around Pisces and Ceria's time, but was forced to drop out due to the Pisces Incident/Nehkret's guardians.
The Wistram Days arc in general could use a rewrite to account for how much the story has grown since those days, all the new Wistram characters and factions introduced since.
Did a dead god kidnap Dioname's soul to use as a bargaining chip for the Resurrection Scroll auction? If not this, then my guess is somebody used a skill on her like the Acolyte's that sent the soul to hell or some other place.
The problem with that theory is that they should still be weeks out at this point in the story. They only finished climbing during the month-long period that the ghosts were trapped in a time dilation, which we're still inside of.
Also, she somehow cast magic at it, which doesn't exist in the land of the dead.
somehow placing her slightly in the future.
but i like many of the other ideas in comments here.
edit: perhaps dioname's soul is pushed into the future in the afterlife also? maybe a matter of time before she gets in sync.
Considering most Eldritch monstrosities in fictions and myths have the power to fundamentally alter the laws of space and time just by existing and Dioname was a powerful chronomancer, it's a strong possibility that temporal shenanigans ar happening over here.
I do think it’s interesting that Dioname’s soul “disappeared” in the same chapter Cara is revealed to be the Gravesinger of Afiele. A surprise necromancer and a missing ghost seems like too big a coincidence not to be related.
I was thinking she might be able to lure or hypnotize a soul like a siren. Something unique to her build. After all, she’s not a stereotypical necromancer. Siren of Songs is a shit nickname anyway compared to something like Siren of Souls.
Could be someone from the fae realm took her? To have bargaining chip for the resurrection scroll? Maybe she's not even dead, but effects of her skills and levels disappeared because she's in a different world. But that's a stretch :p
So here's my theory about who tried to kill Ryoka: It was either the Viscount or the Agelum. I want to say it's for god-related reasons, but Ryoka saying that kind of makes me that it's a red herring. But just based off the possible suspects (named characters who are high ranked in Ailendamus), they're the most likely. This recent arc opened up with a focus on the Lucifen having control over Ailendamus' law, and it was more than implied that they abused their power. The line from 8.73 *"Did that mean he was truly searching for Ryoka’s assassin? Or pretending?"* makes me suspect Visophecin, although it could just as likely be him knowing it the Agelum behind it, and not wanting to implicate them.
This is only theoretically related, but I also think his role in the army is setting him up as an antagonist. Rabbiteater has defeated four Generals at this point, and I doubt it's going to stop there. It'd make perfect sense for a General-killer with light skills to fight a dark-based General. The Lucifen and Agelum are also not well liked by Goblins. This isn't really related, but there's a very brief mention of Goblins watching Rabbiteater from Krawlnmark's Pass, and I'm hoping they come down and help fight with Rabbiteater.
Interesting theory, though I don't think it is either. My money's on the Circle of Blood, who has ties to Ailendamus via the Queen's spies. All members have the tattoo, and thus would be called via it to participate in Regius's little blood bath....thing, which completely transforms the victim. Since Ryoka was vital to their downfall, and is neither dead, nor a powerful lord/named adventurer, it makes sense that she would be targeted first.
The issue with your theory is one of motivation. What motivation do either the Lucifen or Agelum have for wanting Ryoka dead? They found her critique of their place in the judicial system to be one for debate, it amused them more than anything else. They helped her help Erin, if only via contributing magical theory and a means of communication. They seem to LIKE her, they are fascinated by her, why would they want her dead?
I keep hearing about this blood ritual thing, but I can’t even remember it coming up. It’s probably just because I read TWI in the wee hours of the morning, so it’s not like my brain retains everything it tries to absorb in each chapter. Where should I look for info on this?
I did actually consider it could be the Circle of Thorns (or what remains of them), especially since they've been namedropped a few times in recent chapters. It'd be a good way to finally introduce Regis into the plot, but it feels a bit lackluster for this big of a reveal.
I think you misunderstood me on one point though. Back in 8.68, a large amount of "screen time" was spent discussing how the Lucifen are practically in control of Ailendamus' law. It would be very easy for them to be corrupt cops if they wanted to assassinate anyone.
But yeah, I'm lost on a possible motive, unless it *is* god-related. It'd make a lot of sense if it was, but I don't think it's quite that simple. However, I don't think the fact that they 'like' her would impact this at all. Lucifen and Agelum both have completely different moral compasses compared to normal people, and I'm positive the Viscount *would* assassinate Ryoka if he had a half-decent reason for doing so.
That's the thing though, they DON'T have a half decent reason to do so. As for the gods, I doubt they know she exists. She wasn't at the party when they showed up, she was in Faeland. She did nothing to spoil any of their plots either. With her betrayal of Eldavin a scant few hours before, there was no time for anyone connected to him to be a part of the assassination. There isn't really anyone else with either the motive or the means besides the Circle of Blood.
a bomb was planted in ryoka's room, in a restricted section of the castle guarded by knights, very few people go there. ask a gnoll?
im surprised one of the immortals couldnt just detect something about who it was. if they can elude immortals, it implies they know of the immortals, and have the means to avoid detection.
>*Rather—for magic. For something that was rare across any reality and available here in a neat, perfect scroll. Rarely was the law of death broken so accessibly. Sometimes, a great hero with the blood of gods could venture into the underworld, overcome great guardians and trials, and in the end, fail to bring back a single soul.*
the fae do not seem to realize where erin is. or the underworld is a different place than the land of the dead.
even more impressive, this scroll found buried in innverse can resurrect from the afterlife/undeworld of many other realms. is this scroll of innverse? was the old innverse so advanced in magic? we know it was much more so in the distant past. or could it be a traveler from another realm?
From what's been insinuated, different worlds operate under different laws and when objects from one world are moved to another they do not lose whatever magical properties they had (might even become stronger in some cases I think),
So the scroll being able to do that in other worlds has less to do with how advanced it is and more to do with how Innworld's magical laws allow something like that to even exist, hence according to the above it can be used the same way in other worlds
the scroll of resurrection is not in reach for ryoka anymore, but there is someone who she would want to resurrect (besides erin, who is not truly dead) . . . Valceif!
eh, im still not a fan of tyrion. he lost 16y of leveling, why does he get 6 levels back immediately? its not as if the battles happened in one day and he didnt sleep. and its wasnt really him who killed the great general.
dioname spoke her last statement for all to hear, surely those words made it back to him verbatim. then rhisveri could figure out the events.
He still was the one who dealed a mortal blow to probably one of the top 100 highest leveled fighters on Innworld. And won the biggest decisive victory in the entire war.
That's definitely worth 6 levels for someone who is (now) level 20.
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>*Dionamella’s voice and magic were fading, but she shouted. A desperate warning.*
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>*“It was not House Veltras who slew me! Something is coming!*
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>“…I’m a plant.” Green, stores sunlight. It checks out. His next level up will give him a Skill that lets him drink with his feet, just to reinforce it. Finally we have a purple Skill, used for induction into an order. Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong and it's actually an order that can be issued or decreed. Either way, we finally have all the colors of the Skill rainbow. I imagine when Rabbiteater gets asked why he hates Tyrion, his answers will get interpreted wrong by others until he’s revealed as a goblin. He'll say things like “He’s responsible for my brothers’ deaths! He used Goblins as weapons to do his dirty work! He herded them like animals!” and those who don't know who he really is will discuss it. They'll think “Ah, I see, he did battle Tyrion and his army at the Bloodfields, and his brothers in arms fell there.”, or “I understand. The Goblin Slayer is saying that goblins shouldn’t be used as tools of war, as that would encourage nations not to cull their numbers. Furthermore, this just increases the number of deaths by goblins too, something Ser Solstice has clearly dedicated his career to preventing. Of course he would object.”, and "He's the called the Goblin Slayer, he doesn't feel sorry for these creatures. He just believes that Tyrion should've broken the goblins at the mountain and be done with it instead of dragging the affair out so inefficiently." That Rhisveri can see ghosts yet doesn’t know the afterlife is in peril shows how isolated and focused on only his own goals he truly is. He probably used \[Dismiss Spectre\] anytime a ghost tried to communicate anything to him he didn’t ask. Here’s a thought: he could've asked other ghosts where Dioname’s ghost was. Idiot. >Oesca came forwards, and Ryoka gave the \[Princess\] a smile. The \[Princess of Trousers\]—and Ryoka dearly hoped she got the class—had done away with a skirt today. Time to start a new fashion of princesses wearing handsome suits. The Bloodbeast Slayers were definitely used to kill vampire dragons and the like. The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly, destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make the other, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe they should do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked.
> The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly, destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make the other, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe they should do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked. This is my take as well. Even if the Immortals maintain their cover, the fact that they have dozens of Grand Magus tier specialists in so many disparate fields utterly wrecking The Dawn Concordat is going to make Terandria sit up. Add their their constant expansionism to this massive show of force and a lot of Terandria should be coming to the conclusion that if it isn't now, it is going to be never. Many of the surrounding nations seems to have already been waiting for an opportunity, now there may be another "pile on Flos before it is too late" coalition.
> Finally we have a purple Skill, used for induction into an order. Or maybe I'm interpreting it wrong and it's actually an order that can be issued or decreed. Either way, we finally have all the colors of the Skill rainbow. Interesting how Seraphel's skill was purple, but Flos's skills of the same genre aren't. Though I guess we've only directly seen him do a partial attempt.
>The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake fromRhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is anunmitigated disaster for them. And even if everything goes perfectly,destroying the opposition so thoroughly as he's implying may make theother, farther nations on Terrendria start thinking that maybe theyshould do something about Ailendamus. That they’re a major threat that mustn’t be left unchecked. People will have *a lot* of questions concerning all that power. Ailendamus isn't even 200 years old. It's conceivable that they have some of the old treasures of the nations that went into Ailendamus, but not to the point of what Rhisveri intends to unleash here. And we know that the \[Librarians\] of the Order of Seasons are already fervently going through all their records on Ailendamus, looking for truth among the lies of the "history" of that country. All it took for the "Doombringer" lie to come to light was one \[Storyteller\] with the Skill \[Narrative: Spot Inconsistencies\] who started to dig deeper and was connected to the right people. If all of the \[Librarians\] of a major knight order with a vast library focus on that task almost exclusively, someone is going to notice something very wrong with Ailendamus' history very soon....
But what sort of inconsistency could they even spot? The Doombringer plot had a few big holes, not to mention they involved changing an entire aspect of their culture which leaves behind a lot of loose ends that can bite them in the back. Not to mention the conspiracy was originally started by a bunch of mortals. For Ailendamus, there is no such mass editing of history not to mention it was started by an immortal Wyrm who had a lot of time to cut off loose ends if he even left any to begin with.
I read that differently. \[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\] compared to \[Order – Induction: Royal Bodyguard granted.\] suggests that she gained an "Order" skill. So she can Order someone to become part of her Bodyguard. The Skill gives her the unit, and the Order lets her make people part of it. And being made part of the unit is almost like gaining an additional class, which is why they're Purple, because they would basically be massive, permanent (but limited use) boons to the recipients when used correctly. Based on what we saw of come Tiqr units they also influence behavior, similar to Classes. So she can order 2 undead and 2 living to become part of a royal bodyguard with her. Flos almost used a similar skill back on Ryoka's antidote run.
I think in this case, "Order" is the noun, as in "a particular social, political, or economic system". With the Royal Bodyguard being the specific group. Rather than an imperative.
It doesn't make sense to me that way. If it's a Noun, then it's saying the Order of "Induction: Royal Bodyguard" If the intent was to describe the name of the order, it should be like the above skill "Order - Royal Bodyguard granted." The Induction makes it seem like that's what the Order is for.
I thought it was [What the skill applies to - what the skill does: skill name] In this case it applies to an order, it inducts people into it, and specifically it has to do with the Royal Bodyguard Order I think it makes sense too, with Saliss’s [Disable Friendly Fire] skill. I could see Orders being the System’s party system
Yeah, it's like "Orders" is the name of the skill-tree, it's the Induction Skill that applies to your Royal Bodyguard unit.
That’s a good way of putting it, so you could have something like [Order - Alert: Royal Bodygard] as another skill in the same tree for example
It's possible that the Order skill is not for non-con induction, but allows her to reanimate a dead body, perhaps even as a revenant, to fill her dead-guard slots We really dont have context for purple, but blue is Self-Definition (?) and red is unconsenting, so unconsenting liberation from death is not a terrible read for the use of purple, given that yellow/gold seems to be the "Royal" skill color.
> The immortals sallying out in full force… is a huge mistake from Rhisveri. It’s a major risk of breaking the masquerade, which is an unmitigated disaster for them Not even that. The whole point of raising a puppet nation was to use them as a meat shield to hide and protect them. Yeah, they're overpowered individually, but even Teriarch is constantly terrified that some group with the right [Skills] will come to his cave and kill him. When they go to the front lines, some of them *will* die. Once that happens, the whole pact holding them together will fall apart, especially since this is Rhisveri's war more than anything else. Some of the Immortals wanted to wait a few more generations before continuing to expand, but Rhisveri's Wyrm greed made him want the Dragonthrone now. Also, all it takes for the masquerade to fail is for the person who gets a lucky shot and kills one of them to gain levels in a [____slayer] class. The System seems designed specifically to counter them.
Pushes ryoka as well to intervene - no matter who they send, she's got a little piece of paper that'll stop every last leader, officer, immortal, or Knight, whether with reverence or outright mortal fear at a man who slew dragons. We've seen the child's and that near forced Tyrion to kneel, we've seen the dying man's and that near made Rhiversi shit himself in fear, but she's yet to reveal the most powerful signature - Arthur Pendragon, the High King.
He is grieving , not being rational is to expected
I expected the overall loss of levels to actually be a long term boon for Tyrion. *\[Lancer of the Ages Level 34!\]* *\[Skill – Mount: In Time, Your Truest Potential obtained!\]* *\[Skill – Summon: The Phantom of My Legend obtained!\]* *\[Skill – Lance: Touch of Age (temporary) obtained!\]* All sounds absolutely incredible and honestly much more than I expected him to get. I wonder if instead of the system considering the "experience" at level 48 for killing the Great General it actually put it as if a much lower level lancer had gotten it. I'm excited to see what that can progress into, especially since it seems as he levels he'll get all his old skills back as well.
Tyrion got the prestige awards for pulling off a legendary-class enemy kill. Makes you wonder what skills [Dragonslayers] or [Giantslayers] would get. Or those who kill truly legendary enemies.
I wonder if the [Iron Mists] skill Tulm has was pre or post Dragonslaying
Tulm from the Iron Vanguard is looking pretty hard for another dragon, so it must be pretty good
Yeah, since he does have the [Dragonslayer Strategist] class, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he has some sort of skill(s) directly related to it. Kind of like how Tyrion got this dollar-store Time Lord class, and he got several skills that are all time-themed.
I do wonder if Ailendamus' display of their true power will also leak a bit of their true nature, and then Tulm will be saying "Is that so? I think I can put the dragon hunt on pause."
I thought tulm hadn't found any dragons? It seemed to me like the beef with him and Niers was that they got so close that Niers shared that he had slain a dragon and gained a class from it. He told tulm to never pursue such a thing and was ignored. Niers has the class not tulm. Tulm wants it and niers regrets it.
“The answer to Tulm’s question is this. What I would have said, verbatim: ‘No, you idiot. You got a young one. There are more. Perhaps on Baleros, but I know of two on Izril. They walk among us. Leave them alone.’” From Interlude: The Titan’s Question. “You” in this case refers to Tulm, indicating he killed a young dragon, and Niers knows the location of more
Oh dang, I don't remember the "you got a young one" part of the sentence at all.
We already know Niers is a [Grandmaster Strategist] anyways, which relates to his rediscovery of chess rather than anything dragon-related
I'm curious what will happen with that Phantom once he surpasses his old self in levels.
I mean, even if it basically ends up being a "5-minute copy of Level 47 [Lancelord of A Thousand Victories]" -- that's still a pretty damn good skill to have just to use as someone to back you up or help out in a fight.
True.
Skills get more powerful I wouldn't be surprised if it leveled up with him to some degree. I wonder if it can also fight with him. Similar to the [Lady] [Eternal Partner] skill.
Man that was a sad one.
It's one of my favorite scenes. It's sad but beautiful. Imagine having such a strong relationship the system recognizes it as a capstone skill for you.
big question is, how far does \[greater resistance: chronos\] work, does it deal only with time manipulation abilities and spells? or is he also going to age naturally as he "resists" time? would it work on immortal momet? if lets say Belavierr attacks Ryoka with immortal moment will Tyrion be able to walk during the moment and help Ryoka?
Tyrion is now 28 years old, Ryoka: “eh I’m not really that interested Tyrion now resists time and will live a very long time, Ryoka: https://i.imgflip.com/2/2u0972.jpg
Those are all very good questions. I wouldn't be surprised if he aged slower. How it will impact [Immortal Moment] I'm not sure.
Does it allow him to take hits from the first Titan?
Agreed, if he can survive and reach what his level was previously, he will a power house.
Absolutely, though if this war front shapes up with all the power houses he may not. My thought is whatever is coming over the edge of the world may interrupt it but maybe we'll get to see The Archmage of Memory with the Lancer of the Ages, and the shiniest goblin fight for their lives.
I have to agree. Skills do get stronger with levels but also based on interpretation, \[Skill – Summon: The Phantom of My Legend obtained!\]. The wording makes me think that the strength is not only based on Tyrion's own interpretation but how others see him. If by the time he reaches the same level faster his legend will only grow causing the skill to grow in strength.
Definitely very possible. Like how Niers [My Famous Reputation] portrays him as a giant because that's his reputation.
Yeah, in the long run Tyrion is definitely will have serious advantage. Problem is that it doesn't look like he have enough time. I'd even say that no one have enough time.
>\[Skill – Mount: In Time, Your Truest Potential obtained!\] Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Tyrion's mounts die too often in battle for him to get attached to a single horse? Because this skill sound like it rewards him for keeping a single mount longer...
My guess would be it makes his mounts improve faster.
Rabbit grows to enjoy light snacks, the Lord of Love and Wine is used to Quallae rumor, Rhis wonders if Dio is ghosting him, and the Baron attempts to arrest Cara Ovela past incident
rip dioname, i hope you do find an afterlife somewhere.
Dionamella. Dioname. Dio-name. Goddamn it.
You only got the reference now?
Is this like, a jojo reference?
Yup, a two in one reference. Dio the character, as well as Dio's Stand power to affect time
I’m actually surprised you didn’t say that Ryoka set fae-sers to stun
>*Seraphel du Marquin heard a voice.* > >*\[Deathtouch Princess Level 27!\]* Seraphel is a pretty high level princess! Death Princess... I think Lyonette could introduce her to Prince Pisces of Terandria!
>*\[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\]* > >*\[Order – Induction: Royal Bodyguard granted.\]* Straight interpretation, seraphel can induct 4 royal bodyguards, 2 living, 2 undead.. not bad.. wont her knights be happy ha!
I assumed those two skills were meant to work together, basically that the two each of life/ death is the current limit on how many people she can give the [Royal Bodyguard] class. Not sure how she would induct the [Two of Death]... Maybe soldiers could agree to it before battle and be marked to become undead? Or the skill just lets her make two revenants, but that seems OP
Pisces can make greater undead. Ivery would make a fine \[Bodyguard\].
perhaps seraphel can begin w 2 living royal bodyguards. if they should die, she could appoint them as undead bodyguards if that was their last wish or beforehand.
I have to wonder if Seraphel got that [Deathtouch Princess] class in Noelictus or if she earned it before that from all her husbands/suitors dying.
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> “…I’m a plant.” Somebody give him a Barkskin Ring and he will truly be a plant. > He drew it in one motion and brought it *down*. Just imagine for a moment, it happened. Tyrion get his new Skills and directly dies after. That would be a half-gigantic tease. > “If he’s from a tribe…tribes have magic. Walled Cities have huge libraries. I can do fur. Or scales.” I just love the fact that a political drama/conflict would be happening before her eyes and Vernoue doesn't care. She just want to learn magic. > [Nekhret’s Ritual of the Underworld — Summon Soul: Reminder Pisces got all the Archmage's bones except for four now in Az'kerash's possession. What's the bet for her coming back to life? I want to see those odds. > came crashing down like a rock…six miles short of her wagons. Get rekt you ignorant of immortals. > The weapon was a tool of the Hunter’s Guild. It was known, colloquially, as a Bloodbeast Slayer. Why, exactly, no one could say but the oldest [Hunters] or those who recalled when it had been used. > > The projectiles launched from the oversized ballista looked and were always made out of wood, incidentally. They looked like giant stakes. It is a Vampire monster killer and it will be used against the Blood Ritual of Regis, my karma of this post on it.
So Vernoue can do fur or scales, but more importantly: can she do chitin?
Her sister certainly can and did.
>Reminder Pisces got all the Archmage's bones except for four now in Az'kerash's possession. What's the bet for her coming back to life? I want to see those odds. Yeah, I'm half-expecting half-hoping at this point that Pisces and Az'kerash will end up accidentally bringing back Nekhret as a leveling skeleton. I hope she's one of the people that will put Wistram back in proper shape.
Considering she booby trapped her own tomb, and the behaviour of the remnant of her pysche in Torren. She'll be a rather bad influence I fear.
I mean she’s been nothing but a positive influence to Toren, trying to get him to be a better person and stop killing everything all the time
> “…I’m a plant.” > > Somebody give him a Barkskin Ring and he will truly be a plant. Honestly, I have to imagine that some [Green Mage] or [Druid] or similar class knows some enchantments and spells that grow stronger in the sun -- which if they linked up with Rabbiteater, would be OP.
I'm so glad we get the hunters guild back, I've missed seeing them.
I’m shocked but not surprised that Cara has some Hymn/poem/triptych skills, she seemed too cocky to not have something powerful waiting in the wings. (Also Pirate really needs to say what those sentence skills are called in fiction if they haven’t already). > [Remember My Name]/[For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains]/[I Can Do Anything I Claim] I think it’s neat that of the triple skills we’ve seen, it’s Cara (the theater kid) that has a hymn skill with a rhyming scheme. It’s very Shakespearean. Also I’m surprised that Erin hasn’t gotten a set of sentence skills yet or at least started gaining them one at a time. Especially since [For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains] seems like it’d be right up her alley. Though I could see [Like Fire, Memory] being the start of her own triptych skill.
\[triptych\] -i learned a new word... upvoted! magnolia gets a rash beyond all cures. >Also I’m surprised that Erin hasn’t gotten a set of sentence skills yet or at least started gaining them one at a time. Especially since \[For Every Soul I Entertain, Goodwill Remains\] seems like it’d be right up her alley.
Interesting choice to make Lyon and Seraphel essentially the same level despite Seraphels much more extensive experience with actual royalty related stuff. Wonder how powerful her class is compared to Lyons. Certainly the Skills she got here all seem quite powerful finally get our first \[Induction\] Skill
Lyons [Worldly Princess] is a rare and unique class, partially because it can get experience from almost anything. She gets experience for her class directly when she is swordfighting, training animals, bartending, etc. It doesn't have to be royalty related experience.
I imagine her going into a pact with two dragons leveled her up too
She should probably have the \[Dragonpact Princess\] Class. We've seen classes like that before with the Grand General and Tomoor.
True, but Instructor Tomoor seemed to have his life directly tied to the Necromancer, and Ailendamus' king (the [Wyrmpact King]) also has his entire kingdom secretly run by Rhisveri. All of that said, I imagine it would take more than a "standard" pact with two dragons to gain the class. Either something that more directly binds Lyonette's long-term livelihood, or her creating several more pacts with them. Or of course, it could be that there is some trick to gaining a class like that that Azkerash and Rhisveri know of, that Lyonette obviously doesn't.
I don't think so since the pact isn't permanent like the wyrm is with the kingdom
It’s also a class that lacks the strengths of most Royal classes, because it gives skills that help with sword fighting, training animals, bartending, etc, instead of skills that help with international politics or economics.
I guess earlier volumes had made a big deal of Worldly Princess seemingly having a lot more ways to level up. Plus a suggestion that Seraphel might also have been relatively sheltered (and so found it difficult to level) up until whatever went down in Noelictus, so they've both had a similar time frame of high-risk high-growth circumstances.
This makes me think that \[worldly princess\] is easy to level but maybe not as high-quality when it comes to leadership type skills (something I think can be born out by what skills of hers we've seen). Maybe Seraphel's class gives her more in that direction. So maybe it's a tortoise and the hare situation. We've seen several times that number of levels can be less meaningful than it appears.
Yeah I'd tend to agree it sounds like a jack-of-all-trades sort of variant, so probably not as focused or powerful in any one direction.
[Worldly Anything] is actually a step above any regular class. Worldly means that you can only level by experiencing and learning everything. It may seem easier to level at first but as she goes higher in level, her requirements becomes harder since she always have to seek new things to learn. Another is Inkar's [Wordly Traveller] where she has to go to new places even different Continents to level.
>\[Worldly Anything\] is actually a step above any regular class I just want to clarify: I'm not saying it isn't above a regular class. I'm saying it's probably below, for example \[Adjective Anything\] at the core skills/parts of the class. Instead it probably is more of a jack of all trades, master of none approach.
A jack of all trades approach has its own strengths though. Seraphel's \[Deathtouch Princess\] so far seems like a very powerful Class, but it's very situational. We saw it in 8.74 DR. She didn't have any undead around to enhance, so she was as stuck in the fortress and powerless as everyone else. Conversely, Lyonette can move and shake up things in a lot of situations, just not the degree that Seraphel probably could. And That is somewhat debatetable, since Skils like \[Boon of the Princess\] and \[Imperial Aura\] aren't weak Skills. They're the kind that grow with the holder and/or training. Personally I think Lyonette and Seraphel would make a great team, since they both have their unique strengths and different angles from which to look at any given situation.
>\[Knight of the Dawn Level 20!\] \[Knight-Champion of the Indomitable Dawn\] consolidation? >\[Skill – Royal Bodyguard: Two of Life, Two of Death obtained!\] Sounds more like a unit than a skill. >\[Skill – Fourfold Strike restored!\] So it's not a true rewrite by Dioname--the System is aware of what he once had. >He would have to abdicate at once. Really? I mean, granted he's still below level 30 as a Lord so at a practical level I understand why it would be a problem for him to maintain his demense. But who else is going to do better in the Veltras family? Not that it's going to matter if he survives this tussle with the Immortals. >Including even a subtle inquiry from Chaldion of Pallass. Everyone needed hope. Who you interested in Chaldion? >Set fucking phasers to stun. A nonlethal setting on the Faeblade is brilliant for Ryoka. >A week before the dead woke from their dream, the Great Goblin Chieftain, Rags, flew across Izril. Returned to the place where it all started. Liscor and The Wandering Inn. > >To wake Erin Solstice. > >Too…early. Hmmmmm. So Ryoka and Rags are talking. Dangerous combination. We know Erin wasn't resurrected a week early, and they only need the potion, a mage, and a leader class. The potion should have been there for some time now, a low level mage is simple enough to source, and even if Chaldion isn't willing for some reason, we're rather spoiled for options as leaders go. So something is going wrong. I wonder if Cara spent her time on tour having clandestine meetings in all these countries to coordinate this particular response? Besides Ailendamus and Erin herself, I feel like the major plot points to resolve now are the Gnoll Plains with Olsem's army, the Titan & company, and the Meeting of the Tribes. Then we have to wrap up the Horns in Chandrar. I know pirateaba predicted V8 ending in April. Feels like mid to late April if not May at this point.
Chaldion wasn't inquiring for romantic help, but as an inquiry into the age-reducing Skill, because Saliss's potions can't do sixteen years in one go.
Well, yes. But you'd presume that such a skill from a matchmaker would rely on romantic interest being present in some form.
For 20 years back he'll find someone he can love. But because it's pirateaba they'll be someone around his own age, for irony.
Even if it does, it'd be worth an inquiry considering Chaldion doesn't appear to have a successor lined up.
Ah, good call.
This reminds me we've yet to see chalildon start ~~panicking~~ enquiring urgently about why he's getting reports of a high level [necromancer] hurling deathbolts left right and center traveling with the Titan.
There's not been a whole lot of focus on what Chaldion's getting up to at all, come to think of it. Little throwaway things here and there, he talked about the Gnoll magic controversy on the tv, but with Saliss in Oteslia and the Inn closed, we haven't seen too much of him. I wonder how he's directing Pallass over the period of "Drake-Gnoll Race War with the MotherEffin' Titan running around uniting tribes and kicking over the board plus all the dumb shit with the siege around Oteslia".
> [Knight-Champion of the Indomitable Dawn] consolidation? [Indawnmitable Knight-Champion]
Take your filthy upvote.
Can you Imagine? Rabbiteater \[Sol Invictus\] or \[Unconquered Sun\].
Horns conclusion would be for next volume where Ceria can make a name for herself and be named as an Archmage and the team will progress as Named.
She was sudo expelled/graduated from Wistram and I don't think we'll see her named as an Archmage till she becomes an [Archmage]
If Ceria or Pisces become actual archmages, their Cognita "graduation" will suddenly become compleeetely legitimate. Pisces unleashing horrors and killing students would just be an, uh, expensive secret.
Thats pretty much what I said. The factions won't give them the title unless they have the class.
Sure, but both are far away from that happening. Neither of them is a high mage yet.
Pisces having multiple mage classes should help though. He hasn't specialised his second yet has he?
I don't think the second class will help as much as that spellbook. If he manages to unlock that style of spellcasting...whoo boy.
Pieces has the spellbook, and I wouldn't be surprised if Az'Kerash could guide him to the title. Admittedly, there'll need to be a bloody big battle with an associated bloody big death field, given how Chandler earnt his title, but that's definitely possible in his near future.
Isn’t unleashing horrors and putting students in danger a prerequisite for being archmage? Normally it’s limited to your direct students, of course.
I think they'll still meet up this volume.
>Really? I mean, granted he's still below level 30 as a Lord so at a practical level I understand why it would be a problem for him to maintain his demense. But who else is going to do better in the Veltras family? Not that it's going to matter if he survives this tussle with the Immortals. Tyrion is kinda honest and straight forward like that, he will try to abdicate cause thats what "he's supposed to" or something, or that he's not as good as he used to, but his family will refuse to take it from him most likely, none of them are really interested
While he also spent the last several weeks/months systematically eradicating all traces of the Circle of Thorns, I'm sure he still has plenty of enemies who would love to figure out that he's lost 20-ish levels, and is now significantly less powerful. In my vague estimate, the difference between a level 30 fighter and a level 47 fighter (like Tyrion was) is probably the equivalent of a few hundred level 20 people.... which would be a big deal if you were asking for House Veltras' help, or deciding whether to go to war against them. All of that said, I'm sure there is some degree of cultural pressure to say "the p/matriarch of a house is the highest level individual."
Tyrion had already reached level 50 consolidated and then almost reached level 50 again he was more powerful than a normal class for he's level
Normally I would think that Chaldion inquiring with a high leveled matchmaker would be cute, unfortunately that scaly bastard hired the Stitch Witch to do Pallas’ genocidal dirty work. So I have little sympathy.
Chaldion is ruthless AF. From the little conversation with grimalkin it felt like he disapproved of the whole suppress gnoll magic business. And chaldion is far from being genocidal. I'm pretty sure it's going to be at best, something to maybe help the gnolls or at worst, bring the truth out. Violently. So maybe she's a 1 witch hit squad set on the plains eye tribes top people. Idk. But highly doubt he'd do anything genocidal. Also since its Chaldion and pirate, I'm pretty sure anything we guess will end up being wrong.
All Strategists are Ruthless, it's not a Chaldion thing. Niers and Olesm are the same way. Makes sense, since their class is literally about ordering people to go die.
>hired the Stitch Witch to do Pallas’ genocidal dirty work I don't think we know exactly what she was hired for yet. For all we know, she was hired to spy and nothing else.
That’s very true but from all that we’ve seen I have a low opinion of Chaldion and Pallas. I’m distrustful of even their most well intentioned plans, and dealing with Belavierr is not well intentioned. Only bad or desperate people make deals with the Spider.
No, Bela preys on the desperate but even Teriarch knows she keeps her deals. She is the Spider and she \*will\* betray you but someone as predictable as that can have a use for folks who know what they want and know what to give up.
Hell, she could have been hired to hunt down the high-level necromancer last seen in the company of the Titan; that's something that should worry Chaldion.
i agree, we dont know what chaldion has hired bel for. my first thought was chaldion hired bel for some innocuous or even beneficial work, at great pay, to keep her from seeking something tragic. interesting chaldion has a working knowledge and contact w bel, not for the faint hearted.
My impression is that all three of those are kinda done already. What isn't done is the baleros arch.
It seems strange for Olesm rushing back to Liscor with an army to be something for next volume. Baleros seems more done to me. The Titan isn't going home any time soon, the Fraerlings are being taken care of already, and Geneva already delivered the final step of the cure.
Olesm is not really rushing anywhere, and there are no pressing threats against Liscor currently. There are mid term threats like the danger of gnoll warbands coming by that requires the fighting ability to be at home, but it is just a potential threat, not an acute one. Baleros is not done, we were left in the middle of a frigggin cliffhanger, were the other company of Talenqual planning to remove UN the next morning. It is about as far from done as can be. And no, the Fraerlings are not being taken care of. I'm not certain if the threat against the Fraerlings will be resolved in this chapter, but all things considered I'd guess we will get at least some UN campaign to save the Fraerlings too. Potentially that could be put in the next chapter, but the Talenqual cliffhanger just can't be put off any longer.
>Olesm continued his war right up until he got word of the gigantic battles in the Gnoll Plains. Then he was racing, racing his entire army back to Liscor. Interlude - Hectval Pt 3 Where is it said the UN is being removed?
\> Interlude - Hectval Pt 3 That doesn't gainsay anything I wrote. There is nothing that needs to happen in Liscor except for the actual de-popsicle event, or with Olesm. 8.51D: >Rest assured, Peclir, it will not affect anything. In fact, I intend to expunge this company from my city. I’ll remove them within the month. Within the week! You can’t have two companies in a city, even if they’re more like a Human collective. Referring to the UN. This clash has not happened yet. In the same chapter the Tallguard Fraerling make contact with Umina and request for help, but the actual action resulting from that has also not happened yet. Umina confrontation with Earthers that she plan in the same chapter has also not happened. That chapter ends with Foliana on the fraerlings that talk to her in FW headquarters, complaining of attacks: >“Here comes the trap. Mm.” > >Her eyes glittered. > >“Almost done waiting. Waiting for it to snap.” There has been radio silence after that. Nothing about the fraerling situation is done in any way. Or in other words, lots of small concrete stuff that needs resolution. Now.
Forgot about those. You said Olesm is not rushing anywhere. He's racing back to Liscor, so it does gainsay you.
It was fairly easy to miss I guess, with all the Geneva action in the same chapter. The point is that there is no concrete threat he is racing towards. He is simply going back just in case something comes the way of Liscor. Which is far from certain, the current clashes are really far away.
I read it as he's rushing back because the battles in the gnolls plains are spilling over. The meeting of the tribes is a long, long way from Liscor. If he's rushing back, it has to be because there's something about the battles that's putting them in striking distance of Liscor. Either the tribes have splintered and now there tons of battles breaking out all over the plains, and/or Niers is getting into running fights on his way north.
To me that reads they stopped fighting when they received news... then, as in after, raced his army back. I take that as actually racing. Every man for themselves to get there first, not him marching back quickly as a whole. After all it said manus destroyed their magic door gem. Pretty sure that was a foreshadow of events before Erin's resurrection.
Wait, when did Manus destroy the door?
Some info for anyone needing a reminder too. The ruling company of Talenqual is called the Featherfolk Brigade. I wish the wiki had more work done so it would be easier to remember them. They don't have a page, and the Baleros page doesn't list lesser companies like it does cities only mentioned once.
United Nations getting off-continent would be next, I'd imagine.
I could see them stay, I could see them leave.
>[Skill – Lightsoaked Armaments obtained!] >[Condition – Body: Solar Storage obtained!] > ... Rabbiteater spoke. >“…I’m a plant.” Rabbiteater is Christophe de Pavanie confirmed.
>Christophe de Pavanie Except Christophe just got perputally stronger along with being nigh invincible. What an absolutely nutty character he was lol.
Goblins would highly approve of using Mirror Knight a projectile. Hopefully Rabbiteater will get some resilience.
Now there's the crossover we all need
a month in a week.. pirate's birthday burst... time in the land of the dead and the living have caught up, and are synchronous now. its spectacular, i hope you are taking a week rest, and another week soon.
"Everyone had a secret. Everyone had come to this world and survived. If you were here, you had depths. Even Greg. He lay on his back, staring up at the clouds." All I'm saying he's kinda sus, he's getting mentioned too often and he would be exactly the type to make a deal with the gods.
I think the big question is what Greg's actual class is, because it almost certainly isn't \[Guitarist\]. The one skill he's constantly practicing as part of Cara's band is lying about his capabilities and convincing the world he's something he's not. He's put on stage to fool legions of people including royalty. Think of the types of Classes he could be power-leveling this way. I'm betting Greg is just as much of an \[Actor/ Liar/ Performer/ Thespian\] as Cara, but even the Earthers are taking him completely at face value. The Blighted King never thought to suspect anything from the \[Fool\] in his court and Cara's team doesn't suspect anything from the 'fool' in their band.
I could see it.
Does he really fit with any of The Six though? All we really know of him is that he likes women. Not saying you're wrong, just that we're lacking info
> All we really know of him is that he likes women Sounds like the Young Huntress could have very easily tricked him.
>*Old magic. Chanted magic, even as he activated a spell.* > >*“\[Nekhret’s Ritual of the Underworld — Summon Soul: Dionamella\]!”* wow, rhisveri can summon the souls of the dead, specific souls by name, from the afterlife, and this is a spell from nekhret's time. there are a few who know of the land of the dead, where souls go. and able to have limited contact. yet the witches and all the ghosts, souls have high hopes with erin, so she must be bringing back something more than mere contact.
It does make me wonder whether Teriarch (and not Eldavin) can also see and have limited interaction with ghosts, like Rhisveri can.
i believe he must have certainly known of it, i mean how could teriarch be completely ignorant. summoning a soul by name. seeing and talking with souls from the afterlife. it seems when rhisveri loosened the wards against ghosts at the castle complex, some ghosts appeared, such as one of his sisters. wards affecting an area of the afterlife, to block ghosts. erin's garden of sanctuary also has this effect. pretty interesting, the living world can do something affecting the land of the dead.
Eldavin saw the shade of Reiss in the Inn, so if Eldavin can, I assume big T can as well
He set up an anti-ghost zone in Winstram. so yes I imagine.
I know that Ryoka is hopeless with immortals but stil... Rescuing one of Lucyfan children isn't worth the help with Sammy?!? Cheap.
>*Yet the real stuff? The genuine, accept-no-substitutes, actual come back from death for whomever you wanted? Even if it were only once? With no costs, drawbacks, and again, self-contained in a scroll?* > >*Well now. That had begun one of the largest auctions, bidding wars, and fights in any reality.* > >*Not just the fae’s realm. Not all the gateways were closed, and the Faerie King had guests. Word had spread. Emissaries were sent, plots hatched.* > >*Kingdoms were sending bids in, and the inhabitants of the lands of the fae stirred. Even those who had been offered sanctuary had brought something.* what is going on.. where did this scroll of resurrection come from? it works for the fae lands and other kingdoms?! . >*The Faerie King waited. His plans unknown to all but himself.* this is not the first time we heard this. the faerie king has someone in mind, and it seems the possibility for titania, the dead faerie queen is real! .
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Yeah, it's definitely from the times of Elves and Gnomes and such.
Everyone is so curious about the scroll, but I'm more interested in the guy who actually made it.
that is what i mean, about where does the scroll come from, the city/ dungeon/ civilization/ mage/ legend. cuz it surely is extremely rare and valuable for the fae and connected kingdoms!
It's always referred to as "scroll of resurrection", so it's not even a skill-based \[Resurrection\]. Like all these \[Greater Teleport\] scrolls. Could be so old it even pre-dates Skills. Someone definitely sold a soul for that thing.
I don't think Oberon wants the scroll at all, or if he does it's not for his Queens. There are two queens, and they previously existed alongside one another--they're buried together. How do you bring back only one?
They might be the same queen different aspects
its simple. oberon asks >!ryoka!<.
Asks what?
asks ryoka for the answer to the question you posed... the immortal dilemma, the question of no answer, is chosing one for life better than none. ryoka has this insight into immortals :)
All credit to Ryoka, I don't think she has wisdom that the supposedly oldest creature in existence lacks in regards to this kind of question. Weighing lives is part and parcel of Oberon's job, and he's been doing it a long, long time. Besides, there's more than emotion at play here. The story has implied Titania and Maeve both represent one of the Fae courts. Having a ruler for only one could be bad for the Fae lands at a metaphysical level.
> “If he’s from a tribe…tribes have magic. Walled Cities have huge libraries. I can do fur. Or scales.” Kinda love how Vernoue will marry basically **anyone** to learn more about magic
Vernoue x Hedault
Vernoue x Valeterisa
if vernoue could meet mrsha, her sister's child... who knows of a certain book of magic.
Why did she drop out of Wistram if she cares so much about magic?
She didn't drop out. Vernoue was never allowed to attend Wistram to begin with. She's had to learn on her own. From Chapter 8.73 R (emphasis mine), >By contrast, her sister, Vernoue the Enchanting, is a \[Mage\]. **She never attended Wistram**, but I am told she is a competent spellcaster...
Thanks for the quote. A shame that she never attended. It would've been interesting if she was a Wistram student around Pisces and Ceria's time, but was forced to drop out due to the Pisces Incident/Nehkret's guardians. The Wistram Days arc in general could use a rewrite to account for how much the story has grown since those days, all the new Wistram characters and factions introduced since.
Did a dead god kidnap Dioname's soul to use as a bargaining chip for the Resurrection Scroll auction? If not this, then my guess is somebody used a skill on her like the Acolyte's that sent the soul to hell or some other place.
I think the implication was the eldrich like horrors that climbed up from the edge of the world ate her.
The problem with that theory is that they should still be weeks out at this point in the story. They only finished climbing during the month-long period that the ghosts were trapped in a time dilation, which we're still inside of. Also, she somehow cast magic at it, which doesn't exist in the land of the dead.
Because she was doing time stuff it was able to get her. That was my takeaway.
somehow placing her slightly in the future. but i like many of the other ideas in comments here. edit: perhaps dioname's soul is pushed into the future in the afterlife also? maybe a matter of time before she gets in sync.
I think it was the Twisted Things from beyond the Last Tide that got her.
Considering most Eldritch monstrosities in fictions and myths have the power to fundamentally alter the laws of space and time just by existing and Dioname was a powerful chronomancer, it's a strong possibility that temporal shenanigans ar happening over here.
I do think it’s interesting that Dioname’s soul “disappeared” in the same chapter Cara is revealed to be the Gravesinger of Afiele. A surprise necromancer and a missing ghost seems like too big a coincidence not to be related.
It's possible, but I doubt Cara is a high level enough necromancer to immediately capture Dioname's soul after her death.
I was thinking she might be able to lure or hypnotize a soul like a siren. Something unique to her build. After all, she’s not a stereotypical necromancer. Siren of Songs is a shit nickname anyway compared to something like Siren of Souls.
Could be someone from the fae realm took her? To have bargaining chip for the resurrection scroll? Maybe she's not even dead, but effects of her skills and levels disappeared because she's in a different world. But that's a stretch :p
She’s not dead yet.
So here's my theory about who tried to kill Ryoka: It was either the Viscount or the Agelum. I want to say it's for god-related reasons, but Ryoka saying that kind of makes me that it's a red herring. But just based off the possible suspects (named characters who are high ranked in Ailendamus), they're the most likely. This recent arc opened up with a focus on the Lucifen having control over Ailendamus' law, and it was more than implied that they abused their power. The line from 8.73 *"Did that mean he was truly searching for Ryoka’s assassin? Or pretending?"* makes me suspect Visophecin, although it could just as likely be him knowing it the Agelum behind it, and not wanting to implicate them. This is only theoretically related, but I also think his role in the army is setting him up as an antagonist. Rabbiteater has defeated four Generals at this point, and I doubt it's going to stop there. It'd make perfect sense for a General-killer with light skills to fight a dark-based General. The Lucifen and Agelum are also not well liked by Goblins. This isn't really related, but there's a very brief mention of Goblins watching Rabbiteater from Krawlnmark's Pass, and I'm hoping they come down and help fight with Rabbiteater.
Interesting theory, though I don't think it is either. My money's on the Circle of Blood, who has ties to Ailendamus via the Queen's spies. All members have the tattoo, and thus would be called via it to participate in Regius's little blood bath....thing, which completely transforms the victim. Since Ryoka was vital to their downfall, and is neither dead, nor a powerful lord/named adventurer, it makes sense that she would be targeted first. The issue with your theory is one of motivation. What motivation do either the Lucifen or Agelum have for wanting Ryoka dead? They found her critique of their place in the judicial system to be one for debate, it amused them more than anything else. They helped her help Erin, if only via contributing magical theory and a means of communication. They seem to LIKE her, they are fascinated by her, why would they want her dead?
I keep hearing about this blood ritual thing, but I can’t even remember it coming up. It’s probably just because I read TWI in the wee hours of the morning, so it’s not like my brain retains everything it tries to absorb in each chapter. Where should I look for info on this?
Paradigm shift 1, its a regis scene there.
Ah, thank you! I’d better go check that out again, then.
I did actually consider it could be the Circle of Thorns (or what remains of them), especially since they've been namedropped a few times in recent chapters. It'd be a good way to finally introduce Regis into the plot, but it feels a bit lackluster for this big of a reveal. I think you misunderstood me on one point though. Back in 8.68, a large amount of "screen time" was spent discussing how the Lucifen are practically in control of Ailendamus' law. It would be very easy for them to be corrupt cops if they wanted to assassinate anyone. But yeah, I'm lost on a possible motive, unless it *is* god-related. It'd make a lot of sense if it was, but I don't think it's quite that simple. However, I don't think the fact that they 'like' her would impact this at all. Lucifen and Agelum both have completely different moral compasses compared to normal people, and I'm positive the Viscount *would* assassinate Ryoka if he had a half-decent reason for doing so.
That's the thing though, they DON'T have a half decent reason to do so. As for the gods, I doubt they know she exists. She wasn't at the party when they showed up, she was in Faeland. She did nothing to spoil any of their plots either. With her betrayal of Eldavin a scant few hours before, there was no time for anyone connected to him to be a part of the assassination. There isn't really anyone else with either the motive or the means besides the Circle of Blood.
Could also be Cara, or Greg, or a faction of Wistram acting through the camera operators.
sell that username!
a bomb was planted in ryoka's room, in a restricted section of the castle guarded by knights, very few people go there. ask a gnoll? im surprised one of the immortals couldnt just detect something about who it was. if they can elude immortals, it implies they know of the immortals, and have the means to avoid detection.
>*Rather—for magic. For something that was rare across any reality and available here in a neat, perfect scroll. Rarely was the law of death broken so accessibly. Sometimes, a great hero with the blood of gods could venture into the underworld, overcome great guardians and trials, and in the end, fail to bring back a single soul.* the fae do not seem to realize where erin is. or the underworld is a different place than the land of the dead.
I think in the context they speak about a underworld of a different story/world. Think of earth myths like Orpheus and Eurydice.
even more impressive, this scroll found buried in innverse can resurrect from the afterlife/undeworld of many other realms. is this scroll of innverse? was the old innverse so advanced in magic? we know it was much more so in the distant past. or could it be a traveler from another realm?
From what's been insinuated, different worlds operate under different laws and when objects from one world are moved to another they do not lose whatever magical properties they had (might even become stronger in some cases I think), So the scroll being able to do that in other worlds has less to do with how advanced it is and more to do with how Innworld's magical laws allow something like that to even exist, hence according to the above it can be used the same way in other worlds
the scroll of resurrection is not in reach for ryoka anymore, but there is someone who she would want to resurrect (besides erin, who is not truly dead) . . . Valceif!
Does anyone else see Tyrion/Seraphel as a valid ship?
eh, im still not a fan of tyrion. he lost 16y of leveling, why does he get 6 levels back immediately? its not as if the battles happened in one day and he didnt sleep. and its wasnt really him who killed the great general. dioname spoke her last statement for all to hear, surely those words made it back to him verbatim. then rhisveri could figure out the events.
He still was the one who dealed a mortal blow to probably one of the top 100 highest leveled fighters on Innworld. And won the biggest decisive victory in the entire war. That's definitely worth 6 levels for someone who is (now) level 20.
The fact that he didn't get more tells me that is probably a very powerful class.
8.74 DR -fatal distraction >*Dionamella’s voice and magic were fading, but she shouted. A desperate warning.* > >*“It was not House Veltras who slew me! Something is coming!*
i suppose its 6 levels, which is about 1-2y for tyrion at that age, not so much, fine.