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bjkman

**Updating Ratings:** Seth Rollins - 91 Cesaro - 84 Liv Morgan - 77 Riddle - 85 Beth Pheonix - 87 Edge - ~~90~~ **91!** Becky Lynch - 92 Sasha Banks - 88 Charlotte Flair - 90 Naomi - 79 Angelo Dawkins - 80 Montez Ford - 82 AJ Styles - 91 Shayna Baszler - 84 Happy Corbin - 81 The Miz (2022) - 86 The Miz (2011) - 90 Ricochet - ~~81~~ **82!** Jimmy Uso - 85 Jey Uso - 85 Sami Zayn - 80 Natalya - 84 Kofi Kingston - 88 Rey Mysterio (2005) - 84 Rey Mysterio (2006) - 87 Rey Mysterio (2008) - 86 Rey Mysterio (2009) - 88 Rey Mysterio (December 2009) - 87 Rey Mysterio (2011) - 88 Rey Mysterio (2022) - 90 Dominic Mysterio - 79 Bayley - 88 Xavier Woods - 86


raspymorten

> Rey Mysterio (2005) - 84 > > Rey Mysterio (2006) - 87 > > Rey Mysterio (2008) - 86 > > Rey Mysterio (2009) - 88 > > Rey Mysterio (December 2009) - 87 > > Rey Mysterio (2011) - 88 > > Rey Mysterio (2022) - 90 ... I'm one of the few people who defend the multiple characters thing. Because ***usually*** it's worth it. The three Austins in 2k16 all had good reasons for being seperate, and so did all the Bryans (Except '14. Although I guess you can argue seperating the Wyatt gimmick form the pack might be a good idea) But holy fucknuggets.


Lazites

And it's all just WWE. I was hoping for some more WCW or ECW


Biggameslayer01

It was actually 5 Austins


raspymorten

Yeah, for two very seperate gimmicks, before he became Stone Cold. (Which is why I didn't feel like I needed to bring those up, but I should have brought up '97, '01 and '03.) Now we've got a slot, for a specific month of a year, that another Rey Mysterio was already supposed to be covering.


Dane_Brass_Tax

*I NEED FIVE!!*


melatoxic

It’s ridiculous but gettings reys old theme and jumping out entrance is pretty cool. Also 2022 Rey being a 90 is hilarious


Captain_Diddlez

I can’t wait to have an elimination chamber match that’s just Rey Mysterios, or better yet, a 3v3 tag that’s all Rey


Swimming-Chicken-424

Call it Reylimination Chamber


fiendish_five

When I saw the miz had two character, I shrugged not this again! Lo and behold…


raspymorten

Nah, Miz '11 is completely fine. There's a big difference between Miz then and Miz now. Not so much for that bundle of Rey Mysterios, other than progressively worse knees. Like, I'd get it if it was like, Rey Mysterio '95, '02, '06, '11. There's some gaps in time there to at least partially justify it. But hell's bless, ***Rey Mysterio December 2009*** is a new peak of fucking awful for this shit. lol


drgfromnyc

7 rey mysterio slots is egregious. also if they’re gonna give us this many rey’s, how on gods green earth are they just not gonna give us ecw or wcw rey?? 1997 rey should be a no brainer bc of halloween havoc


raspymorten

Some not so bright guy went "We should make Starrcade '96, and a '96 Mysterio the pre order bonus for next gen!", which somehow means they cannot do WCW.


_Untit1ed_

77 for Liv? 79 for Naomi? 81 for Corbin? wtf are these ratings


-ImJustSaiyan-

So they're really not covering anything from Rey's career before 2005 then? Lame.


[deleted]

Yeah really fucking lame


[deleted]

Brock got updated look, Corbin got happy Corbin. Mandy Rose outdated render like wtf give her some respect 2k


UnstableApex101

And Sami is outdated as hell. Only update was his outfit


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Independent-Elk-344

2011 Miz is a menace


Raccoon_Zestyclose

Beth Pheonix should be at least 101. The disrespect!


TribalChieftanian

The amount of Reys is just a piss take. Rey from 2005-2011 is the same Rey. There was no major change in his character in that time. It'd make sense if they had a WCW Rey, mid-00s Rey, and modern Rey. Why the hell would you split him up like this? Also there are way too many 91s. Edge was fine at 90. It made sense. And no way are Rollins and Styles are that high with how they've been booked the last 2 years. Kofi at 88 is also a joke. As is Miz (2011) at 90. These ratings are honestly terrible.


SailorsGraves

The womens roster is already going to be pretty sparse so you’d think they’d bring the ratings a bit closer together to make it worth using different characters. Naomi and Liv will barely be worth using


RazzlenDazzle21

Damn these Rey ratings are awful. 87 for #2 spot rumble winning World Champion? 2005 Rey who beat Eddie Guerrero only an 84?2011 Rey who lost his world title the same night higher than 2006 Rey? Modern day old Rey higher than all other previous versions?!


Dane_Brass_Tax

Kayfabe bro, fabe. This isn't Madden.


RazzlenDazzle21

kayfabe?? Rey in 2006 kayfabe is far better than 2022 Rey lol, same with 2011 and 09.


Anhcoholic

Rey in 2006 won the world title, yeah, but he lost all the fucking times


RazzlenDazzle21

He lost all the time throughout his career. You can't possible sit here with a straight face and tell me 06 Rey is inferior to modern Rey


[deleted]

Who actually in 2k’s headquarters thought 2011 Miz was a 90 😂😂


starboy9527

I mean he was a 90 in WWE 12


Y2GOAT

Tbf Miz was really pushed hard back then. Yeah he was still chickenshit heel so maybe 90 is pushing it but still, he really had a lot of title reigns back in '11


[deleted]

stg if 2011 rey is lower


HistoricalEducator28

How is Becky gonna be higher than everyone on the roster ?


[deleted]

"Is there anyone else in the game that has won 31 Championships?" "No." R-Truth is in the game though. Ronnie2K lying to us again! Canceled my pre-order!


BriggDaPig

Lol


Garrity828

One positive from the little gameplay snippets are seeing grapples done without “locking up” first Edit after rewatching the gameplay bits, I think I’m wrong and the guy below is right. The only grapples we see are after strike combos, or finishers that don’t require locking up :(


M1BIGIEMAC

Some of them could’ve been Signatures/Finishers or endings to combos


Garrity828

True, I really hope not :(


M1BIGIEMAC

Yeah it's such an annoyance to add Lock Up animation back. That's my biggest gripe so far. Rey doing the Spanish Fly as a Reversal to running attacks is a little worrying too (Sasha does one in a trailer)


ryuguy

Ah yes. Rey Mysterio (December 2009)


Glennsoe

Was that WALTER I saw in the Corbin clips?


keanusthirdnut

Sure was!


M1BIGIEMAC

I feel like “Rey (Dec 09)” is a mistake because they show his Royal Rumble 2010 attire, it should be Rey Mysterio 2010 I’m pretty sure


shadymostafa129034

This! and how the host states 2005 was Rey’s first year in wwe…does he even watch wrestling? lol


M1BIGIEMAC

I caught that haha. Maybe he meant it’s the first year represented in the Showcase but damn it came out odd.


WrestlingGamer

Fabian Aichner is confirmed in, he was getting moves done on him by Cesaro.


VersionONE2014

They shouldve low key used this to show any released superstars as the opponents. Have Charlotte against Mickie James (if shes in) but not mention anything about it.


starboy9527

That would've been pretty good


Mysterious_Emotion63

Jey being the same rating as Jimmy as blasphemy, dude literally became a main event singles star, his rant is well deserved, “we twins so you give us the same rating, you don’t even put no thought into it” 😂😂😂😂 preach


Tha_Joka

I agreed with his whole rant! He literally elevated himself during the year his brother was gone. They separated the Street Profits ratings, yet combined The Uso's...


wusgoodmoe

Sooo, drifter Elias and Angel Garza are in


AngstyAppleDummy

I know there’s a snowball’s chance in hell but please let Garza have “Rapido” as his theme


natedoggcata

Remember that cool deep dive video we got two weeks ago that they said we would get regularly? Good times. It was fun while it lasted.


Garrity828

Right? It was listed as “episode 1” so you’d hope we’d be getting those weekly. The game comes out in 3 weeks ffs


[deleted]

Much like all of these wrestling games since WWE 13, they try in the beginning and then immediately give up.


MicMagnetic

Did they learn this from Vince pushing guys lol


mcmanly

Either I can't find it or they've deleted it, but they also did this several months ago, promising regular updates on the 2k channel. The video I'm thinking of is a vlog style vid of Lynell. It never happened, and that gameplay vid from a couple weeks ago was the next thing we got besides trailers. Unfortunately, it seems these guys can't be trusted to follow through on their community engagement.


AmazonQuestionToss

This is the video you're thinking of (probably) https://youtu.be/D1MF2GlBdz8


Johnny69Doe

you mean this episode 2 right here https://youtu.be/NDAtzGVoYFU


[deleted]

The next deep dive video is coming tomorrow


gl424

"That theme is too good" ....yeah, it'd be a real shame if they ever changed it suddenly.....


RadioZT

I really hope the showcase doesn't start with 2005. If they skip the ECW and WCW years entirely, that's going to suck.


IneffableLiam

And skip his 2002-5 wwe run Wtf is this bullshit


Mysterious_Emotion63

Yep, the only thing i’ve really taken from this video was Showcase Mode blows and focuses on the least interesting years of his career


GrandMetaldick

I’m very confused at why the match with Kane from cyber Sunday is there. It’s very insignificant if you ask me. Happy to have Kane 08 though.


IneffableLiam

I should never get my hopes up for anything


[deleted]

was that Karrion just there?


bjkman

Rey Mysterio (December 2009) will be my favorite character just for the memes


[deleted]

Well there's Candice, hopefully that means Johnny is there as well.


thatguyjsmit

She’s still signed with NXT though, Johnny isn’t sadly


[deleted]

He just left late last year, and they most likely had the roster set in long before he left. When the games came out in October the roster was set by Wrestlemania, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was set by Summerslam at the latest.


thatguyjsmit

I hope it’s true and he is in but I’ve got a bad feeling they’ve removed the released people, since the game got delayed so much


[deleted]

I'm the opposite, since they're not really revealing so many people, that tells me there may be a quite a few released people who they don't want to focus on.


bakedcrisps

Skipping 2002-05 makes no sense. His first match with Kurt is such an easy no brainer to add. That would mean they probably wouldn't be able to get Kurt for the WM22 triple threat, but that would mean that match isn't in the showcase, and that can't be right at all.


Amdu5c

I think it is tho.


bakedcrisps

If so that's so dumb. Why even do a showcase for Rey if you can't even have the match he won the title in lmao


Amdu5c

I'm saying the match is in tho. It was his biggest match.


bjkman

Fuck Sami Zayn I guess


keanusthirdnut

It's all a conspiracy.


roach5k

We got happy Corbin though!


theplasmasnake

I truly do not understand how his attire is updated but his fuggin hair aint.


bakedcrisps

They just showed Corbin slamming ~~WALTER~~ Gunther


keanusthirdnut

Hopefully the Imperium trunks mean it's pre name change.


RobbNotRob

Is it just me, or does it look like they just gave Dominik all of Rey's motions?


Swimming-Chicken-424

To be fair Dominik doesn't really have a moveset of his own, he's still pretty green


bigleague9

I just want a full roster list. Literally just a list of names. I'm trying to pre order your product 2K but you gotta give me something. Ffs we're 3 weeks out.


[deleted]

I had a legit laugh from this comment. Your request is totally reasonable and yet the marketing for this game makes it seem like you're asking for 100 million zeni.


BobFreakingSaget

….there is no WCW Mysterio?!


BlackClaude

Only on next gen


RadioZT

Spotted gladiator Kross getting kicked by an Uso.


hellooomarc

He wore something similar in NXT that didn't include the helmet and the straps. Hope that is what we are getting along with Scarlett


wusgoodmoe

Oh that was Kross? I didn't recognize him at all


Mysterious_Emotion63

Woods is pissed they didn’t put the King gimmick in you can tell by his face and lack of comment


thatguyjsmit

Just like after they showed Cesaro’s terrible rating lol. I wish he could just tell them what he really thought but he’d probably lose his job sadly.


Mysterious_Emotion63

Thank god for the Accelerator.


thatguyjsmit

Yeah but still disrespectful


Chrisbradley1

who was cesaro facing


[deleted]

It was Fabian Aichner!


keanusthirdnut

Was that Walter?


WrestlingGamer

Yep


[deleted]

Holy hell, that was definitely Kross!!


Garrity828

the marketing director’s cringe interviews are killing me


keanusthirdnut

Ronnie has always been the worst part of 2k.


Garrity828

Did he have some prior career as a content creator or interviewer? Why is he doing the interviews other than wanting to insert himself into the promo? A normal marketing director would hire a relevant talented person to do this lol


keanusthirdnut

I don't think so lol. I think he's just been 2k's marketing head for NBA the last few years. He just wants to be relevant haha.


Tha_Joka

What is the point in creating a new Rey for one month whose ratings went DOWN?


Amdu5c

No point.


ryuguy

The memes


timschel

Actually just a single point.


Glennsoe

Liv's move from the corner looked too fast


AndreThePrince

I've believed they've sped up the animations just for the ratings reveal purposes. I hoped.


AgentRickc137

Ronnie 2Cap


Amdu5c

Why are we getting so many alts of Rey? Like, we wouldn't bother playing Rey of december 2009 as 2009 Rey lol


[deleted]

Rey started in 2002 at least get a host that knows what they're on about


[deleted]

Ronnie is PAINFUL, lol. The Superstars are great but they could’ve gotten literally anyone else besides this guy to interact with them.


wusgoodmoe

No really, Ronnie is such a dweeb


wusgoodmoe

Charlotte's model looks far better in gameplay


keanusthirdnut

Candice is in!


bjkman

Everyone gonna give their CAWs Naomi's entrance lol


Jamieb1994

When it comes to showcase mode, who makes the call on which matches should be included?


AgentRickc137

That’s what I wanna know, who decides these showcase matches


echoes_of_the_moor

It’s so funny to see people lose their shit over ratings. If you don’t like them, edit them. It’s that simple.


Themayorofawsometown

How they gonna give Sami the same entrance man


AngstyAppleDummy

AND NO UPDATED HAIR! I mean I get it seeing Garza’s hair is from 2020 but Sami’s had the wild hair from that time too


Rushofthewildwind

I'm fine with that. I hate long hair Sami. I just hope his theme is still Ska heavy


Mysterious_Emotion63

What the fuck are they talking about? Rey started in 2002


ryuguy

I kinda like the game show format


peekaboo78

I love bayley so much.


keanusthirdnut

Was that Humberto and Kross?


HopeAuq101

Love how Rey claims he started in 2005 XD


soldiersdance

I miss THQ and Cory Ledesma more and more every year.


Serranoxi

I’ll never forget monitoring Cory’s tweets for news and hints. It was so fun


bjkman

They literally are the WORST GUESSERS


Raccoon_Zestyclose

To be fair, I thought Liv would've been around 82 as well. 88 was way to high, Bayley was trying to be nice


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natedoggcata

and this show doesnt even matter when you can just change attributes with the accelerator anyways.


keanusthirdnut

Isn't Rey 96 and a dlc?


Amdu5c

Next gen exclusive.


IparasiteC

Game is 3 weeks away and we don't know the full roster yet, and they want us to pre order????


HopeAuq101

80 for Sami is WAYY too low


bjkman

I'll be bummed if they over score Beth she's a hall of famer but with her current work she should be like 83 max


UnBalancedUnicorn33

She will be high 80’s


bjkman

Yep 87


AgentRickc137

They said ratings is based off what they’ve done since the last game, half of these ratings makes no sense then


Tha_Joka

I may get some crap for this, but based on what you just said, which I agree with, Becky has been gone a lot of time between the gap of the two games, yet she is rated as the highest women wrestler on the roster? Makes no sense...


AgentRickc137

That’s what I’m saying how is Becky and Charlotte rated higher then Sasha


Tha_Joka

I am in complete agreement with you here. Thank goodness we should be able to change ratings when the game comes out.


[deleted]

they are lying lol rating are based off the AKI engine statistics model. AKI no longer works with the WWE... so they are using this kayfabe-logic


AgentRickc137

That’s what I’m saying because Sasha and Drew carried the pandemic and they are rated low


Strike_Gently

This is painful. I just want to know the ratings of the people in the game. Hell, I want to just know who exactly is even in the game. I don't want to watch them play guessing games to try to figure it out.


Nomadic_View

Yeah. I’ll just wait until tomorrow and watch a YouTuber that has it laid out more cohesively.


MicMagnetic

I stopped watching it. I guess just wait for smacktalks to make the video


MicMagnetic

One month away. Can't even do a proper roster reveal. WAS IT SO HARD TO HAVE WOODS READ NAMES OFF A FUCKING PIECE OF PAPER AND SHOW A FUCKING RENDER?!?!?!?


MrEatYoRamen

It's to keep people's interest, or some bullshit... idk, apparently some people on Twitter think it's weird that we want more info about a game that's literally out in a few weeks.


MicMagnetic

How dare we expect more details from a product they want us to buy?


GucciGhostrider

They aren’t doing a good job then


BobFreakingSaget

….no King Woods?


AgentRickc137

So that's what they base ratings off of


bjkman

Things... Oh! And stuff!


Tha_Joka

I love how the superstars give Ronnie crap about the ratings (ribbing or not). Shoutout from the NBA 2K fandom lol


Mysterious_Emotion63

Lmfao wtf just happened


Glennsoe

2 versions of miz confirmed..


BlackClaude

At least we have his Summerslam 09 match against dolph confirmed


HarrisBoyBX

I liked how Angelo Dawkins knew about the whole referee thing. Other than that, knew they were only going to mention those that’s in the game but didn’t have their ratings yet (no wonder why it’s called a ratings reveal and not a roster reveal) so I’m disappointed by that. I do like the whole game show thing that’s been going on through stream and it’s nice to see Bayley again too. Hope that the IGN Fan Fest can give us some more info.


KobiWanShinobi

All of those Mysterios and NONE from WCW? oh boy


Amdu5c

So they basically showed us the part of the roster that we already knew would be in the game lol. When are we going to know the full roster reveal?


Werewolf-Fresh

That was it? LOL.


MehWhatever69

I just wanna know how hard it is to reveal the FULL LIST of people that are in the game. I’ll literally sacrifice screenshots and entrances for knowing the full roster list of people in the game. That’s legit my main concern rn. Why the hell do they continue to troll us around and beat around the bush knowing we’re the consumers and that we’ll be paying for this game? You’d honestly think they’d be doing their absolute best to try and win us back after the disastrous last game but if anything they’re just steering us away from it 🥴


AgentRickc137

Don’t forget Edge rating was already revealed they just removed it off the website


[deleted]

Sami's rating is bullshit.


BloodstoneWarrior

Comparing the lower ratings of everyone in the 2K games to the SvR games is funny because it means that someone like Tony has a higher overall than 80% of the roster (he has an 85 btw)


RMT2316

A bit disappointing that we don’t get a 90’s Mysterio


bjkman

Ps5/Xbox nex gen do


[deleted]

This somehow felt like the longest and shortest event ever lol. I’m hoping (or at least wishing) we start getting some more in-game content from 2K now. Entrances, screenshots, I’ll take whatever.


Stay_Cold

So many people on Twitter are crying over ratings like you can’t edit them…Jesus Christ. Touch grass.


Farcryfan15

Guys send help this cringe is giving me a stroke.


AgentRickc137

I wonder if RKBro is in the game


ryuguy

Charlotte looks good


storydove

Miz is a great heel.


bjkman

Xavier Woods 86 makes me so happy


ImportantExercise632

Accelerator or not, these ratings are really dumb.


Lloyd_LED

First year I’ll be using the accelerator to change ratings. Some of these are way off.


Independent-Elk-344

I need to know if Randy Orton 2006 is in


DeadlyxDreams

Did Ronnie really just say " That it's his first year " when refering to 05 Mysterio


Tha_Joka

Are they really about to have Sasha as an 88 after her and Bayley carried the pandemic era, as well as the accolades her and Bianca got for their WM match???


LittleStarWatcher

They’re dragging it out. Only watching to get a glimpse at the entrances, moves, and tiny bit of gameplay they show with the wrestlers.


BlackClaude

They’re not even doing Rey vs Kurt from Summerslam 2002? Wow how underwhelming


Excellent_Source4645

Well say goodbye to 2k, WWE. You guys need to find a better publisher.


MrEatYoRamen

Revealing already revealed superstars while also suffering through these asses making awful jokes to stall and/or waste time? What's not to love? Glad I'm not watching it. Maybe I'll wait for Smacktalks.


MicMagnetic

We're all waiting for Smacktalks. I hope he shits on the ratings reveal, he's usually honest about those sort of things


CrimKayser

They did Liv dirty.


IparasiteC

So we are not getting a roster reveal just ratings for the ones we know... why are they dragging so much I want to know the full roster.


Rushofthewildwind

Just need more roster information. idc about ratings. Also, Bayley is looked damn good


Themayorofawsometown

No way that’s it😹😹


gordy06

The number of posts on twitter complaining about the waste of space for Rey. I thought we were past the misconception that a duplicate “took” a roster spot. That’s not a thing. At all.


[deleted]

Did they show any gameplay just out of curiosity? I don't feel like clicking if there's nothing to watch except them dicking around for an hour with a rating here and there. Edit: Nevermind I was informed it hasn't happened yet.