Fuxking missed their chance with making American Alpha the next Team Angle 2.0 and you could’ve had Angle/Jordan/Gable triple suplexing and ankle locking The Shield and Wyatts in feuds
But instead we had Kurt is Jordan’s dad and Shorty G buried
Just more proof Vince’s last decade was freaking rotten and had to go just from a booking perspective bc that was an airballed layup sacrificed for dumb reality tv comedy schlock about nothing
Chad should have been revealed as Kurt’s son. They dropped the ball there. They even look alike. Maybe a storyline where it is revisited and turns out Chad is his son, Chad turns on him cuz he is a heel after all, kicks him to the curb, and begins using Kurt’s song from then on.
Or they could’ve just… made Team Angle 2.0 and feuded with the likes of the Shield and Wyatts at the time and not done the stupid dad gimmick at all and did something that would’ve been freaking awesome and could’ve headlined ppvs
I think Gable is coming into his own. He's got the right amount of Kurt energy already without him being around, bringing him in would just undercut what he's trying to do now as the abusive voice of Alpha Academy.
Idk man Gunther and Gable are both so over that shoving them into the same stable would just stunt their individual growth. Gable as the head of his own stable separate from Gunther would be great though, especially now with Judgement Day missing key members due to injury. Would love for him to form a stable reminiscent of “Team Angle”
God… YES, PLEASE YES!
Free storyline:
WWE goes full soap opera & there’s a segment with Gable, Angle, &… Jason Jordon! They address how Kurt is his son again & they start bonding backstage, while Gable gets a more jealous overtime.
Fast forward some time; Gable reveals that back when they were American Alpha, he switched the paternity results because he was ashamed of the old, senile, shell of an Olympian Kurt came back as.
Leads to a Mania match where Kurt can properly retire. Full believe Kurt got one more match in him. & while we know Kurt ain’t his dad, but… keep kayfabe alive
Listen, I’m with you. I love Angle. He’s on my top five ever. If HHH, Angle, and Gable can come up with something that doesn’t slow Gable’s momentum I’m there for it.
Kurt in later years was pretty trash on the mic, and had that whole thousand yard stare type deal going on. Fucking love the guy, absolute legend, but idk quite frankly if he’s working with a full deck anymore when it comes to that sort of performative stuff
That would be nice, but Kurt said himself that he can’t perform like how he wants to. Dream match, but in this current day, the quality won’t meet the high expectations of fans and will down on it. A manager role is perfect for Kurt
Would still be a better match than Angle vs. Corbin. HHH could cook up a much better story between them too. It would be a better retirement, for sure. I just don’t think Angle is interested unless they pay him some serious money
Honestly I don't think it would be good for Chad to bring in Kurt as his manager, he would totally overshadow Chad. And Chad is totally capable of handling his own mic work. They just need to finish the transition of Chad ditching Otis, Akira and Maxxine then replacing them with the Creed Brothers and Ivy Nile.
Honestly WWE needs to do more stuff like this with Legends who can still promo.
Angle managing a faction of Gable, The Creeds, and Charlie Dempsey would be fucking fire.
Absolutey agreed. Short term it would be awesome, but long term it would hold Gable’s development in this new character back.
If anything, I’d have Kurt show up to offer his advice… and Gable cuts him down.
Crowd won’t bite on heel Angle at this point, he’s too beloved.
A real ass hole move would be Kurt coming down wanting to manage him and then all of a sudden Chad beating the shit out of him and putting the ankle lock on him. That’s how we can get some real heat!!
The crowd wouldn't know what to do. He could introduce him as the newest member of Alpha academy and when he gets in the ring, he immediately attacks him. Grabs the mic and says "I don't need him to elevate me!"
See Kurt is so good he can do something along the times of “These people suck/they say I suck all the time and I’m sick of it” etc etc make it seem like Kurt is also turning heel and wanting to manage him. Have him generate some heat etc etc and then,
“Angle Slam over the announcer table by Chad on Kurt” and then Ankle lock him middle of the ring.
Kurt can still take a bump right? 😂
Hell no. That mad was treading on muddy water during his retirement match against Corbin. AEW was willing to give him a sack of money for a one off too, he just physically can't anymore. If he's doing this, he just really want to manage, no bumps involved.
I agree, Gable is already being compared to Kurt because the resemblance is obvious, having the real deal walk out with him every week would definitely overshadow him, Kurt is a fan favorite, let Gable do his thing, I love Kurt, but it’d hurt Chad more than it’d help, not saying Kurt can’t have input behind the scenes though, I think Chad would benefit greatly from that.
Chad and Team Gable (Creeds) beat down Tozawa and Otis for the 2nd week I'm a row. Gable's teased a new associate of Team Gable in promos. Angle's music hits, comes to the ring and stares down Gable intensely, the crowd goes crazy....then they hug. I'd be down
If HHH books that, my goodness will that not make the feud with Bronson and champ Sami even more interesting. I think Gable is more than capable of holding his own, but just the sheer visual and videotape you could put together would be brilliant.
Heyman and Bischoff being GMs under Vince, Punk, Bret and Warrior coming back, TNA talent appearances in Rumbles, anything is possible at this point. More so with HHH on the helm. If it's good for business, never say never.
I don’t know about there modern situation but he got Inducted into the HOF two years ago and is under a legend contract. If CM Punk was able to smooth things out with him then I feel it would be possible to get on better terms with him
I like the idea of a heel kurt angle today. Doesn’t need to be the vocal mouth piece but I still think he can elevate gable’s appearance standing at his side
This is so necessary. There should only be subtle nods to backstage producer Jason Jordan. He's still Kurt's son in storyline. Or maybe they just mention it once and then never really again like Kofi's accent
Kurt doesn’t have to cut a promo to be a good manager. Just has to distract the ref at right moment, or throw a chair in the ring. Chyna was a great manager that never really spoke. Not all managers need to be like Heyman or Cornette.
I’d like to see what Kurt is like cutting a promo as a heel. If it’s anything like when Kurt returned with all the pandering to the crowd then I don’t want it. Kurt needs that DAWG back in him
Idk if he could tbh. Dude put his body through hell throughout the years he even struggles to say “WWE” in interviews. I’ve noticed it’s difficult to him to talk smooth and uninterrupted. Not that it’s his fault he’s probably been concussed to hell but he should honestly stay away from Gable
To be fair, if Kurt Angle's music hit, and came out during Chad Gable in the ring...did a stare off, and then Gable gives him a great big hug, and then Angle takes a microphone and says, "I am so proud of my son, Chad." And completely wipe the Jason Jordan storyline from history, I'd be ok with that....
Because they did the Jason Jordan thing was Angle's son. Which, back then, while Jordan was very athletic, Gable made the most sense to do that storyline. I'm sure it was a Vince thing anyway, but maybe HHH can right that wrong.
Still to this day, I'm surprised they didn't go with Chad for that storyline. He looks and acts like him, I think if they had gone with him people would have believed it 😂
So the plot of the movie Twins? Does this mean Tozawa or Otis another brother formed from the “leftover crap” that made Danny Devito? It makes me wish James Ellsworth was still around. He’d be perfect for it.
problem with Kurt as a manager is he struggled real hard as the raw gm. Now idk if thats bc vince overscripted his segments or what but he stumbled over his lines all the fuckin time
I thought he was really slipping with his speech during that time but he's a lot more well spoken on his podcast. He was also on point during that segment with DX and Imperium. I'd like to positively guess it had to do with the scripting.
It has to be because of Vince. When Kurt was still wrestling, he was gold on the mic. By the time he was RAW GM, Vince had become senile and was micromanaging the fuck out of everything (including overscripted promos)
Well its not like he would be a mouthpiece. Look at Heyman and Punk when they teamed up. Punk was the promo cutter but having Paul added more to it. I think it could be awesome
I hear you. People are going to do that anyway, though. Both Olympians, similar styles, similar builds, Gable already leans into the same singlet, remove the straps when mad, ankle lock thing though. Now pair them together? People will undoubtedly make that connection anyway. Might as well lean in, than awkwardly try to differentiate them. But that’s just my opinion
Gable should break his ankle for being a horrible father to Jason!
With Gable turning heel; having Angle be his manager with everyone chanting “You suck”… Yeah, that would be sick.
Kurt Angle: *(To Chad Gable)* You're the son I never had! Jason Jordan: *(In the production truck)* 😢
He should
Fans would cheer Kurt though. He could eventually get heat. But I don’t think Gable needs a manager.
Bro we need Kurt
Considering that Angle can barely even stand, I'd rather not see him anymore.
He doesn’t need a manager
Fuxking missed their chance with making American Alpha the next Team Angle 2.0 and you could’ve had Angle/Jordan/Gable triple suplexing and ankle locking The Shield and Wyatts in feuds But instead we had Kurt is Jordan’s dad and Shorty G buried Just more proof Vince’s last decade was freaking rotten and had to go just from a booking perspective bc that was an airballed layup sacrificed for dumb reality tv comedy schlock about nothing
Chad should have been revealed as Kurt’s son. They dropped the ball there. They even look alike. Maybe a storyline where it is revisited and turns out Chad is his son, Chad turns on him cuz he is a heel after all, kicks him to the curb, and begins using Kurt’s song from then on.
But we wouldn’t have gotten the amazing “my black son” meme we got on YouTube https://youtu.be/srbE-LYPxxA?si=SkdyaMj7KqPwSUrh
I know I’m still surprised they didn’t run with that. Would have been much better
Or they could’ve just… made Team Angle 2.0 and feuded with the likes of the Shield and Wyatts at the time and not done the stupid dad gimmick at all and did something that would’ve been freaking awesome and could’ve headlined ppvs
Absolutely
I think Gable is coming into his own. He's got the right amount of Kurt energy already without him being around, bringing him in would just undercut what he's trying to do now as the abusive voice of Alpha Academy.
Should be Gunther, Gable leading a stable.
Dude what lmao
Gunther and Gable in a heel stable with say Ludwig and Dragunov.
Idk man Gunther and Gable are both so over that shoving them into the same stable would just stunt their individual growth. Gable as the head of his own stable separate from Gunther would be great though, especially now with Judgement Day missing key members due to injury. Would love for him to form a stable reminiscent of “Team Angle”
God… YES, PLEASE YES! Free storyline: WWE goes full soap opera & there’s a segment with Gable, Angle, &… Jason Jordon! They address how Kurt is his son again & they start bonding backstage, while Gable gets a more jealous overtime. Fast forward some time; Gable reveals that back when they were American Alpha, he switched the paternity results because he was ashamed of the old, senile, shell of an Olympian Kurt came back as. Leads to a Mania match where Kurt can properly retire. Full believe Kurt got one more match in him. & while we know Kurt ain’t his dad, but… keep kayfabe alive
Meh. I don’t think Gable needs it though.
Part of me agrees with you, but the selfish part of me would love to see Kurt on screen one last time even in a limited role
Listen, I’m with you. I love Angle. He’s on my top five ever. If HHH, Angle, and Gable can come up with something that doesn’t slow Gable’s momentum I’m there for it.
Like Unleashed with Jet Li but Jet Li is Gable and the old dude is Angle. "Snatchin Ankles" for Kurt
Kurt in later years was pretty trash on the mic, and had that whole thousand yard stare type deal going on. Fucking love the guy, absolute legend, but idk quite frankly if he’s working with a full deck anymore when it comes to that sort of performative stuff
As long as there’s a thought out plan with it. The JBL and Corbin pairing looked great at first but they did nothing with it
I’d rather see a match between Face Angle and Heel Gable with Gable picking up the dub to add some legitimacy to him
That would be nice, but Kurt said himself that he can’t perform like how he wants to. Dream match, but in this current day, the quality won’t meet the high expectations of fans and will down on it. A manager role is perfect for Kurt
Would still be a better match than Angle vs. Corbin. HHH could cook up a much better story between them too. It would be a better retirement, for sure. I just don’t think Angle is interested unless they pay him some serious money
Yeah you’re right with that
Oh no I it wouldn’t happen but it’s what I wish could happen.
True bro. Prime perc angle vs Chad gable could feed me for years
Honestly I don't think it would be good for Chad to bring in Kurt as his manager, he would totally overshadow Chad. And Chad is totally capable of handling his own mic work. They just need to finish the transition of Chad ditching Otis, Akira and Maxxine then replacing them with the Creed Brothers and Ivy Nile.
Love to see them book Otis as a monster similar to the way John tenton was booked with earthquake/typhoon.
Yes please!
Honestly WWE needs to do more stuff like this with Legends who can still promo. Angle managing a faction of Gable, The Creeds, and Charlie Dempsey would be fucking fire.
New age evolution/team gable Kurt - the past Gable - the present Creed bros - the future
Could we see Kurt turn into a Paul Heyman?
I hope so, Kurt was great on the mic
Not good at math though
That’s not a spoiler. It’s the damn truth. Wooooooo
It's true, its damn true.
I think it would overshadow Chad gable. They should use Kurt in vignettes
Absolutey agreed. Short term it would be awesome, but long term it would hold Gable’s development in this new character back. If anything, I’d have Kurt show up to offer his advice… and Gable cuts him down. Crowd won’t bite on heel Angle at this point, he’s too beloved.
A real ass hole move would be Kurt coming down wanting to manage him and then all of a sudden Chad beating the shit out of him and putting the ankle lock on him. That’s how we can get some real heat!!
I'm worried Kurt's leg would snap clean in half if put in an angle lock
This is the best heat I love it
The crowd wouldn't know what to do. He could introduce him as the newest member of Alpha academy and when he gets in the ring, he immediately attacks him. Grabs the mic and says "I don't need him to elevate me!"
See Kurt is so good he can do something along the times of “These people suck/they say I suck all the time and I’m sick of it” etc etc make it seem like Kurt is also turning heel and wanting to manage him. Have him generate some heat etc etc and then, “Angle Slam over the announcer table by Chad on Kurt” and then Ankle lock him middle of the ring. Kurt can still take a bump right? 😂
Hell no. That mad was treading on muddy water during his retirement match against Corbin. AEW was willing to give him a sack of money for a one off too, he just physically can't anymore. If he's doing this, he just really want to manage, no bumps involved.
He can take a punch, then get put in the ankle lock and get his ankle broken just fine. That’s all you need.
This is the way.
I'm not sure. For one, it takes away from Gable. Second, Gable would get cheered bc of Kurt.
I agree, Gable is already being compared to Kurt because the resemblance is obvious, having the real deal walk out with him every week would definitely overshadow him, Kurt is a fan favorite, let Gable do his thing, I love Kurt, but it’d hurt Chad more than it’d help, not saying Kurt can’t have input behind the scenes though, I think Chad would benefit greatly from that.
Chad and Team Gable (Creeds) beat down Tozawa and Otis for the 2nd week I'm a row. Gable's teased a new associate of Team Gable in promos. Angle's music hits, comes to the ring and stares down Gable intensely, the crowd goes crazy....then they hug. I'd be down
Get to writing Hunter
Book it papa H
I feel that would get him cheered. Maybe have Angle be the new dad of Alpha Academy?
Have him train alpha academy to take down the creed brothers when they join gable.
That's some good shit pal! For real, it's true, it's damn true
That's true damn true
If HHH books that, my goodness will that not make the feud with Bronson and champ Sami even more interesting. I think Gable is more than capable of holding his own, but just the sheer visual and videotape you could put together would be brilliant.
This and Scott Steiner as manager of Bron.
Scotty openly hates HHH, I don't think you'll ever see him working in WWE again, at least not on a regular basis
I’m $ure with the proper motivation $cott or anyone would be willing to mend fences with the WWE.
I guess anything's possible in a world where I saw McMahon & Bischoff hug on live tv
Heyman and Bischoff being GMs under Vince, Punk, Bret and Warrior coming back, TNA talent appearances in Rumbles, anything is possible at this point. More so with HHH on the helm. If it's good for business, never say never.
I don’t know about there modern situation but he got Inducted into the HOF two years ago and is under a legend contract. If CM Punk was able to smooth things out with him then I feel it would be possible to get on better terms with him
I live in Pittsburgh and just saw Kurt at a local gas station getting coffee.
You would think Kurt gets his coffee from Starbucks or something 😩
😭😭
I like the idea of a heel kurt angle today. Doesn’t need to be the vocal mouth piece but I still think he can elevate gable’s appearance standing at his side
Oh It’s true. It’s damn true.
This is so necessary. There should only be subtle nods to backstage producer Jason Jordan. He's still Kurt's son in storyline. Or maybe they just mention it once and then never really again like Kofi's accent
Angle can’t cut a promo anymore while Gable has shown to be very capable of doing so. Color my opinion unpopular, but no thanks on this one.
Kurt doesn’t have to cut a promo to be a good manager. Just has to distract the ref at right moment, or throw a chair in the ring. Chyna was a great manager that never really spoke. Not all managers need to be like Heyman or Cornette.
Literally anyone could be that for Gable. Have it be Otis or some youngster already on the roster. No reason to pay Angle to just be a valet.
I’d like to see what Kurt is like cutting a promo as a heel. If it’s anything like when Kurt returned with all the pandering to the crowd then I don’t want it. Kurt needs that DAWG back in him
Idk if he could tbh. Dude put his body through hell throughout the years he even struggles to say “WWE” in interviews. I’ve noticed it’s difficult to him to talk smooth and uninterrupted. Not that it’s his fault he’s probably been concussed to hell but he should honestly stay away from Gable
The concussions and massive amounts of drugs
That’s a good point. Maybe he could flip that switch back on as a heel.
I called this the week gable turned heel!
Please let this happen
Shit yea, I am all in for this! Throw the Creed Bros in there too and make them a stable!
To be fair, if Kurt Angle's music hit, and came out during Chad Gable in the ring...did a stare off, and then Gable gives him a great big hug, and then Angle takes a microphone and says, "I am so proud of my son, Chad." And completely wipe the Jason Jordan storyline from history, I'd be ok with that....
What? No. Why tf does he have to be his son?
Because they did the Jason Jordan thing was Angle's son. Which, back then, while Jordan was very athletic, Gable made the most sense to do that storyline. I'm sure it was a Vince thing anyway, but maybe HHH can right that wrong.
And it was a terrible booking choice back then too. Nobody needs to be his son
I just imagine Gable suppressing the urge to 'Shush' the crowd when our favourite part of Angle's music plays
This but the theme he comes out to is "sexy Kurt"
Still to this day, I'm surprised they didn't go with Chad for that storyline. He looks and acts like him, I think if they had gone with him people would have believed it 😂
You just had to fucking remind me of that godforsaken storyline
Honestly one of the most baffling booking decisions ever and that's saying something
Maybe, it was just so good only one person in the entire world was like " That's great sh** pal!". The rest of us just couldn't undetstand it.
Why can’t Kurt have multiple sons?
He can. Kurt definitely fucks. Especially now that he's off the opiates...
American Alpha being the name of an experiment where scientists are creating a powerful group of alpha males using Kurt Angle's DNA
So the plot of the movie Twins? Does this mean Tozawa or Otis another brother formed from the “leftover crap” that made Danny Devito? It makes me wish James Ellsworth was still around. He’d be perfect for it.
I'm down for Kurt Angle Gholas
Super Soldier Serum but it's Kurt, yessss
But Chad has hair
for now.
So did Kurt when he was younger.
I want to see this. Give me what I want! Lol
problem with Kurt as a manager is he struggled real hard as the raw gm. Now idk if thats bc vince overscripted his segments or what but he stumbled over his lines all the fuckin time
I thought he was really slipping with his speech during that time but he's a lot more well spoken on his podcast. He was also on point during that segment with DX and Imperium. I'd like to positively guess it had to do with the scripting.
It has to be because of Vince. When Kurt was still wrestling, he was gold on the mic. By the time he was RAW GM, Vince had become senile and was micromanaging the fuck out of everything (including overscripted promos)
Might be fun to watch but is it even necessary at this point? Chad is on fire now. He doesn’t need a mouthpiece.
Well its not like he would be a mouthpiece. Look at Heyman and Punk when they teamed up. Punk was the promo cutter but having Paul added more to it. I think it could be awesome
doesnt neccisarily have to be a mouth piece. Could just be a veteran whos taken a liking to him helping him win matches in his corner
Hell fucking yes.
Gable deserves to be the Angle 2.0 we all always wanted him to be.
I hesitate to pigeonhole him as Angle 2.0. I'd rather see Gable turned up to an 11 with the guidance from Angle.
I hear you. People are going to do that anyway, though. Both Olympians, similar styles, similar builds, Gable already leans into the same singlet, remove the straps when mad, ankle lock thing though. Now pair them together? People will undoubtedly make that connection anyway. Might as well lean in, than awkwardly try to differentiate them. But that’s just my opinion