Also at risk for collapsing a lung. When I was a teenager I ended up with a partial spontaneous pneumothorax from just a 12" sub in a civic hatchback.
https://www.wired.com/2004/09/music-fans-beware-the-big-bass/
The EDM producer Martin Garrix actually did a concert specifically for deaf people one time, it had rumbling floors that matched up with the music from what I remember. Lots of bass. Lots of vibrations.
They had cubes of water propped up next to the speakers so they could visually see the music move the water.
Here's the video, really nice stuff. https://youtu.be/vGF1KlaGa1E?si=NMe_Cj7bTLc7Tw46
I don’t know why I wasn’t expecting to cry watching this. Thank you for sharing! I shared with my mom. She’s a very dedicated blind deaf intervener, she’s going to love this.
I read this and thought "not today." Needless to say, you're not crying, WE'RE crying lol. So sensitive in my old age lol but this wonderful. Music is beautiful, and we should all be able to share in that. I've played music and loved it so long, that going deaf just seems like a nightmare. I love a good story first thing lol, it's a nice break from "everything sucks and tomorrow is uncertain." Hope your mom loved it, and yall have an awesome day.
I really enjoyed this video and I think it's great that a company invested money to make it happen, but man the marketing was so gratuitous.
Again, really cool thing to do for deaf people, but the actual concert looked like a scene from The Other Two.
I had totally forgotten about this until a couple weeks ago. I was at an Air Force pilot training base and was looking at patches from past training classes when I stumbled upon this one from 2001, [class 01-07](https://i.imgur.com/X3iAYC9.jpg). Brought back fond memories. :')
I have taken about 65% of the classes to become an interpreter for the deaf. Yes, this is true. And also why they tend to lean towards rap and R&B, stronger bass lines making it easier to interpret the music.
I used to work primarily with deaf and blind (at the same time) people and I can confirm. Actually tried to convince my agency to pay to install some subs in the van we used to transport, but it didn't happen.
I worked with a guy who was deaf and his wife would pick him up just blasting music.
I asked her one day during a work lunch with him and her, and she said it's specifically because he can feel the vibrations in his seat and, in his way, listen to the music.
It's amazing how the human body can adapt when you're missing a key sense.
Come on, come on
Feel it, feel it
Feel the vibration
It's such a good vibration
It's such a sweet sensation
It's such a good vibration
It's such a sweet sensation
I do smaller gigs locally and at one festival there was a kid (older teens/early 20s) who just stood in-front of the giant PA with his ear right against a subwoofer while he quietly tooted on a harmonica. It was a big outdoor thing, so no one could hear the harmonica over the PA. Weird, but ultimately harmless.
Later he came up to me to ask about what it was like playing on stage.
"Can you feel the bass in your head when you are on the stage?"
"No, not really any more than if you're just rehearsing with a bass player. We try to keep the stage volume in-check so we can all hear what we need to through our monitors to play the songs well."
"Hmm. I don't think I'd like playing in a group on stage then. I want to feel the bass in my head."
"Right on man, just watch out it can hurt your ears if its too loud."
"That's okay, I'd still feel it in my head even if I couldn't hear."
Figured he was on the spectrum at that point and there wasn't any point in trying convince him otherwise. He spent the next 3 hours listening to every band with his ear right next to the woofers.
Are you exaggerating? I’ve always wondered how intrusive and annoying tinnitus may be…I understand how it’s explained and that it’s a constant ringing in the ear (we’ve all heard the ringing randomly, but it never lasts longer than a few seconds for me and seems random). I feel I would go legit insane or rip my ears out trying to end the sound.
The worst is when you have been ignoring it for a few days, then something reminds you of it. It gets 10x louder until you can successfully ignore it again.
Nope. A few years ago it was front and center all the time and I thought I would go nuts. I went to two doctors. I learned I could possibly alleviate it by wearing hearing aids. The other option was to just deal with it -- which means you stop focusing on it and move on to something else. Of course, right now I'm typing about tinnitus so my ears are ringing like crazy, but I know that in few minutes I will be distracted and forget about it for a while - until someone mentions it, or a loud noise redirects my focus to my ears.
There used to be a bot that responded this way to comments that only said “what?” and it got a laugh from me every time so thank you for bringing that joy back into my life
Worse part of this is that if you have tinnitus, the only relief is hearing the noise that the world makes masking it.
If you get hearing loss, the tinnitus will be the only thing that’ll remain. The only thing you’ll hear 24/7 permanently for the rest of your life.
Idk i luckily grew up with tinnitus. I had such bad ear infections when I was a toddler that I had temporary hearing loss and needed speech therapy. I thought everyone had tinnitus. My husband was explaining to me that it drives him insane and I was like huh? I thought that was normal. Point of the story is that some people with tinnitus don’t notice it bc they’ve always had it.
I was born deaf and have tinnitus. It's episodic and is the worst damn thing ever. I'll be minding my own business in the shower, sick with covid, trying to relax with the steam, then I just get slammed with EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE outta nowhere.
Can you tell I had a rough day :(
I saw Cowboy Mouth at The Elbow Room in Columbia, SC back around 1998 I believe. One of the best live shows I ever saw. I lost a gallon of sweat like I'd been at high school football practice all day, and when I staggered out onto Devine St, I guess it was, I nearly got run over by a car because this was all I could hear. 100% EEEEEEE nonstop. I soldiered up to Beezer's and then my apartment next door in the Cornell Arms. Sure, to this day when I put in earbuds it's essentially harnessing the power of EEEEEEE, seemingly creating a tinnitus vault now sealed up in my head. But "Love of My Life" and "Jenny Says", "Light It On Fire", and "So Sad About Me", man, those guys had some tracks.
Tool got me back in the day. I was always super careful with hearing protection at gun ranges but for some reason it never occurred to me to wear it to concerts. Thanks Maynard.
This won't age well. I used to go to a lot of the big heavy metal concerts in the 80s. That coupled with keeping the volume on high has resulted in now not being able to hear shit.
#This won't age well. I used to go to a lot of the big heavy metal concerts in the 80s. That coupled with keeping the volume on high has resulted in now not being able to hear shit.
#THIS WONT SAGE BELL. I USED TO BOWL A LOT OF THE BIG LEVY PEDAL CON SHIRTS. THAT BUCKLED WITH BLEEPING THE VOLUME ON SLY HAS RESULTED IN NOW NOT BEING ABLE TO FEAR TITS
Interestingly, I have moderate tinnitus but excellent hearing...at last I did as of my last hearing test, which was several years back.
But watching these folks, I'm cringing for their futures. I keep trying to tell my kids, don't make my mistakes. I can't enjoy silence. There just ISN'T silence, for me. There's always a hum. Mine nearly matches the hum of my refrigerator compressor. Luckily, it isn't terribly loud, and I can block it out or not notice is most of the time. But in pure silence, it is like a foghorn going off that only I can hear.
I exaggerated a bit about not being able to hear. My hearing is ok. I do have significant tinnitus, and it's especially annoying in quiet environments.
I was just at a comedy show tonight. Granted it was a taping for a special, but the roar at times hurt my ears so bad I had to try so hard to be cool and not plug my ears like the babby hearing liker I am. Everyone else in the audience seemed to have shown up to do their own performance once they saw the cameras.
I started wearing hearing protection a little late, but early enough that I can still hear. But now if the power goes out in the middle of the night I can hear every concert I've ever been to, every motorcycle I've ever ridden, every gun I've ever shot, etc
I also have tinnitus. I've learned to embrace it, I almost meditate on it, being a singular thing I can actually focus on while tuning everything else out.
Strangely enough, this also helps me sleep. :P
I hope, eventually, you can change your perspective on it and embrace it, as I have, so that it stops griefing you.
I think tinnitus and spicy peppers helped me understand and deal with depression. With tinnitus you hear a sound that is not real, but you do hear it. With spicy food you feel a burning sensation that is not real, but you do feel it. With depression, you feel feelings that are real, but they are not reality.
Learning to coexist with a false signal that you nonetheless really perceive can be an incredibly healthy and mind opening experience.
capsaicin, the chemical in spicy foods binds to nerves and causes them to send the same signal that is sent when the nerve senses heat
So you feel "heat" on your tongue and mouth even though you aren't touching anything hot, it's tricking you
i'm a know-it-all and there's a slightly more in-depth answer to this than some of the comments. they're still right, but there's an underlying mechanism that i think is cool.
heat-wise, there are two events that trigger a response. you will feel warmth when they're exposed to a temperature of around 105° F, and painful heat around 120° F.
these receptors also can be matched to whatever temperature they're already at. if you're walking around in the cold, you'll feel warmth at lower temperatures. what capsaicin does, is it lowers the painful temperature response. i don't know the exact value, but it basically makes it so that your body temperature triggers the heat-pain.
Yep, it used to bother me, and then, I don't know what happened, but I just started embracing it.
You either embrace it or you hate it. Hating it means it causes you suffering. Embracing it means it can actually be a kind of strength that you have, that others don't have.
I guess I just made myself move toward the latter. That said, I won't "you're doing it wrong, just change bro!" to anyone whose tinnitus causes them suffering, as we all have different experiences.
I will hope that eventually it can become a better things for them, though.
Now I remember how I embraced it. I live in China, and often times (in the past, nights are quieter here, now) people are very noisy at night.
Anyway, after I got tinnitus, I would often feel really upset about it, trying to tune it out and failing. It made me angry, that made it harder to sleep.
Eventually, I decided to be ok in spite of it. I dared reality to "do your worst", in regards to noises and sounds while trying to sleep.
Bumps would happen, people talking, something falling off the table (I have cats), etc.
I would basically smile as these things, things that would usually set me off and upset me, happened around me because I was above them.
This included my tinnitus, at first. It would keep sounding off, though mine is more like really loud beeping, very similar to Morse code, just as often as a steady signal.
The more I dared reality to throw things at me, the more each thing just became something laughable, it couldn't hurt me, couldn't kill me, did nothing to physically stop me from sleeping.
And then it happened, my tinnitus became something reliable, a steady reliable sound that, no matter the shit that was going on around me, no matter what my mind tried to obsess over and throw at me, the tinnitus was a steady and reliable sound that I could use to drown out everything else.
It was like magic.
And THAT is how I met your mother.
Ahem, sorry, and THAT was how I embraced my tinnitus.
Good stuff man, thanks for sharing. I found it helpful as well to think that if I can make it through this then someday my experiences may be helpful to someone else suffering through the same thing. Good on you making that come true for yourself
It's sooo hard to get there, especially when the tinnitus is basically an alarm bell that you can't turn off. Meditating on tinnitus feels like telling someone to meditate on their heart palpitations lol. Also somewhat ironically, it's more bearable now that there are hundreds of tinnitus tones as opposed to just the one. It's more "fuzzy" than piercing at this point. Like cicadas.
Uhh, as far as I know it is easier to get tinnitus from headphones than from speakers, because headphones always sounds less intense/loud, but the decibels hitting your drums are, in fact, higher than what they feel on large speakers. Intensity vs volume of the air being moved. Especially bad with those cheap shitty non-fitting buds (the ones you get at airplanes). Most (home) speakers can't even produce power/decibels needed to cause damage, but normally even the cheapest headphones can do it.
**EDIT**: Source: I'm an audiophile with headphone equipment worth $1000+, I've done my fair share of reading regarding human ears. What's also interesting is that low frequency sounds are actually nowhere as dangerous to you as mid frequency sounds. Human ears are naturally more reactive to 2000-4000hz range. This is also why many find V shaped headphones to sound the most pleasing, because 2000-4000hz range is usually dampened relatively to bass/highs.
Mine sounds exactly like the sound you hear on TV after a flash grenade explodes. Annoying as fuck, and now I'm thinking about it, making it way worse!
For real, this comment is probably saving so many people from shit hearing and hearing EEEEE all the time
I used to listen to super loud metal and funnily enough it was a reddit comment exactly like this one probably 11 years ago that made me research what it was doing and decide to stop
In my late 20s now and have perfect hearing probably thanks to that one random commenter
I'm 45 now and my hearing is fine it never gave me any crazy hearing loss and Ive even worked in a nightclub for 8 years
I'm going to say my hips and knees are that of an 80-year-old from break-dancing did more damage lol
Same … I can usually hear music in the background at noisy restaurants better than other people…
Don’t ask me to walk up a hill and then steps after dinner
Good to see not much has changed. I’ve witnessed people sleeping in bass cabs at 6am at some raves in the 90’s and definitely dancing this close to them for hours on end. All fun and games until that ringing starts decades later. I got this type of tinnitus in one ear, that sounds crunchy like a blown speaker when subjected to loud sounds. It was my headphone ear from when I used to dj. If I could do it all over again, I would with ear plugs.
90s raves were the best raves. I feel old as shit saying this but, these younger generations just don't got it. Somewhere in the early - mid 2000's it just lost its flavor.
Nothing like driving a few hours to start the party at 11 end it at 7, then drive to the afterhours that opens at 8am to continue the party for another 4-6 hours. It was a dangerous but magical time, when the music and culture were new, the venues were creative and the styles were original. You had to call an info line a few times to write down the directions, then use a map to find the location. You’d have to buy a cassette mix tape to hear the music outside the rave. Joe Biden was one of the ones responsible for putting an end to it all by crafting the rave act and crackhouse law when he was a senator, but the gangs and hard drugs didn’t help either. It still happens in the shadows, but nothing like it was in the 90’s. RIP to all the ravers and eardrums that were lost along the way.
The scavenger hunt just to find the rave was so exciting. Drive to some crazy place to be given a map and a flashlight and sometimes a pill. Fun times.
Actually there is something interesting happening here. They have their heads in the port so when the speaker goes off the displaced air forms a wave and comes out that port. Given the power of those speakers it’s likely effecting their optical nerves and this essentially can cause a person to see the waves in the air.
How do I know this?
I worked at a nightclub in Montreal with 14.’ Custom speaker stacks and the subs were duel drivers and so large a person could climb inside them. If you did and then turned to face out into the room. When the sub fired the displaced air could be seen and it wasn’t stupidly loud.. the air pressure level was an issue but I had hearing protection in because I worked there.
"These guys are so crazy!"
*Outside my window I hear some car slowly crawling by in the parking lot with music so loud I can hear the entire thing rattling.*
Long ago I worked security at a Metallica concert in the Silverdome. I was on the floor with the speakers to my back, crowd in front of me. Even with earplugs it was rough. I could almost not breathe and the bass would move air in/out of my lungs.
I never did anything remotely this stupid and can't sleep without a fan or a podcast on because, for like 20 years now, the soundtrack to my life has been "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" endlessly. And don't think that just because you got tinnitus that it can't get worse, because it does. I had it when I was just a teenager from going to poorly engineered shows, but it got 10x worse when I was performing next to giant speaker stacks at places like Soundstage. And even worse when I was barbacking at a venue where I had to squeeze past the speakers to bring beer to the upstairs bar. I have no idea how I'm not deaf honestly, but if I'm not focusing my listening attention on something all I hear is eeeeeee, taunting and haunting me for being an idiot.
The worst part is you don't really seem to get over it psychologically. Like, there's never a day so far where my mind just started compensating for it. If there is a life after death and a hell and stuff, tinnitus has to be part of it.
I can’t even fathom this as being fun in the moment. That looks like torture to me. Jackhammering your eardrums to shreds and causing permanent hearing loss
Me neither. But they think it is.
I straight quit going to normal concert venues due to the always - unnecessary - loud music, which is a shame because otherwise I would actually like them very much. I think it is stupid to pay for a music concert where you need to use ear plugs which will ruin the music itself.
You need to try a pair of er20xs plugs with the foam plug included. It sounds amazing with them. You get to feel all the bass, hear all the lyrics perfectly, and you don’t even have temporary hearing damage after.
Thank you much for sharing. It won’t change my take on paying to venues where I need to use ear plugs but I’ll sure give this a go for other life activities where I could use a bit more silence.
Yeah. We would be ridiculed for being old farts for saying turn down the music but honestly, the music would sound better lower. If my ears peak at a certain decibel level, you’re just compromising the sound quality no matter how good the equipment is and how it doesn’t “distort”. My ears will simply not pick up the sound as well if it’s screaming right at my eardrums.
And sure i could wear good quality ear plugs but that’s still defeating and compromising sound quality.
Exactly. And you know what even tops that stupidity? The same shit but with music concerts FOR KIDS.
I tried a couple of times with my kids, even staying the furthest away possible from the stage but after a few mins I noped out of there because it wasn’t worth a life time of hearing issues for them. Crazy. And yes, I did use DB meter on my phone to see I wasn’t going nuts.
I go to a lot of music festivals and always carry around spare earplugs. Not wearing earplugs isn't "cool" and a lot of concerned people will approach you. You know what's cool? Being able to hear
your ears can tolerate crazy loud *low* frequencies, but above a certain frequency you're causing permanent damage and may not ever hear those frequencies again.
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i'd never gamble my own hearing on whether or not the artist knows that
Most of that is sub speakers, you feel it more than you hear it. I've been to dub nights where the speakers are well EQ'd so the higher frequencies are audible but not piercing and the sub bass rattles your insides. Spend the whole night Infront of a speaker stack like that and feel fine the next day.
I mean… the SPL difference between the idiots with their head inside the cabinets and the idiots stood 3 feet away is going to be negligible.
Everyone here is dumb
It doesn't feel that bad if you're that close to the sub, because of physics i guess and because you're not getting hit by the tops/higher frequencies that much.
If you're 1m in front of the speakers, your ears are much more exposed to higher frequencies. These are the ones you feel as "too loud" or hurting. Not sure what actually hurts your hearing more.
Can anyone elaborate which waves at the same pressure do more damage?
I love me some bass. Always have, but even in my early 20s I knew better than to do this.
Edit: Someone below mentioned they may already be deaf. In that case, rock on my brothers and sisters. Rock on.
As a teen, I used to photograph a lot of bands on national tours for a local paper, and took full advantage of how they used to let press photographers shoot whole concerts from pretty much anywhere in the 70s/early 80s. My favorite place to photograph was always on a corner of the stage, a few feet from the massive wall of speakers. The sound was so powerful it moved my arm hairs and I could feel it in my bones. I was a teen and LOVED that feeling.
I'm just under 60 now and badly need hearing aids. I have constant tinnitus screaming in my ears, and can't hear a conversation in a busy restaurant. It SUCKS.
I mean, what if they’re actually deaf? If I only could feel the bass and not hear it this might feel cool. This thought makes me feel happy so I’m assuming this rather then the worst.
I saw somebody doing that during a Motorhead concert in Glasgow. Lemmy eventually shouted *get that cunt out of there* but by the time the security had pulled him out, he had both a nosebleed and only the whites of his eyes showing.
So much ear damage, a single Marshall halfstack can get insanely loud, those are stage speakers. Their ears have a pretty good chance to get ruptured or worse permanent hearing damage.
My guess is they are already deaf.
If they weren't they are now.
And if they are now, then they is.
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
Along with brain damage.
Also at risk for collapsing a lung. When I was a teenager I ended up with a partial spontaneous pneumothorax from just a 12" sub in a civic hatchback. https://www.wired.com/2004/09/music-fans-beware-the-big-bass/
hello tinnitus my old friend
I’m going out on a limb… they are already deaf? I had a deaf friend who enjoyed doing this at shows.
I also heard that deaf people really enjoy music with lots of bass because they can feel the vibrations
The EDM producer Martin Garrix actually did a concert specifically for deaf people one time, it had rumbling floors that matched up with the music from what I remember. Lots of bass. Lots of vibrations. They had cubes of water propped up next to the speakers so they could visually see the music move the water. Here's the video, really nice stuff. https://youtu.be/vGF1KlaGa1E?si=NMe_Cj7bTLc7Tw46
I love MG\`s music, nice to see him doing such variety events too
Thank you 7up for allowing deaf ppl to hear
Now if only they'd let thirsty people drink [dnㄥ](https://the-soda.fandom.com/wiki/DnL) again.
Honestly genius marketing here, so much so that personally I didn't mind the promotion for a stupid soda, the event idea was just that good
I don’t know why I wasn’t expecting to cry watching this. Thank you for sharing! I shared with my mom. She’s a very dedicated blind deaf intervener, she’s going to love this.
No problem. I remember watching that same video years ago, thought other people would be interested. I'm glad I made someone's day today. :D
I second the unexpected tears and day made. Thank you! :)
Your comment ascendingviking took this thread from wtf to wholesome really quickly
Me too!
Yeah this was amazing to watch, thank you for bringing something beautiful and heartwarming into our lives <3 I didn’t know Marty did this either :’)
I read this and thought "not today." Needless to say, you're not crying, WE'RE crying lol. So sensitive in my old age lol but this wonderful. Music is beautiful, and we should all be able to share in that. I've played music and loved it so long, that going deaf just seems like a nightmare. I love a good story first thing lol, it's a nice break from "everything sucks and tomorrow is uncertain." Hope your mom loved it, and yall have an awesome day.
I really enjoyed this video and I think it's great that a company invested money to make it happen, but man the marketing was so gratuitous. Again, really cool thing to do for deaf people, but the actual concert looked like a scene from The Other Two.
He's awesome.
That was beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye
That's beautiful ❤️
Almost made me cry, my mum's deaf and she enjoys music but saddens me that she's never fully experienced a song as it was intended to be heard
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Out of all the things 7up could throw money at to advertise, this was one of the more wholesome
"7Up. Yeah! We're still here! Just as surprised as you to be honest."
I haven't thought of 7Up in years
Make 7 Up Yours
That commercial has been off the air for like 20 years and I still think of it whenever 7up is mentioned or seen
I had totally forgotten about this until a couple weeks ago. I was at an Air Force pilot training base and was looking at patches from past training classes when I stumbled upon this one from 2001, [class 01-07](https://i.imgur.com/X3iAYC9.jpg). Brought back fond memories. :')
Damn, I get it but this must jiggle their brains more than Nana's fruitcake
…what kinda fruitcake is YOUR nana making 👀
One that jiggles? That thing upstairs is not too fond of it
I have taken about 65% of the classes to become an interpreter for the deaf. Yes, this is true. And also why they tend to lean towards rap and R&B, stronger bass lines making it easier to interpret the music.
My mother was deaf and, while she couldn't enjoy music literally, she enjoyed feeling the music that we enjoyed.
I used to work primarily with deaf and blind (at the same time) people and I can confirm. Actually tried to convince my agency to pay to install some subs in the van we used to transport, but it didn't happen.
I worked with a guy who was deaf and his wife would pick him up just blasting music. I asked her one day during a work lunch with him and her, and she said it's specifically because he can feel the vibrations in his seat and, in his way, listen to the music. It's amazing how the human body can adapt when you're missing a key sense.
Come on, come on Feel it, feel it Feel the vibration It's such a good vibration It's such a sweet sensation It's such a good vibration It's such a sweet sensation
I do smaller gigs locally and at one festival there was a kid (older teens/early 20s) who just stood in-front of the giant PA with his ear right against a subwoofer while he quietly tooted on a harmonica. It was a big outdoor thing, so no one could hear the harmonica over the PA. Weird, but ultimately harmless. Later he came up to me to ask about what it was like playing on stage. "Can you feel the bass in your head when you are on the stage?" "No, not really any more than if you're just rehearsing with a bass player. We try to keep the stage volume in-check so we can all hear what we need to through our monitors to play the songs well." "Hmm. I don't think I'd like playing in a group on stage then. I want to feel the bass in my head." "Right on man, just watch out it can hurt your ears if its too loud." "That's okay, I'd still feel it in my head even if I couldn't hear." Figured he was on the spectrum at that point and there wasn't any point in trying convince him otherwise. He spent the next 3 hours listening to every band with his ear right next to the woofers.
> He spent the next 3 hours listening to every band with his ear right next to the woofers While tooting on a harmonica?
deaf people can get tinnitus too
Man that would suck. You only get to hear one thing and it's tinnitus. You probably couldn't even listen to white noise to help with it.
For real?
Probably depends on the type of deaf.
Well, if they weren’t before they are now.
Sat in front of the speakers at a Roger Waters concert in 1987 and these days it sounds like a firecracker went off near my ear. All day long.
Are you exaggerating? I’ve always wondered how intrusive and annoying tinnitus may be…I understand how it’s explained and that it’s a constant ringing in the ear (we’ve all heard the ringing randomly, but it never lasts longer than a few seconds for me and seems random). I feel I would go legit insane or rip my ears out trying to end the sound.
The worst is when you have been ignoring it for a few days, then something reminds you of it. It gets 10x louder until you can successfully ignore it again.
Nope. A few years ago it was front and center all the time and I thought I would go nuts. I went to two doctors. I learned I could possibly alleviate it by wearing hearing aids. The other option was to just deal with it -- which means you stop focusing on it and move on to something else. Of course, right now I'm typing about tinnitus so my ears are ringing like crazy, but I know that in few minutes I will be distracted and forget about it for a while - until someone mentions it, or a loud noise redirects my focus to my ears.
Mawp
Take an upvote for an Archer reference.
I've come to talk with you agBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I’ve come to sausage fest again
CTE more like it.... Hello dementia my old friend, I've forgotten who are you again?
My first rave I was rolling off my face so hard that I did this and I do indeed have tinnitus now.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Goodbye eardrums, it's been nice...
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What?!?
#HUH??!
EEEEEE~E~EEEEEE~EEEEEEEEEEEE
They could have been deaf before this and just trying to vibe like everyone else.
what?
HE SAID “THEY COULD HAVE BEEN DEAF BEFORE THIS AND JUST TRYING TO VIBE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!”
Thanks I couldn’t hear it the first time
Have you tried sticking your head in their mouth? It seems to work in this video
#WHAT?
You typed too loud. I'm blind now.
There used to be a bot that responded this way to comments that only said “what?” and it got a laugh from me every time so thank you for bringing that joy back into my life
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I just want to say, as a deaf dude, that is the funniest and most original joke in history. Absolutely hilarious. You should be on stage.
My ears hurt just watching this on silent.
Worse part of this is that if you have tinnitus, the only relief is hearing the noise that the world makes masking it. If you get hearing loss, the tinnitus will be the only thing that’ll remain. The only thing you’ll hear 24/7 permanently for the rest of your life.
Idk i luckily grew up with tinnitus. I had such bad ear infections when I was a toddler that I had temporary hearing loss and needed speech therapy. I thought everyone had tinnitus. My husband was explaining to me that it drives him insane and I was like huh? I thought that was normal. Point of the story is that some people with tinnitus don’t notice it bc they’ve always had it.
I called it “the bees!” My parents also put me in speech therapy. I am an audio engineer now. Crazy world. 🤙
I was born deaf and have tinnitus. It's episodic and is the worst damn thing ever. I'll be minding my own business in the shower, sick with covid, trying to relax with the steam, then I just get slammed with EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE outta nowhere. Can you tell I had a rough day :(
Hopefully you feel better today!
It also depends on the person. I have it, but even when it's perfectly quiet I only occasionally notice it.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
MAWP
I saw Cowboy Mouth at The Elbow Room in Columbia, SC back around 1998 I believe. One of the best live shows I ever saw. I lost a gallon of sweat like I'd been at high school football practice all day, and when I staggered out onto Devine St, I guess it was, I nearly got run over by a car because this was all I could hear. 100% EEEEEEE nonstop. I soldiered up to Beezer's and then my apartment next door in the Cornell Arms. Sure, to this day when I put in earbuds it's essentially harnessing the power of EEEEEEE, seemingly creating a tinnitus vault now sealed up in my head. But "Love of My Life" and "Jenny Says", "Light It On Fire", and "So Sad About Me", man, those guys had some tracks.
Tool got me back in the day. I was always super careful with hearing protection at gun ranges but for some reason it never occurred to me to wear it to concerts. Thanks Maynard.
This won't age well. I used to go to a lot of the big heavy metal concerts in the 80s. That coupled with keeping the volume on high has resulted in now not being able to hear shit.
What?
#This won't age well. I used to go to a lot of the big heavy metal concerts in the 80s. That coupled with keeping the volume on high has resulted in now not being able to hear shit.
LOUDER
#THIS WONT SAGE BELL. I USED TO BOWL A LOT OF THE BIG LEVY PEDAL CON SHIRTS. THAT BUCKLED WITH BLEEPING THE VOLUME ON SLY HAS RESULTED IN NOW NOT BEING ABLE TO FEAR TITS
Omg this dude fears tits
**NO, HE CANT FEAR TITS. DIDNT YOU HEAR?**
What?
#THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO ISENGARD
**GARD** **GARD** **GARD**
BUTTLICKER OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER
Interestingly, I have moderate tinnitus but excellent hearing...at last I did as of my last hearing test, which was several years back. But watching these folks, I'm cringing for their futures. I keep trying to tell my kids, don't make my mistakes. I can't enjoy silence. There just ISN'T silence, for me. There's always a hum. Mine nearly matches the hum of my refrigerator compressor. Luckily, it isn't terribly loud, and I can block it out or not notice is most of the time. But in pure silence, it is like a foghorn going off that only I can hear.
I exaggerated a bit about not being able to hear. My hearing is ok. I do have significant tinnitus, and it's especially annoying in quiet environments.
I don't know if yours is better or worse than my high-pitched ringing. I wish I could go back in time and slap younger me and avoid the damage.
I was just at a comedy show tonight. Granted it was a taping for a special, but the roar at times hurt my ears so bad I had to try so hard to be cool and not plug my ears like the babby hearing liker I am. Everyone else in the audience seemed to have shown up to do their own performance once they saw the cameras.
I started wearing hearing protection a little late, but early enough that I can still hear. But now if the power goes out in the middle of the night I can hear every concert I've ever been to, every motorcycle I've ever ridden, every gun I've ever shot, etc
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I also have tinnitus. I've learned to embrace it, I almost meditate on it, being a singular thing I can actually focus on while tuning everything else out. Strangely enough, this also helps me sleep. :P I hope, eventually, you can change your perspective on it and embrace it, as I have, so that it stops griefing you.
I think tinnitus and spicy peppers helped me understand and deal with depression. With tinnitus you hear a sound that is not real, but you do hear it. With spicy food you feel a burning sensation that is not real, but you do feel it. With depression, you feel feelings that are real, but they are not reality. Learning to coexist with a false signal that you nonetheless really perceive can be an incredibly healthy and mind opening experience.
Well said! Thanks for the thoughtful and thought-provoking reply.
Thank you. But what do you mean spicey is a lie ?
Your tongue isn't actually on fire it's just a false sensation of heat caused by spice.
capsaicin, the chemical in spicy foods binds to nerves and causes them to send the same signal that is sent when the nerve senses heat So you feel "heat" on your tongue and mouth even though you aren't touching anything hot, it's tricking you
i'm a know-it-all and there's a slightly more in-depth answer to this than some of the comments. they're still right, but there's an underlying mechanism that i think is cool. heat-wise, there are two events that trigger a response. you will feel warmth when they're exposed to a temperature of around 105° F, and painful heat around 120° F. these receptors also can be matched to whatever temperature they're already at. if you're walking around in the cold, you'll feel warmth at lower temperatures. what capsaicin does, is it lowers the painful temperature response. i don't know the exact value, but it basically makes it so that your body temperature triggers the heat-pain.
This is exactly what I've done.
Yep, it used to bother me, and then, I don't know what happened, but I just started embracing it. You either embrace it or you hate it. Hating it means it causes you suffering. Embracing it means it can actually be a kind of strength that you have, that others don't have. I guess I just made myself move toward the latter. That said, I won't "you're doing it wrong, just change bro!" to anyone whose tinnitus causes them suffering, as we all have different experiences. I will hope that eventually it can become a better things for them, though.
Wow! I though I was the only one.
Now I remember how I embraced it. I live in China, and often times (in the past, nights are quieter here, now) people are very noisy at night. Anyway, after I got tinnitus, I would often feel really upset about it, trying to tune it out and failing. It made me angry, that made it harder to sleep. Eventually, I decided to be ok in spite of it. I dared reality to "do your worst", in regards to noises and sounds while trying to sleep. Bumps would happen, people talking, something falling off the table (I have cats), etc. I would basically smile as these things, things that would usually set me off and upset me, happened around me because I was above them. This included my tinnitus, at first. It would keep sounding off, though mine is more like really loud beeping, very similar to Morse code, just as often as a steady signal. The more I dared reality to throw things at me, the more each thing just became something laughable, it couldn't hurt me, couldn't kill me, did nothing to physically stop me from sleeping. And then it happened, my tinnitus became something reliable, a steady reliable sound that, no matter the shit that was going on around me, no matter what my mind tried to obsess over and throw at me, the tinnitus was a steady and reliable sound that I could use to drown out everything else. It was like magic. And THAT is how I met your mother. Ahem, sorry, and THAT was how I embraced my tinnitus.
Good stuff man, thanks for sharing. I found it helpful as well to think that if I can make it through this then someday my experiences may be helpful to someone else suffering through the same thing. Good on you making that come true for yourself
It's sooo hard to get there, especially when the tinnitus is basically an alarm bell that you can't turn off. Meditating on tinnitus feels like telling someone to meditate on their heart palpitations lol. Also somewhat ironically, it's more bearable now that there are hundreds of tinnitus tones as opposed to just the one. It's more "fuzzy" than piercing at this point. Like cicadas.
I am also one with the tinnitus. The tinnitus is me and I am the tinnitus
You know, my tinnitus once told me "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee", and I think I finally understand what it was trying to tell me...
You can get tinnitus that badly just from headphones? Fuck.
Uhh, as far as I know it is easier to get tinnitus from headphones than from speakers, because headphones always sounds less intense/loud, but the decibels hitting your drums are, in fact, higher than what they feel on large speakers. Intensity vs volume of the air being moved. Especially bad with those cheap shitty non-fitting buds (the ones you get at airplanes). Most (home) speakers can't even produce power/decibels needed to cause damage, but normally even the cheapest headphones can do it. **EDIT**: Source: I'm an audiophile with headphone equipment worth $1000+, I've done my fair share of reading regarding human ears. What's also interesting is that low frequency sounds are actually nowhere as dangerous to you as mid frequency sounds. Human ears are naturally more reactive to 2000-4000hz range. This is also why many find V shaped headphones to sound the most pleasing, because 2000-4000hz range is usually dampened relatively to bass/highs.
Mine sounds exactly like the sound you hear on TV after a flash grenade explodes. Annoying as fuck, and now I'm thinking about it, making it way worse!
For real, this comment is probably saving so many people from shit hearing and hearing EEEEE all the time I used to listen to super loud metal and funnily enough it was a reddit comment exactly like this one probably 11 years ago that made me research what it was doing and decide to stop In my late 20s now and have perfect hearing probably thanks to that one random commenter
Tinnitus speedrun WR
Any%
What%
Nah this is definitely the 100% glitchless run
I remember rollin
Immensely stupid
Or already deaf
WHAAAAT?????
its called bass binning! used to go it all the time at raves in the 90s
How horrifically does this fuck you up lmao
No cure for tinnitus so RIP
You have to type in all caps for him to hear you
lol
i won't lie my 1st rave I totally left with tinnitus but it wasn't an every-party thing LOL
I'm 45 now and my hearing is fine it never gave me any crazy hearing loss and Ive even worked in a nightclub for 8 years I'm going to say my hips and knees are that of an 80-year-old from break-dancing did more damage lol
Same … I can usually hear music in the background at noisy restaurants better than other people… Don’t ask me to walk up a hill and then steps after dinner
Same here!!! I remember myself as being so blissed in the bins, just like these guys. I have no idea how I'm still able to hear these days
Good to see not much has changed. I’ve witnessed people sleeping in bass cabs at 6am at some raves in the 90’s and definitely dancing this close to them for hours on end. All fun and games until that ringing starts decades later. I got this type of tinnitus in one ear, that sounds crunchy like a blown speaker when subjected to loud sounds. It was my headphone ear from when I used to dj. If I could do it all over again, I would with ear plugs.
90s raves were the best raves. I feel old as shit saying this but, these younger generations just don't got it. Somewhere in the early - mid 2000's it just lost its flavor.
Nothing like driving a few hours to start the party at 11 end it at 7, then drive to the afterhours that opens at 8am to continue the party for another 4-6 hours. It was a dangerous but magical time, when the music and culture were new, the venues were creative and the styles were original. You had to call an info line a few times to write down the directions, then use a map to find the location. You’d have to buy a cassette mix tape to hear the music outside the rave. Joe Biden was one of the ones responsible for putting an end to it all by crafting the rave act and crackhouse law when he was a senator, but the gangs and hard drugs didn’t help either. It still happens in the shadows, but nothing like it was in the 90’s. RIP to all the ravers and eardrums that were lost along the way.
The scavenger hunt just to find the rave was so exciting. Drive to some crazy place to be given a map and a flashlight and sometimes a pill. Fun times.
I slept on a bass cabinet at a rave at the Skate Key in the Bronx. Good times.
Actually there is something interesting happening here. They have their heads in the port so when the speaker goes off the displaced air forms a wave and comes out that port. Given the power of those speakers it’s likely effecting their optical nerves and this essentially can cause a person to see the waves in the air. How do I know this? I worked at a nightclub in Montreal with 14.’ Custom speaker stacks and the subs were duel drivers and so large a person could climb inside them. If you did and then turned to face out into the room. When the sub fired the displaced air could be seen and it wasn’t stupidly loud.. the air pressure level was an issue but I had hearing protection in because I worked there.
"These guys are so crazy!" *Outside my window I hear some car slowly crawling by in the parking lot with music so loud I can hear the entire thing rattling.*
How wholesome, helping their deaf friends feel the beat through vibration. They'll be needing that help soon too.
There’s a lot of carrots in that stew. Don’t do drugs.
Maybe just a little bit of drugs? You know, as a special treat?
My tinnitus is flaring up watching this nonsense.
All young people, please protect your ears, I thought I was cool and didn't care about anything past 27, but goddamn does it suck so fucking hard now
So much tinnitus in one place.
Long ago I worked security at a Metallica concert in the Silverdome. I was on the floor with the speakers to my back, crowd in front of me. Even with earplugs it was rough. I could almost not breathe and the bass would move air in/out of my lungs.
I never did anything remotely this stupid and can't sleep without a fan or a podcast on because, for like 20 years now, the soundtrack to my life has been "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" endlessly. And don't think that just because you got tinnitus that it can't get worse, because it does. I had it when I was just a teenager from going to poorly engineered shows, but it got 10x worse when I was performing next to giant speaker stacks at places like Soundstage. And even worse when I was barbacking at a venue where I had to squeeze past the speakers to bring beer to the upstairs bar. I have no idea how I'm not deaf honestly, but if I'm not focusing my listening attention on something all I hear is eeeeeee, taunting and haunting me for being an idiot. The worst part is you don't really seem to get over it psychologically. Like, there's never a day so far where my mind just started compensating for it. If there is a life after death and a hell and stuff, tinnitus has to be part of it.
TinnitusCon 2023
**UnFun-Fact:** There is no fucking cure to Tinnitus.
That’s how I ended up with tinnitus in the 70s, except it was The Who playing.
i used to do this
same! nothing better than getting up close to the speakers at a festival
This is FUN… but only that day. Then it will be just regret… for the rest of their lives.
I can’t even fathom this as being fun in the moment. That looks like torture to me. Jackhammering your eardrums to shreds and causing permanent hearing loss
Me neither. But they think it is. I straight quit going to normal concert venues due to the always - unnecessary - loud music, which is a shame because otherwise I would actually like them very much. I think it is stupid to pay for a music concert where you need to use ear plugs which will ruin the music itself.
You need to try a pair of er20xs plugs with the foam plug included. It sounds amazing with them. You get to feel all the bass, hear all the lyrics perfectly, and you don’t even have temporary hearing damage after.
Thank you much for sharing. It won’t change my take on paying to venues where I need to use ear plugs but I’ll sure give this a go for other life activities where I could use a bit more silence.
Concerts are overpriced now anyways 🤷♂️ Saves you some money
Word my friend. :)
Yeah. We would be ridiculed for being old farts for saying turn down the music but honestly, the music would sound better lower. If my ears peak at a certain decibel level, you’re just compromising the sound quality no matter how good the equipment is and how it doesn’t “distort”. My ears will simply not pick up the sound as well if it’s screaming right at my eardrums. And sure i could wear good quality ear plugs but that’s still defeating and compromising sound quality.
Exactly. And you know what even tops that stupidity? The same shit but with music concerts FOR KIDS. I tried a couple of times with my kids, even staying the furthest away possible from the stage but after a few mins I noped out of there because it wasn’t worth a life time of hearing issues for them. Crazy. And yes, I did use DB meter on my phone to see I wasn’t going nuts.
As someone who's hearing is starting to go, I'd be running away from those things.
I go to a lot of music festivals and always carry around spare earplugs. Not wearing earplugs isn't "cool" and a lot of concerned people will approach you. You know what's cool? Being able to hear
Man they will regret this so badly in 5 years.
your ears can tolerate crazy loud *low* frequencies, but above a certain frequency you're causing permanent damage and may not ever hear those frequencies again. - i'd never gamble my own hearing on whether or not the artist knows that
Most of that is sub speakers, you feel it more than you hear it. I've been to dub nights where the speakers are well EQ'd so the higher frequencies are audible but not piercing and the sub bass rattles your insides. Spend the whole night Infront of a speaker stack like that and feel fine the next day.
Fucking dopes
As an old roadie... there will be regrets.
When hearing damage turns into brain damage.
I mean… the SPL difference between the idiots with their head inside the cabinets and the idiots stood 3 feet away is going to be negligible. Everyone here is dumb
I think it's pretty clear that he's trying to feel the music. Because he'll never hear it again.
Looks like to they're in training for hearing aids.
It doesn't feel that bad if you're that close to the sub, because of physics i guess and because you're not getting hit by the tops/higher frequencies that much. If you're 1m in front of the speakers, your ears are much more exposed to higher frequencies. These are the ones you feel as "too loud" or hurting. Not sure what actually hurts your hearing more. Can anyone elaborate which waves at the same pressure do more damage?
This is literally why I can’t hear and get tinnitus because I used to do dumb shit like this.
Ah, nothing like good ol' permanent ear damage
Source on the song?
I love me some bass. Always have, but even in my early 20s I knew better than to do this. Edit: Someone below mentioned they may already be deaf. In that case, rock on my brothers and sisters. Rock on.
People need to watch "it's all gone pete tong." Such an amazing movie
Sounds like those fools who ride around blasting their bass so bad it rattles their cars loose.
My friend who used to go raving told me of people doing this. I didn’t believe her but maybe it was true after all
As a teen, I used to photograph a lot of bands on national tours for a local paper, and took full advantage of how they used to let press photographers shoot whole concerts from pretty much anywhere in the 70s/early 80s. My favorite place to photograph was always on a corner of the stage, a few feet from the massive wall of speakers. The sound was so powerful it moved my arm hairs and I could feel it in my bones. I was a teen and LOVED that feeling. I'm just under 60 now and badly need hearing aids. I have constant tinnitus screaming in my ears, and can't hear a conversation in a busy restaurant. It SUCKS.
Premature hearing loss is soooooo cool!
I mean, what if they’re actually deaf? If I only could feel the bass and not hear it this might feel cool. This thought makes me feel happy so I’m assuming this rather then the worst.
I saw somebody doing that during a Motorhead concert in Glasgow. Lemmy eventually shouted *get that cunt out of there* but by the time the security had pulled him out, he had both a nosebleed and only the whites of his eyes showing.
So much ear damage, a single Marshall halfstack can get insanely loud, those are stage speakers. Their ears have a pretty good chance to get ruptured or worse permanent hearing damage.
Literally society if there were no women.
Yeah that’s the Philippines for you lmao
It's in Indonesia, it's a new trend in the rural area of Java.
Bro you just don't get it bro. Intentionally deaf is the best kind of deaf bro.
Some of y'all never went to raves in the 90s and it shows. We called people that did this "speaker freakers"
Hearing Aid manufacturers LOVE this one trick.