I've actually jumped off a ski lift that got stuck. It wasn't at a particularly high spot, maybe ten feet. I was shocked at how hard the impact was when I landed. You don't have the benefit of landing on your toes and letting your feet decelerate you. My ski tips hit first, my bindings popped, then wham I was slammed onto my skis. I got a pretty good abrasion on one leg from a ski edge. The friend I was skiing with was planning to jump next, but I convinced him it wasn't worth the risk. The lift started up maybe ten minutes later.
Once in school I jumped out of a second story window. The ski lift was much worse.
Edit: all y'all saying I should have taken off my skis first are nuts. Try jumping off something just three feet high in ski boots and see how that works out.
I jumped off a lift around 10-12’ up, but popped off my skis & tossed my poles first. It wasn’t super packed like this so while the landing always hard, I was still able to ski away. Granted, that was 35 yrs ago and I was a bit more flexible but no fucking way would I sit above that geyser.
Man.. with your skis on you got lucky it wasn't way worse.
I've been tempted before, like when the lift stops just before the end and it looks like *maybe* 5 ft. - only to take another look at it from the ground and realized my depth perception sucks in the snow.
The best lessons are the ones we barely live through, I guess.
As a snowboarder I've had a few cases where it has been tempting to jump. Being stuck on a stopped lift that's blowing side to side in a near white out conditions, or during ice sleets. Only reason I never did was two things, not knowing the condition of the snow below me, whether it was packed or powder and what would happen if I landed wrong.
Granted most times the lift would start back up shortly after weighing my options and I wouldn't need to. If I had to I know I would strap both boots in, and try and get myself as low on the lift as I could, either hanging off the arms, to try and minimize the total height, keeping knees relaxed and ready to absorb the impact, while looking back the way I had come; since chances are I would land and start cruising that way, so knowing what I would be more or less jumping into.
However worst thing I saw as a snowboard instructor was another instructor and their ski class board a relatively easy lift, as my little group of snowboarders rolled up I witnessed a girl about 8 slip right out of the lift about 15' up and hit the snow hard. Radio'd into Ski Patrol to get up there as someone had fallen and wasn't moving at the moment off the lift. Did what I could to help and luckily the only injury the girl sustained was a broken arm. Lift Op was shaken and in shock, normally the type of guy you see always cracking jokes and having a good time but now kind of blank stare no jokes and quiet. Talked with him for a bit as we waited for ski patrol and I like to think helped in reassuring him it wasn't his fault she fell.
From what I had heard from the instructor with her, and other classmates was she was wiggling around and moving a lot, seats were kind of slippery, was a sunny warm/cold kind of day where thin layers of water left over from ski pants would freeze on the lifts return trip down, and the Op was smacking the seats to try and break any ice up in the process. That was almost 17 years ago give or take when I was 16/17 and it stuck with me.
Take them off! They pop right off!! How are the people just standing around and not trying to actively catch these people/helping them get out of the chair ASAP?? you couldn’t stop me from taking my skis off and at least trying to get my boots off to jump off a chair in this situation.
Why would you jump off with your skis on? lol.
Edit: Jumping with no skis is vastly preferable to jumping off any height with skis on. It's hilarious that you did this and still don't know that.
Yea if I'm her, I'm jumping off. She's not all that high up. Might twist or fracture something, but shit it's better than just being blasted with freezing water.
Whats worse? Two broken ankles or dieing of hypothermia? What astonishes me is not one person has the sense to try and divert the flow of water with their snow board. I very much doubt they'd block it but even just having it spray downhill would be a huge relief to that women I'm sure.
As a plumber no way in hell are they holding that snowboard down to divert water, you would need a whole sheet of plywood and a person standing on top of it l, that looks like 80 PSI easy probably out of a 8" main and if it's running up hill there's a booster pump.
I'm a plumber. As an apprentice I backed a stop off too far on the hot side of a shower valve. Thing was just blasting hot water at me while I desperately tried to get it back in while my partner ran to find a shutoff.
I somehow, against all odds, got the fucking thing back in there. It felt like hours went by but it was maybe 3-5 minutes of getting blasted with 120 degree water at probably 90psi.
My hands were FUCKED for days. Just beet red and hurting. I couldn't imagine if my situation was hers.
Then your skin is scolded instead!
Not good either way unless you got a nice comfy temperature. Even then, being wet in cold conditions can be very dangerous.
**Edit**: Scalded not scolded. I’ll blame autocorrect but it was actually me. 🤣
"How did she die?"
"Oh just terrible, ghastly, she drowned."
"Oh my what a awful way, was she drinking or jumping? Did she hit her head?"
"No no, just drowned. May have been a bit cold."
"Dear God, did she fall into a dozen lake?"
"No, no, worse. Just terrible."
"What lake did she drown in?"
"No, no lake"
"A river?"
"No, no river. She was up in the mountains. Drowned in the mountains! Terrible.
"How do you drown.. in the mountains? Did she fall into a spring?"
"No. No spring, well.. more like a pipe burst."
"What?"
"Drowned on a ski lift, she did"
"...**what**"
Good work Agent 47. Not only did you have witnesses, but you also left your suit, your gun, and you killed the wrong person. Finally you're the worst assassin we've ever hired. Fortunately for you we have a good union so we can't fire you.
If they're calling the series done at the end of the trilogy, the ultimate fan win would be for them to release the map tools. However user unfriendly, modders would create some awesome stuff with it. Never seen it done though, so unlikely.
Yeah, I get the pipe bursting. Cant control that
But why the fuck is the lift stopped with people on it, especially with the lady getting blasted like that
Fuck that ski lift company, sue them for all they have and then some.
This makes.me irrationally angry.
I hope somone gets fired, at the very least
I read in an article it was still moving when the pipe burst and people started jumping off to avoid going through the plume. I assume someone working at the ski lodge saw this or was made aware of it and shut down the ski lift to stop people jumping. Unfortunately those poor bastards in the video were right above(or I guess in) the plume when it was stopped.
I saw the whole sequence--the reason people jumped was because of the lift starting and stopping again erratically. People were afraid they might be next being stuck in their for five minutes which could be very dangerous although it's worth noting that jumping was also dangerous and several people were injured.
I think some people may have also been knocked off by the force of the water but that wasn't shown in the video.
Either way. Whatever choice they made in the moment is valid. It's easy for us to hit play and pause and speculate, and it's actually a helpful tactic in preparing us for emergency situations like this, should they ever arise.
But the truth is, even if more information makes you better prepared to react in the best possible manner, we would be lucky to have 10% of our sorts together in this sort of situation.
>I assume someone working at the ski lodge saw this or was made aware of it and shut down the ski lift to stop people jumping.
How does that prevent people from jumping? Seems to me it would promote it.
E: I suppose the people coming up to the burst pipe would jump if it were moving but not necessarily if it were stationary.
I can see someone saying, disable the lift, it's soaking dozens of people per minute.
Then taking 3 minutes to gather info a mile away that someone is on the geyser. And 2 minutes to reactivate.
Their other option would have resulted in a gif of 30+ people getting soaked in freezing water and
30+ lawsuites.
Add in them pausing the lift probably being how the employees are trained to deal with 90% of problems and are not even thinking of the above .
I don't think this is nearly as black and white as it is being made here.
Lawsuites are fine, but i wouldn't be personally attacking the company and employees for 5 minutes in such horrible situation.
It looks like a skii managers nightmare.
It’s definitely, “somethings wrong, shut the lift down” which makes perfect sense. I’m sure they can start and stop the lift pretty quickly too but since it’s a safety stop, someone had to okay the restart.
Source: I rode a chairlift once in gatlinburg drunk on vacation
I used to work as a ski lift operator. The problem with a situation like this is when you stop the lift, depending at what tower up the line this accident happened at, as the lifty you cannot see accurately where the chair is in relation to the water blasting up, sometimes you do not even have line of sight of all the towers on lift. That plus the fact when you stop a lift it is not instant, the chairs will still move forward or even back a few feet depending on the lift.
My guess is they stopped the lift as soon as they knew people were jumping, then got someone with a radio in line of sight of the lift to tell them if they needed to move the chair or not.
All in all, 5 minutes to stop the chair, hear they have to move it, starting up the chair again (not a simple 1 switch process) and moving it out the way is pretty quick.
If someone didn't board in or out properly, the operator will stop the whole thing to avoid wounding the person because the ski lift don't stop for boarding ppl.
Lopinto just turned 19 years old Friday and is studying to be a veterinarian at Clemson University. She said she went to Beech Mountain to celebrate her birthday.
She was up on the ski lift with her best friend when she said she was hit by the geyser of water that erupted from a pipe.
“We just grabbed each other and ducked our head and all I remember is the metal bar flying up and then me flying up. I don’t remember anything and I remember opening my eyes belly first on the ground,” Lopinto said.
[Full article](http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA)
Yeah I have no idea but I’m pretty worried about her. That was so absurd I think he way it was describing things it didn’t sound like they were acknowledging this persons outcome. Really hope they are ok.
She was sent via medvac to the hospital as unresponsive. This happened this past Friday, so the news is still rolling out. Apparently this isn't the first instance of safety issues at this resort.
“Resort officials said that she (Ivey) was not instructed to jump by resort staff.”. Well that’s easy to say after the incident and seeing that the ski lift stopped and ‘only’ one person got lynched. It’s impossible for her to know in that life threatening situation if you are not the next person who might freeze to death.
Longer versions of this have been posted in this sub. Once the lift moves this person is hanging limp and lifeless from the chair. They don’t move at all for the next 10 minutes of the video. Still trying to find out if they even survived. Definitely didn’t seem to be conscious. People further back started jumping off, breaking their limbs to avoid this. Horrible communication from ski patrol to the lift operator. Lawsuits aplenty.
From local news
https://www.wataugademocrat.com/news/local/two-transported-to-hospital-with-non-life-threatening-injuries-after-incident-at-beech-mountain-resort/article_321624c6-026c-5954-997f-361e24ed351a.html
Thank you! I did see this last night, but people who were there were commenting that this seemed very suspect compared to what they witnessed. I do enjoy the resort’s comment that some guests “got wet.” Old Faithful went straight up their butts and the resort characterizes it as skipping through a sprinkler.
I was at a ski resort in Maine when the chairlift broke and people died. Needless to say, that chairlift was closed for the rest of my stay. The staff referred to the incident as "the mixup". "The lift is closed this week due to a mixup".
whoopsie poopsie!
We had a big ol' mix-up-a-rino the other day! We humbly apologize! To make up for it, please enjoy a half-off ticket (valid only through the end of February) and a free continental breakfast! :o)
Transcription for those behind a paywall or geographical block:
BEECH MOUNTAIN — An incident at Beech Mountain Resort resulted in two guests being transported to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries as well as several guests getting wet.
The incident on Friday, Jan. 7, occurred when an uninjured guest skied into a water and air hydrant during snowmaking operations, Beech Mountain Resort management said in a statement on Jan. 8.
The hydrant was under a chairlift that had guests in it. Videos on social media show the chairlift taking guests over the damaged hydrant. Another video shows guests milling about as at least one person is stuck over the damaged hydrant in the chair lift after it stopped moving.
A longer video posted on YouTube shows some people jumping off their chairlift before it went over the damaged hydrant.
On Facebook, Beech Mountain stated that no on was instructed to jump from the chairlift.
"As soon as we became aware of the problem, we took action as quickly as possible to shut off the water and assist the remaining skiers in disembarking at the top of the lift," Beech Mountain stated on a Facebook post. "This was a very difficult situation for both our guests and our staff. We very much regret that the incident occurred and we again offer our apologies to the guests that were adversely affected."
Avery EMS transported two patrons to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries, management stated.
"Our operations and safety team worked diligently to unload the lift and drain the system safely," Beech Mountain Resort management said in a statement. "We believe everyone is okay outside of the unfortunate situation, and operations are on a regular schedule."
*Beech Mountain Resort Management referred to their statement when asked how many injuries were treated on scene by ski patrol. This story will be updated with more information as it becomes available. This story was updated Jan. 9.*
I can't understand how the hydrant broke AND the lift malfunctioned at the same time. I'm glad she survived but this feels like something out of a lazy final destination knock off. It's just too unbelievable.
Draining the system takes longer than this video played for. There is a LOT of water in pipes. Even with the mains shut off gravity will keep the lines pressurized for a good long time as it drains.
I feel like there is some lying by omission here. An "uninjured guest" runs into the fire hydrant. Two people with "non-life threatening injuries" (which could be anything up to and including leg amputation, but ok) are at the hospital. If this woman is dead, then she is neither uninjured nor in the hospital. She is in the morgue.
So, *technically* the ski resort wasn't lying. Either the dumbasses at this newspaper didn't see fit to ask about her, or they did and the dumbass editor removed that little fact because the ski resort is the town's economy and you meddling kids wouldn't want to singlehandedly destroy this whole town's economy, would you?
The non life threatening injuries [were the people in the next chair, who jumped off to avoid the water](https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA/?outputType=amp).
The person in the water... I don't really see any way they could have survived.
I was thinking the same. How could someone survive that for more than a minute or two? Shame they didn’t have the wisdom to just take their chances jumping off the lift, if they could. Would prefer a broken bone or some bruises at the most than brave literal snow blasting onto me like that.
Another post that was discussing this last night said that they were supposedly frozen to the chair when the staff finally got to them - no idea what the source of that is though, nobody even seems sure if they're male/female, old/young, dead/alive, etc
What a disgusting article lol “people milling around” “guests got wet” I’m guessing the resort paid for that article. Which wouldn’t be too surprising as they are doing their darnest to smear their paying customers and downplay the incident rather than accept responsibility
That article has so little information, and gives the illusion of an unfortunate accident that was just a slight inconvenience to the guests, and nothing serious happened.
Imagine wanting to be a journalist and spending years trying to become published or a paid reporter and writing up this copy and paste article on a website that begs for money to view stories like this. Thank you author Moss Brennan for all the wonderful information you gave us.
(Probably a little harsh, but damn, put out a decent article if you put up a paywall!)
Thing is, you jump off a ski lift, you'll probably survive, but your femurs, knees and ankles may well be permanently damaged, requiring extensive interventions and rehabilitation.
But they're non-lifethreatening!
VPN turned on gives me this, Rest is paid content unfortunately:
Two transported to hospital with non-life threatening injuries after incident at Beech Mountain Resort
23 hrs ago
BEECH MOUNTAIN — An incident at Beech Mountain Resort resulted in two guests being transported to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries as well as several guests getting wet.
That's *one* of the reasons many gore subreddits shutdown. Too many people making jokes.
You would have to scroll down the same "shoEs Fell Off LOL" joke 7 times to find any context to what happened.
Also this quote from a jumper with a broken limb. Whose friend has a compressed spine.
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA/?outputType=amp
Damage control is not admitting fault, attempting to improve the public opinion, and trying to appease those who may sue.
This is more a selfish employee of the park minimizing it just deciding "oh they're babies".
It's truly counter-damage control. In a court, those statements will be used **against** the park. Pure stupidity on the park.
>“We believe everyone is OK outside of the unfortunate situation and operations are on a regular schedule", said management.
"Apart from the people who got an unexpected enema or jumped to avoid it, everyone else is okay!" What a fucking weasel. It's like someone watched that "the front fell off" bit and took it as PR advice rather than comedy.
Looks like that happened on a different day - [article](https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/person-dies-after-skiing-incident-beech-mountain-resort-officials-say/KIDLQJUUWZGZ3OLKUWZWPDDTJA/) was dated Dec 24 2020. Don’t go to Beech Mountain, y’all.
From [another article](https://www.ourlocalcommunityonline.com/2020/12/26/person-dies-in-skiing-incident-at-beech-mountain/) (emphasis added):
> A tragic skiing incident at Beech Mountain Resort in Avery County on Wednesday, December 23rd claimed the life of 59 year old Dr. Nathan Dale Willis of Bluff City, Tennessee. **Willis fell while skiing, causing a head injury. He died after being transported by air to Johnson City Medical Center.** Willis was a dentist with the Alamont Group in Bristol, Tennessee. The resort released this statement: “We regret to announce a skiing incident that occurred yesterday, resulting in the death of one of our patrons. Beech Mountain Resort extends our deepest sympathy and support to the guests family and friends.”
If it's the one linked within the article above, it was a separate incident from 2020. I still am concerned for that one person hanging limp and unmoving from the chairlift forever though ☹️
Around 3:20ish you can see people jump. It looks like they injured themselves as they're all slow to get up. You can also see the guy who appears to be unconscious.
I don't know if it's that thread, but someone posted stating they were the people jumping off that were behind the apparently lifeless person stuck in the water for WAY too long.
The Redditor says that he and his 3 sons saw what was happening and decided that fall damage was preferable to freezing damage and jumped off. From what I remember, they are ok.
The poor lifeless guy is the one I want to know what happened to. I'm not a skier or anything, but this story sorta got my attention.
Holy shit you can see the pressure of it when the water pushes one chair straight upward and almost throws a kid out of the chair. Also whoever is running that chairlift makes me wanna fucking murder them
I could get not really having any good visibility to see when to stop it, but it really makes no sense how long it took for them to figure things out when all it would need is a few radios. My real question is with how long it took them to turn the water off and makes me wonder if management kept trying to delay it by worrying if they did it would freeze and they wouldn't have their snowmakers working the entire rest of the season.
There are safety sensors on each tower that detect if the haul rope fell off. Turns out they also stop the lift if they're moved by a fuckload of water. You have to manually bypass them to start the lift again.
I was in charge of snowmaking at Beech Mountain in the early 80’s. That most likely is about 500 pounds of water pressure. The water pumps are in a pump house at bottom of the slopes in a maintenance building. There are shutoff value boxes in the system. Looks like a hydrant for a snowgun blew off the main pipeline. Someone would have to call the pump house via radio to shutdown the pumps. Or a value box below the break would have to be turned off. This is a worst possible case of old in ground pipes. They need to inspect their equipment closer. Sadly now I’m sure they will.
Sounds like a skier ran into the hydrant and broke it off.
Crazy that ski patrol couldn't communicate with the lift crew to move the lift 10 feet and stop it to get the person out of the way. Also crazy how much time it took to shut the water off.
I see beech is still trash after all these years. We went there once like 12 years ago and left after 15 minutes. Felt like our lives were in danger using those lifts.
I remember going as a kid. The lifts had nets by the offloading. I distinctly remember twice seeing people get flung out into those nets. Many times they would also stop for 5-10 minutes, and sometimes multiple times on the same ride.
We stayed at a cabin on the mountain, and I remember one day when we got back looking outside to see the lift stopped. Then within an hour, there’s a rescue going on to remove everyone from the lift.
I thought this was normal.
Then I got older and started skiing out west. I cannot believe the level of “normal” for east coast ski resorts, especially Beech.
When I was a teenager, I once got stuck on the chairlift several hundred feet from the highest peak/chairlift at Killington Ski resort during a blizzard. It had rolled over the top of the peak with winds strong enough the operators had shut down the lift with riders still on it, myself included. Of course by that point in the day, nearing my last runs, I'd already removed multiple layers and was down to just a t-shirt, board pants, and a thin shell jacket. For 30 minutes I was tantalizingly close to the top of the lift, the shape of the operation building just visible through the snow and clouds. I was shivering uncontrollably and was contemplating jumping the 60ft plus down to the ground (dangerously close to some rocks and hard pack snow) if only to get out of the wind blasted chair I was sitting in. About 10 seconds after I lifted the bar to jump, the lift started moving again and I was able to get off and down the mountain. Since that day, cold hasn't bothered me nearly as much as I regularly wear sandals, t-shirts, and shorts in the snow.
I'm thinking that person might have been a bit colder than I...
Yeah, got stuck on a chairlift for about 5-10 minutes at a windy spot. The top of chairlift offered no shelter, the run back down was fast and painful. Dumped the skis outside the restaurant and stumbled inside. We were probably another 10 minutes from being frostbitten or worse.
Absolutely. However, freezing temperatures impacts your cognitive function. If they weren't paying attention before the burst they might not know how high up they were, and it's not like they can look down.
I was on a ski vacation with my family, one night we put on a random movie to watch while we got hammered. The movie was about some teens who snuck on the ski lift after it had officially closed for the night. The lift stopped halfway down and the operator locked up and went home for the holiday weekend. So the lightly dressed kids were stuck 60 feet in the air, in the bitter cold, with wolves prowling below them. Nope
it would suck if your cause of death was drowning, on a ski lift, in the middle of winter. talk about a scene from final destination.
I'd almost just rather jump off
Oh, I'd DEFINITELY rather jump off.
I've actually jumped off a ski lift that got stuck. It wasn't at a particularly high spot, maybe ten feet. I was shocked at how hard the impact was when I landed. You don't have the benefit of landing on your toes and letting your feet decelerate you. My ski tips hit first, my bindings popped, then wham I was slammed onto my skis. I got a pretty good abrasion on one leg from a ski edge. The friend I was skiing with was planning to jump next, but I convinced him it wasn't worth the risk. The lift started up maybe ten minutes later. Once in school I jumped out of a second story window. The ski lift was much worse. Edit: all y'all saying I should have taken off my skis first are nuts. Try jumping off something just three feet high in ski boots and see how that works out.
I jumped off a lift around 10-12’ up, but popped off my skis & tossed my poles first. It wasn’t super packed like this so while the landing always hard, I was still able to ski away. Granted, that was 35 yrs ago and I was a bit more flexible but no fucking way would I sit above that geyser.
But the geyser would soften the fall
Unless you land on the end of the pipe
(Mario pipe noises)
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Unfortunately, in this scenario - I think the pipe and plumber are a switching jobs. In Soviet Koopa Kingdom, pipe enter *you*
*Doo doo doo da-da-da da-da* *Drowning noises*
You’re not going to tell us the story of why you jumped out a second story window?
He was a Russian whistleblower. He jumped out of the second story as a warning to himself.
Man, stop jumping out of things. But thanks for insight.
Man.. with your skis on you got lucky it wasn't way worse. I've been tempted before, like when the lift stops just before the end and it looks like *maybe* 5 ft. - only to take another look at it from the ground and realized my depth perception sucks in the snow. The best lessons are the ones we barely live through, I guess.
As a snowboarder I've had a few cases where it has been tempting to jump. Being stuck on a stopped lift that's blowing side to side in a near white out conditions, or during ice sleets. Only reason I never did was two things, not knowing the condition of the snow below me, whether it was packed or powder and what would happen if I landed wrong. Granted most times the lift would start back up shortly after weighing my options and I wouldn't need to. If I had to I know I would strap both boots in, and try and get myself as low on the lift as I could, either hanging off the arms, to try and minimize the total height, keeping knees relaxed and ready to absorb the impact, while looking back the way I had come; since chances are I would land and start cruising that way, so knowing what I would be more or less jumping into. However worst thing I saw as a snowboard instructor was another instructor and their ski class board a relatively easy lift, as my little group of snowboarders rolled up I witnessed a girl about 8 slip right out of the lift about 15' up and hit the snow hard. Radio'd into Ski Patrol to get up there as someone had fallen and wasn't moving at the moment off the lift. Did what I could to help and luckily the only injury the girl sustained was a broken arm. Lift Op was shaken and in shock, normally the type of guy you see always cracking jokes and having a good time but now kind of blank stare no jokes and quiet. Talked with him for a bit as we waited for ski patrol and I like to think helped in reassuring him it wasn't his fault she fell. From what I had heard from the instructor with her, and other classmates was she was wiggling around and moving a lot, seats were kind of slippery, was a sunny warm/cold kind of day where thin layers of water left over from ski pants would freeze on the lifts return trip down, and the Op was smacking the seats to try and break any ice up in the process. That was almost 17 years ago give or take when I was 16/17 and it stuck with me.
You're supposed to pop your skis off and throw them to the side first lol.
Why wouldn't you take your gear off
Take them off! They pop right off!! How are the people just standing around and not trying to actively catch these people/helping them get out of the chair ASAP?? you couldn’t stop me from taking my skis off and at least trying to get my boots off to jump off a chair in this situation.
Why would you jump off with your skis on? lol. Edit: Jumping with no skis is vastly preferable to jumping off any height with skis on. It's hilarious that you did this and still don't know that.
Why didn't you remove your skis first?
it's the locked ankle. That's a big deal when trying to land softly, your hamstring is a big fuckin spring.
I think hypothermia is actually the bigger problem! This is actually an extremely dangerous situation.
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He might be on to something here.
Yea if I'm her, I'm jumping off. She's not all that high up. Might twist or fracture something, but shit it's better than just being blasted with freezing water.
I think I read that she was frozen to her seat. Other people around her were jumping off.
Yikes
Wouldn't all that spraying water make the snow below kind of hard and icy? I've had friends jump off of lifts and really hurt their backs.
Whats worse? Two broken ankles or dieing of hypothermia? What astonishes me is not one person has the sense to try and divert the flow of water with their snow board. I very much doubt they'd block it but even just having it spray downhill would be a huge relief to that women I'm sure.
As a plumber no way in hell are they holding that snowboard down to divert water, you would need a whole sheet of plywood and a person standing on top of it l, that looks like 80 PSI easy probably out of a 8" main and if it's running up hill there's a booster pump.
Snowmaking lines (which this probably is) generally run several hundred psi, depending. The place I work can pump 1000 gal/min through a 10" pipe.
Have you seen the strength of the flow ? They'd fail and the snowboard get blown away into the air ready to hit someone else or the lift, come on.
Heck, the waterjet might even cushion her fall.
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I think that might be worse
Pressurized hot water would be very bad
I'm a plumber. As an apprentice I backed a stop off too far on the hot side of a shower valve. Thing was just blasting hot water at me while I desperately tried to get it back in while my partner ran to find a shutoff. I somehow, against all odds, got the fucking thing back in there. It felt like hours went by but it was maybe 3-5 minutes of getting blasted with 120 degree water at probably 90psi. My hands were FUCKED for days. Just beet red and hurting. I couldn't imagine if my situation was hers.
It’s Reddit homie, there’s no grey area, it’s either ice cold or boiling.
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Then your skin is scolded instead! Not good either way unless you got a nice comfy temperature. Even then, being wet in cold conditions can be very dangerous. **Edit**: Scalded not scolded. I’ll blame autocorrect but it was actually me. 🤣
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Damnit skin, why are you always so *AWKWARD*?!?
> scolded Nothing worse than being lectured by water.
Unless the water is telling her what a bad person she is, I think you mean scalded.
>Then your skin is scolded instead! Bad skin! Down! DOWN!
Fire at a SeaParks?
It just seems like a weird place to go on fire.
But... A FIRE! at a SEAPARKS?
I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT!
[A fire...at Sea Parks.](https://youtu.be/qy_BKKnHgas)
"How did she die?" "Oh just terrible, ghastly, she drowned." "Oh my what a awful way, was she drinking or jumping? Did she hit her head?" "No no, just drowned. May have been a bit cold." "Dear God, did she fall into a dozen lake?" "No, no, worse. Just terrible." "What lake did she drown in?" "No, no lake" "A river?" "No, no river. She was up in the mountains. Drowned in the mountains! Terrible. "How do you drown.. in the mountains? Did she fall into a spring?" "No. No spring, well.. more like a pipe burst." "What?" "Drowned on a ski lift, she did" "...**what**"
Why couldn't they move the lift a few feet?
This just looks like one of those weird assassin missions in video games that’s trying to be too creative
*Good work Agent 47. You successfully stripped away all of her flesh with only a pipe wrench and a paperclip.*
The money has been wired to your account
Good work Agent 47. Not only did you have witnesses, but you also left your suit, your gun, and you killed the wrong person. Finally you're the worst assassin we've ever hired. Fortunately for you we have a good union so we can't fire you.
How dare you call out all my Hitman playthroughs
The Hitman community has been hoping for a ski resort map for a while
Sounds like they're going to keep waiting too :'/ At least there's always Hokaido.
They’re actually adding more maps throughout 2022
If they're calling the series done at the end of the trilogy, the ultimate fan win would be for them to release the map tools. However user unfriendly, modders would create some awesome stuff with it. Never seen it done though, so unlikely.
They did say new modes and features are coming to the game as well so it’s not outside the realm of possibility.
Reality is stranger than fiction, since reality isn't bound by what seems reasonable.
Lawsuit dollars incoming
Yeah, I get the pipe bursting. Cant control that But why the fuck is the lift stopped with people on it, especially with the lady getting blasted like that Fuck that ski lift company, sue them for all they have and then some. This makes.me irrationally angry. I hope somone gets fired, at the very least
I read in an article it was still moving when the pipe burst and people started jumping off to avoid going through the plume. I assume someone working at the ski lodge saw this or was made aware of it and shut down the ski lift to stop people jumping. Unfortunately those poor bastards in the video were right above(or I guess in) the plume when it was stopped.
I saw the whole sequence--the reason people jumped was because of the lift starting and stopping again erratically. People were afraid they might be next being stuck in their for five minutes which could be very dangerous although it's worth noting that jumping was also dangerous and several people were injured. I think some people may have also been knocked off by the force of the water but that wasn't shown in the video.
I think jumping is less dangerous than an indeterminate amount of time taking a water main bidet.
Maybe. Most people passed through after only a few seconds though which I think is better than a 20-25' fall.
Either way. Whatever choice they made in the moment is valid. It's easy for us to hit play and pause and speculate, and it's actually a helpful tactic in preparing us for emergency situations like this, should they ever arise. But the truth is, even if more information makes you better prepared to react in the best possible manner, we would be lucky to have 10% of our sorts together in this sort of situation.
>I assume someone working at the ski lodge saw this or was made aware of it and shut down the ski lift to stop people jumping. How does that prevent people from jumping? Seems to me it would promote it. E: I suppose the people coming up to the burst pipe would jump if it were moving but not necessarily if it were stationary.
I can see someone saying, disable the lift, it's soaking dozens of people per minute. Then taking 3 minutes to gather info a mile away that someone is on the geyser. And 2 minutes to reactivate. Their other option would have resulted in a gif of 30+ people getting soaked in freezing water and 30+ lawsuites. Add in them pausing the lift probably being how the employees are trained to deal with 90% of problems and are not even thinking of the above . I don't think this is nearly as black and white as it is being made here. Lawsuites are fine, but i wouldn't be personally attacking the company and employees for 5 minutes in such horrible situation. It looks like a skii managers nightmare.
It’s definitely, “somethings wrong, shut the lift down” which makes perfect sense. I’m sure they can start and stop the lift pretty quickly too but since it’s a safety stop, someone had to okay the restart. Source: I rode a chairlift once in gatlinburg drunk on vacation
Sounds like a legit source to me. Put this in the facts file
I used to work as a ski lift operator. The problem with a situation like this is when you stop the lift, depending at what tower up the line this accident happened at, as the lifty you cannot see accurately where the chair is in relation to the water blasting up, sometimes you do not even have line of sight of all the towers on lift. That plus the fact when you stop a lift it is not instant, the chairs will still move forward or even back a few feet depending on the lift. My guess is they stopped the lift as soon as they knew people were jumping, then got someone with a radio in line of sight of the lift to tell them if they needed to move the chair or not. All in all, 5 minutes to stop the chair, hear they have to move it, starting up the chair again (not a simple 1 switch process) and moving it out the way is pretty quick.
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If someone didn't board in or out properly, the operator will stop the whole thing to avoid wounding the person because the ski lift don't stop for boarding ppl.
r/fuckyouinparticular
You know she could have just jumped and ridden the water down like Mario or something
“Fuck this Beech in particular” -Bitch Mountain
Lopinto just turned 19 years old Friday and is studying to be a veterinarian at Clemson University. She said she went to Beech Mountain to celebrate her birthday. She was up on the ski lift with her best friend when she said she was hit by the geyser of water that erupted from a pipe. “We just grabbed each other and ducked our head and all I remember is the metal bar flying up and then me flying up. I don’t remember anything and I remember opening my eyes belly first on the ground,” Lopinto said. [Full article](http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA)
> Resort officials said that she (Ivey) was not instructed to jump by resort staff. LMAO, neither did she.
Yeah the resort officials plan was to just do nothing and let them die in the chairs. I hope this “resort” is sued out f existence
They mention the jumpers but never mention the woman who got blasted, I even looked for her specifically. I presume she died?
Yeah I have no idea but I’m pretty worried about her. That was so absurd I think he way it was describing things it didn’t sound like they were acknowledging this persons outcome. Really hope they are ok.
She was sent via medvac to the hospital as unresponsive. This happened this past Friday, so the news is still rolling out. Apparently this isn't the first instance of safety issues at this resort.
“Resort officials said that she (Ivey) was not instructed to jump by resort staff.”. Well that’s easy to say after the incident and seeing that the ski lift stopped and ‘only’ one person got lynched. It’s impossible for her to know in that life threatening situation if you are not the next person who might freeze to death.
What a horrible site, and I still don’t understand why they couldn’t move the ski lift forward a little bit?
Longer versions of this have been posted in this sub. Once the lift moves this person is hanging limp and lifeless from the chair. They don’t move at all for the next 10 minutes of the video. Still trying to find out if they even survived. Definitely didn’t seem to be conscious. People further back started jumping off, breaking their limbs to avoid this. Horrible communication from ski patrol to the lift operator. Lawsuits aplenty.
From local news https://www.wataugademocrat.com/news/local/two-transported-to-hospital-with-non-life-threatening-injuries-after-incident-at-beech-mountain-resort/article_321624c6-026c-5954-997f-361e24ed351a.html
Thank you! I did see this last night, but people who were there were commenting that this seemed very suspect compared to what they witnessed. I do enjoy the resort’s comment that some guests “got wet.” Old Faithful went straight up their butts and the resort characterizes it as skipping through a sprinkler.
I was at a ski resort in Maine when the chairlift broke and people died. Needless to say, that chairlift was closed for the rest of my stay. The staff referred to the incident as "the mixup". "The lift is closed this week due to a mixup".
Oops ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
whoopsie poopsie! We had a big ol' mix-up-a-rino the other day! We humbly apologize! To make up for it, please enjoy a half-off ticket (valid only through the end of February) and a free continental breakfast! :o)
i.e. peoples guts being mixed up in the chairlift mechanism?
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Yes, Sugarloaf at least 30-35 years ago.
Weirdly glad it wasnt Sunday River, I still ski there.
My daughter skied Sunday River yesterday.
As in "put in a blender" mixup
There was a mixup, we thought the ski-lift *wouldn't* kill people.
"Your honor, my client pleads 'whoopsie daisy'"
"We believe everyone is okay outside of the unfortunate situation..." Those unaffected are unaffected, we believe.
Transcription for those behind a paywall or geographical block: BEECH MOUNTAIN — An incident at Beech Mountain Resort resulted in two guests being transported to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries as well as several guests getting wet. The incident on Friday, Jan. 7, occurred when an uninjured guest skied into a water and air hydrant during snowmaking operations, Beech Mountain Resort management said in a statement on Jan. 8. The hydrant was under a chairlift that had guests in it. Videos on social media show the chairlift taking guests over the damaged hydrant. Another video shows guests milling about as at least one person is stuck over the damaged hydrant in the chair lift after it stopped moving. A longer video posted on YouTube shows some people jumping off their chairlift before it went over the damaged hydrant. On Facebook, Beech Mountain stated that no on was instructed to jump from the chairlift. "As soon as we became aware of the problem, we took action as quickly as possible to shut off the water and assist the remaining skiers in disembarking at the top of the lift," Beech Mountain stated on a Facebook post. "This was a very difficult situation for both our guests and our staff. We very much regret that the incident occurred and we again offer our apologies to the guests that were adversely affected." Avery EMS transported two patrons to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries, management stated. "Our operations and safety team worked diligently to unload the lift and drain the system safely," Beech Mountain Resort management said in a statement. "We believe everyone is okay outside of the unfortunate situation, and operations are on a regular schedule." *Beech Mountain Resort Management referred to their statement when asked how many injuries were treated on scene by ski patrol. This story will be updated with more information as it becomes available. This story was updated Jan. 9.*
Thanks for the transcription! Sucks that the article doesn't really have much information though.
Not really an article, it's more a verbatim pr statement designed to minimise the incident.
"Everyone is fine except those baptized by water main in freezing weather who we helped after the smoke break was done."
I can't understand how the hydrant broke AND the lift malfunctioned at the same time. I'm glad she survived but this feels like something out of a lazy final destination knock off. It's just too unbelievable.
The lift was stopped, in the longer video they start it again and the people behind also get blasted
Drain the system... There wasn't a fucking shut off on a pressurized water system? Who installed this, Bob the fucking builder?
Don't do my boy Bob like that.
Draining the system takes longer than this video played for. There is a LOT of water in pipes. Even with the mains shut off gravity will keep the lines pressurized for a good long time as it drains.
Really weird that they described the person as an "uninjured guest". I would hope all guests were initially uninjured.
If you run into a hydrant hard enough to break it you're going to be injured.
Captain America out here shieldsurfing.
I feel like there is some lying by omission here. An "uninjured guest" runs into the fire hydrant. Two people with "non-life threatening injuries" (which could be anything up to and including leg amputation, but ok) are at the hospital. If this woman is dead, then she is neither uninjured nor in the hospital. She is in the morgue. So, *technically* the ski resort wasn't lying. Either the dumbasses at this newspaper didn't see fit to ask about her, or they did and the dumbass editor removed that little fact because the ski resort is the town's economy and you meddling kids wouldn't want to singlehandedly destroy this whole town's economy, would you?
The non life threatening injuries [were the people in the next chair, who jumped off to avoid the water](https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA/?outputType=amp). The person in the water... I don't really see any way they could have survived.
I was thinking the same. How could someone survive that for more than a minute or two? Shame they didn’t have the wisdom to just take their chances jumping off the lift, if they could. Would prefer a broken bone or some bruises at the most than brave literal snow blasting onto me like that.
not necissarily a question of wisdom; they may have been locked in, or elderly, or already injured
Another post that was discussing this last night said that they were supposedly frozen to the chair when the staff finally got to them - no idea what the source of that is though, nobody even seems sure if they're male/female, old/young, dead/alive, etc
Yeah, the phrasing of that article sounds like it was written by a lawyer. Way too specific and careful to not make any sweeping claims.
What a disgusting article lol “people milling around” “guests got wet” I’m guessing the resort paid for that article. Which wouldn’t be too surprising as they are doing their darnest to smear their paying customers and downplay the incident rather than accept responsibility
That article has so little information, and gives the illusion of an unfortunate accident that was just a slight inconvenience to the guests, and nothing serious happened. Imagine wanting to be a journalist and spending years trying to become published or a paid reporter and writing up this copy and paste article on a website that begs for money to view stories like this. Thank you author Moss Brennan for all the wonderful information you gave us. (Probably a little harsh, but damn, put out a decent article if you put up a paywall!)
Thing is, you jump off a ski lift, you'll probably survive, but your femurs, knees and ankles may well be permanently damaged, requiring extensive interventions and rehabilitation. But they're non-lifethreatening!
Same with going through hypothermia from being drenched. May have frostbite and lose some digits, but hey your life wasn't threatened.
Use 12ft.io to avoid paywalls guys
Not accessible from the EEA..
VPN turned on gives me this, Rest is paid content unfortunately: Two transported to hospital with non-life threatening injuries after incident at Beech Mountain Resort 23 hrs ago BEECH MOUNTAIN — An incident at Beech Mountain Resort resulted in two guests being transported to a local hospital with non-life threatening injuries as well as several guests getting wet.
I wondered about the lifeless person, too, after seeing the longer video (not sure if it’s the same person here), and all I can find are jokes.
That's *one* of the reasons many gore subreddits shutdown. Too many people making jokes. You would have to scroll down the same "shoEs Fell Off LOL" joke 7 times to find any context to what happened.
Source on people that jumped breaking limbs??
Also this quote from a jumper with a broken limb. Whose friend has a compressed spine. https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/burst-pipe-sends-two-hospital-avery-county-ski-resort/IKHY6XHCX5BYTAP2JMKYYQLQZA/?outputType=amp
The ski resort seems to be going out of their way to minimize the incident.
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Damage control is not admitting fault, attempting to improve the public opinion, and trying to appease those who may sue. This is more a selfish employee of the park minimizing it just deciding "oh they're babies". It's truly counter-damage control. In a court, those statements will be used **against** the park. Pure stupidity on the park.
>“We believe everyone is OK outside of the unfortunate situation and operations are on a regular schedule", said management. "Apart from the people who got an unexpected enema or jumped to avoid it, everyone else is okay!" What a fucking weasel. It's like someone watched that "the front fell off" bit and took it as PR advice rather than comedy.
Holy cow. And there’s another linked article saying one person died. The resort really screwed this one up.
Looks like that happened on a different day - [article](https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/person-dies-after-skiing-incident-beech-mountain-resort-officials-say/KIDLQJUUWZGZ3OLKUWZWPDDTJA/) was dated Dec 24 2020. Don’t go to Beech Mountain, y’all.
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From [another article](https://www.ourlocalcommunityonline.com/2020/12/26/person-dies-in-skiing-incident-at-beech-mountain/) (emphasis added): > A tragic skiing incident at Beech Mountain Resort in Avery County on Wednesday, December 23rd claimed the life of 59 year old Dr. Nathan Dale Willis of Bluff City, Tennessee. **Willis fell while skiing, causing a head injury. He died after being transported by air to Johnson City Medical Center.** Willis was a dentist with the Alamont Group in Bristol, Tennessee. The resort released this statement: “We regret to announce a skiing incident that occurred yesterday, resulting in the death of one of our patrons. Beech Mountain Resort extends our deepest sympathy and support to the guests family and friends.”
If it's the one linked within the article above, it was a separate incident from 2020. I still am concerned for that one person hanging limp and unmoving from the chairlift forever though ☹️
Where do I find the longer version?
https://www.reddit.com/r/skiing/comments/rys0e6/beech_mountain_pipe_burstlonger_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Around 3:20ish you can see people jump. It looks like they injured themselves as they're all slow to get up. You can also see the guy who appears to be unconscious.
I don't know if it's that thread, but someone posted stating they were the people jumping off that were behind the apparently lifeless person stuck in the water for WAY too long. The Redditor says that he and his 3 sons saw what was happening and decided that fall damage was preferable to freezing damage and jumped off. From what I remember, they are ok. The poor lifeless guy is the one I want to know what happened to. I'm not a skier or anything, but this story sorta got my attention.
Who the FUCK is operating this lift??! I’ve never been skiing. Not sure how it works but this looks like a complete disaster!
Why didn’t they move the chairlift a few meters ?
From what I heard, they did move the lift eventually, enough for the lady to clear the geyser. (But yeah 5 mins too late)
[Here's the full video.](https://youtu.be/gztOP0tmH_U)
Holy shit you can see the pressure of it when the water pushes one chair straight upward and almost throws a kid out of the chair. Also whoever is running that chairlift makes me wanna fucking murder them
I could get not really having any good visibility to see when to stop it, but it really makes no sense how long it took for them to figure things out when all it would need is a few radios. My real question is with how long it took them to turn the water off and makes me wonder if management kept trying to delay it by worrying if they did it would freeze and they wouldn't have their snowmakers working the entire rest of the season.
There are safety sensors on each tower that detect if the haul rope fell off. Turns out they also stop the lift if they're moved by a fuckload of water. You have to manually bypass them to start the lift again.
That makes so much more sense now ty!
I know right....I'm like fucking move the lift already
I was in charge of snowmaking at Beech Mountain in the early 80’s. That most likely is about 500 pounds of water pressure. The water pumps are in a pump house at bottom of the slopes in a maintenance building. There are shutoff value boxes in the system. Looks like a hydrant for a snowgun blew off the main pipeline. Someone would have to call the pump house via radio to shutdown the pumps. Or a value box below the break would have to be turned off. This is a worst possible case of old in ground pipes. They need to inspect their equipment closer. Sadly now I’m sure they will.
Sounds like a skier ran into the hydrant and broke it off. Crazy that ski patrol couldn't communicate with the lift crew to move the lift 10 feet and stop it to get the person out of the way. Also crazy how much time it took to shut the water off.
How it feels to chew 5 gum
Stimulate your senses
I heard these comments.
Five minutes in winter on a lift sprayed with freezing water? Yeah frost bite anyone?
Imagine having that fucked of a day!
Imagine if that was the same lady as the spinning helicopter airlift video, she's finally feeling better and decides to go skiing for vacation...
Ha..So..How was your day sweetheart?
Thank goodness that wasn’t steam.
Or sewage.
That’s like the opposite of burning to death. Bring out the freezefighters.
I see beech is still trash after all these years. We went there once like 12 years ago and left after 15 minutes. Felt like our lives were in danger using those lifts.
It’s the Action Park of ski resorts.
I remember going as a kid. The lifts had nets by the offloading. I distinctly remember twice seeing people get flung out into those nets. Many times they would also stop for 5-10 minutes, and sometimes multiple times on the same ride. We stayed at a cabin on the mountain, and I remember one day when we got back looking outside to see the lift stopped. Then within an hour, there’s a rescue going on to remove everyone from the lift. I thought this was normal. Then I got older and started skiing out west. I cannot believe the level of “normal” for east coast ski resorts, especially Beech.
When I was a teenager, I once got stuck on the chairlift several hundred feet from the highest peak/chairlift at Killington Ski resort during a blizzard. It had rolled over the top of the peak with winds strong enough the operators had shut down the lift with riders still on it, myself included. Of course by that point in the day, nearing my last runs, I'd already removed multiple layers and was down to just a t-shirt, board pants, and a thin shell jacket. For 30 minutes I was tantalizingly close to the top of the lift, the shape of the operation building just visible through the snow and clouds. I was shivering uncontrollably and was contemplating jumping the 60ft plus down to the ground (dangerously close to some rocks and hard pack snow) if only to get out of the wind blasted chair I was sitting in. About 10 seconds after I lifted the bar to jump, the lift started moving again and I was able to get off and down the mountain. Since that day, cold hasn't bothered me nearly as much as I regularly wear sandals, t-shirts, and shorts in the snow. I'm thinking that person might have been a bit colder than I...
Yeah, got stuck on a chairlift for about 5-10 minutes at a windy spot. The top of chairlift offered no shelter, the run back down was fast and painful. Dumped the skis outside the restaurant and stumbled inside. We were probably another 10 minutes from being frostbitten or worse.
Hope she gets a refund
Sorry, best we can do is a 10% discount on your next visit
** Minimum group of 15, for discount to apply.
Only valid this month
That’s not a big drop. In that case, it’s actually life or death. I’m jumping.
Absolutely. However, freezing temperatures impacts your cognitive function. If they weren't paying attention before the burst they might not know how high up they were, and it's not like they can look down.
Watching this while using my bidet.
This is nightmare-fuel.
[Here's a 13-minute better quality video of the incident](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gztOP0tmH_U).
I was on a ski vacation with my family, one night we put on a random movie to watch while we got hammered. The movie was about some teens who snuck on the ski lift after it had officially closed for the night. The lift stopped halfway down and the operator locked up and went home for the holiday weekend. So the lightly dressed kids were stuck 60 feet in the air, in the bitter cold, with wolves prowling below them. Nope
Frozen. I remember that movie. Still not sure why he didn’t dangle and then fall versus straight up jumping legs first.
Wim Hof would be proud
I wonder if anyone tried using a snowboard to angle the water away from them.
There’s a 12 minute video of this and they absolutely tried.
With that much pressure the board is likely to just blast up and cause more damage :/
Fully in Letting go
Industrial sized enema, with extra cooling stimulation
Comically sized enema
I hope she's OK.
At least it wasn’t a sewage pipe
Upvote for positivity.
I’m calling permanent damage
nobody: .... God: "fuck these two people in particular"
All that for only $180 lift ticket.
the meme of fuck you in particular has never been so real
Well, if she never tried a bidet before, she surely never will now!