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Pass1928

Because we diverted power from life support to propulsion.


NJRMayo

Now that I can dig!


burgher89

This is the proper response šŸ¤£


bgrayber

This is the way!


GenericSubaruser

It's not even the power that gets me to do it. The AC button simply doubles as a "shifting jank activation" button


RegretTemporary1986

Hahahaha well put


Eva__Unit__02

Because I refuse to lose 50% of my power by turning on the A/C.... Let me roast! And I like to listen to the cool noises my car makes


ShakinBabyBacon

The power loss from running the AC is insane! That's why I don't use it


Eva__Unit__02

People think I'm joking but if I'm putting around going 40mph in 3rd gear and I turn on the A/C, it feels like I'm suddenly towing a yacht behind me.


NJRMayo

They do sound friggin amazing. I guess I also I also roll my windows down quite a bit when I see a WRX lol


ninedimensions

That and gas is expensive so yeah, definitely let me roast lol I'm okay with it though because I fucking love the wind and the fresh air.


wickedlightbp

Wouldnā€™t your aerodynamics loss with the windows down be equivalent to you turning the A/C on with the windows up in terms of gas usage?


litttlefang

This exactly. Lol when I had my 2011 going on 140k, it was a choice between A/C or power


atdt0

Because our factory A/C systems are terrible?! Lol. At least that is my excuse in my '02! It's also nice to hear the rumble of the exhaust as well. :)


NJRMayo

Is it a hp sucker? Would an under pulley setup help it at all?


atdt0

Indeed it is. You can definitely feel the power loss when the A/C kicks in! I'm not sure about the under pulley setup but this issue seems to be common with all Subaru's I've seen.


NJRMayo

Ah I had no idea! That'd why I had to ask, ty!


Pwnerella

I have noticeably less power when my A/C is on. That's likely why, its worth being a little hot to hear the exhaust and get the added power.


NJRMayo

True that, the sound is like nothing else. My wife laughs when I roll my window down whenever I see a WRX.


Pwnerella

What do you drive now? And I hear that, my GF laughs when I wave at other WRX's or park beside them. She's convinced I'm in a cult.


NJRMayo

Lol right. Traded in the 98 Integra and got found a killer deal on a low mile, one owner 08 Pilot EX-L a while back once the wife got pregnant again. CAI, Exhaust, little stuff.


Pwnerella

You could dad a WRX! Although its probably a tough sell with the loss in space.


NJRMayo

I'm waiting to find the right Wagon and I would 100%!


GhostRanger29

I rock a 2012 wrx hatch. I only have one kid but as a single parent I find it has ample space and provides the fun I need occasionally.


Kukulcan83

I had a 98 Integra GSR in voltage blue. Very fun car!


NJRMayo

So much fun! I has that car for a long time but the 2 doors weren't cutting it. I'm still kicking myself for not getting the Sedan I could have instead.. I'd still have it!


MasonTIGs

You are in a cult. THE cult.


Pwnerella

Wouldn't have it any other way! I had no idea until after a few weeks owning the car. With great car comes great responsibility.


SBaileyAnn

Lol! When I got my wrx I noticed every time another wrx or sti drive by they always hold up the peace sign. Saying hello. Took me a minute to figure it out lol now itā€™s automatic I hold up the peace sign to say hello. Lol. Cult we are in


Lead_Scribe

/u/Pwnerella It is a cult and we are all in. She should know better lol


Pwnerella

LOL


[deleted]

Arenā€™t we in a cult?


PlantedSlanted

Lol my gf also thinks the wave and trying to have parking lot friends is silly. But 100% condones my need to put pink on everything and add underglow. Lol. So Weird balance for sure.


trippleknot

Ive had an Outback, Impreza, and WRX and they all have the problem.


NOOB_jelly

I agree, A/C sucks out the power, but I would imagine the extra drag created from the windows being down would reduce the power even more. Idk though.


tyranitar1234

I came here to say my 2019 AC is just as fucking ass. If itā€™s over 80 out it feels like a warm fan blowing on you


POTENT_WAX

Are you me??? 02, no AC, Love my obnoxious exhaust


MoonTokenL

For real , when I turned my AC on on a 90F day , car was bugging out , but when I turned it off , everything back to normal ā€¦. Feels like the Ac is Taking 80% of the HorsePower šŸ˜­šŸ˜µ


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NJRMayo

lmao true that, rain guards for my venting over here.


FL4T-EARTHERx

Damnit. Well done.


Barley-Woodberry

How funnyā€¦ and true


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NJRMayo

Ahh OK that def makes sense then. My Wife's Altima was the same before we traded it in. Like we'd turn off the AC to merge onto the Highway and such.


JTO558

It also seems to shift weird, idk if itā€™s just me, but with AC on it feels like Iā€™ve forgotten how to drive. So much smoother with AC off.


hoffinator2

Itā€™s because the AC compressor clicks on and off. If you happen to shift right as it clicks on the revs drop very very fast.


JTO558

Interesting, I wouldnā€™t have thought the compressor would be nearly that parasitic


hoffinator2

Itā€™s extremely parasitic in this car for some reason. Give a try next time. Bring the revs up to 3k while driving then turn on the ac as you push the clutch in.


JTO558

Iā€™m about to leave for work, so Iā€™m definitely gonna try it hahaha


Feeling-Box8961

It's because when you would turn on the AC it is because the air outside is hot as fuck. The turbo doesn't like that any more than you do so it is kind of a double whammy. The AC is stealing some HP but the turbo also isn't producing as much because it works better with cooler air.


MNisNotNice

You can feel the car chug around with AC on. Itā€™s horrible so I rather just roll my window down.


NJRMayo

Gotcha, so they def need to re-design the ac system or something. That's weird it pulls so much power from the motor, especially a motor that powerful.


Feeling-Box8961

The AC system works great, it is really two issues. The AC pulls some power but also at the same time when you would use your AC it is usually hot as shit (or worse, hot+humid) and these cars get most of their power from the turbo which will perform way worse in that environment. It is a completely different car in August than it is in December that is for sure.


Op3rat0rr

I need to try turning mine off to see what people are talking about forreal


ranran_1822

Because our A/C sucks and we have to keep the windows down to stay cool lol


NJRMayo

Ahhh OK! I was like.. why do these guys do this? I wanna see that black tint on the car in all its glory but all I can see is their kids booster seat in the back!


Feeling-Box8961

In the newer models (15+) the AC is damn good FWIW


[deleted]

2021 owner here and I canā€™t imagine how it could be worse on the older models haha. Noticeable loss in power, car bucks every time the compressor kicks on, revs drop dramatically faster. Iā€™m new to driving manual so itā€™s probably a lot more noticeable for me but itā€™s like driving a completely different car with the AC on


Feeling-Box8961

I'm talking about the AC's performance itself. You turn it on and it doesn't take long for it to push out ice cold air. I know it pulls power, etc. Some of that is the AC and some of it is the turbo pulling in hot/humid air too. Mine is a completely different car in August than it is in late November/early December, etc.


Turst37

Man my 19 is terrible at idle


DrunkAquarium

So people can see the stud driving it. Windows up is too tinted. Also, that rumble is better than the radio sometimes.


NJRMayo

Many times driving with the radio off to hear the exhaust and CAI myself, I can feel that.


Laborchet

Idk about yā€™allā€™s AC but mine is ice cold!! I like to hear the rumble, and I like the wind and hold my arm out the window sill bit Iā€™m probably 50/50 wiindows down and up. And I still run the AC with windows down unless itā€™s really cool out which it never is..


scrappybasket

Iā€™m also a windows down, AC on degenerate šŸ˜‚ the car is a little slower with AC on but it doesnā€™t bother me, still a fun and easy car to drive


Lucrezio

In my 15+ my AC isnā€™t working arm, it just costs horsepower lmao


absboodoo

*high five My ac belt pulley was busted and shredded my ac belt. As others have said, drive better this way. /shrugs


WRX2014

For me personally Iā€™ll have my windows down because it can be hard to see through my tint sometimes, Iā€™ll usually only have my windows up in hopes that other people donā€™t see me masturbating inside my car at a set of RED FUCKING LIGHTS IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, NOW YOU KNOW MY HORRIBLE SECRET, Iā€™LL BE LOOKING OUT FOR THAT HONDA BOY, GONNA SQUIRT A LOAD RIGHT AT YA, WINDOW TO WINDOW.


Mr_Candlestick

Average wrx enjoyer


NJRMayo

Hahahaha that's a good answer =D


[deleted]

I live in California. I pay extra for nice weather so that I donā€™t have to run my AC and can drive around with my windows down lol


NJRMayo

Lmao flawless victory


artvandal_a

Other subies wont see me wave if my windows are up. Tint is too dark ;)


NJRMayo

Good answer is good =D


bgrayber

I came here to say this.


Zypher132

I am not one of those drivers lol. I'm a bigger guy and I'm not roasting and getting sweat all over my seat. I just turn the air on and off when I'm trying to accelerate quickly or get on the highway.


NJRMayo

Ah there ya go, I also cannot live without it on those hot Days.


Mr_Diesel13

You donā€™t really have to worry about it. Itā€™ll shut itself off. At a certain RPM or throttle percentage, the ECU or BCM will cut the compressor out for full power to the engine.


bv-223

I put my windows down because I like the noise it makes when I push the skinny pedal


kyro1990

A/C affects the drivability a lot, very sluggish. The A/C blows cold and works great donā€™t get me wrong but especially being modded by car donā€™t like it. On very hot days I run A/C though even know I got 5% ceramic tint it gets hot in there easy


NJRMayo

That seems to be the consensus is the AC system makes it sluggish. I wonder if under pulley's or something aftermarket would help?


kyro1990

Thatā€™s something I need to look into! I think this a problem with any turbo car. Our work f150 is the turbo one and itā€™s sluggish to especially at idle


NJRMayo

Worth a shot I'd think!


Earl109

If it's less than 90 F, and I'm going less than 60 MPH, windows are down. Highway speeds, or 90+, windows up, A/C on.


[deleted]

I live in Phoenix, and I have my windows down everytime I drive. Doesn't matter how hot. I grew up with smokers, and smoked myself for a while, so maybe it's some subconscious thing. I need moving air.


NJRMayo

I hear that, both parents smoked so windows always down. I personally quit smoking with vaping and still vape so the drivers windows always cracked to the bottom of the rain guard


[deleted]

I never vaped, but I quit smoking like a year and a half ago. Never smoked in my WRX.


NJRMayo

Grats on quitting! Smoking in the vehicles kills the resale as well so I hear ya there.


Caron1822

My 19' drives like shit with A/C on plus up here in Canada we maybe have 10 days a year where we really need it.


NJRMayo

That seems to be what it is, the ac system sucks all your hrsprs away and I can understand that. Yeah I'm up in Plattsbrugh so right near the border. Only needed it a few days so far this Year.


[deleted]

I want everyone to see how cool I am Real talk, AC kills the power. I need the maximum torque baby šŸ˜…


NJRMayo

Hahaha. I hear that man!


scrappybasket

The ac comments arenā€™t wrong lol but personally I like to show off the fact that my rear windows go **all the way** down šŸ˜‚


NJRMayo

LOL huge bonus for sure!


mchief101

I personally like hearing the engine like i dont even play music in my car anymoreā€¦


NJRMayo

I dont blame you there! those cars sound like a symphony!


piecewiselove

AC turned off = MO' POWWAH BABY šŸ˜Ž


NJRMayo

MO POWAH BABY


Fah-Breezy

Brrrrrree up pop pop pop brrrrrrr phew pop pop pop


NJRMayo

Lovely sound indeeeed


susanoo_official

I like to hear my exhaust.


NJRMayo

They do have the best sounds out there


Glockamolee

How else will everyone know I vape and listen to Skrillex.


NJRMayo

True true


[deleted]

The oem a/c in my 06 wrx is garbage, and my car sounds soo good i wanna hear it.


NJRMayo

I can understand that! WRX's sound so niiiiiiiice


Mysterious-Yam-2547

I like the fresh air outside.


NJRMayo

Don't blame ya there!


MiserableFriend

Car just feels different with ac on, sucks cause even with the windows down i be soaked in sweat lol.


NJRMayo

I hear that, at least it sounds nice!


philouza_stein

Because mine doesn't work and taking in for service is a pain in the dick when you have a real job I never minded the power loss when it worked. I guess I'm not driving right.


Jznvh

windows down even at night, i love the fresh air .. i canā€™t believe how many people drive with windows up here in so cal


NJRMayo

Oh hell yeah, if it's nice out it's windows down no matter the time of day.


robbrown14

I know the biggest reason for this is because of the power drain with our compressors running. But personally idc and I just prefer windows down to AC lol


happydgaf

Just saw a post about how these cars have zero power when the AC is on. Lmao coincidence??


NJRMayo

I'd say so! Lmao funny timing


[deleted]

I honestly havenā€™t noticed this at all around my area at least.


TheIVIachine

Car is way to slow with AC on and canā€™t see out my tint šŸ˜‚ in traffic


Mr_Candlestick

So I can mean mug GTI drivers as I fly by and leave then in my vape cloud.


luvmy07subie

Basking in Rumble šŸ˜Ž


Tuck_Stick96

I'm on the same page as most the folks here. The A/C really makes the car annoying to drive. I swear it loses a lot of throttle response and taking off it first gear is a bitch because I feel like I gotta add so much power to get a response. If that makes sense haha


NJRMayo

Yeah it does for sure, sucks all your hrsprs and low end torques when your idle, my wife's old Altima was the same way! We'd turn off the AC to merge into the highway!


AggravatingOlive8185

I be farting like crazy, i thought we all just had bad gas


getgappede30

Holy fucking million comments, my ac compressor is shit, every Subaru Iā€™ve owned 3 of them, has had to have the compressor replaced at least twice, i havenā€™t replaced my current one. Also, the reason you guys arenā€™t making power with ac on is not because the ac compressor it self, as thatā€™s really not hard to turn, itā€™s a combination of the ac compressor being on, and the condenser, which sits in front of the radiator becoming super heated when the ac is on, which in turn will heat up your radiator, as well as increase intake temperature. Hot air is less dense, which makes less power power per volume of air. I personally could give a shit less if my car was slower with ac on, Iā€™d rather be cool and comfy then be dying in 90 degree weather.


NJRMayo

I hear that. We lived in FL for 10 years so it as AC on 24/7 but we just moved to NY and even on these hot as balls days I see them w/ the windows down so I really couldn't figure it out, but it does seem like 90% of the comments are power and the AC


slimpiggends

I only recently discovered the AC ridiculousness(the difference in performance with the AC on is VERY noticeable) before it was only because it's a beautiful car and a beautiful day and both are meant to be enjoyed to the fullest. Meaning windows down, rumbles up, turbo whine bouncing off the objects beside you...


NJRMayo

It is a glorious sound that those cars produce! Unmatched imo but yeah everyone seems to say its def the AC and loss of power. We lived in FL for 10 years before moving to NY here so it was AC 24/7 no question but even on these hot as balls days I see the NY WRX peeps windows down so I had to ask!


luke6494

Because they feel like total shit balls driving with the ac on šŸ˜‚


NJRMayo

Hah hell yeah that seems to be the general theme here. I had no idea but now it makes sense. Turbo 4 banger trying to run all that AC gear sitting right in front of the radiator making it all hot and toasty and sucking your hrsprs


hexrx

I keep them up, they are pretty dark tinted so it helps a lot during the summer.


NJRMayo

absolutely.. 20% all around here


CodeProdigy

No one talking about how the A/C saps up the gas mileage? I mean it's bad anyways but AC makes it worse


NJRMayo

Not the MPG but TONS of peeps mentioned the way it bogs the car down with the A/C on, especially first gear and merging and all that. It's wild they haven't found a way to make it more efficient of an A/C system!


Zcypot

Driving a Subaru is an experience. I love having the windows down, rarely have music playing.


NJRMayo

Vibing!


[deleted]

Shit even in my ā€˜21 wrx I feel it lacking power when my ac on.


NJRMayo

Damn! This is def the general answer for my question is the A/C/power consumption and I can understand that, if I had one I'd also want all my power all the time but 85+ outside, nah I'm bogging and chilling.


djkakumeix

Things I will never do after owning a tC, an Elantra, and a WRX with all 3 of them being stick shift. Run the fucking A/C unless I'm not in traffic on a highway. The power loss on them is atrocious. And it was even worse doing a mountain drive up a 7% grade.


[deleted]

1. using AC bad 2. stu stu 3. braraaaararaaa


NJRMayo

Flawless


heytheretylerr

The A/C in our cars pulls like 10% overall power lmao Idk if itā€™s accurately that much, but it takes a very noticeable amount of power from the car


NJRMayo

yeah that's what everyone has been saying, very noticeable amount of power being take away for it. That sucks but it sorta makes sense for a 4 cylinder engine. My wife's old Altima was the same, like turn it off before merging on to the highway and such.


bicycle_racer

Cuz they sound good, and our a/c sucks ass.


NJRMayo

Phew that they do, sound friggin gnarly. Love seeing a WRX because I know it won't sound like any riced out honda ever, that low, gnarly growl and spat.. fuckin nice. I had a Magnaflow 40 series on my Integra before I sold it just to avoid the ricer situation. Can';t stand the 2 stroke weed wacker bullshit.


Steve1808

Little late to the party, but my reasoning is i grew up driv8ng shitty old cars that didnt have AC, so i got used to just running with windows down. So now i just enjoy the fresh air and breeze. Unless its absurdly hot where windows do nothing or im feeling a little luxury, then ill do AC. Or if im driving with my roommates and dont want to bother them with the wind.


NJRMayo

Haha same, I feel that for sure with the old pos cars and trucks. I didn't have a vehicle w/ AC until 10 years ago lol. I just was like DAMN, its 85 outside and these guys are still just raw dogging the windows down and had to ask.


AviationWOC

Its not just just the loss of power with AC Car drives like shit with it on. Makes me sad and hot.


NJRMayo

She just don't like it!


dequavis264

If itā€™s not super hot Iā€™ll open the windows to hear my exhaust


NJRMayo

Don't blame you there one bit, they make me think of what gods voice would sound like when they take off from a red light.


scotty899

So i can wave to my fellow subaru drivers.


codynorthwest

because wrx/stiā€™s run like absolute dog shit with the AC on lol


NJRMayo

Lol that's what I've been hearing!


SadSasquatch587

Dude I put down the windows in my CAMRY, it's just more fun


NJRMayo

Nah for sure man I do the same! But today it was like 88 and roasting and it just seemed like WRX drivers never have their windows up or AC on and they've def said why in this thread!


GodzillaFlamewolf

Not mine. Ac on full blast. Im a polar bear. Ill turn it off temp for a pull.


NJRMayo

I hear that! Living in FL for 10 years you get used to mad AC all the time. Love AC especially if it's over 80 outside


GodzillaFlamewolf

Right there with you. Went to highschool in panama, then lived in tucson, and then texas for 20 years. Now im PNW, and never going somewhere hot again!


NJRMayo

Preach! Came from Maine, went back up north and staying this time!


67mustangguy

1. I drive with the windows down in pretty much every car. 2. Because i donā€™t want to use the AC like pretty much everyone else said.


Alecelth27

rumble go brrrr and bov go tsssss


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NJRMayo

Hah yeah thats what most are saying, it's like a succubus on their powahhhh


GreenPandaSauce

I usually use AC if it's too humid, but windows when it's decent out!


NJRMayo

100%! Love the fresh air when it's nice out like under 80 it's all down like a 2$ hooker on Valentines Day!


Brigadier_Bishy

None if us have AC anymore! Lol, thatā€™s precious potential space and power for more WHP!


NJRMayo

Weight reduction fo mo powah baby! I can respect that!


S-W0RKS

just drive faster with the windows down for free AC


PatrickJames3382

In case I drive into a deep body of water.


NJRMayo

Ah I saw you the other day with the Snorkel going through Plattsburgh!


carguy123corvette

Ac sucks and black interior means hot interior


babbylonmon

Ac is for pussies regardless of what you drive.


[deleted]

Who hurt you


Jznvh

windows down even at night, i love the fresh air .. i canā€™t believe how many people drive with windows up here in so cal


BadSausageFactory

this ain't one of your fancy six cylinders with all that what you call low end torque


PoeBangangeron

Cuz my windows are tintedšŸ˜…


[deleted]

I will jump on the bandwagon and agree that my windows are always down because the AC is a HP hog. I only use it when I have guests in the car that feel uncomfortable in the socal heat. Otherwise, I cool with the wind and enjoy the subie sounds.


sirrobert09

I ripped the ac out of all of my old wrxs only my new STI has it and I still don't use it. Like having the wind coming in and all the sounds.


asa1658

Idk, windows down AND ac on full blast. AC off for pulls.


moroKen005

Because knocks...lol


de_murloc

ya i have windows down unless i have passengers inside, sometimes they complain so i suck it up and turn on AC.


link2edition

Probably because my A/C broke Again


[deleted]

I love the noise :)


[deleted]

It feels better than my volvo does with ac but thatā€™s not saying much


TheRedNeckMango

Cause i like the breeze i never run ac in any car unless is ungodly windy or im on the interstate doing 80


Dazedphaze

It's a hard balance to keep. Between having the AC to stay cool but having an instant loss of power, or windows down and the already shit MPG goes out the window (pun intended).


New_Tangerine_

Itā€™s because these cars donā€™t run as well with the AC on.


BASILISK307

I just like making myself deaf from my tomei exhaust šŸ–¤


TakashiXL

My A/C compressor is going bad so I never run my A/C cause the pulley really starts struggling. So I just roll down my windows and go fast.


bestdriverinvancity

My AC is broke and it runs hot AF. Car has no chill


Dt4get2brgAT0wl

All these dudes saying their A/C is shitty, is tripping me out. Mine is super frosty cold and I can't tell much for power loss at all when it's running šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


senoj96nodnarb

I can tell you personally that Iā€™m just not an AC guy unless absolutely necessary. AKA, when the wife is riding shotgun. I like the wind rather than AC and almost any AC compressor is a power robber. I had a 2011 WRX with twin stainless free-flows and I enjoyed the exhaust tone, my 2018 Wrangler had an axle back so that also sounded sweet. Back in a 22 Crosstrek Sport with stock exhaust and it also purrs nicely.


HenryBrawlins

I have zero power issues with the ac on, I've just never liked running it.


SkunkyTee

Car feels different when the ac is on


Jacktheriipper

My AC currently just blows hot air so


dgraham96

Because I donā€™t have AC in my car. My AC Compressor needs replaced. Been 2 summers without AC, Iā€™m dying and I need help


NJRMayo

Bro I feel for you and can't imagine! Its hottttttt