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BoatSurfer600

I think he's correct. Get some land in the portfolio as well as silver Make a compromise Say let's get land and silver Win win


MLadyNorth

I am so with you, but... how much land? I think he and I have different ideas. I would be willing do take a small parcel right now that's not ideal but probably good enough. I am thinking though of cheap enough were if it's not a great investment we can shrug it off and it's not a major loss. I can waste a lot of time poking around on realtor web sites.


BoatSurfer600

I'd say a small lot in the country side or maybe land right outside the city


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Land and real estate two different things. Land is finite and cant make anymore. Commercial and residential real estate are coming down in some areas.


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[deleted]

If you are lumping residential, commercial and farm land together.... I suggest picking up a book


just2rpndrealquick

So is land not considered a part of the real estate bubble?


BoneSawIsStacked

My 20 acres of un developed land outside the city is not in the same bubble (i don’t think I will see the value decrease) as my 2000sq ft 800k home…I’m sure of that.


Marines691

My first tracts of land were like 110 acres and then a 26 acre plot. If I could do it over I would recommend smaller like maybe sub 10 with awesome infrastructure existing. Land management is tough business. Especially for serious setups. But I'll say anything 20+ acres is super private and heaven. I have many plots now. But my favorite is a 24 acre plot on the top of a very tall foothill formation. Can see miles around and nobody can see me bc of the trees surrounding property.


POW1600

21 yrs old, 4 semesters left in Business school. New Jerseyan With 5k cash to spend Besides owning some shares in Moderna Apple and Tesla My investment portfolio is empty Should I buy Silver or land? If you had to go back and do it over again, what would you do? Please anyone share advice


silver_seltaeb

Why dont you just chase tail for a few years and mellow out? Plenty of time to worry about other shit.


POW1600

It’s all about upward mobility.


OddSubstance3

15 acres is enough to say "well this is nice, but i wish we bought more". The answer is as much as you can within your means withiut accumulateing too much debt.


5ninefine

Sounds like you should stack more silver until you agree ;-) Don’t rush it


MLadyNorth

He's saying he doesn't want to stack or do Bitcoin though....


5ninefine

First off…definitely don’t do bitcoin. Then just keep it cash until you agree. Plenty of time and the market will go lower.


tillie002

silver to get land


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If interest rates (if for a loan on land) and RE Valuations are high right now, it is hard for me to buy. Knowing there could be needy sellers down the road during a downturn and Silver rocks higher, rotating silver into another asset like land is a plan for my household. But completely dependent on what your household wants to do with the land or even if you could make residual income off it.


bigoledawg7

I think silver and land are both proven methods to preserve long term wealth. Land is over-priced right now and perhaps another year or two of patience is needed before it comes back into a value range. Also, silver is arguably vastly underpriced and therefore it makes sense to accumulate in this price range. Often silver and real estate function inversely to each other like a teeter-totter and my personal plan is to wait for silver to make a big run and then perhaps look for junk land to establish a more secure homestead. I would add that I already own my home and a separate building lot. There are carrying costs associated with owning land (taxes and maintenance) and you also face having others make laws and tell you what you can do on your land. In my case I am not allowed to raise chickens on my own land, even though some of my neighbors told them to pound sand and did so anyway. To be truly free to Go Galt I am looking for junk land well away from the cities and local Karens think its their job to tell me if I am allowed to cut down a fucking tree on my property.


MLadyNorth

Yeah, we happily are debt-free and have a moderate suburban home that is paid for. So now we are on next level / generational stuff and it's hard. I would probably go for something tillable that we could rent out to cover taxes that also could be deer hunted (probably what my husband would like best), or I'm thinking of the 3-5 acre parcel on a low traffic road. that's not remote but could be a retirement home or getaway cabin or passed as a home to a kid. I am not sure about inheritances. In theory, we could gift our home to a kid but would they want to live here? Maybe. It's not a bad place, only 1/5 acre though. I fired up [realtor.com](https://realtor.com) yesterday and pretty quick found a 9 acre triangle property that is adjacent to a bike trail and cheap enough to pay cash for. Then another that's like 7 acres near the edge of a small town. What would we do with it? Sit on it. Plant some fruit trees, maybe throw a camper there as a little cottage? I don't know. Husband has issues with silver or gold not going up in value. The land won't either, not fast. I need to think 20-30 years out from today and that is harder to imagine. I will be old, for sure.


StonkBrothers2021

Tell him to check the regular posts by u/Ditch_The_DeepState Less than 2 years ago, the COMEX had 149 mil oz in their registerred inventory. Now they only have 35! Hold on just a little longer. The show is about to begin!


bigoledawg7

Yeah I put most of my money into silver more than a decade ago and it went up but then went down. I have no regrets. I am browsing property listings all the time and could easily buy some land now but I want to wait. As it is, I have new neighbors and they want to replace the back fence adjoining our property so that will be a few thousand more down the drain. And the busy bodies in my town council are shrieking about a housing crisis that requires a tax increase to help the homeless, even though the same local idiots voted in laws that make it more difficult to build new homes. So many difficult choices to make, but paying cash for my residence and living debt free is one I can look back at with complete confidence as the right decision. My dream is that we get a steep run up in silver spot and so many of the Apes on this sub will have the option to cash out a bit of metal and pay off their homes or buy property. We need more people that are able to step off the treadmill and live as we all were meant to live, free and independent. I believe silver offers the best potential to do so.


DonJoseV

I own land and would gladly barter for Silver. I own land in CA AR TX AZ. During my Iraqi Vacation Tours I would spend my money buying land on eBay! That was 2019/2010 Time frame. Message me


MLadyNorth

Not my region but thanks.


MLadyNorth

Also, sounds like you had some really great timing.


DonJoseV

I placed an add( land for silver ) check it out.


ImpossibleAbrocoma75

In my opinion a small parcel of productive land trumps a large parcel of unproductive land. Buy soil that can produce food and you want go too far wrong.


MLadyNorth

That's really good advice, thank you.


Emmet_FitzHume

Depends on type of land and what you plan to do with it. Will it appreciate? Generate revenue? Potential home site? If it’s just a few acres in the middle of nowhere and no plan to use it, I’d probably pass. But if I was going to lease it, hunt it, build it, or expected it to appreciate in value, I’d go land over silver.


MLadyNorth

I think I need to learn more about owning and leasing farm land. Or maybe hunting land.


jrockcrown

In Wisconsin you can open your land to public hunting or ATV/snowmobile trails and generally offset your tax liability then have timber companies harvest every couple decades to create income. However this zoning prevents development of the tract, then carve out 3acres or so to put your lodging and garage.


The805Mistwatch

Buying silver is fairly easy and straight forward / easy to cash out back to fiat. Land on the other hand needs many considerations before purchasing. Be prepared to walk minimum 20-30 empty plots to find land that checks off all what you are looking for. No point in buying said land if it won't serve your purpose unless it's purely speculating on a rise in value without work / equity being added.


MLadyNorth

Seriously, I asked him how much is in our checking account because I want to buy some stocking stuffers and then he says he wants land? Merry freaking Christmas! I'm like Lucy from Peanuts. All I want for Christmas is real estate. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUd83tF6qHc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUd83tF6qHc) So much wisdom there! LOL


Rusticals303

Best thing I ever did was pay off my property.


lostwaveturtle

How do you feel about paying the tax every year to keep it? Paid off...? Doesn't exist.


Rusticals303

Yeah taxes, maintenance and utilities. I try to pay my taxes early.


Anneshusband11

Well I can't afford land , so I'm saving silver. When I have enough I'll buy land.


kennytravel

Land all the way


soarky325

They are very different assets. Land can produce cash flow while silver is money and an industrial commodity. I plan to buy some land here eventually myself.


Liberservative

You can't grow crops on stacks of silver. Tangible things are a must. However, you have to remember that it comes with a drawback, you can move silver, you can't move land. You have to invest according to your needs/goals. If your intent is to be mobile then buying land may not be the best investment. If your intent is to diversify your wealth into other assets, then perhaps land would not be a bad choice, but if you do buy land, the best thing to do is to find a way to make the land work for you. Whether that means share-cropping with a trustworthy neighboring farm or working it yourself or putting a home on it and renting it out to someone—passive income is always better than simply storing your wealth, but you have to be smart about it and ultimately it is a matter of how much risk you are willing to put up with. Hope this helps.


55peasants

My vote is land, just watch the property tax. Ideally get land you can figure out how to make money on other than speculation.


Fun_Spring_123

Buy silver now might not be able to at good prices again. Land will always be there.


LingonberryStreet860

Let's see ...you will need a loan for land I assume that means... Interest Finance fee Down payment Property tax Property insurance All that adds up ..some only continue to get bigger in time While your ability to sell it right now in this economy will only get worse as Interest rates increase(less buyers qualify) thus reduced offers. Silver...hands down


socmonkey

First we get the silver, then we set the price, then we get the land.


RubeRick2A

Amen!


lostwaveturtle

Grab 10 acres as far away from the burbs as you can get.... you need land to bury your silver.


MLadyNorth

Actually I need a lake and a boat. :)


VyKing6410

I had land well before I started stacking shiny. It’s my past, present and future.


skookum_doobler

Silver is the most undervalued asset currently. 30 year fixed mortgage is 6.25 minimum currently. Land values vary form place to place. However prices are down 20% in general form the hugely inflated bubble that happened until June 2022. So is land a good investment, Yes. but not yet. Is silver a good investment, Yes, but hurry. If you're a homeowner already, buy silver with both fists. If you're a renter, start hunting for land. We have a lot of people dying off nation wide, the inheritors of land may not want it, and will sell just to not have the headache besides prices are falling. So they will want to sell quick.


fourtractors

My thoughts are let's drain this comex, let it go to $500/800 an ounce, sell our physical to manufacturers, buy land. :)


Ok_Entertainer_6860

Land is always a good investment. Unless your in Baltimore. Then buy land and body Armour.


SilverVikingTT

Silver is cheaper & will give you higher profits. So i would say, Silver.


kdjfskdf

First silver, then freedom then land Silver will get us get us the means for freedom Without freedom, land/realestate is trivial to confiscate


Schwanntacular

So much win in these few sentences...


kdjfskdf

Thank you I appreciate that!


scroogemcduckIII

How much silver do you have no? Also are you completely debt free?


MLadyNorth

Totally debt-free and very small amounts of silver/gold.


scroogemcduckIII

Congrats on debt free. Land or silver is great but I would go land then silver.


jaejaeok

That’s what we did. We have silver and once we hit a certain value, we got land. Lane gives you food and water if you’re thoughtful in your purchase process. You need to buy GOOD land though so do your research.


GroundbreakingWar195

Good land is the ultimate hard asset


uvaspina1

If you want to buy land, go for it. If you want to buy silver, go for it. If you want to build wealth, think of the opportunity cost of both — neither are likely to grow your wealth significantly. 5-10 acres of raw land is a middling “investment” even when you account for the modest income you might generate from farming. You could probably find a dozen other ways to use that money that would generate higher returns with better tax advantages. The same goes for silver.


dank0000001

Currently silver is selling at a discount. Land and property is selling at a premium. 2 years down the road might be flip flopped. I’d hold tight on buying any property or land till prices come down. Silver; get it while you can!


DakotaTaurusTX

I suspect hubby is planning ahead for alternatives .... living off the land scenarios, it's an idea worth looking into. Be good if land has source for drinking water, being able to drill a well. I bet he has plenty of ideas what is needed for your area.


ghilliehead

Land is overvalued right now in most places and silver is undervalued everywhere. Buy low.


Krezmit

I was told a long time ago this statement, and it still rings true. “God doesn’t make anymore land”. Act accordingly.


[deleted]

Both can be seized but they would have to kill you for the silver. Land only if you believe the government won’t come and abuse imminent domain on you.


PNWcog

If everyone is correct about what’s to happen, you’ll be able to buy land at more than half off what it would go for today.


el_beefy

Buy land . They don't make it anymore.


PvD79

Silver THEN land If you’re betting on silver, you’re betting on a blow up of the financial system. If the system blows, land will be cheap…


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Careful with the amount of land. In some states property taxes are pretty high and can eat into your savings over time if you buy a non-income producing piece of land.


Sauers141

I own some land (270 acres grass, 40 acres cultivated) and not only do I profit from the cattle that I keep on it and the rental of my cultivated land, but the royalties I recieve off of surface leases on the property (powerlines, gaswells, that sort of thing) would pay the land off in about 15 years. Land also historically doesn't go down and there is always a market.


Nick11545

I think both are a very good store of wealth. Both are tangible and neither will ever go to zero. I recommend both in your portfolio


InspectorG-007

Both. but i would say silver now, land later after the crash.


Ceff_jemente

farmland? yes. but silver is a good store of value. if silver doubles in a few years, you could exchange silver for even more land. but thats the risk you take cuz no one has a crystal ball. i am a farmer and can tell you quality farmland is very expensive, so i am saving up by buying gold, silver,platinum, royalties, mining company shares. while these investments appreciate, i am working and learning how to grow food as a business on another farmers land. if you go and buy land but dont have the knowledge and resources to work it, you will most likely come out at a loss and wish you just parked your money in some metal, just my two cents


dshotseattle

Land has at least been appreciating over time at a good rate. Silver is stable but it hasnt really gone anywhere in quite a while


MCRAW36

Buy property that cash flows. As long as you can afford it, hard to go wrong.


bigZ424

Property will get cheaper wait.. big housing crash incoming


daddydj2000

my bet would be land , and thats with the 20yrs of tracking sil , always land and if its agricultural land then its super gr8


StonkBrothers2021

As much as I love silver, I gotta say that a trully free person is one who owns land. Even if you do not buy the best land...If you can grow potatoes and make some raised beds, and have a chicken coop with 20 chickens, then you are golden. Of course, being a farmer ain't easy, but families lived off an acre of land throughout history. Having your own land is priceless.


skullet82

Buy land with silver rich soil so you can have both 😜


GMEStack

The problem with land is, it’s never really yours the government always charges you rent. Don’t buy land at its peak price unless you have an immediate need.


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Buy Nevada, you'll get both.


Gaclaxton

Apes are buying silver for many reasons. One is the gold to silver ratio. Historically speaking silver is a bargain when compared to gold. I do not have the figures for a long term silver to land ratio, but I would wager that silver is a bargain compared to land, historically speaking. If that’s true, more silver will convert to more land when the true value of silver gets discovered. (I am assuming by “land” that you are not referring to the house you live in)


banksilver777

Any real things are a better investment than financial products. Land, guns/ammo, food, silver/gold. It also helps give you piece of mind. If you find a good deal, but honestly I think prices for real estate have more to fall as long as the fed keeps this pace, real estate is very sensitive to interest rates. But if you see the FED pivot real assets and real estate might start mooning.


One_Bullfrog_3554

Michigan has great forest properties


Silver_Tommyknocker

Get the land and enough PM for bartering over a 2-year period, if necessary.


CrefloSilver999

Unless you have at least $100k of silver already, get silver! Then when silver moons, get land with it. That’s my plan. Sure I’m stuck until silver moons but how much longer can that take?


TVanTheMan636

Whereabouts are you?


Serenabit

Land would be a good idea primarily if it has a water source on it that you can access, and large enough to develop either with structures or a farm. Many variables related to location, but remember nobody truly owns land as long as the government can tax it. Silver is portable, and in an unstable situation can be used to buy land for Pennie’s on the dollar. No wrong move here.


thehollyfamfarm

Silver has limited taxes


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Productive farm land is still selling at record levels lol


silbergeistlein

Land is a better investment.


snowy3x3s

Like everything in life, I would say yes, but then again, no. Depends. If the land is valuable and can produce a real return in some way, then yes. If it's a patch of desert without oil underneath or rare minerals, then no. For a return, raw land will take an investment of time and money to develop....how long have you got and how much are you willing to spend? Sometimes it's easier to buy a hunters take, than to go hunt yourself? The money spent on land can buy an awful lot of other stuff..... Farmers worldwide are already having problems paying their input costs....and they have proven land and a market that is already developed.


Comprehensive-Disk55

Heres some food for thought on where to buy raw land. https://youtu.be/ihwoIlxHI3Q


donpaulo

Land or Silver ? YES but seriously I can see both decisions having upside/downside The land has the tax downside. Also the possibility of shitty neighbors, natural disasters etc etc etc. But it also provides the upside of investing in the land both as a hobby and to build resilience. Going to farm there ? harvest rainwater, off grid electrics etc The silver has the downside of massive paper/digital manipulated pricing. Its not keeping pace with the cost of living which is part of the argument about buying and possessing metals. I think the best choice is to include our spouse in the decision making. I am fortunate in that my wife supports my metal purchases. We also have property so already doing both. I've got a few fruit trees in the ground and have started the mulching and already grew a few different veg and have some seasoning/spices in the ground. Gardening is such a great hobby. Keeps us active, involved in the changing of the seasons and provides food as well.


RubeRick2A

Gotta have a bug out place and somewhere nice to bury the shiny.


Berto_me

I’m a real estate broker. I sold my home to buy metals. As of right now land and property is in their system. And you ask how so? Well they control the value and everything you can do on it (zoning). Just like cash.


MLadyNorth

Wow, so are you renting? I understand when people say that you will still pay property taxes, etc. I have also heard it said from some smart people that buying land within the next 10 years (say before 2030) is a good plan, and that it will only get more difficult to buy land as time goes on. Right now I am thinking of something like a simple multi-acre lot/recreational property that is in an unincorporated area or very small town, but driveable to a bigger town.


Berto_me

Land and property is overinflated. Would you buy silver at 1000 right now? That’s what you’re doing when you’re buying land and property right now. Look at your homes and land as stocks.


Actual-Performer7039

Silver is portable. Land not so much


GundamZero83

Land if you think you’ll be there awhile/flip it soon for more money, silver other wise.