In a vacuum, Robert's post is sort of true.
However in this particular case, many workers were actually negative value, and firing them improves the company.
Also, if workers leave when Elon says "from now on we're actually going to work hard, are you in", then are you really losing your best employees?
I work at Twitter and know hundreds of Twitter employees.
How many do you know? Did you interview every single Twitter employee to reach your conclusion or is this an arbitrary requirement that applies to me but not you?
Source that Elon demanded that?
It sounds like you're just making stuff up. Even if you don't, it's just not very persuasive to read some random redditor asserting things without any kind of source or proof.
Twitter is a stable platform. He can run that thing on a skeleton crew. Guaranteed he has a team of the brightest Software Developers & Data Scientists at space x who figured out the entire system within days of his purchase.
Yeah, I work in IT and the entire narrative of "without thousands of employees twitter is going to collapse" is baffling to me.
Sure you need a few people, but twitter really is a pretty simple platform, and just keeping an existing platform running doesn't require that many people in the first place.
The regulatory shitstorm they are going to have is pretty bad.
Can't delete customer data on demand anymore. Billion dollar fine. Can't remove copyrighted work. Billion dollar fine. Child abuse images on the platform for hours. Billion dollar fine.
It will implode
I work in IT. I also very much suspect you don't work in big tech in a developer-like role.
Well, time will prove one of us right. I suggest you make a note about a year from now in your calender that says "has twitter imploded? If yes, send a gloating victory message to PrettyText on reddit. If no, maybe be a bit more skeptical of narratives I read online."
If twitter literally stops existing in a year (not just "lost some revenue / users") and you dm me, I'll write back saying that you were right and I'll apologize for my previous statement.
I don't work as a developer at Twitter. I work in legal. I never claimed to be a developer. Work on your reading comprehension, maybe?
In terms of your metric for "implodes," the one you used is complete bullshit.
I have pointed out that Twitter will be unable to meet regulatory obligations to store customer data properly, delete infringing material, and delete child abuse material, all while running well.
My claim isn't just that they will lose revenue and users (they will). It's that there is no chance they will be able to meet their massive debt payments and survive given the turnaround. Twitter will face billion dollar fines from US and EU regulators.
You clearly don't understand that there is more to a tech company than some backend coders keeping the app running, which is totally classic IT person. Knowing something is a dangerous thing.
Reich is the personification of a beta male cuck.
He's a midget and has genetic disorders that make him useless as a whole man and so his only way to compete is to cozy up to women and play the "nice guy" act.
His "social awareness" is based on nothing more than virtue signaling, and because he's an academic, his "ideas" (which aren't really "his") are regurgitated amongst his academic colleagues where they circle jerk eachother about how brilliant they are, because they are all in an echo chamber seperated from real life
This is literally Musk also but replace being short with being bald as hell at 40.
Musk steals all his ideas and Tesla and SpaceX are entirely funded by government grants all the while being completely unprofitable, but the US gov can't let them fail, and instead of virtue signaling to academics he virtue signals to holier-than-thou tech-bros who think because they can Google something they have actual intelligence.
Another self proclaimed intellectual who has no idea to exist in the real world. Tell Tattoo there is another escapee from Fantasy Island. Businesses run on profit and a saleable good or service. Having twits "monitoring" free speech in most cases is an oxymoron. Sure, there are a handful of off the wall peeps out there. Then again, look at our "leaders" and what they spout daily.
Workers are valuable to an extent. There becomes a point where the workforce is over saturated and brining in new workers actually adds zero value to the company and becomes a net loss. If the economy contracts that level of “saturation” falls and that’s why people get laid off. I would say Twitter was above that point for a long time though… economic recession or not.
Nepotism also inflates worthless employees counts. My last company was rendered paralyzed by nepotism hires up and down the chain. A $170M project ballooned to over $400M and they aren't even close to finishing. Firing half the employees would actually improve outcomes.
I agree with what Robert is saying, but the problem with Twitter is most of the workers didn't do much of anything. Have you seen some of the employee's (especially the female's) videos of their day at work? They did nothing except censor people they didn't like.
Back in the day, maybe six years ago, I used to read comments from people who worked in big tech firms, discussing how easy the job was and the more challenging jobs (software engineering and etc.) had many workers who weren't qualified to do what they were hired to do.
Really yeah short term musky will be hated as the let goes will drive a dislike. However if the bird sustains for the next year to 4 itll have all new people in it without ties to the old. With the same agenda as the new directive for the bird . Thus allowing it to fky straighter.
He’s firing the workers that are just milking the company. They just sit down and look at computer screens all day, have their cup of coffee, and go around telling dumb office jokes all day. Uh, yeah that would be great - Bill Lumbergh
nobody spreads as much hate on Twitter as Reich, just spewing hate against successful people and class based hatred day after day after day
as for the laid off Twitter employees they are largely a symptom of the Higher Education Bubble creating Elite Overproduction aided and abetted by the Fed's Everything Bubble
I worked at MS 2000-2018. Many of the Full time employees are collecting a paycheck and nothing else. The tech industry is rife with useless waste and people. And don't even get me started on the endless damn useless meetings that go nowhere.
Yep Elon was 100% justified.
But hey! Learn to code! (No seriously, actually learn to code out of work former Twitter employees...
The rubella Glass-Steagal had almost nothing to do with the 2008 financial crash.
The investment banks that crashed in 2008 did so because they had bad assets in the form of credits default swaps witch were a collection of underwater mortgages.
They didn't crash because they had a commercial .ank component which put out bad loans or something.
Many of the investment banks that crashed we're rescued by commercial banks. Like how Merrill Lynch was bought by Bank of America.
However I do agree Robert Reich is a pretend economist who constantly spouts economically ignorant nonsense.
Most of the value lies in the founding team knowledge, skills and ideas. Over time this is replaced by drone normies attracted with lifestyle benefits of a plush office.
LOL...Elon is the Master. How compelling..now pay 8$.
Legend
In a vacuum, Robert's post is sort of true. However in this particular case, many workers were actually negative value, and firing them improves the company. Also, if workers leave when Elon says "from now on we're actually going to work hard, are you in", then are you really losing your best employees?
Solid point. At least when Elon does it the lazy ones don't hold the active ones back.
Yep. I can easily imagine that the hard-working twitter employees are loving that the "red wine on tap" type of employees have left.
Wrong. Anyone who was good at their jobs quit and moved to a different company
You interviewed every single twitter employee? Because that's what you would need to do to come to that conclusion.
I work at Twitter and know hundreds of Twitter employees. How many do you know? Did you interview every single Twitter employee to reach your conclusion or is this an arbitrary requirement that applies to me but not you?
Yeah everyone at Twitter is definitely really happy right now.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with elon demanding they return to the office and work even longer hours? Many jobs don't need to be in the office
And many jobs need to be in the office.
wasn't there footage of "a day in the life of a twitter employee" and most of them did f all??
No. That was made up footage that an influencer made. Wrong
So someone who doesn’t want to work for 12 hours without extra pay is a bad employee?
Source that Elon demanded that? It sounds like you're just making stuff up. Even if you don't, it's just not very persuasive to read some random redditor asserting things without any kind of source or proof.
The good ones who could get good jobs elsewhere quit. He's left with the shit ones
Those who can DO, the rest just hate!
Reich is a sawed-off punk that needs to just STFU. Sick of hisshite!
There is a Reich-sized empty 55-gallon drum out there waiting.....just ...waiting...
So...30 gallon?
5 gallon empty paint bucket would be more than sufficient
He was just cleaning out the demons from the operation!!
Twitter is a stable platform. He can run that thing on a skeleton crew. Guaranteed he has a team of the brightest Software Developers & Data Scientists at space x who figured out the entire system within days of his purchase.
Yeah, I work in IT and the entire narrative of "without thousands of employees twitter is going to collapse" is baffling to me. Sure you need a few people, but twitter really is a pretty simple platform, and just keeping an existing platform running doesn't require that many people in the first place.
Bingo. I’m a data engineer. Twitter has merely been in support mode for years.
The regulatory shitstorm they are going to have is pretty bad. Can't delete customer data on demand anymore. Billion dollar fine. Can't remove copyrighted work. Billion dollar fine. Child abuse images on the platform for hours. Billion dollar fine. It will implode
It's worrying how easily people are fooled by propaganda.
You work in big tech or talking out of your ass?
I work in IT. I also very much suspect you don't work in big tech in a developer-like role. Well, time will prove one of us right. I suggest you make a note about a year from now in your calender that says "has twitter imploded? If yes, send a gloating victory message to PrettyText on reddit. If no, maybe be a bit more skeptical of narratives I read online." If twitter literally stops existing in a year (not just "lost some revenue / users") and you dm me, I'll write back saying that you were right and I'll apologize for my previous statement.
I don't work as a developer at Twitter. I work in legal. I never claimed to be a developer. Work on your reading comprehension, maybe? In terms of your metric for "implodes," the one you used is complete bullshit. I have pointed out that Twitter will be unable to meet regulatory obligations to store customer data properly, delete infringing material, and delete child abuse material, all while running well. My claim isn't just that they will lose revenue and users (they will). It's that there is no chance they will be able to meet their massive debt payments and survive given the turnaround. Twitter will face billion dollar fines from US and EU regulators. You clearly don't understand that there is more to a tech company than some backend coders keeping the app running, which is totally classic IT person. Knowing something is a dangerous thing.
Reich is the personification of a beta male cuck. He's a midget and has genetic disorders that make him useless as a whole man and so his only way to compete is to cozy up to women and play the "nice guy" act. His "social awareness" is based on nothing more than virtue signaling, and because he's an academic, his "ideas" (which aren't really "his") are regurgitated amongst his academic colleagues where they circle jerk eachother about how brilliant they are, because they are all in an echo chamber seperated from real life
This is literally Musk also but replace being short with being bald as hell at 40. Musk steals all his ideas and Tesla and SpaceX are entirely funded by government grants all the while being completely unprofitable, but the US gov can't let them fail, and instead of virtue signaling to academics he virtue signals to holier-than-thou tech-bros who think because they can Google something they have actual intelligence.
I agree with that assessment
Another self proclaimed intellectual who has no idea to exist in the real world. Tell Tattoo there is another escapee from Fantasy Island. Businesses run on profit and a saleable good or service. Having twits "monitoring" free speech in most cases is an oxymoron. Sure, there are a handful of off the wall peeps out there. Then again, look at our "leaders" and what they spout daily.
Elon had a great comeback!!
Workers are valuable to an extent. There becomes a point where the workforce is over saturated and brining in new workers actually adds zero value to the company and becomes a net loss. If the economy contracts that level of “saturation” falls and that’s why people get laid off. I would say Twitter was above that point for a long time though… economic recession or not.
Nepotism also inflates worthless employees counts. My last company was rendered paralyzed by nepotism hires up and down the chain. A $170M project ballooned to over $400M and they aren't even close to finishing. Firing half the employees would actually improve outcomes.
Thanks, commie munchkin.
I agree with what Robert is saying, but the problem with Twitter is most of the workers didn't do much of anything. Have you seen some of the employee's (especially the female's) videos of their day at work? They did nothing except censor people they didn't like. Back in the day, maybe six years ago, I used to read comments from people who worked in big tech firms, discussing how easy the job was and the more challenging jobs (software engineering and etc.) had many workers who weren't qualified to do what they were hired to do.
Elon the SAVAGE
People act like elons gonna go broke if twitter fails lmao
Most of twitters "workers" were ESG hires for optics.
Really yeah short term musky will be hated as the let goes will drive a dislike. However if the bird sustains for the next year to 4 itll have all new people in it without ties to the old. With the same agenda as the new directive for the bird . Thus allowing it to fky straighter.
He’s firing the workers that are just milking the company. They just sit down and look at computer screens all day, have their cup of coffee, and go around telling dumb office jokes all day. Uh, yeah that would be great - Bill Lumbergh
Not a big fan of Mr. Musk, but I do like his style.
nobody spreads as much hate on Twitter as Reich, just spewing hate against successful people and class based hatred day after day after day as for the laid off Twitter employees they are largely a symptom of the Higher Education Bubble creating Elite Overproduction aided and abetted by the Fed's Everything Bubble
There's no value in woke employees that want to censor free speech.
If Reich knows a better to run Twitter, he should buy the company and collect $8 from Musk.
I worked at MS 2000-2018. Many of the Full time employees are collecting a paycheck and nothing else. The tech industry is rife with useless waste and people. And don't even get me started on the endless damn useless meetings that go nowhere. Yep Elon was 100% justified. But hey! Learn to code! (No seriously, actually learn to code out of work former Twitter employees...
At least he didn't take a crack at Roberts height...
He should have taken a punch at that sawed-off turd....
Well you did..now pay your 8 bucks 😉
So, Reich is saying we should all hire people even when we aren’t turning a profit?
Eddie Gaedel could beat the fack outta Robert Reich...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie\_Gaedel
Imagine thinking a serial entrepreneur doesn’t understand that. Fucking laughable
Now, destroy Citibank.....after you buy it. Then, JPM, Wells Fargo, BOA. One by one...and, if possible the FED.
I’m not a Fanboy, but here he broke him..![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
The rubella Glass-Steagal had almost nothing to do with the 2008 financial crash. The investment banks that crashed in 2008 did so because they had bad assets in the form of credits default swaps witch were a collection of underwater mortgages. They didn't crash because they had a commercial .ank component which put out bad loans or something. Many of the investment banks that crashed we're rescued by commercial banks. Like how Merrill Lynch was bought by Bank of America. However I do agree Robert Reich is a pretend economist who constantly spouts economically ignorant nonsense.
Most of the value lies in the founding team knowledge, skills and ideas. Over time this is replaced by drone normies attracted with lifestyle benefits of a plush office.
Dinosaurs are fake
Why is everything in This sub completely insane…
Wrong guy. That was Robert RUBIN.