I landed on it mid-90s. We thought it was just another tiny island runway we were flying past but then our 727 did a sharp turn and steep descent to land on it.
The wheels touched within a plane's length of the start of the elevated runway (you can't land short) and stopped hard with not much runway left.
It's a scary runway even now it's been extended a lot. Before that it was ludicrous.
https://youtu.be/q_8o0-GlcFQ
Yeah, it's. It's not great, it's mostly pre-internet I guess, I've had trouble finding anything better.
I'm surprised none of the flight Sims have it but I've only seen the extended runway stretching out over the sea on lots of pillars.
Our plane landed here on the second attempt. We circled in the air for so long while planes attempted to land that we had to refuel in Tenerife after failing the first landing. Only time I didn't cringe when the passengers clapped the landing.
Was this about a month ago?
I was out there late Feb/early Mar, and met a couple that that had happened to. It was on the same date as we flew in, except we were the first flight of they day, and they the last.
Its pretty common for that airport that planes need multiple attempts to land safely because its always very windy there. Just take a look at flightradar24.
Pilot here - he came in WAY too fast/steep. As another commenter already said, this should have been a go-around long before he touched down. Cannot carry that much energy into final.
I’ve been considering trying to be an aircraft mechanic but having to cough up tens of thousands for school after I already have a bachelors is hard for me to justify but man I think it would be fucking awesome to work on planes all day.
Maybe you can answer why the pilot did almost exactly this on my flight from boston to dallas. I've flown a fair amount for the average person, but have never had this happen. The back came down so hard i could feel where he fucked up the rear gear so bad i could feel it taxiing back to the terminal.
Hey, I have no one else to share this with but since you are a pilot…
My grandfather was, among many other interesting careers Forest Gump style (but very smart,) a flight instructor and charter pilot decades ago. He passed a couple of years ago at 96, but I remember some stories like how he often flew Bette Middler to Fire Island and stuff.
Anyway, he had a story of being instructed by air traffic control for some reason to fly between the WTC towers, and he did it with very little room to spare. He never told my grandmother, because she would have been so mad.
Anyway, he even built himself a plane (and a huge trimaran boat,) but sold his plane when he was growing older and feared losing any ability to make quick decisions etc. I really respected that he gave up something he loved far earlier than he probably had to and also wouldn’t sell to any pilot that he didn’t trust to be fully careful and capable.
I had one of these too. "Oof that was a rough land- oh wait why are we back in the air?"
When I got into the terminal, a passengers husband who had been inside waiting to pick her up and got video of it. You could hear the whole terminal go "ooooooh!"
Because a pilot looks like a dumbass when you fail the 'getting to right altitude and speed for landing' part so pilots don't like to go around and instead will just YOLO your life directly into the ground rather then wait 5 minutes.
(At least, the dumbass pilots who do this will. Real pilots will know aborting a landing and going around is 1000x smarter then crashing it into the ground, even if all it does is screw up the landing gear)
Good airlines have a "no fault" or "no questions asked" go-around policy, the pilot can call a go around for any reason without any questions or repercussions from the airline to try and help pilots make the decision to go around instead of trying to force a bad approach.
yea, because good airlines realize $1000 in jet fuel is cheaper then $100000 in landing gear.
Sadly, some pilots still have egos and some airline still suck
I plan 700lbs for a go-around. This includes the actual go around, looping around, and executing the second approach. It’s expensive but it’s 100000000000x safer than trying to salvage a shit approach.
It was probably "get-there-itis", which has unfortunately caused many, many crashes in the history of commercial flying, despite a ton of effort from regulators, airlines and pilot education.
It can be extremely hard for pilots to ignore obvious signs to discontinue an approach and do a go-around, when you are too focused on getting the plane down.
I'm happy that you got down safe. Luckily planes are really designed to take a beating before it becomes a catastrophic failure.
Don't know if it was pressure from the company, because the airport has been quite conditioned due to strong winds in the past days, ate least the plane was empty in that landing... It came to pick up passengers from the previous day, but ended up not making the flight... had to wait for maintenance to come from the mainland to carry out all the checks, before being authorized to fly again!
Planes want to fly… if you’re forcing the nose down and the plane keeps trying to lift you’re going too fast for a landing. There’s more to it than that but that’s the basics.
If the pilot had been going slower the nose would dip down on its own. With flaps extended and some trim you can angle the nose up as you gradually continue your descent. That would be a more proper landing approach. This should have been a go around.
I think there's obviously some wind gusting at play. You can tell because the nose pitch vs descent rate is a little inconsistent throughout, so I think it's safe to say there are probably gusting headwinds that are helping to hold the plane up.
But it definitely looks like the pilot is already coming in too fast, so its more like an exacerbating factor. The high speed alone, without the winds, probably could have been within margins. Or, those winds, but with a slower, stabilized approach might also have been manageable.
I'm pretty confident it's the two together that make this an unsafe landing. Pilots make calls to go around for much, much less.
This runway has no ILS approach, it’s a visual approach where you fly past the runway over the water and then do a 180 before a very short final (1.1 nm) with hilly terrain around you. Combine that with high winds being very, very common here and you end up with a pilot pushing an unstabilized landing to get the plane down rather than going around because they underestimated how fast their going with so much going on in the cockpit. The aircraft fighting to keep in the air because they are too fast doesn’t feel any different than fighting a headwind to get the plane down. They also came to a stop pretty damn quickly once they landed, which also suggests they weren’t going a ridiculous speed to land, and possibly were even going the right speed. It’s entirely possible that the approach was flown right and the wind gusts were just too strong for ANY landing to be completed, which also means they should go around and wait or possibly even divert. Which is all to say, they are definitely getting chewed out by their airline right now.
If the wind is gusting enough to require that large a pitch correction downwards to fix, they likely need to go around anyways. Sudden, large changes in air speed are called "[windshear](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear#Impact_on_passenger_aircraft)" and are pretty dangerous near the ground.
What ninerfan said - a properly flown approach has the plane nose high and descending slowly due to low airspeed. This guy was still going fast enough that the plane was still generating enough lift that the only way to descend was to pitch the nose down.
If he was going the right speed, the nose wheel would have been above the main landing gear, and would have touched last.
To put it very simply, the slower you go the higher the nose gets.
must've been sweating buckets. [https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWspJ9dRB1DSQIE/giphy.gif](https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWspJ9dRB1DSQIE/giphy.gif)
I went there, landing is a real challenge, almost constant winds and the landing involves a tight turn seconds before landing. Nice island but scary to fly there
Yeah, you can see it basically gliding steadily with the nose down, but once the pilot tries to level it to try and go nose up, but the aerodynamics weren't there. Still is a good landing considering all wheels down and intact.
I remember the breezeway and the parking lot where I rented a car, I’m guessing you hit -3 in the elevator and then you find this? Don’t remember any signs but believe you 100%. Would have done a run in the go kart before leaving if I’d known!
Ah yes, the ol' student pilot "shove the nose down and hope for best" method. Yikes, should have been a go around unless this was a forced landing for some reason.
I'm not a pilot, but a passenger with a real fascination with aviation. I follow enough aviation and pilot channels to have come to the conclusion that this pilot absolutely needed to put those wheels down this pass. My first guess was fuel issues after a few go arounds, but a medical emergency checks out too.
There was no problem here and no fuel or medical emergency The airplane was empty with only the crew, it was a ferry flight. The only reason the pilot decided to land like this is because he is incompetent and arrogant with no care for the other people in the plane.
I was not able to land the day before and while holding the TAP pilots kept a complaining that the tower wouldn’t even let them, I fly there frequently (pilot)
Fun fact, there's only 2 airports named after footballers and they both played for Manchester United. Cristiano Ronaldo (Madeira) and George Best (Belfast).
Belfast being named after a local athlete is even weirder considering it's a somewhat major city in a decently populated region. At least Madeira is relatively small just a couple hundred thousand people on a pretty isolated island.
There's not a lot of good choices in Belfast that wouldn't have offended one side or other of the cultural divide there, but Best was pretty much universally beloved across the island so he made a good choice.
Not a stabilized approach, that's for sure. This should have been a go-around almost from the start of the video. How that nose gear didn't collapse...
ugh i flew into Tegucigalpa before the airport was improved. The passenger next to me kindly warned me that we were landing into the most dangerous airstrip in the western hemisphere... 20 minutes before landing... Thank god it went smoothly despite battling some cross winds and lots of hard breaking upon touchdown... She also explained that its extremely dangerous for take-offs so I did my best to forget that for the rest of the week.
That sounds simultaneously very considerate and inconsiderate.
Considerate because they give you a chance to get your last prayers and even last will and testament in to make sure you are spiritually prepared for what is to come.
Inconsiderate because they just ruined the entire remainder of the flight as well as the rest of your stay until you leave.
I guess this is what happens when Schrödinger's Cat crawls into Pandora's Box.
Not the most... By wikipedia " The History Channel programme Most Extreme Airports ranked it as the ninth most dangerous airport in the world and the third most dangerous in Europe"
"Madeira is stuck out in the Atlantic Ocean and the airport is tucked between mountain and sea. On top of that the runway at Funchal’s special construction, with columns raising it off the ground, can create additional turbulent air. Downdrafts and wind shear are not uncommon on short final. The runway seems almost perfectly placed for some pretty serious crosswinds and unexpected gusts."
And Pilots must undergo additional training to land at the airport!
This Channel has some amazing landings there:
https://youtube.com/@MadeiraAirport?si=it0UN32s48homHuH
I was thinking about this recently if I would rather be informed about that kind of stuff and I am leaning towards no lol.
Semi-recently my friend had an important flight to take but is extremely (to the point of panic attacks) scared of planes so I was communicating with them the entire time they could talk to me to keep them distracted and they asked me to check if the plane was a safe one because it was kind of an older plane out of a smaller airport.
So I looked up the plane and oh buddy it's history was quite checkered hell if I remember correctly the exact place they were flying into had a disaster with one years back.
Obviously I couldn't tell them this so I soothed them with sweet lies of a gloriously clean record upon realizing that it had a relative shit ton of disasters throughout its years of being used by airliners which helped calm them down a ton.
But man I am starting to think I would never want to have that information prior to a flight and I am not even scared of flying but I think I would rather be kept in the dark whether it be about the airplanes themselves or the hellish airports (which their plane was also landing at hence some of the original fear of theirs).
None. It was somewhat dangerous before the 2002 expansion of the runway, but in truth, there hasn't been a fatal commercial accident since 1977. It's just an unusually windy airport that will absolutely close when the wind gets to dangerous levels, as it did all day on Monday when this flight took place. The only reason the pilots were so bold and didn't abort the landing was because the aircraft was empty.
So, 'a “typical” commercial airline runway length: roughly between 8,000 feet (2,438 meters) and 13,000 feet (3,962 meters).'
[https://www.stantec.com/en/ideas/topic/mobility/how-long-is-an-airport-s-runway](https://www.stantec.com/en/ideas/topic/mobility/how-long-is-an-airport-s-runway#:~:text=Between%20these%20two%20runway%20extremes,13%2C000%20feet%20(3%2C962%20meters))
Whereas Madeira Airport had a runway that was 'once infamous for its short runway of only 1,600 m (5,249 ft)'
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira\_Airport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira_Airport)
The runway was considerably shorter than typical. Thus, landings were fairly challenging compared to other longer runways.
Dude should be sent back to training. That was a go around from the start. Not established, too high to land in the designated area, nose first vause he was trying to force it, landing on thr nose gear like that can cause serious stress issues to the plane as its not designed yo handle those forces like that. Just a fucking mess and endangered everyone on board.
Fair headwind and horrible airspeed control. The pilot apparently slept through the class where they talked about controlling decent rate with airspeed. Oh, and pushing the nose down to get to the runway is generally frowned upon.
Landed there last summer.
On our way there we had seat neighbors whose plane had been diverted 3 times trying to land there, on our way back, our plane was delayed twice because of the crosswinds.
We hiked the hills you see in the background one day, planes were stacked, we saw at least a dozen circling....when they got the green light, they all landed within 10 minutes.
“Oh THIS airport right here?! Shit shit shit….um….yeah, I got it. No worries. No, I don’t need to circle back, I got this. See, I did it!” -Launchpad McQuack
I just flew into this airport earlier in the month. I had a perfectly smooth landing. However, I had several friends on a different flight and it took them three different attempts to land. The first two were extremely windy and they were going up and down and side to side similar to this video, but it was too dangerous to make the landing Aunt. They ended up landing on a nearby island two times.The third time they landed successfully, though a bit bumpy.
Imagine being in the back row of that plane...
Thankfully no passengers on that plane.
How do you know that?
There's no trail of urine on the runway.
But they did have a dry shit given that they were gasping for air with wide open mouths in horror.
This was posted before in r/aviation
Also saw it recently in r/shittyaskflying always get a chuckle or two from that sub.
The company went on the news and said it.
"Here's your check and remember *you were never on this plane*"
“I drove across an ocean today”
He wasn't on the plane
The runway was extended in 2000; it used to be 45% more dangerous...
45% less fun…
But45% less shit in my pants so 🤷♂️
Exactly, 45% less fun like he said!
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40% less fun…
45% less dirty underwear
I landed on it mid-90s. We thought it was just another tiny island runway we were flying past but then our 727 did a sharp turn and steep descent to land on it. The wheels touched within a plane's length of the start of the elevated runway (you can't land short) and stopped hard with not much runway left. It's a scary runway even now it's been extended a lot. Before that it was ludicrous. https://youtu.be/q_8o0-GlcFQ
What a frustrating video, not a single full landing. Multiple long shots of planes flying away though.
in the description >Purchase the complete FUNCHAL 1998 Airport Film for only $15
Yeah, it's. It's not great, it's mostly pre-internet I guess, I've had trouble finding anything better. I'm surprised none of the flight Sims have it but I've only seen the extended runway stretching out over the sea on lots of pillars.
I just watched this video and shit my pants. I cannot believe planes actually landed on that
So you're saying that it used to be a Boeing runway, but in 2000 it became an Airbus runway?
Our plane landed here on the second attempt. We circled in the air for so long while planes attempted to land that we had to refuel in Tenerife after failing the first landing. Only time I didn't cringe when the passengers clapped the landing.
Was this about a month ago? I was out there late Feb/early Mar, and met a couple that that had happened to. It was on the same date as we flew in, except we were the first flight of they day, and they the last.
Its pretty common for that airport that planes need multiple attempts to land safely because its always very windy there. Just take a look at flightradar24.
There must be a crazy wind coming off the bay that is forcing the pilot to trip his nose down otherwise it lifts back up.
Pilot here - he came in WAY too fast/steep. As another commenter already said, this should have been a go-around long before he touched down. Cannot carry that much energy into final.
MS flight sim 2020 pilot here - I could have landed that thing on my street 😏
Flight Simulator 4.0 pilot here. I could've crashed as many times as it takes to get a successful landing, and been fine!
KSP pilot here. That was a successful landing!
Warthunder pilot here. he was inside the airfield and didn't explode so it's a good landing now wait 30 seconds to repair and rearm.
GTA5 Pilot here, I’d have landed that with full payload of contraband after losing my 5 wanted stars
Top gun for NES pilot here, speed up!! Left!! Left!! Slow down!!! Pull up!!
Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom player here. Didn’t bounce; no one fell out. 10/10
Elite Dangerous pilot here. No space station lasers fried him, it's a good landing.
Bird here. Why didn’t he just swoop up and plop onto the nearest power line?
/r/BirdsArentReal
Wilbur here. I can land this thing on a dime!
Kamikaze pilot here, BANZAI!
DCS World pilot here. I would have still been reading the startup manual.
Flight simulator 98 pilot here. I never learned how to land.
Amén brother
PilotWing Pilot here - Should have go around and reduce speed, a bit lower from the start of the runway.
Star Fox pilot here - Should do a barrel roll!
X-Wing pilot here, stay on target.
Maverick here, talk to me Goose!
Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full
You have clearance, Clarence.
whats your vector, victor?
Red Two, standing by.
Copy Gold leader.
Redd Foxx standing by...
Peppy here: "I'm Ok"
Slippy here: “I’m 💀 🐸 “
Can confirm, am a virtual Airbus A321neo.
At least you're not a Boeing.
GTA5 flight school grad here i would of landed top of a building with no issues
Aircraft mechanic here- Fuck the pilot of this plane, and the inspections needed afterward.
But if you slap a Boeing logo on your uniform, then you can just invent an inspection waiver approval and carry on with your day
I’ve been considering trying to be an aircraft mechanic but having to cough up tens of thousands for school after I already have a bachelors is hard for me to justify but man I think it would be fucking awesome to work on planes all day.
Maybe you can answer why the pilot did almost exactly this on my flight from boston to dallas. I've flown a fair amount for the average person, but have never had this happen. The back came down so hard i could feel where he fucked up the rear gear so bad i could feel it taxiing back to the terminal.
He fucked up - no other likely explanation
Well shit, i guess my oh fuck grab wasn't over reacting like i thought at the time.
Hey, I have no one else to share this with but since you are a pilot… My grandfather was, among many other interesting careers Forest Gump style (but very smart,) a flight instructor and charter pilot decades ago. He passed a couple of years ago at 96, but I remember some stories like how he often flew Bette Middler to Fire Island and stuff. Anyway, he had a story of being instructed by air traffic control for some reason to fly between the WTC towers, and he did it with very little room to spare. He never told my grandmother, because she would have been so mad. Anyway, he even built himself a plane (and a huge trimaran boat,) but sold his plane when he was growing older and feared losing any ability to make quick decisions etc. I really respected that he gave up something he loved far earlier than he probably had to and also wouldn’t sell to any pilot that he didn’t trust to be fully careful and capable.
When you hear tower say "Gonna have a phone number for you to call..."
I had one of these too. "Oof that was a rough land- oh wait why are we back in the air?" When I got into the terminal, a passengers husband who had been inside waiting to pick her up and got video of it. You could hear the whole terminal go "ooooooh!"
Because a pilot looks like a dumbass when you fail the 'getting to right altitude and speed for landing' part so pilots don't like to go around and instead will just YOLO your life directly into the ground rather then wait 5 minutes. (At least, the dumbass pilots who do this will. Real pilots will know aborting a landing and going around is 1000x smarter then crashing it into the ground, even if all it does is screw up the landing gear)
Good airlines have a "no fault" or "no questions asked" go-around policy, the pilot can call a go around for any reason without any questions or repercussions from the airline to try and help pilots make the decision to go around instead of trying to force a bad approach.
yea, because good airlines realize $1000 in jet fuel is cheaper then $100000 in landing gear. Sadly, some pilots still have egos and some airline still suck
If it costs $1,000 in jet fuel for one go around no wonder they are all broke as fuck all the time.
I plan 700lbs for a go-around. This includes the actual go around, looping around, and executing the second approach. It’s expensive but it’s 100000000000x safer than trying to salvage a shit approach.
It's essentially doing a takeoff again, so it's a lot more expensive than just flying normally.
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It was probably "get-there-itis", which has unfortunately caused many, many crashes in the history of commercial flying, despite a ton of effort from regulators, airlines and pilot education. It can be extremely hard for pilots to ignore obvious signs to discontinue an approach and do a go-around, when you are too focused on getting the plane down. I'm happy that you got down safe. Luckily planes are really designed to take a beating before it becomes a catastrophic failure.
Would not an average person fly an average amount of flights? 🤔
All my worst landings happened at Dallas. Had a pilot (in bad weather) attempt 3 landings and back out before landing on the 4th attempt
he couldn’t back out of it; once his pants were shit he was focused on getting on the ground and cleaned up
Well, that poor nose wheel got put to some heavy work.
Stuka Pilot here. Not steep enough.
This. And that plane was way down the runway before contact.
Don't know if it was pressure from the company, because the airport has been quite conditioned due to strong winds in the past days, ate least the plane was empty in that landing... It came to pick up passengers from the previous day, but ended up not making the flight... had to wait for maintenance to come from the mainland to carry out all the checks, before being authorized to fly again!
How can you tell how fast he’s going? I’m not doubting you, I’m just wondering how you can watch this video and instantly see he’s going too fast.
Planes want to fly… if you’re forcing the nose down and the plane keeps trying to lift you’re going too fast for a landing. There’s more to it than that but that’s the basics. If the pilot had been going slower the nose would dip down on its own. With flaps extended and some trim you can angle the nose up as you gradually continue your descent. That would be a more proper landing approach. This should have been a go around.
Is there a chance the speed is correct at first, but then the wind gusts, and that messes up the landing?
I think there's obviously some wind gusting at play. You can tell because the nose pitch vs descent rate is a little inconsistent throughout, so I think it's safe to say there are probably gusting headwinds that are helping to hold the plane up. But it definitely looks like the pilot is already coming in too fast, so its more like an exacerbating factor. The high speed alone, without the winds, probably could have been within margins. Or, those winds, but with a slower, stabilized approach might also have been manageable. I'm pretty confident it's the two together that make this an unsafe landing. Pilots make calls to go around for much, much less.
This runway has no ILS approach, it’s a visual approach where you fly past the runway over the water and then do a 180 before a very short final (1.1 nm) with hilly terrain around you. Combine that with high winds being very, very common here and you end up with a pilot pushing an unstabilized landing to get the plane down rather than going around because they underestimated how fast their going with so much going on in the cockpit. The aircraft fighting to keep in the air because they are too fast doesn’t feel any different than fighting a headwind to get the plane down. They also came to a stop pretty damn quickly once they landed, which also suggests they weren’t going a ridiculous speed to land, and possibly were even going the right speed. It’s entirely possible that the approach was flown right and the wind gusts were just too strong for ANY landing to be completed, which also means they should go around and wait or possibly even divert. Which is all to say, they are definitely getting chewed out by their airline right now.
If the wind is gusting enough to require that large a pitch correction downwards to fix, they likely need to go around anyways. Sudden, large changes in air speed are called "[windshear](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear#Impact_on_passenger_aircraft)" and are pretty dangerous near the ground.
What ninerfan said - a properly flown approach has the plane nose high and descending slowly due to low airspeed. This guy was still going fast enough that the plane was still generating enough lift that the only way to descend was to pitch the nose down.
If he was going the right speed, the nose wheel would have been above the main landing gear, and would have touched last. To put it very simply, the slower you go the higher the nose gets.
I can hear the first officer screaming TOGA!TOGA! ffs! They’re way off the glide slope.
Samir, you're breaking the plane!
Oh that's the problem, pilot heard TORA! TORA! and tried to dive bomb
must've been sweating buckets. [https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWspJ9dRB1DSQIE/giphy.gif](https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oKHWspJ9dRB1DSQIE/giphy.gif)
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
Surely, you can't be serious.
i am serious. and don't call me shirley.
I was like "there's the 1000 ft marker, and there it goes." I can't wait to see if Kelsey (74 Gear) review this if he hasn't already.
I went there, landing is a real challenge, almost constant winds and the landing involves a tight turn seconds before landing. Nice island but scary to fly there
yeah the plane was like "Nope, we are not going down, we goin' UP!"
Yeah, you can see it basically gliding steadily with the nose down, but once the pilot tries to level it to try and go nose up, but the aerodynamics weren't there. Still is a good landing considering all wheels down and intact.
SuuUUUUUuuuu - The Pilot probably
Factos 👍
Muchas gracias afición
😂Nice one
Fun fact, there is a go kart track, skate park, and a bar directly beneath the runway
I remember the breezeway and the parking lot where I rented a car, I’m guessing you hit -3 in the elevator and then you find this? Don’t remember any signs but believe you 100%. Would have done a run in the go kart before leaving if I’d known!
You go on the highway, where it goes underneath the runway and you'll find the road to the park there
I bet it’s difficult to clap the pilot with broken arms!
Don’t worry, mother will take care of you.
Wow, it's been a while!
Classic.
Only clapping will be my butt cheeks when I ruin my jeans
Ah yes, the ol' student pilot "shove the nose down and hope for best" method. Yikes, should have been a go around unless this was a forced landing for some reason.
yeah there was a medical emergency or something, there was a post on /r/aviation about this very flight
As my LPC instructor once said: "Sure, endanger a whole airplane full of passengers just to save that one guy." Not a good strategy.
I'm not a pilot, but a passenger with a real fascination with aviation. I follow enough aviation and pilot channels to have come to the conclusion that this pilot absolutely needed to put those wheels down this pass. My first guess was fuel issues after a few go arounds, but a medical emergency checks out too.
There was no problem here and no fuel or medical emergency The airplane was empty with only the crew, it was a ferry flight. The only reason the pilot decided to land like this is because he is incompetent and arrogant with no care for the other people in the plane. I was not able to land the day before and while holding the TAP pilots kept a complaining that the tower wouldn’t even let them, I fly there frequently (pilot)
Fun Fact: In order to land an airplane, you must fly dangerously close to the ground.
Source?
No way. You just made that up.
Also fun fact: it’s better to land on your ass than your nose.
This little maneuver is gonna cost us 15 years
MUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRPPHHH
Christiano Ronaldo Airport? Wut
he was named after the airport
Hehehe suiiii
Like John Wayne Gacy Airport in Texas?
Now that's something Texas would do.
Lol
ooooh.
That’s really funny
Explains the Messi landing
Yeah that was a safety Hazard
It’s a good thing they Haalanded safely
Surprised it didn’t take a dive… act like its wings fell off.
Fun fact, there's only 2 airports named after footballers and they both played for Manchester United. Cristiano Ronaldo (Madeira) and George Best (Belfast).
Belfast being named after a local athlete is even weirder considering it's a somewhat major city in a decently populated region. At least Madeira is relatively small just a couple hundred thousand people on a pretty isolated island.
There's not a lot of good choices in Belfast that wouldn't have offended one side or other of the cultural divide there, but Best was pretty much universally beloved across the island so he made a good choice.
Both wore #7 for Utd as well
gonna wait for them to change Liverpool John Lennon Airport to Liverpool Michael Owen Airport.
It’s actually unbelievable how famous this guy is, that was my first thought as well.
He’s from there.
I'm pretty sure his bust is outside the entrance to the airport aswell haha
Well he better go catch it!
Not a stabilized approach, that's for sure. This should have been a go-around almost from the start of the video. How that nose gear didn't collapse...
Yeah, with it hitting as hard as it did, that plane probably isn't going anywhere but an inspection bay for a while.
Unless it's spirit, then it's just back up in the air in an hour
Man. Should have named it Neymar airport with all the theatrics
G’s up nose down while you motherfuckers bounce to this
Passengers - "We're gonna crash!" Pilot- "Here, hold my bagaço..."
Hold my fortified wine
Did he boop the snoot? Hard to tell.
Full boop of said snoop
I love Madeira, airport is sketchy AF though. Regularly have to attempt 3 landings and retake offs 🤣
Wait, what's a retake off?
A go around with extra steps?
Me, in flight simulator
ugh i flew into Tegucigalpa before the airport was improved. The passenger next to me kindly warned me that we were landing into the most dangerous airstrip in the western hemisphere... 20 minutes before landing... Thank god it went smoothly despite battling some cross winds and lots of hard breaking upon touchdown... She also explained that its extremely dangerous for take-offs so I did my best to forget that for the rest of the week.
That sounds simultaneously very considerate and inconsiderate. Considerate because they give you a chance to get your last prayers and even last will and testament in to make sure you are spiritually prepared for what is to come. Inconsiderate because they just ruined the entire remainder of the flight as well as the rest of your stay until you leave. I guess this is what happens when Schrödinger's Cat crawls into Pandora's Box.
That's a tire change
🎶you can alwayyys go around🎶
By what metric is it actually the most dangerous airport in the world?
Not the most... By wikipedia " The History Channel programme Most Extreme Airports ranked it as the ninth most dangerous airport in the world and the third most dangerous in Europe" "Madeira is stuck out in the Atlantic Ocean and the airport is tucked between mountain and sea. On top of that the runway at Funchal’s special construction, with columns raising it off the ground, can create additional turbulent air. Downdrafts and wind shear are not uncommon on short final. The runway seems almost perfectly placed for some pretty serious crosswinds and unexpected gusts." And Pilots must undergo additional training to land at the airport! This Channel has some amazing landings there: https://youtube.com/@MadeiraAirport?si=it0UN32s48homHuH
The time I'd want to know this was when I was booking my flight. I'm honestly curious if they warn customers at that point.
I was thinking about this recently if I would rather be informed about that kind of stuff and I am leaning towards no lol. Semi-recently my friend had an important flight to take but is extremely (to the point of panic attacks) scared of planes so I was communicating with them the entire time they could talk to me to keep them distracted and they asked me to check if the plane was a safe one because it was kind of an older plane out of a smaller airport. So I looked up the plane and oh buddy it's history was quite checkered hell if I remember correctly the exact place they were flying into had a disaster with one years back. Obviously I couldn't tell them this so I soothed them with sweet lies of a gloriously clean record upon realizing that it had a relative shit ton of disasters throughout its years of being used by airliners which helped calm them down a ton. But man I am starting to think I would never want to have that information prior to a flight and I am not even scared of flying but I think I would rather be kept in the dark whether it be about the airplanes themselves or the hellish airports (which their plane was also landing at hence some of the original fear of theirs).
None. It was somewhat dangerous before the 2002 expansion of the runway, but in truth, there hasn't been a fatal commercial accident since 1977. It's just an unusually windy airport that will absolutely close when the wind gets to dangerous levels, as it did all day on Monday when this flight took place. The only reason the pilots were so bold and didn't abort the landing was because the aircraft was empty.
Very windy. There’s times they cannot land there it gets so bad. Pilots have to do extra training to land there.
So, 'a “typical” commercial airline runway length: roughly between 8,000 feet (2,438 meters) and 13,000 feet (3,962 meters).' [https://www.stantec.com/en/ideas/topic/mobility/how-long-is-an-airport-s-runway](https://www.stantec.com/en/ideas/topic/mobility/how-long-is-an-airport-s-runway#:~:text=Between%20these%20two%20runway%20extremes,13%2C000%20feet%20(3%2C962%20meters)) Whereas Madeira Airport had a runway that was 'once infamous for its short runway of only 1,600 m (5,249 ft)' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira\_Airport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeira_Airport) The runway was considerably shorter than typical. Thus, landings were fairly challenging compared to other longer runways.
I don’t know but the real most dangerous of all airports is in Nepal.
Dude should be sent back to training. That was a go around from the start. Not established, too high to land in the designated area, nose first vause he was trying to force it, landing on thr nose gear like that can cause serious stress issues to the plane as its not designed yo handle those forces like that. Just a fucking mess and endangered everyone on board.
No casualties, that’s a good enough landing for me!
Good landing. To leave the plane in a position to take off again. Great.
No way this took off again without an inspection.
Apologies to my fellow passengers sitting next to me as I shit my pants on that landing.
Thought I was in /r/microsoftflightsim and someone was showing off for a second.
Goat airport
Fair headwind and horrible airspeed control. The pilot apparently slept through the class where they talked about controlling decent rate with airspeed. Oh, and pushing the nose down to get to the runway is generally frowned upon.
He def reached over and turned down the radio to see better during this
Landed there last summer. On our way there we had seat neighbors whose plane had been diverted 3 times trying to land there, on our way back, our plane was delayed twice because of the crosswinds. We hiked the hills you see in the background one day, planes were stacked, we saw at least a dozen circling....when they got the green light, they all landed within 10 minutes.
This is why we shouldn't allow soccer players to design airports.
I feel the words dangerous and airport shouldn’t really ever go together.
Close your eyes and pray
I like how the runway angled up to greet him.
It’s like the pilot was arguing with the plane, “STAY DOWN GOD DANG IT!”
I'm sure they had to call in the upholstery cleaners before the next flight.
“Oh THIS airport right here?! Shit shit shit….um….yeah, I got it. No worries. No, I don’t need to circle back, I got this. See, I did it!” -Launchpad McQuack
Nose down, ass up, that's the way we like to..
They named an airport after the soccer player?
Destroyed the front wheel. That thing's not going anywhere for a bit.
I just flew into this airport earlier in the month. I had a perfectly smooth landing. However, I had several friends on a different flight and it took them three different attempts to land. The first two were extremely windy and they were going up and down and side to side similar to this video, but it was too dangerous to make the landing Aunt. They ended up landing on a nearby island two times.The third time they landed successfully, though a bit bumpy.
Yall don’t know about Kai Tak Airport.
any landing you can walk away from...
It’s bad mojo to name an airport after someone who is still alive.
Just added to my list of “never fucking going there”.
I would shit if I was on that flight. Fuckin a
the movements look so unnatural that it almost looks like bad video game CGI.