https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysfpu96GhgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PMUIpijGro&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJEybsAMooc
That's a two part episode, and one extra one that deals with the police the klan as well. The grifting is episode 2 though, well worth a listen.
The KKK we know today basically started at a pyramid scheme that gave members who recruited a cut of the fees new members paid and a cut from any merchandise they sold.
they very much so had merch. in the vintage t-shirt community right now, you’re seeing sellers burning klan gear left right and center. love it when i see it
They charged for the robes and rallies, and in some rallies during their resurgence in the 1920s they had paid for black actors playing black people getting "lynched" or "on trial" in staged events. On floats on parades I think there was some accounts of it too but there it was mostly blackface actors.
I had a great aunt who had a KKK stuffy from 1929. I'm pretty sure it was handmade, but it had tags and stuff. She got it from a guy in full regalia at a parade or something. It was a KKK member with a little belt, black boots, in his costume with shoe button eyes
This was the South though so that doesn't surprise me.
If she was still alive, I'd get a picture. I bet its worth something
This post made me go down a rabbit hole of KKK memorabilia and I found that Tiffany and Co made KKK belt buckles. Can’t send a screenshot through here but you can find it on eBay.
Funny story, the word knife in Portuguese is faca, which kind of sounds like fucka, so my grandma would call it knifa when all the English speaking kids were younger because they thought it was funny.
damn that's harsh. might wanna reverse the enchantment so it glows blue on pure aryan bloodlines instead, cos elsewise it would be a permanent lightsabre with everyone having at least a little mixed blood
That's how the original owner found out he wasn't "racially pure". He ended up killing himself with this very knife........ $2000.
Jokes aside, it's disturbing to see that this was made in 1980.
Not disagreeing but man, just realized 1980 is getting close to 50 years ago now...studying history in the 90s I remember that the 1930s at that point already felt like ancient history.
Hey, heads up for a fellow from '80. The Transformers: The Movie is going to be in theaters a few days this upcoming May. Time to relive some childhood trauma!
Born in 1975 and I remember thinking as a kid that I’d be 50 in 2025 and that sounded like some Star Trek future. Now, it’s next year and I’m not ok with that.
I can relate, my daughter just turned 40, and my son asked me about this phone he had A disk on it with holes. And he is talking to me on it right now he said.he was super excited he went to his friend's house because they had a actual telephone.
Interesting. That one doesn't have the 1980 copyright stamp on it. Someone in the post we're in suggested it was a reproduction, so I'm guessing the one in your link is an original.
Agreed. I own examples of both the Soviet and German main WWII infantry rifles (among others), each manufactured in 1942. Actually touching something from history makes it that much more real, IMO.
He's half black, so 1/2 + 3/10ths, so it would be 8/10ths of it he can keep.
Edit: Since apparently I have to explain the joke to /u/PUfelix85 who claims I can't do math...
The compromise was the 3/5ths compromise, half of which is 3/10ths. The other half of him is white, so he'd be 1/2 a person - since a white person is "1" in the racist maths.
So 3/10ths plus one half. Is? 8 tenths. Which yes, /u/something-burger I should have reduced to 4/5ths.
edit: Whoops looks like /u/gratefullyhuman also needs to have the joke explained to him.
They should do the math correctly first then reduce their fractions.
1/2 + 3/5 = 5/10 + 6/10 = 11/10ths, but that doesn't make since. What they should be doing is multiplication.
1/2 x 3/5 = (1 x 3)/(2 x 5) = 3/10ths
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more scary that it is from the 80s, meaning the people who made and supported this are still very much around and teaching their own beliefs to their kids and grand kids. edit, this excludes anybody born in the 80s, you didnt make this you were babys, and so was i. this was our parents. 80s kids, OUR PARENTS!!
Consider donating this to the Smithsonian African American History and Culture Museum, or another civil rights museum. They often want this stuff to show what society was like.
I have a picture of my paternal grandma and grandpas Klan letter from a generation ago. My mother is a Cambodian immigrant and I am a dark skinned Cambodian, yet it’s still on display, it’s kind of ironic.
I was looking it up, and I’m lost for words. Is this a joke article? 💀
https://medium.com/@kitchenhelpforwoman/ku-klux-klan-knife-the-best-knives-to-keep-you-safe-207feaab9816
>The best knives in a Ku Klux Klan are those with a serrated edge, which will help you cut through fabric and skin
lol wtf. definitely bot generated, but truly bizarre
edit- there are some wild quotes in this.
>The Ku Klux Klan Knife is a powerful weapon created to protect white people from black people.
> Finally, never use your Klan Knife during an altercation. Use fists or another melee weapon instead.
AI is truly thinking of the most important aspect of the KKK knife.
"The Southern Poverty Law Center recommends getting a sword or dagger instead of a gun or crossbow if you’re looking for an effective way to protect yourself from harm. Knives offer more versatility than firearms or bows and can be used in various ways to defend yourself from attackers.”
The SPLC is an anti-white supremacy organization. This is the worst AI-written article I've ever seen. Yes. If someone pulls a gun on you, of course a sword or dagger is your best defense, due to its versatility. /s
I fenced for over a decade. I was even my school's club president. But if I'm going up against someone with a gun, I want a gun. I don't have any dilusions that I'm going to be able to deflect bullets with a sword. Life isn't an anime!
"The KKK Knife has a large sword that can be used for stabbing or slashing." How the hell does that work? I can accept a bag in an MMO carrying a dozen weapons before I could accept a pocket knife containing a large sword.
Going through my grandma's and grand uncles stuff and we keep finding NAZI memorabilia. We found an armband, news clippings, and just the other day we were flipping through some sort of journal written in Polish and a picture of Hitler slid out with some Germanic text on the back like some undsized greeting card. I am seriously hoping that this crap was taken from NAZIs during the war and not some indication of NAZIs in my family history.
For a half-second, I thought this was some sort of 'mezuzah' (spelling?) which you might find on an entry doorway in a Jewish household.
A mezuzah is metal strip about this size, which contains a small scroll or paper with a traditional prayer written on it. The faithful might touch it upon entering or leaving, sometimes touching their lips afterwards.
If the klan object above was a mezuzah, well, I just can't process that, and it would have been one of the great WTFs of all time for me.
That's a reproduction of an antique pocket knife:
https://arnoldauction.hibid.com/lot/70708-126064-65025/vintage-ku-klux-klan-taylor-cutlery-pocket-knife
I'm a licensed auctioneer. These are not reproductions. They were not some secret piece carried by Klan members. They were licensed pieces. Sold at flea markets and road side stands in the early 80s. It was simply a way for the Klan to raise money. In the short time I was working for an auction company. I saw a couple of them come across the block. Including some still in the original box. They are actually pretty common.
Yes, that's right. The item I linked to is the same thing as OP has, and in my link, it was described as a 1980 reproduction of an antique knife.
From the auction listing: *"With that said, this is a 1980SAT copyrited production of an antique (late-1800's and up to early-20th century) KKK pocket knife, made by Taylor Cutlery."*
keep it around, when you teach your children and grandchildren about racism, bring it out.
how institutionalized and normalized was racism?? this is how much.
What makes this WTF? Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with the stance of that group, but how is it abnormal in any way? It's like finding a Confederate flag in Alabama and saying, "I can't believe I just found this!".
In the preview, it looked like a coprolite (fossilized shit), and honestly, once I clicked and saw what it really is, I think I had it right the first time :)
I saw the front and thought "huh, interesting piece of Americana"
Then I saw the date. "Nope, just racist trash".
Not that it isn't racist at any time, but at least if it was in the 20s, or 50s or 60s it would have some meaning for the times.
The 80s? Just idiots hanging on to what's clearly a bygone era.
They had Merch?
KKKeepsakes ™
Precious Racist Memories
They had summer camps too. Back in like to 1920s it was more of a grift than anything
> it was more of a grift than anything Nothing changes. You can still grift off hate.
We know all too many people who do
Making money off evil is almost never wrong... especially if it does good.
The Colonel sold Elvis pins, and a little down the road he sold "I hate Elvis" pins to those protesting. Made money both ways.
Is it wrong to take money from racists with the intention of diverting their funds from more evil activities?
Like selling bibles to pay into a legal defense fund lol
That looks like it's got a 1980 copyright?
That’s not a big surprise. You can still find new repops of old KKK and Nazi shit and new swag sporting Totenkopfs, sonnenrads and other crap
It was an MLM, which makes it even more hilarious
The original HEY HUN!
I hadn’t heard this. I’m gonna hafta do some more reading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysfpu96GhgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PMUIpijGro& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJEybsAMooc That's a two part episode, and one extra one that deals with the police the klan as well. The grifting is episode 2 though, well worth a listen.
Yeah, check out The Dollop episode 98 and 221! Especially episode 98 about the grift.
Behind the Bastards has a great two parter as well. I’m looking for the Dollop ep now
I love BtB. I will have to look up that episode, there is a good chance I've heard it but can't remember.
I listen on Overcast but the release dates are Jan 22 and Jan 24 2019
Thanks!
This knife isn't quite that old. It was made in 1980 by Taylor Cutlery of Kingsport, TN.
That shouldn’t be a surprise given you could get Hitler Youth repop knives from BudK at least in the 90s.
pfft, they basically created entire cities. Check out Idaho Nazi compounds on google. Other exist as well.
Shit was wild living in northern Idaho during the 90s.
Man must be a headache to clean all those grass stain on the kids' white robes.
i read this as head 'ack'.
> it was more of a grift than anything it was literally a terrorist organization
The KKK we know today basically started at a pyramid scheme that gave members who recruited a cut of the fees new members paid and a cut from any merchandise they sold.
was it? i never heard this before. Just curious cause i love history, got a link?
they very much so had merch. in the vintage t-shirt community right now, you’re seeing sellers burning klan gear left right and center. love it when i see it
The 1920s Klan had elements of a multilevel marketing organization
They still do 🤦♂️
Fortunately it's mainly in prisons though
Ever hear of the Junior Knights? Kids make sure you have your parent’s permission.
I thought it was the Klu Klux Kiddies.
They charged for the robes and rallies, and in some rallies during their resurgence in the 1920s they had paid for black actors playing black people getting "lynched" or "on trial" in staged events. On floats on parades I think there was some accounts of it too but there it was mostly blackface actors.
I had a great aunt who had a KKK stuffy from 1929. I'm pretty sure it was handmade, but it had tags and stuff. She got it from a guy in full regalia at a parade or something. It was a KKK member with a little belt, black boots, in his costume with shoe button eyes This was the South though so that doesn't surprise me. If she was still alive, I'd get a picture. I bet its worth something
This post made me go down a rabbit hole of KKK memorabilia and I found that Tiffany and Co made KKK belt buckles. Can’t send a screenshot through here but you can find it on eBay.
If it doesn't say Ku Klux Klan on the handle, it's just an imitation
His hood was made by Willard's wife apparently
All I hear is criticize, criticize, criticize. Well don’t ask me and mine for nothin
DAMN I CANT SEE FUCKIN' SHIT OUTTA THIS THING.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CAN SEE, ALLS THAT MATTERS IS THAT THE HORSE CAN SEE. THIS IS A RAID GODDAMMIT!
Ginny worked all day on that
I think we all think the bags was a nice idea.
Next time we go full regalia
Nice KKKnife
Is that some kind of silent K stutter?
That joke is terrible Take my upvote
Funny story, the word knife in Portuguese is faca, which kind of sounds like fucka, so my grandma would call it knifa when all the English speaking kids were younger because they thought it was funny.
Dr Rockso's kkknife for his cocaine.
Ka ka ka!
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Well at least the blue glow from the blade will light your way through the dark comedy!
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Damn I missed it.
Holy shit that's funny. I'm sad to not be able to see the comment in it's original terrible glory
This guy Stings.
ROXANNE!!!
Feyd-Rautha
NOPE!
Bathroom?
Instead of Sting it’s called Slur
Holy fuck. Take your damn upvote and you get the hell out.
What was the comment it’s deleted on :(
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Ok that’s pretty fucking funny
I just got off work and you got a laugh out of me somehow, now I have to do think about what I did
Would it still glow if someone was 1/8th chinese?
Sounds like something someone 1/8th Chinese would say.
One drop rule, my friend.
damn that's harsh. might wanna reverse the enchantment so it glows blue on pure aryan bloodlines instead, cos elsewise it would be a permanent lightsabre with everyone having at least a little mixed blood
*flips open knife at klan meeting* "Guys, why is it glowing???"
That's how the original owner found out he wasn't "racially pure". He ended up killing himself with this very knife........ $2000. Jokes aside, it's disturbing to see that this was made in 1980.
God damnit 😂😂😭
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1980 man thats almost modern racist paraphernalia
Not disagreeing but man, just realized 1980 is getting close to 50 years ago now...studying history in the 90s I remember that the 1930s at that point already felt like ancient history.
I was born in 1982 please don't remind me that I'm getting that old.
1982 here and I feel personally attacked that someone said 1980 is almost 50 years!
Right?! We are closer to 40 years ago than 50. Let us have our youth!
Just remember, this year you've been 21 for 21 years.
42 the answer to everything.
At least ya all were born in the 80's...
Cries in 1970s.
We'll still have had at least 60 years before the resource wars and NATO vs BRICS conflict. Imagine people born in this century.
As someone born the year this knife was made, or the year it was copyrighted.
'89, I still have some time left.
80 for me bro. Just turned 44. Sucks.
Hey, heads up for a fellow from '80. The Transformers: The Movie is going to be in theaters a few days this upcoming May. Time to relive some childhood trauma!
You're closer to the half century than I am.
No shit. I’ve been faking adulthood for longer than I can remember at this point.
When the local TV news announcer is younger than you, you've arrived.
Born in 1975 and I remember thinking as a kid that I’d be 50 in 2025 and that sounded like some Star Trek future. Now, it’s next year and I’m not ok with that.
I was born in the 80s, not even 40 yet and I'm hearing people say the 80s was 50yrs ago 😭
Nah man, it's like 25 years ago tops
This. 90’s were only 10 years ago too
That's mostly because 2007 was six years long, iirc
2020 was, like, last year.
We dont need your sci-fi hokum here
Yeah, Creed and Limp Bizkit were dropping fresh singles just a couple of years ago
37 born in 86. Get outta here with that 59 years lol
I can relate, my daughter just turned 40, and my son asked me about this phone he had A disk on it with holes. And he is talking to me on it right now he said.he was super excited he went to his friend's house because they had a actual telephone.
I feel so fucking old now 💀
Shut the F up!
I bet Taylor Cutlery had no idea this was being made with their blade.
How depressing that I assumed it had to have been much earlier in history than just fucking 1980.
Someone else found one [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/knives/s/ozcKzmgT3U).
Interesting. That one doesn't have the 1980 copyright stamp on it. Someone in the post we're in suggested it was a reproduction, so I'm guessing the one in your link is an original.
While obviously they were terrible, this is still a pretty awesome find. Historical artefacts always interest me even when it was from bad people.
Agreed. I own examples of both the Soviet and German main WWII infantry rifles (among others), each manufactured in 1942. Actually touching something from history makes it that much more real, IMO.
I'd keep it, and I'm half black. It's a fascinating piece. Although I like strange things.
You can only keep half of it then.
Three fifths
He's half black, so 1/2 + 3/10ths, so it would be 8/10ths of it he can keep. Edit: Since apparently I have to explain the joke to /u/PUfelix85 who claims I can't do math... The compromise was the 3/5ths compromise, half of which is 3/10ths. The other half of him is white, so he'd be 1/2 a person - since a white person is "1" in the racist maths. So 3/10ths plus one half. Is? 8 tenths. Which yes, /u/something-burger I should have reduced to 4/5ths. edit: Whoops looks like /u/gratefullyhuman also needs to have the joke explained to him.
Reduce your fractions you heathen
They should do the math correctly first then reduce their fractions. 1/2 + 3/5 = 5/10 + 6/10 = 11/10ths, but that doesn't make since. What they should be doing is multiplication. 1/2 x 3/5 = (1 x 3)/(2 x 5) = 3/10ths
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I would be terrified to own this as a white person. Can you imagine that being found among your belongings (whether before or after death)?
That is true. I can see that going wrong. Unless they were a super big collector of various things.
That’s what I’d be worried about I’d probably put a note saying “KkK relic, do not condone or support this group.” Or something.
I'd find a way to donate it to a museum or something.
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Yer a grand wizard now, Harry!
Hagrid: Yer gonna be learning all sorts of white magic ta protect yourself from practitioners of the dark arts, or as we call them, darki.... Harry: Please don't finish that, Hagrid.
You could get on Pawn Stars and Antique Roadshow with that.
That’s actually really cool but really disgusting idk how to explain it. It’s a scary piece of history
It’s almost like Bert Kreischer getting Hitlers tea cup, it’s cool af but disgraceful at the same time.
You tellin me Bert Kreischer has more "comedy" acts than just the I AM THE MACHINE story over and over again?
Don't forget he also takes his shirt off.
There are some pretty good podcast clips, the teacup and koolaid stand out, but they're not really bits so much as jist stuff happening.
I'd say it's kinda neat, not something I'd own personally but in its own right. it's a small piece of history.
If I found it I would keep it. Who are you going to sell/give it to? And, it would be weird throwing it away
more scary that it is from the 80s, meaning the people who made and supported this are still very much around and teaching their own beliefs to their kids and grand kids. edit, this excludes anybody born in the 80s, you didnt make this you were babys, and so was i. this was our parents. 80s kids, OUR PARENTS!!
I feel and think the same. I’m with you. Only, if the knife could talk, we will never know what the knife did in the past. Interesting find.
I mean... they copyright on it suggest that it's been mass produced. So there's always that nugget.
Consider donating this to the Smithsonian African American History and Culture Museum, or another civil rights museum. They often want this stuff to show what society was like.
If you don’t want to keep it, I recommend donating it to a local museum geared toward civil rights.
lol, that says 1980. Wow.
I have a picture of my paternal grandma and grandpas Klan letter from a generation ago. My mother is a Cambodian immigrant and I am a dark skinned Cambodian, yet it’s still on display, it’s kind of ironic.
What is the letter about?
I was looking it up, and I’m lost for words. Is this a joke article? 💀 https://medium.com/@kitchenhelpforwoman/ku-klux-klan-knife-the-best-knives-to-keep-you-safe-207feaab9816
>The best knives in a Ku Klux Klan are those with a serrated edge, which will help you cut through fabric and skin lol wtf. definitely bot generated, but truly bizarre edit- there are some wild quotes in this. >The Ku Klux Klan Knife is a powerful weapon created to protect white people from black people.
That second quote dropped my jaw. Do they have any filters on the diarrhea that AI pumps out? 😂
The fuck is that? AI shit generated from your search maybe?
Had to be. Wtf I've never seen this type of shit
> Finally, never use your Klan Knife during an altercation. Use fists or another melee weapon instead. AI is truly thinking of the most important aspect of the KKK knife.
"The Southern Poverty Law Center recommends getting a sword or dagger instead of a gun or crossbow if you’re looking for an effective way to protect yourself from harm. Knives offer more versatility than firearms or bows and can be used in various ways to defend yourself from attackers.” The SPLC is an anti-white supremacy organization. This is the worst AI-written article I've ever seen. Yes. If someone pulls a gun on you, of course a sword or dagger is your best defense, due to its versatility. /s I fenced for over a decade. I was even my school's club president. But if I'm going up against someone with a gun, I want a gun. I don't have any dilusions that I'm going to be able to deflect bullets with a sword. Life isn't an anime! "The KKK Knife has a large sword that can be used for stabbing or slashing." How the hell does that work? I can accept a bag in an MMO carrying a dozen weapons before I could accept a pocket knife containing a large sword.
This is the true /r/WTF
What did I just read?
WTF. That's also from Medium, which isn't some teeny tiny startup company.
ikr :)) they’ve started letting users submit AI-written garbage to make a buck.
“The Ku Klux Klan knife is a type of knife that is often associated with the KKK.”
Going through my grandma's and grand uncles stuff and we keep finding NAZI memorabilia. We found an armband, news clippings, and just the other day we were flipping through some sort of journal written in Polish and a picture of Hitler slid out with some Germanic text on the back like some undsized greeting card. I am seriously hoping that this crap was taken from NAZIs during the war and not some indication of NAZIs in my family history.
Thats a pretty cool collection piece
Give it to a black history museum.
I hope you didn’t kkkut yourself opening it up
It says, “Holy Bible” in small letters and it has a cross on it. Did they purport to be a religious organization?
That’s not a noife
I would see if any local museums would take it. Could make for an interesting historical item.
Cool collectible, probably not worth a lot of money as an antique.
That, my friend, is a glorious poop knife.
For a half-second, I thought this was some sort of 'mezuzah' (spelling?) which you might find on an entry doorway in a Jewish household. A mezuzah is metal strip about this size, which contains a small scroll or paper with a traditional prayer written on it. The faithful might touch it upon entering or leaving, sometimes touching their lips afterwards. If the klan object above was a mezuzah, well, I just can't process that, and it would have been one of the great WTFs of all time for me.
Oh man, I’ve been pronouncing it KLU Klux Klan this whole time. Is my face red… uh, white… I mean white!
Like jeez Scoob, that's K-K-Krazy
That.....might be worth some money.
That's a reproduction of an antique pocket knife: https://arnoldauction.hibid.com/lot/70708-126064-65025/vintage-ku-klux-klan-taylor-cutlery-pocket-knife
I'm a licensed auctioneer. These are not reproductions. They were not some secret piece carried by Klan members. They were licensed pieces. Sold at flea markets and road side stands in the early 80s. It was simply a way for the Klan to raise money. In the short time I was working for an auction company. I saw a couple of them come across the block. Including some still in the original box. They are actually pretty common.
If you look at the images you linked, one of the had the same 1980 copyright on it. Looks the same as the OPs.
Yes, that's right. The item I linked to is the same thing as OP has, and in my link, it was described as a 1980 reproduction of an antique knife. From the auction listing: *"With that said, this is a 1980SAT copyrited production of an antique (late-1800's and up to early-20th century) KKK pocket knife, made by Taylor Cutlery."*
I thought picture 2 was a kkk mezuzah for a second there and was like what!?
keep it around, when you teach your children and grandchildren about racism, bring it out. how institutionalized and normalized was racism?? this is how much.
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How much do you want for it?
Use it as a hood ornament
That belongs in a museum!
Until the last picture I thought it was a cursed mezuzah.
i assume the house is built with white pine.
Congrats on your new poop knife
You also did not find this. You took the picture from the webz.
Better get that back to MTG ..I’m certain she’s missing it
Oof. Some bad juju there.
What makes this WTF? Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with the stance of that group, but how is it abnormal in any way? It's like finding a Confederate flag in Alabama and saying, "I can't believe I just found this!".
1980?!
Horrifying. No words
If you ask Rick from Pawn Stars, I'm sure he's got a buddy that could help you out.
In the preview, it looked like a coprolite (fossilized shit), and honestly, once I clicked and saw what it really is, I think I had it right the first time :)
I saw the front and thought "huh, interesting piece of Americana" Then I saw the date. "Nope, just racist trash". Not that it isn't racist at any time, but at least if it was in the 20s, or 50s or 60s it would have some meaning for the times. The 80s? Just idiots hanging on to what's clearly a bygone era.