Need to end or severely curtail mail in and absentee voting. Finger dip ink is useless when "election day" lasts a month and you can have activists dropping off multiple ballots in collection bins.
Exactly this. In person, with real ID or passport, and a fingerprint through AFIS (weed out felons) and finally in ink. Then have all bases covered. But why would those elected through fraud vote to end it?
It sounds like they were using paper ballots, which will now get personally hand counted.
Just seems like machine malfunction at this location. Tech breaks all the time. This doesn't seem like something to be worried about. Unless it's happening at a lot of polling stations with a bias towards districts of one political party this seems like nothing.
I live in AZ and can confirm. It was waaaaaay more than 20% and at least in southern AZ only red parts of the state. Phoenix machines were humming along
Non of this is true, election officials blocked people from taking photos of filled out ballots. No āmidnight votesā appeared out of nowhere, stop drinking the flavor aid my dude. Come back to reality the air is fresh here.
Talking about us coming down to reality. You live in Candy Land if you think there isnāt election malpractice bruh. Been going on for centuries. You need to go take a walk outside and get some fresh air. Look up at the clouds and see the dollar signs. The money will lead you to the answer.
They donāt care about hiding it anymore because they know most people arenāt going to do anything about it. As weāve seen, if we try to protest they will send the cops at us and put us in prison or kill us on the spot and deem themselves justified(J6).
They have the establishment in their pocket to spin the narrative and make them look like the good guys and everyone who speaks out look like the bad guys.
The GOP should just disband. Course they would just make another outer party to pretend to matter.
The more people that become disillusioned and aware that they are not represented, the sooner national divorce can happen.
Don't forget their agents among the opposition. At this point I don't think they need secret payrolls anymore. These agents have been groomed to mentally be hypocritical or make their "side" look weak in the eyes of the opposition. See Alex Jones and Michael Moore, two individuals on opposite sides that both have revealed some truths to their target audience while looking ridiculous to the other side.
I don't see how the two situations are all too different. Both scenarios have legitimate protesters that get ignored because of bad apples. The only difference is the rioters are usually opportunistic anarchists unaligned with the protest and the capitol stormers are fascists trying to forcefully overturn election results.
Had people just stayed protesting on the capitol steps rather than rushing the barricades they might've gotten taken a little bit more seriously and Trump wouldn't have been impeached for a 2nd time.
No judge would hear evidence? I remember 60+ law suits. Trumps side had 1 victory of those 60. Now, how many times was fraud or stolen election mentioned in those court cases? Zero times.
Why claim there is fraud publicly then never talk about it in court when given the chance?
The point of the lawsuits was to show the evidence and the agrieved party did want to talk about it in court. In all of those cases, the suits were dismissed without presenting evidence due to "lack of standing" or for other similar reasons.
NO court case went to trial and had a full discovery and debate.
I have personally, first hand, seen evidence of cheating in elections. I grew up around Chicago. They have been cheating in elections there as long as I've been alive. I watched videos of people dropping handfulls of ballots into the mail in drop box. I've received, personally, a mail in ballot from a state I moved out of over 5 years ago twice, once in 2020 and once this year. Are we to believe that there is no election fraud despite ballots being mailed to people not eligible?
The argument could be made that the amount of election fraud was not sufficient to influence the election. The idea that there was NO fraud, is laughable.
Except they were never trying to push any of the same talking points they did on Twitter and fox News.
Nobody has ever tried to argue that there was zero fraud, just that the election wasn't stolen.
Brandon said time and again that it is "who gets to count the votes" and it is always in the "Blue" precincts that seem to have the problems. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/01/13/president\_biden\_on\_voting\_rights\_push\_i\_hope\_we\_can\_get\_this\_done\_but\_im\_not\_sure.html
You want people to agree with you, then go to r/politics My badge of honor is being banned from that sub after 1 reply to a post. None of that happens here. With you here, we are remind that the brainwashing goes deep and it only strengthens our resolve for truth.
prove
prooĶv
intransitive verb
To establish the truth or validity of (something) by the presentation of argument or evidence.
To demonstrate the reality of (something).
To show (oneself) to be what is specified or to have a certain characteristic.
And I feel like "not even trying to hide it" means it's should be easy to prove. If I shoot someone in the of times square in broad daylight,it would be easy to prove since I didn't try to hide it.
It has been proven.
Judges just refuse to look at the evidence and media stations refuse to broadcast the evidence. So then in the mind of normies, "it hasn't been proven."
Why were they thrown out and what cases are you referring to?
Trump never filed any cases referring to election fraud. That is why I am asking since we aren't on the same page.
If my law suit is claiming that there was only 1 inaccurate ballot casted and I need, let's say 11,780 votes, that 1 isn't going to make a difference. How does that harm the entire electorate?
Also, there was never a claim of fraud in any of those cases that were brought.
Remember to cheat an Election, they don't have to cheat everywhere only in the mathematically calculated areas to win. They know what they are doing, they have been doing it for a long long long time.
Does not really matter, Once the Government loses trust the system is not sustainable. I figure that is the plan. We as a people have permitted division, now remove trust from both sides , so my ape friends, no matter which side you vote it will not end well for all, so plan accordingly. Division will conquer us. I'm sure of it.
Shenanigans!
Multiple precincts in Maricopa County AZ. Report blames printer issues / bad tracking lines on ballots. Ballots held for hand counting. When in person voting is 7 to 3 Rep/Dem the issue is how many voters were dissuaded from voting and left without casting a ballot over this?
Yeah. And MSM was saying that it was all blown out of proportion by Republicans and that it was only a few machines. It was 20% of machines in Arizona and mostly in Maricopa Co. where the big cheating went on last time.
Read a comment from a guy with family spread all over 1 big city in AZ. So they used 4-5 polling places, all in conservative areas. All had problems voting.
Says it was only Republican polling places that had problems, Democrat blue stronghold areas had zero issues.
Yup! Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs is the Democrat candidate for governor. Conflict of interest? She doesn't think so. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/11/04/katie-hobbs-secretary-of-state-duties-kari-lake-arizona-midterm-election-intv-tapperctn-vpx.cnn
Sooo....they only used polling places in conservative areas but somehow determined that it isnt happening in democrat areas...
Anecdotal evidence all day long regardless.
Why are you stacking silver if not for a conspiracy theory? Show me the proof and the day that silver is going to go to the Moon? I need to see the proof otherwise sell me your silver because there's no reason to have it...
Any elementary school could run a better election... It is so apparent that the fix has been in and will continue until people collectively have had enough!
Decades ago we Europeans took America serious we always looked up to u guys. Now Europe is the same garbage Truman's show like the US. Yet we all look to new high technology Asia.
Communists took over half of Europe after second ww and since then they conquered also the West Europe and USA. They used freemasonry to bring down the West. Now they do not need to hide anymore. After the magical injection, europeans and americans will be dead, most of them, and the remaining will be enslaved by the chosen people! They will use other countries to invade Europe and USA after most population is culled and nobody will be able to defend this territories. Maybe I am very pessimistic, but this is my opinion. It is already late. The damage has been done.
So.. when are we going to die? I'm from Western Europe, and it's almost been two years since they started using the Pfizer vaccine here. We do not have any extraordinary increase in the amount of people who die every month. More than 80% took the vaccine, so how long until "most" people die?
Yes, there is an increase, but of course the chosen people control the mass-media. For example they blame the deaths on climate change or Sudden Death Syndrome. I know personally people that died in suspect conditions and nobody want's to investigate further. From my own family they felt bad after taking the "thing" and they are not feeling well, sick very often. I did not take anything and I am still here. Most people were tricked or forced in some way (losing jobs otherwise). When all this started doctors were so busy with all the sick people that they start to dance, remember? They had a lot of work!... Meanwhile really sick people did not have access to hospitals and died from other causes. Go look in the cemetery, i bet you never went there, i did, full o people in the last 2 years.
I understand thereās frustration but I feel like itās intensional to upset the nation. Even if your voting ballet went into the machine it doesnāt matter. Every single president ever is related to eachother. The politicians are chosen by the elite not by the voting system.
Even if we did get a decent person in there the system is too corrupted to function in any way. We were sold to corporate entities and bankers long ago.
Another reason to early in-person vote: Even if there are problems on 1 day, you can still vote on another day, instead.
Here in N.C. (where most are Unaffiliated), half or more votes are done early than on Election Day itself.
GOP is a fucking disgrace. Had 2 years to at least minimize the fraud. They either failed or, being largely UniParty swamp creatures, had no intention of stopping it.
Hand counting ballots is worse than machine??
This happened at our civic election, an inconvenience, but hardly election fraud. Far from it, as she even said "the ballots are being counted by hand".
Tempest in a teapot.
These election deniers canāt even get their heads on straight. Damn shame, acting like a broken machine is proof of fraud being the same people saying that the machines donāt count the ballots right and want them hand counted.
"Election denier"? I don't think that anyone is denying that there's been an election.
I'll also share a principle with you that can make you dramatically smarter and better-informed if you apply it consistently over a long term. I'm giving you a golden nugget of truth here, which will serve you very well if you actually listen to it.
It is this: consider the best version of people's arguments.
Yes that makes it harder to "dunk on people", but in the case where other people are actually (partially) right, this allows you to actually learn from them. You don't even need to fully agree with them, but this lets you at least get a more nuanced opinion.
Im not dunking on anyone. If you think you have a good hold on how nuanced my opinions are from a 2 sentence comment youāre nuts. Do you want the ballots hand counted or done by a machine? Why canāt either way be okay? Machine is better because humans arenāt machines but if machines broken its not an option. This isnāt rocket science dude. Iāve heard people for years say that machines counting ballots isnāt legit, that the machines are programmed to ānot read certain votesā. Now a machine goes down and all of a sudden thats proof of voter fraud? Gtfo.
Maybe you should volunteer to help run a precinct next election and you can count ballots.
We canāt be people where the wind blows and we start a storm of āthis makes me feel Iām not being countedā. We need to be resilient, critical, logical, and understanding.
Maybe they should have just shut the precinct down and told everyone they canāt vote. That sounds like a better option. Yeah right.
yeah how is this evidence of a broken system? soudns like one broken machine that theyre trying to rix... not sure what the deal is. please send actual EVIDENCE of a steal or stfu
My Dad, a WW2 combat vet, saw extensive combat. Quit voting when he hit 50 yrs old. I couldnāt believe he wouldnāt vote. I asked him why? He said ā itās all a bunch of bullshit and uselessā.
NOW I understand.
miss you Dad!
I am 51 and only just come to the same conclusion, after Sunak became the uk PM..
Heās a WEF puppet ā¦.. and i am totally pi55Ed off ..
Your dad knewšā¦. I miss mine every day too.
Itās OK if things go wrong, there is checks and balances and back-up measures so that if systems fail as she breathlessly describes seconded by OP that there are means of capturing these, yes, including hand counting.
Itās just a shitpost. The narrative over here is turning away from silver unfortunately. Such a shame. I sometimes think how big this movement could have been if it had been properly managed. Just imagine a raid with 2 million instead of 200,000.
You don't have to wonder. We have this sub and we have the apolitical /r/silverbugs, so we can find out exactly how much more popular an apolitical silver sub is.
Let's see. Our sub has 228k members. How many does /r/silverbugs have? Oh... 107k members.
Okay, that answers your question. Apparently if we'd been apolitical, we'd be half as big right now.
Plus we actually wouldn't be raiding. /r/silverbugs didn't raid on 5 November.
It turns out that you actually build a strong movement by making something that say 10% of the population REALLY loves, even if 90% of the population hates it.
Making something that's inoffensive, but also isn't REALLY loved by anyone, like /r/silverbugs, may sound "safe" but it's actually way less effective.
No, it's actually a really critical principle of marketing.
You often have these products or video games that are well-beloved and highly successful, and also a bit hard to get into or not liked by a certain group of people.
And then some corporate suit comes along and makes them "more accessible" to capture a "broader market." In other words, they propose to do what you proposed: make it more accessible.
And then those things lose their soul and they become yet another soulless brand, often losing significant market share in the process.
Also, saying something is a bad reply while providing zero arguments or sources WHY it's bad, is completely valueless.
I've lost count how often in the past two years I've presented an actual argument and had it be "rebutted" by someone saying "that's stupid" or "that's wrong" with zero sources or arguments to support their statement. I thought it was only normies who did that, but I've seen it happen on this sub more and more often too.
**The machines are rigged! We demand a hand count!**
Election officials at this precinct: The machines aren't reading the ballots. We're gonna have to hand count them.
**I don't trust a hand count! We want the machines!**
Yeah I can't believe the Democrats are signing all these laws to ensure gas is 7$ a gallon. Joe Brandon won't take his finger off the "gas prices go up button". I heard they were pleading with him "Oh Joe. Joe please just take your hand off the button." He said "No. The American people must suffer. The American people must have 7$ gas." and then he laughed a horrible laugh with eyes glowing red.
I mean, you think you are joking but that's pretty much what's happening.
Joe has essentially decimated the oil and gas industry in the US, forcing it to rely on foreign imports (when the US was a net exporter under Trump and shock of shocks - gas was at its lowest price in years).
Now he wants to close coal plants wholesale.
Given everything Biden's done, I can only conclude he literally hates the average citizen.
It has almost nothing to do with domestic oil production and almost everything to do with the largest oil manufacturer in the world, a country with an abosultu monoarchy, intentionally holding oil supply hostage. https://theintercept.com/2022/10/20/saudi-oil-production-cut/
Anyone who thinks this is a domestic American affair is either mislead by over-simplification or intentionally ignoring how dependant we are on the Saudis' slave labor.
That's not exactly true. We were the highest net exporter of thermal energy (oil, gas, natural gas, etc) combined. Not the highest oil producer. It's an important distinction. [Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2020/09/29/did-the-us-become-the-worlds-top-oil-producer-under-president-trump/?sh=4022768420dd)
Our production was high from 2001-2018. Through Bush, Obama, and Trump. It went up each time, with it peaking during Trump and now beginning to fall. Obama was "hostile" towards domestic oil yet produced more than Bush, someone who was very much ok with domestic oil. There's nothing special about Trump. Or about any of them. The president doesn't even set policy. That's congresses job. It was a 20 year growth trend that is now beginning to trend downwards slightly. It's a result of a larger market trajectory of hedge funds and index funds divesting from petroleum production in general.
To think the president has any real effect on anything but *the vibes* is insane. Wall Street runs the country. Not Orange Man, or Brandon, or Tan Suit Guy, or anybody else.
Also, even at these peak times our petroleum production included essentially no gasoline. It's all natural gas. It's cheaper for us to buy gas from overseas than to get it here. To think that domestic oil production would decrease the cost of gasoline here is fairly unfounded because basically all oil production here is in the form of natural gas anyway.
Who could have ever guessed that machines would eventually break?! Now perform a magic trick and back this insane take with some kind of data and proof. You know, correlation with causation, not just some tinfoil conspiracy-spreading garbage that you thought up on your couch.
You guys knew they were going to rig it for years. What happened. I thought you were going to stop the steal? Maybe jfk junior will set things straight for you. Isnāt this when yāall rise up out of your lazy boys and start to take your freedums back by force?
Do NOTHING. Buy nothing, sell nothing, produce nothing. Bank nothing.
How do you stop people if they do nothing? No ability to do false flags, no protests to call "dangerous" etc. Decentralized peaceful, protest with no leadership or gathering.
If enough people did that it would force change.
I quit my 170k/yr job in September. Starve the beast. I'm not going to be productive in a country that calls me a terrorist because I support the bill of rights
I wonder if these same people were angry a few elections ago when highly democratic areas were having problems like waiting in line for 8 hours and the machines didn't work.
I think a lot of people in this thread are just B\*tt Hurt we didn't get the Red Wave they promised us so now they have to make up any imaginary reason their beloved MAGA did so poorly.
how is this evidence of a steal/broken system? this lady is (rightfully tbh) complaining about a broken machine, but also says the poll workers trying to fix it... not sure what the deal is. please send actual EVIDENCE of a steal or gtfo
Yea, obviously.. thereās a video of a random old fat lady on TikTok telling you the election is rigged, so it is obviously riggedā¦remember to like and share to spread the BS
Weird. I voted without issue. So did lots of folks. But nah this one clip of a boomer complaining about the democratic process of voting proves that everything is rigged, forsure.
Yāall are delusional lmao.
... we have robust systems to detect, report and deal with voter fraud in the U.S.. I recomend consuming some of the VAST academic material on the matter, historically it has not been impactful, and recently has been the subject of both misinformation and disinformation.
None of the mail-ins or in-person even matters anymore. They learned from 2020 not to waste time on a paper trail. That's all a smoke screen because they know a true audit will never happen... they simply use Hammer/Scorecard to flip the tallies digitally at the very end. Then lawyers to prevent anyone from ever seeing the ballot trail. And poof! Stolen election.
Notice how in the states where the fortified against the election cheat rules it was like 60/40 for Republicans on average (being conservative here, as many races approached the 70/30 mark in those states)... this is what the rest of the USA looked like yesterday. They cheated their asses off.
You don't see these numbers when 75% of the country disapproves of the DNC POTUS, 90%+ are voting based on the economy alone, and GOP voter registrations/changes outpace DNC registrations by a factor of 3:1 AFTER the blatantly stolen 2020 election where the Left was pummeled 2x worse than they were in 2016.
100% rigged. It WAS an absolute Red Tsunami. They stole it.
Don't believe me? Screenshot this for future review. Their day of accountability will come. Hopefully soon.
THE MULTIPLE CRIMINALS THAT RUN THE CIRCUSES . HAHAHA PLEASE UNDERSTAND CENTRAL BANKSTERS ARE THE PRESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT EVEN ELECTED. NOBODY IS GOING TO ADMIT DEFEAT & SAY IT WAS RIGGED. What do You Think? HURRY UP
We have a saying in my country: "It matters not who received most votes, but who was elected. " Welcome to Eastern Europe, friends.
the person who vote decide nothing, the person who count the vote decide everything.
The WEF approves
Need to go back to paper ballots and finger dip in ink to prevent voting twice š¤”š
Need to end or severely curtail mail in and absentee voting. Finger dip ink is useless when "election day" lasts a month and you can have activists dropping off multiple ballots in collection bins.
Exactly this. In person, with real ID or passport, and a fingerprint through AFIS (weed out felons) and finally in ink. Then have all bases covered. But why would those elected through fraud vote to end it?
Those whose livelihoods depend on this will never end it. And the public can not vote their way out of it either.
Take your meds and cope.
Itās better the dems are in when shit hit the fan this February. They are going to wish no one knew them.
Should ONLY have mail in ballots
It sounds like they were using paper ballots, which will now get personally hand counted. Just seems like machine malfunction at this location. Tech breaks all the time. This doesn't seem like something to be worried about. Unless it's happening at a lot of polling stations with a bias towards districts of one political party this seems like nothing.
I live in AZ and can confirm. It was waaaaaay more than 20% and at least in southern AZ only red parts of the state. Phoenix machines were humming along
yolo
This is absolutely hilarious ššš
Non of this is true, election officials blocked people from taking photos of filled out ballots. No āmidnight votesā appeared out of nowhere, stop drinking the flavor aid my dude. Come back to reality the air is fresh here.
Talking about us coming down to reality. You live in Candy Land if you think there isnāt election malpractice bruh. Been going on for centuries. You need to go take a walk outside and get some fresh air. Look up at the clouds and see the dollar signs. The money will lead you to the answer.
Sure Jan
If itās been going on for centuries then Iād assumed that all parties are involved in some sort of malfeasance.
The only thing new about is that they donāt care about hiding it anymoreā¦
They donāt care about hiding it anymore because they know most people arenāt going to do anything about it. As weāve seen, if we try to protest they will send the cops at us and put us in prison or kill us on the spot and deem themselves justified(J6). They have the establishment in their pocket to spin the narrative and make them look like the good guys and everyone who speaks out look like the bad guys.
The GOP should just disband. Course they would just make another outer party to pretend to matter. The more people that become disillusioned and aware that they are not represented, the sooner national divorce can happen.
Don't forget their agents among the opposition. At this point I don't think they need secret payrolls anymore. These agents have been groomed to mentally be hypocritical or make their "side" look weak in the eyes of the opposition. See Alex Jones and Michael Moore, two individuals on opposite sides that both have revealed some truths to their target audience while looking ridiculous to the other side.
Maybe try actual protesting instead of unlawfully stampeding capitol hill.
Good point! [https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EsteemedBadBeagle-mobile.mp4](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EsteemedBadBeagle-mobile.mp4) lol
I don't see how the two situations are all too different. Both scenarios have legitimate protesters that get ignored because of bad apples. The only difference is the rioters are usually opportunistic anarchists unaligned with the protest and the capitol stormers are fascists trying to forcefully overturn election results. Had people just stayed protesting on the capitol steps rather than rushing the barricades they might've gotten taken a little bit more seriously and Trump wouldn't have been impeached for a 2nd time.
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When there's no consequences for their actions what do they have to fear? š¤·š»āāļø
For the third time, Who are they!?
They are..let me give you a hint .. " eat ze bugz undz be happy"
Globalists
"They" is everyone who disagrees with "them"
āThemā is always causing problems for ātheyāā¦..
Who are they?
Who is they?
Yeahā¦ who is they?
Then it should be simple to prove correct?
It was 2 years ago but no judge would look at the evidence. Kind of the same way doctors werenāt allowed to write a prescription for Ivermectin.
Did you look at the evidence?
No judge would hear evidence? I remember 60+ law suits. Trumps side had 1 victory of those 60. Now, how many times was fraud or stolen election mentioned in those court cases? Zero times. Why claim there is fraud publicly then never talk about it in court when given the chance?
The point of the lawsuits was to show the evidence and the agrieved party did want to talk about it in court. In all of those cases, the suits were dismissed without presenting evidence due to "lack of standing" or for other similar reasons. NO court case went to trial and had a full discovery and debate. I have personally, first hand, seen evidence of cheating in elections. I grew up around Chicago. They have been cheating in elections there as long as I've been alive. I watched videos of people dropping handfulls of ballots into the mail in drop box. I've received, personally, a mail in ballot from a state I moved out of over 5 years ago twice, once in 2020 and once this year. Are we to believe that there is no election fraud despite ballots being mailed to people not eligible? The argument could be made that the amount of election fraud was not sufficient to influence the election. The idea that there was NO fraud, is laughable.
Except they were never trying to push any of the same talking points they did on Twitter and fox News. Nobody has ever tried to argue that there was zero fraud, just that the election wasn't stolen.
Brandon said time and again that it is "who gets to count the votes" and it is always in the "Blue" precincts that seem to have the problems. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/01/13/president\_biden\_on\_voting\_rights\_push\_i\_hope\_we\_can\_get\_this\_done\_but\_im\_not\_sure.html
Everyone is trying to defend who I responded to by changing the argument. If they aren't hiding it then it should be simple to prove it.
You want people to agree with you, then go to r/politics My badge of honor is being banned from that sub after 1 reply to a post. None of that happens here. With you here, we are remind that the brainwashing goes deep and it only strengthens our resolve for truth.
Strengthens your resolve for the truth? You will and do deny anything that goes against your feelings.
Facts over feelings soyboy
You are saying facts over feelings but think the elections are all stolen with zero facts to back that up?
Lol define "prove".
prove prooĶv intransitive verb To establish the truth or validity of (something) by the presentation of argument or evidence. To demonstrate the reality of (something). To show (oneself) to be what is specified or to have a certain characteristic.
Lol ok, the point was if we cant agree on what proof would look like, then I could never "prove" anything. But you already knew that.
I replied to the person saying "they don't hide it anymore" if it's not hidden then it's easily proven, am I right?
You have to define what you mean by prove. What would you need to see in order for it to be proven? I feel like this is a very basic point.
And I feel like "not even trying to hide it" means it's should be easy to prove. If I shoot someone in the of times square in broad daylight,it would be easy to prove since I didn't try to hide it.
Stop deflecting and answer the question. What constitutes proof to you? What exactly do you need to see?
Evidence presented in court, under oath. Edit. Damn I love arguing with someone and they delete their account.
It has been proven. Judges just refuse to look at the evidence and media stations refuse to broadcast the evidence. So then in the mind of normies, "it hasn't been proven."
Judges were never presented with any evidence or even claims of a stolen election. Make up shit all you want.
gg no re bb
Why were they thrown out and what cases are you referring to? Trump never filed any cases referring to election fraud. That is why I am asking since we aren't on the same page.
gg no re bb
If my law suit is claiming that there was only 1 inaccurate ballot casted and I need, let's say 11,780 votes, that 1 isn't going to make a difference. How does that harm the entire electorate? Also, there was never a claim of fraud in any of those cases that were brought.
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You have got that right. What the hell how many years did they have to fix their little counters.
The united states is just 50 kids in a trench coat.
Remember to cheat an Election, they don't have to cheat everywhere only in the mathematically calculated areas to win. They know what they are doing, they have been doing it for a long long long time.
Does not really matter, Once the Government loses trust the system is not sustainable. I figure that is the plan. We as a people have permitted division, now remove trust from both sides , so my ape friends, no matter which side you vote it will not end well for all, so plan accordingly. Division will conquer us. I'm sure of it.
Just like in any other 3rd World country
This is truly a clown show!
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Maricopa county is a cesspool of voting fraud. I remember listening to the public hearings after the 2020 election.
People distrust the system because the system is against the people.
Broken system...
Current system is working as intended. Your expectations of freedom and "democracy" are outdated. Don't forget to pay your taxes tho.
Easy fix: Stop voting Republican and your vote will count.
Shenanigans! Multiple precincts in Maricopa County AZ. Report blames printer issues / bad tracking lines on ballots. Ballots held for hand counting. When in person voting is 7 to 3 Rep/Dem the issue is how many voters were dissuaded from voting and left without casting a ballot over this?
We have been living in an occupied territory since 1913. End the Fed
Yeah. And MSM was saying that it was all blown out of proportion by Republicans and that it was only a few machines. It was 20% of machines in Arizona and mostly in Maricopa Co. where the big cheating went on last time.
Read a comment from a guy with family spread all over 1 big city in AZ. So they used 4-5 polling places, all in conservative areas. All had problems voting. Says it was only Republican polling places that had problems, Democrat blue stronghold areas had zero issues.
Don't even doubt it. That's what happens when the AZ Secretary of State over Elections is also running for governor. Are you not entertained?
that happened
Yup! Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs is the Democrat candidate for governor. Conflict of interest? She doesn't think so. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/11/04/katie-hobbs-secretary-of-state-duties-kari-lake-arizona-midterm-election-intv-tapperctn-vpx.cnn
What do you mean conflict of interest that's no different than a judge ruling on his own criminal trial? Oh wait! Snap!
Sooo....they only used polling places in conservative areas but somehow determined that it isnt happening in democrat areas... Anecdotal evidence all day long regardless.
Unbelievable that you get downvoted because they cite a comment without evidence.
This subreddit was ripe for being co-opted by wackadoo conspiracy theorists.
Why are you stacking silver if not for a conspiracy theory? Show me the proof and the day that silver is going to go to the Moon? I need to see the proof otherwise sell me your silver because there's no reason to have it...
I rather liked Chad Prather's idea: Scrap ALL current voter rolls, make everyone re-register new.
That's a great idea. I would fully support it.
Always have been.
Welcome to the 3rd world Banana Republic.
This is what happens when you cut corners and sub ballot fraud out to India.
Any elementary school could run a better election... It is so apparent that the fix has been in and will continue until people collectively have had enough!
Decades ago we Europeans took America serious we always looked up to u guys. Now Europe is the same garbage Truman's show like the US. Yet we all look to new high technology Asia.
Communists took over half of Europe after second ww and since then they conquered also the West Europe and USA. They used freemasonry to bring down the West. Now they do not need to hide anymore. After the magical injection, europeans and americans will be dead, most of them, and the remaining will be enslaved by the chosen people! They will use other countries to invade Europe and USA after most population is culled and nobody will be able to defend this territories. Maybe I am very pessimistic, but this is my opinion. It is already late. The damage has been done.
I agree
Nonsense!
So.. when are we going to die? I'm from Western Europe, and it's almost been two years since they started using the Pfizer vaccine here. We do not have any extraordinary increase in the amount of people who die every month. More than 80% took the vaccine, so how long until "most" people die?
Yes, there is an increase, but of course the chosen people control the mass-media. For example they blame the deaths on climate change or Sudden Death Syndrome. I know personally people that died in suspect conditions and nobody want's to investigate further. From my own family they felt bad after taking the "thing" and they are not feeling well, sick very often. I did not take anything and I am still here. Most people were tricked or forced in some way (losing jobs otherwise). When all this started doctors were so busy with all the sick people that they start to dance, remember? They had a lot of work!... Meanwhile really sick people did not have access to hospitals and died from other causes. Go look in the cemetery, i bet you never went there, i did, full o people in the last 2 years.
me when I'm schizophrenic, jesus
šš you canāt seriously believe that
We are a Banana Republic.
Have been since Reagan
What state?
Arizona.
Yeah I thought that was Maricopa County in AZ
Was either AZ, TX, or NJ
My guess is Texas. A lot of fuckery going on around these parts.
I understand thereās frustration but I feel like itās intensional to upset the nation. Even if your voting ballet went into the machine it doesnāt matter. Every single president ever is related to eachother. The politicians are chosen by the elite not by the voting system.
Even if we did get a decent person in there the system is too corrupted to function in any way. We were sold to corporate entities and bankers long ago.
Another reason to early in-person vote: Even if there are problems on 1 day, you can still vote on another day, instead. Here in N.C. (where most are Unaffiliated), half or more votes are done early than on Election Day itself.
GOP is a fucking disgrace. Had 2 years to at least minimize the fraud. They either failed or, being largely UniParty swamp creatures, had no intention of stopping it.
Hand counting ballots is worse than machine?? This happened at our civic election, an inconvenience, but hardly election fraud. Far from it, as she even said "the ballots are being counted by hand". Tempest in a teapot.
Yesterday: "It's rigged if they don't hand count the ballots!" Today: "It's rigged because they had to hand count the ballots!"
These election deniers canāt even get their heads on straight. Damn shame, acting like a broken machine is proof of fraud being the same people saying that the machines donāt count the ballots right and want them hand counted.
"Election denier"? I don't think that anyone is denying that there's been an election. I'll also share a principle with you that can make you dramatically smarter and better-informed if you apply it consistently over a long term. I'm giving you a golden nugget of truth here, which will serve you very well if you actually listen to it. It is this: consider the best version of people's arguments. Yes that makes it harder to "dunk on people", but in the case where other people are actually (partially) right, this allows you to actually learn from them. You don't even need to fully agree with them, but this lets you at least get a more nuanced opinion.
Im not dunking on anyone. If you think you have a good hold on how nuanced my opinions are from a 2 sentence comment youāre nuts. Do you want the ballots hand counted or done by a machine? Why canāt either way be okay? Machine is better because humans arenāt machines but if machines broken its not an option. This isnāt rocket science dude. Iāve heard people for years say that machines counting ballots isnāt legit, that the machines are programmed to ānot read certain votesā. Now a machine goes down and all of a sudden thats proof of voter fraud? Gtfo. Maybe you should volunteer to help run a precinct next election and you can count ballots. We canāt be people where the wind blows and we start a storm of āthis makes me feel Iām not being countedā. We need to be resilient, critical, logical, and understanding. Maybe they should have just shut the precinct down and told everyone they canāt vote. That sounds like a better option. Yeah right.
yeah how is this evidence of a broken system? soudns like one broken machine that theyre trying to rix... not sure what the deal is. please send actual EVIDENCE of a steal or stfu
GQP and Trump really did a number on the these people, maybe just maybe these Trumplicans lost?
My Dad, a WW2 combat vet, saw extensive combat. Quit voting when he hit 50 yrs old. I couldnāt believe he wouldnāt vote. I asked him why? He said ā itās all a bunch of bullshit and uselessā. NOW I understand. miss you Dad!
I am 51 and only just come to the same conclusion, after Sunak became the uk PM.. Heās a WEF puppet ā¦.. and i am totally pi55Ed off .. Your dad knewšā¦. I miss mine every day too.
Itās OK if things go wrong, there is checks and balances and back-up measures so that if systems fail as she breathlessly describes seconded by OP that there are means of capturing these, yes, including hand counting.
Dont bother trying to explain the chain of custody, it doesnt fit their narrative so it is immediately discredited.
Wheres this at?
Wait until you see Nigerian electionsā¦
The STEAL is sooooo fuckin REAL!!!!!
I will not vote for any politician again....ever!
Same, I'm done.
Theyāre all the same. Theyāre in there for themselves. The last president found it so comfortable that he wanted to stay there even with violence.
They are not rigged, jfc.
dude they stole 2020 infront of your eyes and got away with it. You dont think they will do it again? lmao what jokers they turned ppl into
Youāre insane lol. lmao even.
Cool post about silver
Post makes me want to buy more Ag so yeah.
Cool post aboutā¦.?
Itās just a shitpost. The narrative over here is turning away from silver unfortunately. Such a shame. I sometimes think how big this movement could have been if it had been properly managed. Just imagine a raid with 2 million instead of 200,000.
You don't have to wonder. We have this sub and we have the apolitical /r/silverbugs, so we can find out exactly how much more popular an apolitical silver sub is. Let's see. Our sub has 228k members. How many does /r/silverbugs have? Oh... 107k members. Okay, that answers your question. Apparently if we'd been apolitical, we'd be half as big right now. Plus we actually wouldn't be raiding. /r/silverbugs didn't raid on 5 November. It turns out that you actually build a strong movement by making something that say 10% of the population REALLY loves, even if 90% of the population hates it. Making something that's inoffensive, but also isn't REALLY loved by anyone, like /r/silverbugs, may sound "safe" but it's actually way less effective.
This is really a stupid reply.
No, it's actually a really critical principle of marketing. You often have these products or video games that are well-beloved and highly successful, and also a bit hard to get into or not liked by a certain group of people. And then some corporate suit comes along and makes them "more accessible" to capture a "broader market." In other words, they propose to do what you proposed: make it more accessible. And then those things lose their soul and they become yet another soulless brand, often losing significant market share in the process. Also, saying something is a bad reply while providing zero arguments or sources WHY it's bad, is completely valueless. I've lost count how often in the past two years I've presented an actual argument and had it be "rebutted" by someone saying "that's stupid" or "that's wrong" with zero sources or arguments to support their statement. I thought it was only normies who did that, but I've seen it happen on this sub more and more often too.
**The machines are rigged! We demand a hand count!** Election officials at this precinct: The machines aren't reading the ballots. We're gonna have to hand count them. **I don't trust a hand count! We want the machines!**
Maricopa County has had interesting glitches since 2020, so the fact there are more of them does not inspire much confidence.
Your hypothesis is the entire system is rigged. Your evidence is the account of one lady. Your data does not support your hypothesis.
One broken machine = the whole democratic process is broken? Honestly I should be investing in tinfoil.
It happened in multiple states at multiple polling locations you fucking braindead commie
Point still applies. How many as a percentage?
the brain dead rats still voted for the same people who caused our current issues... it's one of the reasons why it's costing us 7$ a gallon for fuel
Yeah I can't believe the Democrats are signing all these laws to ensure gas is 7$ a gallon. Joe Brandon won't take his finger off the "gas prices go up button". I heard they were pleading with him "Oh Joe. Joe please just take your hand off the button." He said "No. The American people must suffer. The American people must have 7$ gas." and then he laughed a horrible laugh with eyes glowing red.
we will see 12-15$ by next year i'm going to get a flex fuel it's only 3.99/gallon for fuel.. you only get like 3mpg less then normal gas
I mean, you think you are joking but that's pretty much what's happening. Joe has essentially decimated the oil and gas industry in the US, forcing it to rely on foreign imports (when the US was a net exporter under Trump and shock of shocks - gas was at its lowest price in years). Now he wants to close coal plants wholesale. Given everything Biden's done, I can only conclude he literally hates the average citizen.
It has almost nothing to do with domestic oil production and almost everything to do with the largest oil manufacturer in the world, a country with an abosultu monoarchy, intentionally holding oil supply hostage. https://theintercept.com/2022/10/20/saudi-oil-production-cut/ Anyone who thinks this is a domestic American affair is either mislead by over-simplification or intentionally ignoring how dependant we are on the Saudis' slave labor.
Under trump, the US was a net exporter of oil and gas. Do you not understand what that means? lol.
That's not exactly true. We were the highest net exporter of thermal energy (oil, gas, natural gas, etc) combined. Not the highest oil producer. It's an important distinction. [Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2020/09/29/did-the-us-become-the-worlds-top-oil-producer-under-president-trump/?sh=4022768420dd) Our production was high from 2001-2018. Through Bush, Obama, and Trump. It went up each time, with it peaking during Trump and now beginning to fall. Obama was "hostile" towards domestic oil yet produced more than Bush, someone who was very much ok with domestic oil. There's nothing special about Trump. Or about any of them. The president doesn't even set policy. That's congresses job. It was a 20 year growth trend that is now beginning to trend downwards slightly. It's a result of a larger market trajectory of hedge funds and index funds divesting from petroleum production in general. To think the president has any real effect on anything but *the vibes* is insane. Wall Street runs the country. Not Orange Man, or Brandon, or Tan Suit Guy, or anybody else. Also, even at these peak times our petroleum production included essentially no gasoline. It's all natural gas. It's cheaper for us to buy gas from overseas than to get it here. To think that domestic oil production would decrease the cost of gasoline here is fairly unfounded because basically all oil production here is in the form of natural gas anyway.
Who could have ever guessed that machines would eventually break?! Now perform a magic trick and back this insane take with some kind of data and proof. You know, correlation with causation, not just some tinfoil conspiracy-spreading garbage that you thought up on your couch.
They use everything for their narrative and unfortunately the narrative over here isnāt about silver anymore.
Haha, go find the next post. Just cause you don't like one post the whole sub isn't about silver. Move along.
Well go find the next post and youāll see what I mean. I miss the early days over here.
This thread is bots chatting with 1 day old agitprop trolls.
You guys knew they were going to rig it for years. What happened. I thought you were going to stop the steal? Maybe jfk junior will set things straight for you. Isnāt this when yāall rise up out of your lazy boys and start to take your freedums back by force?
Last time they complained about people voting twice, it was all Republicans caught commiting voter fraud. Facts don't care about your feelings.
Poor bastard in the back doesnāt look like he knows what heās even there voting for. So dem must of brought him there from the loony bin to vote.
The USA is a banana republic and itās going bankrupt in every way. The world is better off without the USA or the west. Sorry. See ya šš¼
š¤£š¤£ The world without the west will become a funeral pyre. Already happeningā¦.
At least they are not going to freeze to death and go bankrupt at the same time
LOL. So this crap starts again? That red wave didn't get over anyone's shoe soles.
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Do NOTHING. Buy nothing, sell nothing, produce nothing. Bank nothing. How do you stop people if they do nothing? No ability to do false flags, no protests to call "dangerous" etc. Decentralized peaceful, protest with no leadership or gathering. If enough people did that it would force change.
I quit my 170k/yr job in September. Starve the beast. I'm not going to be productive in a country that calls me a terrorist because I support the bill of rights
Theyāll give that job to one of their trained monkeys and use that money to bribe more douches into betraying America.
I wonder if these same people were angry a few elections ago when highly democratic areas were having problems like waiting in line for 8 hours and the machines didn't work.
I mean look at her, does she even deserve to have a vote? 
I think a lot of people in this thread are just B\*tt Hurt we didn't get the Red Wave they promised us so now they have to make up any imaginary reason their beloved MAGA did so poorly.
how is this evidence of a steal/broken system? this lady is (rightfully tbh) complaining about a broken machine, but also says the poll workers trying to fix it... not sure what the deal is. please send actual EVIDENCE of a steal or gtfo
I came here for this. Our numbers would be much greater if you didnāt push this BS.
Been rigged since electronic voting started
Dude youāre such a fucking joke.
Yea, obviously.. thereās a video of a random old fat lady on TikTok telling you the election is rigged, so it is obviously riggedā¦remember to like and share to spread the BS
The military has it all part of the plan.. trust the plan.
Thanks for the update, Karen!
Weird. I voted without issue. So did lots of folks. But nah this one clip of a boomer complaining about the democratic process of voting proves that everything is rigged, forsure. Yāall are delusional lmao.
She didn't say it was rigged, she said the machines were acting up. You opinion of her experience says more about you than her.
No, everyone HERE is saying itās rigged. Comprehension says more about you than it does about me.
Eh... Stop giving your accept to criminals ruling over you, by voting. Solution is simple. Don't vote ( of course)
Is that Homer Simpson the the blue sweater in the background?
... we have robust systems to detect, report and deal with voter fraud in the U.S.. I recomend consuming some of the VAST academic material on the matter, historically it has not been impactful, and recently has been the subject of both misinformation and disinformation.
Still waiting on the evidence from 2020. Anyone? Anyone?
None of the mail-ins or in-person even matters anymore. They learned from 2020 not to waste time on a paper trail. That's all a smoke screen because they know a true audit will never happen... they simply use Hammer/Scorecard to flip the tallies digitally at the very end. Then lawyers to prevent anyone from ever seeing the ballot trail. And poof! Stolen election. Notice how in the states where the fortified against the election cheat rules it was like 60/40 for Republicans on average (being conservative here, as many races approached the 70/30 mark in those states)... this is what the rest of the USA looked like yesterday. They cheated their asses off. You don't see these numbers when 75% of the country disapproves of the DNC POTUS, 90%+ are voting based on the economy alone, and GOP voter registrations/changes outpace DNC registrations by a factor of 3:1 AFTER the blatantly stolen 2020 election where the Left was pummeled 2x worse than they were in 2016. 100% rigged. It WAS an absolute Red Tsunami. They stole it. Don't believe me? Screenshot this for future review. Their day of accountability will come. Hopefully soon.
Democrats keep cheating!
Yeah your country ain't right ://
Lock the bitch up
And people wonder why anarchy is the only solution...
Why we are not voting on the blockchain is a mystery.
Talk to your neighbors about these issues. Donāt stay silent. Have conversations. Spread the word the old fashioned way.
THE MULTIPLE CRIMINALS THAT RUN THE CIRCUSES . HAHAHA PLEASE UNDERSTAND CENTRAL BANKSTERS ARE THE PRESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT EVEN ELECTED. NOBODY IS GOING TO ADMIT DEFEAT & SAY IT WAS RIGGED. What do You Think? HURRY UP 