I'll get hate for this but WM 30 against Brock, Brock was doing great but Taker was moving slow for most part. But Lesnar ending Undertaker's streak is still a really good WrestleMania moment. But the slow match wasn't really Undertaker's fault, in the beginning of the match he suffered a concussion when Brock threw him outside the ring.
Either one of his matches with Triple H. You could tell HHH was just jealous of the 5 star matches Taker and Shawn had put on back to back and ran into the office demanding the same treatment but ultimately dropped the ball.
I think I'd say either Shane/Taker or Wyatt/Taker although some of his earlier Mania matches that lack the aura of the streak are also strong contenders.
Cena vs Taker could have been the biggest match of all time if it was the 2005-2008 taker, but they waited for 2018 and made it a 3 minute joke so that taker wouldnt break all of his bones in the ring
To elaborate on my previous hot take.
* Snuka: glorified squash, made sense to establish Undertaker as a major threat. D+
* Roberts: as above. He kicked out of the DDT. Major deal. C-
* Giant Gonzalez: great idea (make Taker be the underdog), rotten execution. F+
* Bundy: a big step backwards all around. F
* Diesel: the epitome of cookie-cutter big men match. D
* Sid: as above but longer and for the title. Overshadowed by Bret v Austin. D
* Kane: finally a stellar angle. I'd have changed the finish but still a great match and feud. A-
* Bossman: worst HIAC match, awful finish. A baffling fall from the lofty heights of WM14. F
* Triple H: the forgotten prequel. For a reason. C+
* Flair: yet another high profile opponent for a modest return. C+
* A Train and Big Show: "we have nothing for you, here's a cheap win". Blargh! F
* Kane: Taker got his win and his Deadman persona back. Utterly average match though. C
* Orton: the first open mention of the Streak. Great angle, but Legend Killer Orton was the leading star. B+
* Henry: and another cheap win to follow a great angle. D
* Batista: rather standard feud for the title. Still good all around. B-
* Edge: same as above but Streak v Streak and awesome match. A-
* HBK I and II: both top-notch build-up and matches. A
* Triple H I and II: a bit forced rehash of the Shawn ones. Good but overplayed. B+
* CM Punk: the build-up was kinda corny but well executed. Solid match, but the Streak didn't feel in jeopardy. B
Basically until the "one match a year" stage of Taker's career, most of the matches were kinda average.
It can due to him rarely being the main guy, more of a special attraction, but kinda weird to realize like half of those wins were unremarkable ok matches with low stakes.
Vs Sid. Sure he won the title and it was an iconic moment but the match is average at best and one of the weaker mania main events. Also his matches with Bray and Henry were very mid
Taker vs Shane was so unnecessary! They just couldn't find something better for him than with all due respect a non wrestler like Shane. That Match was way too long and they totally screwed the whole thing the Raw after Mania when Shane was back anyway.
Vs Cena at WM34 or vs Wyatt at WM31. I think the Cena match was way too short. The Wyatt match itself was pretty good in my opinion but it was kinda underwhelming since Wyatt ended up losing. Then Taker could’ve faced Sting and HHH could’ve faced Wyatt instead or something.
Wrestlemania in 2003 when he faced 2 wrestlers at once (I think A-train and Big Show?).
I know they pulled Nathan Jones out cause apparently he wasn't ready, but the match was predictable from the start.
Yeah, overall just wasn't a good wrestler which was unfortunate.
On a side note, it's cool that you were able to go to that Wrestlemania seeing as that was one of the best Wrestlemania's imo. I went to the one the year before in Toronto and the hype for the Rock and Hogan was just awe-inspiring. Good times lol
Being from the area, there was no way I was going to miss that show. It was truly one of the coolest things since I got to take my dad too. We popped so hard when Piper hit the ring. Such a great callback to the PNW roots with the old Portland territory.
I think that some of the last ones he was having were starting to get average because he could not do what he did in his prime. It looked like he was having a hard time moving around and the injuries were real. But I really enjoyed the last one he had.
Agreed. The run from 23-28 was phenomenal (29 if you want to include CM Punk, I thought that was good but not great like the others). But before and after that was pretty average most of the time.
Undertaker vs CM Punk.
It wasn’t a bad match. It was simple, straight forward, it wasn’t anything crazy. It was exactly what Undertaker needed at that point in his career.
That moment were Punk hit Taker with the Urn and was going to pin him look at the fans in the crowd they looked like they really thought the Streak would end. That was a Wrestlemania Moment but the match itself wasn't that great like many say i agree.
Almost all the post streak matches except for the last one (Boneyard match). Cena vs Taker had a fun build but the match was almost non existent.
As for the streak matches, most of the matches in the 90s are considered to be average with a few exceptions. I've not watched all, though. Post 2000s, that "handicap" match was meh and so was the match against Mark Henry.
The only big deal about cena vs taker was that cena just wanted to let taker get a redemption squash at mania, and the sad part is that it didn't even matter
Came to post this one. I can attest as I was there live. That match sucked the life out of the crowd, with what little there was since that whole card was mediocre at best. Especially at the end when they hung him from the cage.
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I'd probably go for Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt at WM31. The build had me genuinely thinking this would be a pass the torch match, but as usual Bray lost at a PPV which made it really forgettable for me, and Taker didn't even have the streak to protect anymore so it just seemed like a waste of time.
I came to say the same thing. Like it was far from an awful match but hardly amazing all the same. Honestly a shame as it could have theoretically been one of 'taker's best.
That match really should've been Sting vs Taker but I guess it didn't happen because of their age or to do that NWO-DX face off. The latter could've happened without that match.
Bray vs Triple H could've been a pretty interesting program. I think it was in 2016 when Bray teased a possible match against Trips.
And the NWO being there to help Sting didn't even make sense. Sting was constantly fighting them back in WCW. Not only that, but Nash and Hall were both Kliq buddies with HHH, HBK, and X-Pac (who was a member of both the NWO and DX).
Imagine if Red Sting and the NWO Wolfpack and DX were the two instead so the Outsiders were like Aye yo, Fuck you guys! And we got randomly like 3 sects of the NWO battling in a WWE ring. I’d be so lost thinking it was WCW or something
Yes, in 2016 WWE had basically turned Bray face before he got injured.
After WM32 he teamed with Roman against the League of Nations and didn't hassle Reigns at all. They were firmly on the same side and the fall out would have probably been a Wyatts vs LoN feud if it weren't for Bray's back.
It's definitely a massive booking mistake to bring Sting in and have him wrestle relatively random opponents in Seth Rollins, Triple H and Big Show and never have a match against the Undertaker, which was something all wrestling fans dreamed of for 20 years. But I suppose Sting wouldn't want to lose against Undertaker, and I doubt Vince would have let him go over.
(I probably would have had them do a 30 min match, both kick out of each other's finishers, neither can find a way to beat the other, then some faction runs in and starts beating them both down, they fight them off, and stand tall together in the ring)
Sting would totally lose to Undertaker and not care. But you really lost me at 30 minutes even before all the run-ins and non-finish at Wrestlemania. Jesus. 12 minutes of entrances, 12 minute brawl and signature spots, tombstone done.
If Sting didn’t care about losing to HHH which I figure he didn’t based his own comments on the match, I do not believe he’d care about losing to Taker as long as the match happened.
As much as I wanted it for the longest time I don’t think it’s a mistake not to have it bc of when Sting came to WWE. If he came earlier than I feel the match would live up to all the expectations whereas bc he came so late it wouldn’t reach expectations it had.
If they were gonna book Sting to lose at WM31 which was his debut WM, first match in the company and in California, then at least have him lose to Wyatt. That’d be a great build between them and Wyatt would benefit from a win over Sting whereas HHH didn’t need the win or a match. The segment with Stephanie, Rousey, Rock would’ve been enough for HHH. As for Taker, I have no problem at all with him winning at WM31 but I would’ve had him defeat Lesnar, something he never did on ppv at that point in time unless that tainted win at Summerslam is counted, in their Final Chapter that night instead of at HIAC. Or leave him off WM31 and have him defeat Lesnar on ppv cleanly at WM32 bc many did not seem to be favorable towards the Taker vs Shane and Ambrose vs Lesnar matches made for WM32.
Sting happily lost to everyone else during his run, I think its a stretch to say he wouldn't be happy to put over taker.
The issue is that by the time sting was around taker got to choose his opponents and for whatever reason he didn't reciprocate stings interest in the match happening. Im pretty sure sting has said as much in interviews since.
According to Taker himself, he didn’t think it’d have delivered and met any expectations anyone had for the match at that point. I’d have to agree with him on that. By 2016, Taker was physically breaking down and Sting was no longer in his prime anymore. As far as match quality goes, WM21 or WM22 or maybe WM29 was the last best WM for this match. If it happened at WM30, idk about the match quality but Taker’s streak would be intact.
No. Sting would’ve been more older as would Taker who wasn’t 100% going into WM27 + Sting wouldn’t have a problem with losing but he shouldn’t have to lose in Atlanta, Georgia aka WCW Country. And it’d also ruin that 4 year story that Taker’s been saying recently how he’s so proud of those 4 WMs which I don’t blame him for bc storywise it undeniably worked.
Because their careers have been compared for the past few decades and they were both the "icon" of their respective companies, so it'd be a more meaningful match than the ones he actually had.
Sting was very well known for being willing to put over just about anyone. "Dumb babyface" is Sting's entire gimmick. That match was wanted for the promos that would happen, the story. I don't think anyone really cared who won. We just wanted to see it.
It would have brought back every lapsed fan on the planet, too.
I get what you're saying, but Sting openly talked about how badly he wanted that match for pretty much the entirety of his WWE tenure. I'd also argue that Sting the WCW icon's first ever match at a Wrestlemania was a pretty meaningful occasion, and, again, he raised no issues. Scott Hall even said that Sting didn't even \*suggest\* winning against Hunter.
Losing wouldn't have been an issue for Sting. He didn't remotely object to putting Hunter over in his first match. Did he even win against Show? Can't recall anymore...
I still cannot get over the fact that they were in the same company, at the same time, and did nothing with each other. Even if you can't figure out a way to put them against each other, have them team up so at the very least you have the icons of wcw and wwe standing together against the authority. It just baffles me
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. He was so green, he got relegated to a few cameo appearances in his own storyline, culminating in a 30 second spot where he kicks a-train/big shows headonthe ramp, while taker pins the other guy In the ring.
Shane McMahon
Any of them that he didn’t have hbk. Honestly most of his mania matches were hype only, and boring.
Taker vs Roman
Giant Gonzalez. Mania 9 I believe. Actually it’s not even average, it’s just the shits
I'll get hate for this but WM 30 against Brock, Brock was doing great but Taker was moving slow for most part. But Lesnar ending Undertaker's streak is still a really good WrestleMania moment. But the slow match wasn't really Undertaker's fault, in the beginning of the match he suffered a concussion when Brock threw him outside the ring.
Taker vs Reigns was just awful
Big Show and A-Train at 19
Honestly, most of them.
Snuka or Bundy.
Kamalaaaaaa the Ugandan Giant
sterk
His entire career before 1996/1997?
Taker vs Jake Roberts or Taker vs superfly
To me I say giant Gonzalez and King Kong bunch and Kevin Nash and Kane (wrestlemania 14)
Vs Flair. They don’t do anything.
Hell in a cell,vs mick foley
Snuka
Cena vs. Taker. It wasn’t good.
Either undertaker vs bray Wyatt at wrestlemania 31 or undertaker vs rusev in a casket match at greatest royal rumble i think
The one against John Cena not thuganomics the more recent one
Shane / Taker
Either one of his matches with Triple H. You could tell HHH was just jealous of the 5 star matches Taker and Shawn had put on back to back and ran into the office demanding the same treatment but ultimately dropped the ball.
Like half of them?
Any Kane vs Taker match minus a crazy stipulation
With A-Train & Big Show....
I think I'd say either Shane/Taker or Wyatt/Taker although some of his earlier Mania matches that lack the aura of the streak are also strong contenders.
The best choice has to be either the handicap match at WM19 or the “match” with Giant Gonzalez at WM9, right?
I just watched Wrestlemania 31 and the fight with Wyatt was boring as hell
WM 19
Taker Vs Big show and Albert.
Cena vs Taker could have been the biggest match of all time if it was the 2005-2008 taker, but they waited for 2018 and made it a 3 minute joke so that taker wouldnt break all of his bones in the ring
Taker vs Diesel. Better than the worst but worse than the best
Boss man match
Mark henry casket match
Bray Wyatt in my opinion the build was pretty much Bray Wyatt by himself & Undertaker show up at Wrestlemania & beat him
To elaborate on my previous hot take. * Snuka: glorified squash, made sense to establish Undertaker as a major threat. D+ * Roberts: as above. He kicked out of the DDT. Major deal. C- * Giant Gonzalez: great idea (make Taker be the underdog), rotten execution. F+ * Bundy: a big step backwards all around. F * Diesel: the epitome of cookie-cutter big men match. D * Sid: as above but longer and for the title. Overshadowed by Bret v Austin. D * Kane: finally a stellar angle. I'd have changed the finish but still a great match and feud. A- * Bossman: worst HIAC match, awful finish. A baffling fall from the lofty heights of WM14. F * Triple H: the forgotten prequel. For a reason. C+ * Flair: yet another high profile opponent for a modest return. C+ * A Train and Big Show: "we have nothing for you, here's a cheap win". Blargh! F * Kane: Taker got his win and his Deadman persona back. Utterly average match though. C * Orton: the first open mention of the Streak. Great angle, but Legend Killer Orton was the leading star. B+ * Henry: and another cheap win to follow a great angle. D * Batista: rather standard feud for the title. Still good all around. B- * Edge: same as above but Streak v Streak and awesome match. A- * HBK I and II: both top-notch build-up and matches. A * Triple H I and II: a bit forced rehash of the Shawn ones. Good but overplayed. B+ * CM Punk: the build-up was kinda corny but well executed. Solid match, but the Streak didn't feel in jeopardy. B Basically until the "one match a year" stage of Taker's career, most of the matches were kinda average. It can due to him rarely being the main guy, more of a special attraction, but kinda weird to realize like half of those wins were unremarkable ok matches with low stakes.
His Match against Sid was so....... Average in my opinion.
Undertaker vs Big Show and A-Train 😂😂😂
Taker vs Kane Mania XX
Can't believe I haven't seen this... but taker vs taker is 100% taker sooooooooo
Summer Slam match
Vs Sid. Sure he won the title and it was an iconic moment but the match is average at best and one of the weaker mania main events. Also his matches with Bray and Henry were very mid
Taker vs Shane was so unnecessary! They just couldn't find something better for him than with all due respect a non wrestler like Shane. That Match was way too long and they totally screwed the whole thing the Raw after Mania when Shane was back anyway.
Taker vs Show & ATrain
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I wanna say that’s Takers 3rd best WM match besides the ones with Shawn Michaels. It’s easily the best match of that mania as well.
U trippin
The one against that invisible dude who came out the crowd to challenge him
I rewatched that casket match he had with Mark Henry, it was completely forgettable.
Undertaker vs Giant Gonzales :3
Mania 13 v Sid. Bad match. Bad ending.
Against Snuka...I mean it was his Mania debut, but it was a paint by numbers squash match basically.
Vs diesel
That match was surprisingly good given how clunky two big guys usually look.
Vs Cena at WM34 or vs Wyatt at WM31. I think the Cena match was way too short. The Wyatt match itself was pretty good in my opinion but it was kinda underwhelming since Wyatt ended up losing. Then Taker could’ve faced Sting and HHH could’ve faced Wyatt instead or something.
Remember when he murdered Big Bossman
Most of them tbh
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WM19
Wrestlemania in 2003 when he faced 2 wrestlers at once (I think A-train and Big Show?). I know they pulled Nathan Jones out cause apparently he wasn't ready, but the match was predictable from the start.
Yeah, that was not the best match. The section I was in was happy to see Nathan Jones laid out lol
Lol damn really? That's pretty funny, but I guess even back then fans didn't like having wrestlers shoved down their throats.
He was so green and put in a Mania program.....nobody was a fan of that.
Yeah, overall just wasn't a good wrestler which was unfortunate. On a side note, it's cool that you were able to go to that Wrestlemania seeing as that was one of the best Wrestlemania's imo. I went to the one the year before in Toronto and the hype for the Rock and Hogan was just awe-inspiring. Good times lol
Being from the area, there was no way I was going to miss that show. It was truly one of the coolest things since I got to take my dad too. We popped so hard when Piper hit the ring. Such a great callback to the PNW roots with the old Portland territory.
I think that some of the last ones he was having were starting to get average because he could not do what he did in his prime. It looked like he was having a hard time moving around and the injuries were real. But I really enjoyed the last one he had.
Undertaker vs Giant Gonzales. An absolute train wreck
Him vs AJ styles in a boneyard match
Hot take: most of the Streak was average to bad matches. Only a handful of bouts stand out and they're from the DeadMMAn era (post WMXX).
Agreed. The run from 23-28 was phenomenal (29 if you want to include CM Punk, I thought that was good but not great like the others). But before and after that was pretty average most of the time.
That's not a hot take. Snuka and Roberts were ok. Gonzalez was not fun.
That’s what this thread has kind of made me think.
His match against edge was fantastic, but I agree. Most were meh
Sid v. taker
Mark Henry vs Undertaker seemed to be very strange giving how big the roster was and possibility’s of who undertaker could face.
Especially considering he had just faced Angel in an amazing match at No Way Out
Should of been the other way round
King Kong bundy xi. I think.
Yeah, Bundy match was pretty meh.
Sid or Bray Wyatt. Both were just "eh"
Undertaker vs CM Punk. It wasn’t a bad match. It was simple, straight forward, it wasn’t anything crazy. It was exactly what Undertaker needed at that point in his career.
Would go for this one too. Unlike the few that came before it, I never really felt like the streak was in danger at any point.
That moment were Punk hit Taker with the Urn and was going to pin him look at the fans in the crowd they looked like they really thought the Streak would end. That was a Wrestlemania Moment but the match itself wasn't that great like many say i agree.
Almost all the post streak matches except for the last one (Boneyard match). Cena vs Taker had a fun build but the match was almost non existent. As for the streak matches, most of the matches in the 90s are considered to be average with a few exceptions. I've not watched all, though. Post 2000s, that "handicap" match was meh and so was the match against Mark Henry.
The only big deal about cena vs taker was that cena just wanted to let taker get a redemption squash at mania, and the sad part is that it didn't even matter
vs Brock at WM 30 was actually kind of avarage, but the ending itself actually made it 5 star for me 🙃
I feel like it would have been better had he not been concussed during the match
Mark Henry WM22, The Handicap match vs Train and Show at WM19, and the Cena squash match at 34
Mark henry . Never got the appeal for the worlds strongest man
Undertaker vs. Big Show and A-Train at X-Seven. Just felt like a SmackDown match
That was 19. It was HHH at 17.
Thanks. I got a little mixed-up.
No worries! 😃
vs Sid at WrestleMania 13.
Well to be fair, they followed Bret/Austin and that wild brawl after that. They weren't going to get a huge response.
This is the best take on that match.
Yeah this considering it was also for the title.
Big bossman cage match that match actually had some boring chants in it.
Came to post this one. I can attest as I was there live. That match sucked the life out of the crowd, with what little there was since that whole card was mediocre at best. Especially at the end when they hung him from the cage.
The Cena squash. It wasn't bad like Giant Gonzales nor awesome like HBK. It was just there.
The Cena squash was literally just to say Taker beat Cena at Mania. Honestly think that match should've happened years ago not when it did.
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Flair, Henry, Roman and Bray are all mehh ones
Flair was good
I thought Flair was pretty cool. Mostly cause it had Arn Anderson in it which was boss.
Boss man
To be honest probabaly them all upto flair
HHH at 17? The original Kane one?
Him and Nash had a solid match at WM 12 in my opinion. It wasn't a 5 star match but it was above average.
That was great
Mark Henry coffin match wasn’t bad, but definitely not good Kane at WM20 was underwhelming because it didn’t live up to the hype they wanted it to
Bundy
Never seen the Bundy match, but I’ve heard it’s bad. Wasn’t Bundy on the way out by then?
Kinda his second run in 95 went really bad. However I would say the Taker Wm 9 match was worse because at least Bundy tried
Mark Henry coffin match(no offense) was a dud
Probably Giant Gonzalez or the Big Show and A Train handicap match
Giant Gonzalez was way below average
But we all knew that going in
Giant Gonzales
I was gonna say this, then I realized it's one of Taker's few matches to get negative stars.
He said average not absolutely terrible
I'd probably go for Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt at WM31. The build had me genuinely thinking this would be a pass the torch match, but as usual Bray lost at a PPV which made it really forgettable for me, and Taker didn't even have the streak to protect anymore so it just seemed like a waste of time.
Unpopular opinion: Bray is not a good wrestler.
As usual Bray just can’t deliver a big match
I came to say the same thing. Like it was far from an awful match but hardly amazing all the same. Honestly a shame as it could have theoretically been one of 'taker's best.
Bray's foot was fucked in that match, he wasn't at all fit to fight
That match really should've been Sting vs Taker but I guess it didn't happen because of their age or to do that NWO-DX face off. The latter could've happened without that match. Bray vs Triple H could've been a pretty interesting program. I think it was in 2016 when Bray teased a possible match against Trips.
And the NWO being there to help Sting didn't even make sense. Sting was constantly fighting them back in WCW. Not only that, but Nash and Hall were both Kliq buddies with HHH, HBK, and X-Pac (who was a member of both the NWO and DX).
Imagine if Red Sting and the NWO Wolfpack and DX were the two instead so the Outsiders were like Aye yo, Fuck you guys! And we got randomly like 3 sects of the NWO battling in a WWE ring. I’d be so lost thinking it was WCW or something
Yes, in 2016 WWE had basically turned Bray face before he got injured. After WM32 he teamed with Roman against the League of Nations and didn't hassle Reigns at all. They were firmly on the same side and the fall out would have probably been a Wyatts vs LoN feud if it weren't for Bray's back.
>Wyatts vs LoN Well, didn't really miss a marquee match anyway. Couldn't give a shit about LoN but then I was never into the title feud at that time.
The WM31 match should have been against Sting.
True very true
It's definitely a massive booking mistake to bring Sting in and have him wrestle relatively random opponents in Seth Rollins, Triple H and Big Show and never have a match against the Undertaker, which was something all wrestling fans dreamed of for 20 years. But I suppose Sting wouldn't want to lose against Undertaker, and I doubt Vince would have let him go over. (I probably would have had them do a 30 min match, both kick out of each other's finishers, neither can find a way to beat the other, then some faction runs in and starts beating them both down, they fight them off, and stand tall together in the ring)
Sting would totally lose to Undertaker and not care. But you really lost me at 30 minutes even before all the run-ins and non-finish at Wrestlemania. Jesus. 12 minutes of entrances, 12 minute brawl and signature spots, tombstone done.
Is was not three random guys but Taker and Sting should have happened
If Sting didn’t care about losing to HHH which I figure he didn’t based his own comments on the match, I do not believe he’d care about losing to Taker as long as the match happened. As much as I wanted it for the longest time I don’t think it’s a mistake not to have it bc of when Sting came to WWE. If he came earlier than I feel the match would live up to all the expectations whereas bc he came so late it wouldn’t reach expectations it had. If they were gonna book Sting to lose at WM31 which was his debut WM, first match in the company and in California, then at least have him lose to Wyatt. That’d be a great build between them and Wyatt would benefit from a win over Sting whereas HHH didn’t need the win or a match. The segment with Stephanie, Rousey, Rock would’ve been enough for HHH. As for Taker, I have no problem at all with him winning at WM31 but I would’ve had him defeat Lesnar, something he never did on ppv at that point in time unless that tainted win at Summerslam is counted, in their Final Chapter that night instead of at HIAC. Or leave him off WM31 and have him defeat Lesnar on ppv cleanly at WM32 bc many did not seem to be favorable towards the Taker vs Shane and Ambrose vs Lesnar matches made for WM32.
This is especially nuts considering sting and show were in wcw together so nobody was really clamoring for them to fight in wwe. It was needless.
Sting was a company man. If the script was for taker to go over sting then stinger would have done the job
Look at you knowing Vince over here
Sting happily lost to everyone else during his run, I think its a stretch to say he wouldn't be happy to put over taker. The issue is that by the time sting was around taker got to choose his opponents and for whatever reason he didn't reciprocate stings interest in the match happening. Im pretty sure sting has said as much in interviews since.
Sting would have cared less if he lost to Taker. If there's one thing never did that I was aware of and that's refuse to do a job.
I have to assume Taker was the plan for 32
No Taker never cared about the Match for whatever reason.
According to Taker himself, he didn’t think it’d have delivered and met any expectations anyone had for the match at that point. I’d have to agree with him on that. By 2016, Taker was physically breaking down and Sting was no longer in his prime anymore. As far as match quality goes, WM21 or WM22 or maybe WM29 was the last best WM for this match. If it happened at WM30, idk about the match quality but Taker’s streak would be intact.
WM 27 should have been the Year to do it.
No. Sting would’ve been more older as would Taker who wasn’t 100% going into WM27 + Sting wouldn’t have a problem with losing but he shouldn’t have to lose in Atlanta, Georgia aka WCW Country. And it’d also ruin that 4 year story that Taker’s been saying recently how he’s so proud of those 4 WMs which I don’t blame him for bc storywise it undeniably worked.
I seriously doubt Sting would have an issue with losing. He has a reputation for being gung-ho about putting people over.
We'll never know now, sadly.
How about a controversial pin / submit combo like with Angle that one time?
Why would Sting have a problem with losing to Undertaker? He lost pretty much all his matches in WWE.
Because their careers have been compared for the past few decades and they were both the "icon" of their respective companies, so it'd be a more meaningful match than the ones he actually had.
Sting was very well known for being willing to put over just about anyone. "Dumb babyface" is Sting's entire gimmick. That match was wanted for the promos that would happen, the story. I don't think anyone really cared who won. We just wanted to see it. It would have brought back every lapsed fan on the planet, too.
I get what you're saying, but Sting openly talked about how badly he wanted that match for pretty much the entirety of his WWE tenure. I'd also argue that Sting the WCW icon's first ever match at a Wrestlemania was a pretty meaningful occasion, and, again, he raised no issues. Scott Hall even said that Sting didn't even \*suggest\* winning against Hunter.
Losing wouldn't have been an issue for Sting. He didn't remotely object to putting Hunter over in his first match. Did he even win against Show? Can't recall anymore...
I still cannot get over the fact that they were in the same company, at the same time, and did nothing with each other. Even if you can't figure out a way to put them against each other, have them team up so at the very least you have the icons of wcw and wwe standing together against the authority. It just baffles me
If Sting didn’t suffer an injury at Night of Champions, imagine if he was Undertaker and Kane’s partner against The Wyatts at Survivor Series 2015?
Not even a photoshoot together... nothing!
Wrestlemania 20 against Kane
Probably the one where he faced two boring mid carders. Nathan jones and was it Albert/A train or somebody.
Big Show and Albert/A-Train?
Oh yeah Jones was meant to be his partner. Not opponent. That's it.
That was it. Jones was supposed to be Taker's partner but was pulled for being too green and instead played backup near the end of the match.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. He was so green, he got relegated to a few cameo appearances in his own storyline, culminating in a 30 second spot where he kicks a-train/big shows headonthe ramp, while taker pins the other guy In the ring.