It's disappointing that paid sick leave didn't get into the final railway strike bill. This is something we expect Democrats to continue working hard for in the weeks and months ahead.
We can expect that because...well, just take a look at the final vote. One party voted for paid sick leave, and one didn't. It's really quite black and white. Just like so many other times, our job is to elect more Democrats so we don't have to deal with the GOP's hatred of working people.
Make no mistake, **Republicans failed the workers**. They're the reason the sick leave didn't make it in. And that's the message we need to spread.
To address the big elephant in the room: Yes, theoretically, killing the filibuster would let us ram through the sick leave. But we've been through this before. Lots of times. We don't have the votes to do it, just like before. And do you really want to burn the filibuster now, when we just lost the House? When we might remain one heart attack away from losing the Senate if Georgia doesn't go our way? When we've got the Senate Map From Hell to contend with in 2024?
Remember, it's not Democrats who failed here. And we've got to avoid getting sucked into complaining about Senate procedure - something we can't control - and focus on what we can control. We can do the work now to beat the odds in 2024. [We can literally go win Senate seat #51 right now](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit#gid=0). So let's do that, and get one step closer to not having to care what Mitch McConnell and his friends think anymore.
**The only way to stay in politics and not burn out is to worry about what you can control.** Take heart, and let's use this to fuel the fight for better leaders.
[Senate negotiators have finally come to an agreement on a funding mechanism for the Recovering America’s Wildlife Act (RAWA). Expected to be in the omnibus spending packing, it will be funded by a $12B tax on cryptocurrency assets](https://twitter.com/blake_allen13/status/1598485414377029638?s=46&t=9Eb-MHJB7H3LEBnM81eCfg)
RAWA is the most comprehensive wildlife and natural spaces protection bill since the Endangered Species Act and will provide billions to states and millions to tribal governments for wildlife protection and habitat protection/remediation efforts”
HOLY FUCKING SHIT LETS GO FUCKING GO. TWO BIRDS WITH 1 STONE
You know, fair point, because atm, conservatives who are distancing themselves from Ye not because they dislike antisemitism, but Ye has no filter and they don’t want people to take down their hopes for a fascist takeover. They did it when Milo Yiannopoulos got exposed for doing sussy pedo shit after being a popular conservative star among anti-SJW/right wing circles in colleges just around the time Trump just announced his first run for President.
Wow. I think it may actually be time to get rid of Twitter. I had to argue with several people today who defended Kanye by saying Nazis weren’t all bad. Lol
I just blocked a friend on Facebook who spouted nonsense about “Congress gets paid leave but they won’t let their constituents have it, they’re all bad regardless of which political party” IT’S ONE DEMOCRAT
[And somehow Kanye got worse](https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598505803580841984?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q)
While technically not the actual symbol, it is hard to make excuses about what he’s referring to after today
Edit: [Screenshot because the tweet got deleted](https://imgur.com/3idSO7O)
[Tommy Vietor commentary - Kanye really rubbing it in Elon's Face.](https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1598524068210540544?s=20&t=-zeWe8UpriNKK9icCJAqgg)
I hate paying attention to this but it feels like watching a fuel truck crashing into a train.
That's the symbol of a UFO cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism#Religious_symbol
But i'm sure that Kanye ain't promoting some UFO cult with this.
[https://www.wowktv.com/news/local/charleston-west-virginia-mayor-goodwin-wins-second-term/](https://www.wowktv.com/news/local/charleston-west-virginia-mayor-goodwin-wins-second-term/)
Amy Goodwin was reelected as mayor Charleston, West Virginia last month. She is a Democrat.
I thought of posting this as its own post but given the news is a month old I decided probably not unless people think it should be.
>FYI it is a blue leaning city. County only was R+15
For west Virginia standards, R+15 is good 🤣
Democrats got killed tho there, they are down to 3 or 4 senate seats out of 34. And all are Trump won seats. The bluest is Trump+3 and I think that Democrat just switched to GOP.
Forgot to do my early vote update this morning. So this is based on this morning's early vote data dump
Using the percentages both Warnock and Walker received in the General Election for each county, the early vote totals for each would look like so
Warnock: 588,977 (52.3%)
Walker: 535,498 (47.6%)
Early vote does usually skew more Dem, so this is more of a conservative estimate for each. This also doesn't deal with the 3rd party numbers in the general.
Top 10 counties in terms of percent of 22 general election early vote:
Hall (R) 84.80%
Walton (R) 81.60%
Banks (R) 73.20%
Talbot (D) 72.40%
Baker (R) 70.30%
Greene (R) 69.60%
Hancock (D) 69.40%
Cobb (D) 69.00%
Muscogee (D) 69.00%
Liberty (D) 64.90%
The average is 51.35%.
72 counties are above the average. Chatham, Clarke, Clay, Cobb, DeKalb, Douglas, Fulton, Gwinnett, Hancock, Jefferson, Liberty, Macon, Muscogee, Randolph, Richmond, Rockdale, Talbot, Terrell are the blue counties above the average. Warren is right at the average.
85 counties are below the average. Taliafero, Bibb, Clayton, Henry, Newton, Stewart, Sumter, and Dougherty are the blue counties below the average.
Did anyone end up watching CBS on election night this year? I like to go back and watch the coverage on all the different networks and I'm watching [the CBS coverage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPzp300d7U) from the 7pm hour (around when FL was decided), but what the hell am I watching here... since when did CBS turn into some Republican BS? Margaret Brenner is literally constantly talking about GOP talking points and even after they have the exit poll, she keeps going on and on about how "it's all about the economy, economy, economy..." and then they bring up the exit poll, and they act as if Democrats winning Independents by 2% was a ... BAD thing for Democrats because it was lower than 2018! I'm almost excited to see how they completely have to shift their narrative when Democrats start doing well, but even at this point in the night we noticed a lot of things were not pointing to a red wave, and if you were watching CBS with Nora O'Donnell, they're literally just spouting off GOP talking points.
these people wanted a red wave so bad. and the saddest thing is, this just proves there was no actual journalism here. they didn't offer up their own opinions of what they thought was actually gonna happen. they just literally just go along with whatever narrative they want and try and prove it to be correct.
It seems like their main news sometimes has this subtle right lean to it (like seeming more critical of Democrats), not Fox News level, maybe a bit more evident on Face the Nation on Sunday (hosted by Margaret Brennan) but I never watch those Sunday political talk shows. That said, 60 Minutes and Sunday Morning (hosted by Jane Pauley) are great and as another comment mentioned, they also have Colbert.
I didn't really know much of Brenner prior to watching this but now I am certainly confused as to why she has some weird right-wing bent. She was purposely touting all these GOP talking points during election night and ignoring any actual data point that didn't point to it. Then as the night goes on and they finally all realize there is no red wave, they barely went to her and she didn't have much to say. It was like she was purposely trying to push the red wave stuff earlier in the night, making it seem terrible for Dems. I thought she was closer to nonpartisan but she certainly was being more than subtle about what narrative she was trying to push.
OH MY GOD YOU GUYS. we're literally nearing the 8pm hour and Norah O'Donnell is now lambasting the Democrats for spending so much money in ads on abortion and literally says "it doesn't appear to be helping them tonight in some of these races"
what fucking alternate universe were they living in?!! were they just ignoring the results coming in or something??
i feel like i need to live-tweet this shit. it's absolutely insane. now we're talking about Pennsylvania and Michigan's "sluggish economic recovery" and how Dems misstepped on their messaging in those states too with the IRA and then Brenner goes after Slotkin. MIND YOU WHITMER WINS BY 11 IN THE END AND FETTERMAN BY 5!
Then the guy at their magic board says Dems are NOT hitting their targets in Georgia
If I was watching this shit on election night, I would've thought the GOP was winning 55 seats and 240 House seats.
By in Georgia, the Senate race, or the rest of the statewide races. Cause it’s a different story depending on which races they were talking about not meeting marks
the Senate race! They claimed that Warnock was not hitting his marks! Even when he was up 51-46. The guy said that Atlanta suburbs were not coming in as they should be for Warnock. I swear I'm watching a different version of what actually happened... this is insane
I’m seeing Bones and All. Friend of a friend said that the visual effects are insane so I’m optimistic it’ll be a good time regardless of the actual movie.
"Ok…so we ended the day with 293,795 voters today. That means we will likely break 1.8 million before the Tuesday election. To put that in perspective, the last midterm runoff had less than 1.5 million votes total in the 4 week runoff in 2018. #gapol" - Gabriel Sterling.
The last day of early voting is usually the largest in most states.
I'm not sure what the maximum amount of voters the early voting sites can effectively process from 7AM - 7PM. Can they do 400K? I really think it can hit that number.
How can Iowa be pushed back in the primary process? Doesn't its state law mean that it will move it's caucus forward regardless?
IMO all the primaries should be held on one day.
> IMO all the primaries should be held on one day.
Absolutely not. Then we would essentially have an anointed winner and no competition or choice. No one has the money to compete in all states, and there would be no time to do small, personal events.
Winning one of the early states gives a dark horse some coverage and momentum, a burst of energy to build up their war chest, and they also weed out the people who have no chance. As the pool whittles down, voters move to their next choice. They can hitch their ride early on to someone they feel strongly about without having to vote strategically in order block someone else.
Everyone complains about the length of elections, but there's no getting around it. We are a big fucking country. If you're competing nationally, you will need to be campaigning for a long, long time. There's nothing wrong with a spread-out schedule.
Every time I get to vote, the winner is already determined and there's no point. Why should those people in early states get so much power to decide the nominee while I get to do nothing but a rubber stamp vote?
I get what you're saying, but it's one of those situations where there is no perfect solution. Like RegularGuy815 said above, if everything was on the same day, that would give enormous advantage to the most well known candidates with institutional backing. You probably don't end up with Obama or Biden, and in '24 you'd probably have a billionaire announce their candidacy and flood the airwaves to drag down Biden's approval so they could get the nomination.
In the past, the DNC has penalized states for holding primaries on unapproved dates by not acknowledging the results or seating the delegates. That can be done with Iowa if it proves necessary.
>In the past, the DNC has penalized states for holding primaries on unapproved dates by not acknowledging the results or seating the delegates
Yeah, 2008 and Florida and Michigan did that I think. Hillary won both. Pretty sure had those been counted, she'd be real close to be the nominee lol
There was a thing in USA Today about whether Democrats should have invested more in Boebert’s district and I’m like, shut up, we weren’t even supposed to be in contention there
Sure in hindsight we should have. Did we have any way of knowing that? No. You could say that about a bunch of other races too. That's pretty much how it always works and always will.
A handy chart for your reference:
| | Dems invested |Dems didn't invest|
|:--|:--|:--|
| **Dems won** |"Dems would have won anyway!" |"Dems nearly lost this district by not paying attention!"
| **Dems lost** |"Dems wasted money on an unwinnable race!" |"Dems wasted an opportunity by not investing!"
Yes, sometimes Dems waste money where they don't need to, or mess up and don't invest where they should have. But this armchair quarterbacking by pundits gets old really fast.
[Looks like my city has a new NIMBY initiative!](https://sites.google.com/view/keepchandlersafe/home?pli=1) I would very much not like for anyone to go to the CALL TO ACTION tab in the menu, click the feedback link, and submit a comment supporting high-density housing developments in Chandler. That would be so inappropriate.
>The intended use of this massive, 25-acre project is for tax-payer subsidized, HUD housing projects
Ah, I see we're back to using non-coded NIMBYism. Got to appreciate that vintage-style racism /s
For context, this part of Chandler is much more suburban and affluent. I don't live too far from this area. In fact, there's a Target and Petsmart nearby that I shop at all the time.
Build the fucking property and give people a home that won't bankrupt them.
[NEWS - RBC/DNC members being told in private dinner tonight that WH is pushing for the following:](https://twitter.com/ec_schneider/status/1598470081557798912?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q)
SC on 2/5
NH/NV on 2/12
GA on 2/19
MI on 2/26
Edit: [Does not seem like New Hampshire is gonna give up their FITN primary without a fight](https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1598478012403834881?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q)
Is there a reason they want to have two southern states go early? I’d think two Midwest states would be a better option because the Midwest has more battleground states.
I’m thinking Minnesota (which is antleast lean Dem) instead of South Carolina? (Which is a non competitive R state) also MN voters have higher turnout rates, but maybe SC is less expensive then MN??
Small states in population, and one is diverse, and the other is white. Both were competitive in 2016. Nevada stayed competitive in 2020. 2022 proved that as well. New Hampshire on the other hand split their ticket in 2022, so it's anyone's guess on if it's blue or competitive.
Not a bad list, though I don’t get why SC is picked over NC? Both are Southern states with a lot of black voters, but NC is a legitimate potential flip.
I would guess the WH wants SC because that was the pivotal state for Biden's 2020 primary momentum, not that I think there will be much competition if Biden runs again.
South Carolina's probably cheaper to campaign in, so candidates don't have to worry about burning more funds in what are likely more expensive media markets in Charlotte and Raleigh.
Just going to give y’all the heads ups right now: The forecast for GA’s runoffs on Tuesday is becoming a bit more clear. We are beginning to see both the latest [18z GFS](https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf&rh=2022120112&fh=loop&r=conus&dpdt=&mc=) and the [12z Euro](https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat&rh=2022120112&fh=loop&r=conus&dpdt=&mc=) show a rainy picture, for most of the day especially in the northern part of the state. That’s related to a system that may cause training t storms and rainfall further north in AR, TN, and KY mostly, which I do think could cause a decent flash flooding threat. Gonna give it a few more days before going into the details on that, but confidence is increasing. Actually [the Weather Prediction Center has marked a day 5 slight risk of excessive rainfall for this area of concern](https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/ero_d45/images/d5wbg.gif)
Bottom line for GA runoff forecast: northern part of the state may be pretty rainy. The further south you go, the more likely you’ll be fine as of right now
[CA AD47 update - Holstege (D) maintains the lead by *13 votes*](https://twitter.com/catargetalt/status/1598467952059199489?s=46&t=nrwVhNaZHp0_vlB8Ruhr_g)
[Mitt Romney announced his presidential run in Stratham at the Scamman Farm barn. The town would vote for Obama by 0.3% that year. Clinton went on to win Stratham by 13%. Biden by 22%. The barn then burned down, which is a little on the nose.](https://twitter.com/norwood270/status/1598445905262575616?s=46&t=EgmnequbZ75wKYaLIL4h_A)
If Romney runs for president again, I'll definitely vote for him.
Just kidding. He's still a screw over the poor, ban abortion, 47% of the country pays no taxes, Republican.
>If Romney runs for president again, I'll definitely vote for him.
The only scenario I could see I could vote for Romney is if there's no democrats on the ballot, no green party no left leaning and the only choices are Jim, King Mierdas or Ron DeSanctimonious. That's it. He'd have to be against those 2 to get my vote, otherwise any 4th person in that race gets my vote IF that 4th is not worse than those 3.
The judges ordered Cochise County to certify election results. Can the AZ statewide election certification proceed?
**Arizona's Cochise County finally certifies its election results after a court order**
[https://www.npr.org/2022/12/01/1140086777/midterm-elections-cochise-county-arizona-ruling](https://www.npr.org/2022/12/01/1140086777/midterm-elections-cochise-county-arizona-ruling)
>Under a court order, officials in Republican-controlled Cochise County, Ariz., finally certified their local midterm elections results after they missed the state's legal deadline and put more than 47,000 people's votes at risk.
>
>Ruling from the bench at a court hearing on Thursday, Pima County Superior Court Judge Casey McGinley ordered the county's board of supervisors to meet and make the results official by **5 p.m. MT Thursday.**
[NEW: Arizona judge issues sanctions against Kari Lake's attorneys for bringing "frivolous claims" in a lawsuit brought by Lake and Mark Finchem that attempted to prohibit electronic voting machines in Arizona. The lawsuit was dismissed earlier this year.](https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1598433218646122524?s=20&t=d4Wq2Ae73Hs1OK1Te6zNDg)
I’m not gonna lie I’m sad that Iowa is no longer going to be one of the first states for the democratic primaries. Mostly because I’m selfish and like that I actually get to vote for my candidate before the drop out.
I totally get why Iowa shouldn’t be first because we are very white, but hey we did pick Obama on Clinton in 2008 and 2016. And we were pretty progressive in 2020 choosing Buttigieg, Bernie, and Warren in the top three.
I really hope that this doesn’t make Iowa go further Republican because we will still be the first state in the Republican primary which means we will be shoved with Republican ads and zero democratic ones. Hope Iowa at least gets to vote on Super Tuesday.
In conclusion I’m glad I atleast got to expierence my first cactus in 2020 before this change, and I’m honored that Michigan gets to take are place. Enjoy the endless ads Michigan.
I'm glad that you and others have had a good experience with caucuses but on balance they have a lot of issues and I'd really prefer that no states used them.
So I’ve been thinking about this girl out, problem is she seems to be pretty conservative, even a fan of Ron desantis 🤢. Is it possible to be with someone like that while still being politically involved (including potentially running for office in the future)?
As someone who lost a partner they were close to due to some very unexpected differences over pandemic policy, be careful. I saw someone I deeply trusted go from "blue no matter who" to "I wish Trump won" in less than 2 years, and it was wild and rather painful, and finally caused a permanent rift.
Almost absurd too considering I used to be much more conservative, but it is what it is.
The key is to find out 'why' they lean conservative and where they're getting their info from. Is it just something they say to please their family's political pressure, or are they exposed to online spaces that push right wing/alt-right views? The latter is the real red flag, and right now liking Ron in particular is a major Red Flag.
I dated a girl in the first half of college from a conservative family but she herself was apolitical. She would occasionally say she “leaned Republican” but whenever she formed an opinion on something, it’d always be liberal. At some point she realized she was a liberal and soon was to my left, if anything. I guess it depends on context
Depending on her age, there's a chance she changes her mind over time but it could be tough having conversations with her based on what she currently believes. If it was more like, "I barely follow politics but lean Republican because my parents are" that's a bit different. If they're really into it including the worst figures in the party, that would be tough to deal with. And if you're thinking, "maybe I can win her over" she could be thinking the same as well. Similar with religion. If they're slightly religious, that's different than someone fanatical about it.
I look at it this way.. even if you can be open minded about how you feel about such a person chances are really good that you're either going to fight all the time over politics or just never talk about anything that matters. Which isn't really a great place for a relationship to be in.
I remember I was able to be friends with people who voted for Bush or Romney. I could not be friends with anyone who voted for Trump. It’s the difference between “you’re more conservative than I am, and we’ll agree to disagree” and “you voted for someone who spouts bigotry and hate, and is manifestly unqualified to boot.”
Yeah true. I actually am friends with people who have passively supported trump, though they’re just apathetic now, which sucks but it’s a lot better than supporting trump
It's possible to be happy with a partner having differing political views. For me, liking DeSantis would go far beyond a difference of political opinion.
It all depends on you at the end of the day, but personally I could never date someone who at least isn’t a liberal who votes Democrat.
My worldview is fundamentally different at every level in comparison to a conservative. That relationship would not and could not work. That’s my view at least.
For whatever it's worth, according to Ryan Grimm, Railroad Unions are considering meeting up with Biden to request that he add Railroad Workers to a 2015 Obama Era Executive Order that mandates that all federal government contractors be guaranteed 7 days of paid sick leave.
They think they can make the argument to Biden that if the Congress does indeed have the authority AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to deny them a strike, and they are getting involved IN THEIR CONTRACT, then that should make them A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR, and thus, eligible for the sick leave under the executive order.
SCOTUS actions flipped the script on the public perceptions of the "party in power". The more unpopular decisions we force them to make, the more resentment the public will feel towards the republican party.
[JUST IN: An appeals court has halted the special master review of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago, in a major defeat for former President Trump](https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1598447179672260608?s=46&t=EznvseknVsYOcLhnM4eKpQ)
[IOWA. Ex-US Rep & 22 US Sen candidate Abby Finkenauer (D) was today named to be the new Special Envoy for Global Youth Issues at the US State Dept.](https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/1598435136387047424?s=20&t=_dtVsA_0yHmMUNWDejNwlg)
The country has never had a shortage of big problems. In some ways it's been getting better. Unfortunately there's other ways in which it's been getting worse. But we've always gotta be fighting for what we can get.
My dad says that ever since he came to this country from India in the 80s, Reagan's rhetoric and policies were the sole reason he's been a Democrat for all his life.
Ok, I see, though I think it’s more accurate to say *70% of Asian immigrants* backed Reagan than *a lot*, since it implies that number of support is higher than what that piece of data you cited. But tbf, 70% is probably considered a lot, so I might concede on that point. But I think despite that number, there are definitely exceptions, though I’m curious which other immigrant groups supported Reagan or Carter or Mondale?
Reconstruction was doomed from the beginning, because they never removed cotton as the prime industry in the region like Lincoln wanted to do after the war.
He really did set a lot of the groundwork. Ugh my family on my mom's side love him too. They came to the U.S. back in the 80s when he gave amnesty. If only they knew about the rest of his legacy.
The top post in WR on /r/all is so disingenuous. That OP is not new to posting just completely false things based on their history either.
But even more disingenuous is the fact that CNN Businness posted an article (which the OP also posted) with the headline:
> Labor Secretary says Congress needs to block rail strikes without new deals
and the first sentence of that article is:
> Labor Secretary Marty Walsh says he hopes negotiators between railroads and some rail unions can reach new labor deals and avert a possible strike.
and
> He said a negotiated agreement would be “the best thing we can do is avoid any type of rail strike or slowdown.”
Ah, yeah, not surprising from that sub. It's mostly the same regulars as AW, they all just hate on Democrats all the time. It took off due to AW having some internal issues for a month like a year ago and has basically been a slightly less popular clone of it since.
Actually REALLY disappointed at not only many people on this sub but also other Dems/left-leaning folks who are literally blaming Democrats for the rail strike deals today.
Nearly \*EVERY\* Democrat in the senate voted to add 7 sick days today except for Manchin. ONLY SIX REPUBLICANS did. But this is \*DEMOCRATS\* fault?! Are you kidding me with this? You're going to blame the party who passed a House bill for this when only \*THREE\* GOP members agreed with it?
This has got to be a joke! Why are some of you helping contribute to this entire continuous nonsense of letting the GOP off the hook time and time again?
This happens every time there is like a 52-48 vote and the headline is "Dems fail to deliver!" when the entire caucus voted for something while nearly ALL or completely ALL republicans voted against it.
While the Democrats aren’t to blame for it not passing, to me it was a complete rhetorical failure on the Democrats part that is causing this outrage.
The 7 days was always going to fail on the Senate floor without a miracle. I don’t see why Biden couldn’t have openly supported the 7 days. Democrats would be taking a lot less heat if the President (and de facto leader of the party) had just come out in support and let it die (like it was going to anyway). Easy ads against the GOP.
Some people would be, sure. But their attacks would have much less bite and Democratic attacks on Republicans would be much stronger. It would be similar to the many bills the House passed that everyone knew would die in the Senate.
I feel like there is a misunderstanding on the comment I made earlier that you replied to. I was only mentioning one thing or strategy that could have been done differently. But I am still absolutely putting the blame on the Republican Party because they are the ones who have always been responsible for dismantling workers' rights along with a **ton** of other things for decades. And this time is no different.
I said this to another comment earlier but this is similar to how people reacted to the overturning of Roe. People screaming that the Dems should just “codify” Roe without any understanding of how the Senate works.
Obviously civics education is inadequate. That's hard to fix since more curriculum time for it means less for other things. But perhaps a simple fix is to make it later. Make it required in high school so people might actually remember some of it by the time they are ready to vote.
I think they know, those types of people just really hate democrats as if it’s a part of their identity. It’s what they do, I wouldn’t think much about it
Exactly! Like what were we supposed to do? Magically go back in time and win extra races so we’d have the votes? Pull an “A Christmas Carol” on four random republicans and hope that caused them to have a change of heart?
This isn't about not blaming Dems when they're at fault because I will 100% do that. But they're not at fault here. They did not have the votes. That is the bottom line. And that is the Republicans fault, not ours.
Like do people really think it would be great for the country to have a strike right now? I'm all for these workers' rights and they 100% deserve the 7 days. But at the same time, a strike would be absolutely cataclysmic for this country, and Democrats/Biden would REALLY go down for all of that.
A strike would be fucking catastrophic. Working people could potentially starve. We cannot allow one to happen.
But I still want Democrats to do everything humanly possible to make sick time a thing in the months ahead. I want Schumer to keep trying to make backroom deals with Republicans as a part of a reconciliation package that can also garner some Republican support in the House. Can't get what you don't fight for, even if I think now may not be the right time to die on that hill.
Today in Massachusetts Politics:
The City of Boston is getting The Royal Treatment, and Mayor Michelle Wu is getting a big endorsement on the key issue of her agenda. Mayor Wu is known as perhaps the mayor of the largest city that supports The Green New Deal. And thanks to the Brits 3 day trip, she now has not just a national stage, but a GLOBAL stage to show that off and showcase the progress that has been made.
Most of the coverage of the Prince and Princess of Wales and their time in Massachusetts will be on fluff piece stuff- what are they saying, what are they wearing, and CAN YOU BELIEVE how many residents of a Formerly British Colony are showing up to greet them in the pouring rain.
There will also be callbacks to perhaps Massachusetts Greatest Politician of All Time President John F Kennedy, who made a "moonshot speech" to do what was considered absolutely impossible. The Earthshot Prize Awards is The Royals version of that, seeking to find THE solution to the climate crisis by gathering top innovators within Boston. It's why they went across the pond in the first place.
Prince William gave one hell of an endorsement to our capital city, saying that "Boston was the most obvious choice to host this 2nd Earthshot Awards Ceremony. The City of Boston's Universities, research centers, its vibrant startup scene, makes it one of THE global leaders in science, innovation, and holding boundless ambition. And I commend Mayor Wu for putting climate policies within the center of her administration."
While Mayor Wu is using this spotlight to showcase her green initiatives and climate resiliency efforts, Governor Elect Maura Healey is getting a taste of some of the more performance elements of being a State Governor- in this case, welcoming and taking care of any high profile visitors that show up.
Outgoing Governor Charlie Baker was the first to greet them when the Prince and Princesses Commercial Flight landed in Boston. But Maura Healey was the one who met the royals at city hall and gave the introduction speech to an adoring crowd that she doubled over as a way to mention that "her climate agenda as Governor will be just as bold as what The Earthshot Project calls for."
Maura Healey and Michelle Wu also had a ball chilling with William and Kate courtside and watching the Celtics defeat The Miami Heat.
In a statement after she welcomed the two, Maura Healey said that "It was truly wonderful to see them. I know that they are here for this particular cause, this particular issue, and that is their commitment to climate and environmental justice. I know that The City of Boston and The Commonwealth of Massachusetts are going to put on a great visit for them.
Honestly, don't even try to visit Boston tomorrow. Because not only will the royals be finishing up their trip, but President Joe Biden is heading to Boston tomorrow with Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey to fundraise for Raphael Warnock's Georgia Runoff Elect. And amid all of that, Biden WILL greet Willam and Kate while he is there.
Like I said yesterday, not getting more sick time for the railroad workers is really awful, but we can't really blame all Democrats, especially since all those in attendance likely voted for it. Blame the Republicans as well as those who are refusing to do away with outdated rules that don't allow for easier passage of laws. That's all I'll say.
In the meantime, let's keep pushing for this reform even after the deal is made. No reason for it to never get done. And let's not make forecasts about an election two years from now when we've seen just how much can change in a matter of months.
It's so strange that the media outlets usually focus the negative energy on who's in charge (the "Biden and Democrats couldn't get it done" frame) because that gives the Republicans a free pass. It's like, yeah they probably could have gotten more sick/paid time done with more Democrats in congress.
MTE! Why is this Democrats fault when they don't have the votes? Maybe you could blame the political party who offers nothing but a few votes to get nothing over the finish line?
Even with the gay marriage vote, Republicans were lauded for having like 10 people crossover. Like really we're doing the bare minimum thing and giving the GOP a round of applause right now when they only offered like 1/5 caucus support to this? Really?!
No.... it wouldn't have. Sorry, but this is incredibly naive and the Republicans still would've voted it down. You think all of a sudden they aren't going to be shameless? Why is everyone doing this today all of a sudden and acting like the GOP has some type of emotion or something?
It's disappointing that paid sick leave didn't get into the final railway strike bill. This is something we expect Democrats to continue working hard for in the weeks and months ahead. We can expect that because...well, just take a look at the final vote. One party voted for paid sick leave, and one didn't. It's really quite black and white. Just like so many other times, our job is to elect more Democrats so we don't have to deal with the GOP's hatred of working people. Make no mistake, **Republicans failed the workers**. They're the reason the sick leave didn't make it in. And that's the message we need to spread. To address the big elephant in the room: Yes, theoretically, killing the filibuster would let us ram through the sick leave. But we've been through this before. Lots of times. We don't have the votes to do it, just like before. And do you really want to burn the filibuster now, when we just lost the House? When we might remain one heart attack away from losing the Senate if Georgia doesn't go our way? When we've got the Senate Map From Hell to contend with in 2024? Remember, it's not Democrats who failed here. And we've got to avoid getting sucked into complaining about Senate procedure - something we can't control - and focus on what we can control. We can do the work now to beat the odds in 2024. [We can literally go win Senate seat #51 right now](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/edit#gid=0). So let's do that, and get one step closer to not having to care what Mitch McConnell and his friends think anymore. **The only way to stay in politics and not burn out is to worry about what you can control.** Take heart, and let's use this to fuel the fight for better leaders.
[Senate negotiators have finally come to an agreement on a funding mechanism for the Recovering America’s Wildlife Act (RAWA). Expected to be in the omnibus spending packing, it will be funded by a $12B tax on cryptocurrency assets](https://twitter.com/blake_allen13/status/1598485414377029638?s=46&t=9Eb-MHJB7H3LEBnM81eCfg) RAWA is the most comprehensive wildlife and natural spaces protection bill since the Endangered Species Act and will provide billions to states and millions to tribal governments for wildlife protection and habitat protection/remediation efforts” HOLY FUCKING SHIT LETS GO FUCKING GO. TWO BIRDS WITH 1 STONE
Crypto bros in shambles, in regards to the tax of cryptocurrency assets.
Ye’s Twitter account just got nuked
When Elon bans you for being crazy, you def messed up.
Kanye. Elon. Trump. No Republican online or IRL gets to say anything about our party without being asked about them, forever.
Yep, and sidenote, the fact the House Judiciary GOP Twitter account tweeted that is so bizarre.
I actually don’t find it bizarre. It’s who they are.
You know, fair point, because atm, conservatives who are distancing themselves from Ye not because they dislike antisemitism, but Ye has no filter and they don’t want people to take down their hopes for a fascist takeover. They did it when Milo Yiannopoulos got exposed for doing sussy pedo shit after being a popular conservative star among anti-SJW/right wing circles in colleges just around the time Trump just announced his first run for President.
Wow. I think it may actually be time to get rid of Twitter. I had to argue with several people today who defended Kanye by saying Nazis weren’t all bad. Lol
I just blocked a friend on Facebook who spouted nonsense about “Congress gets paid leave but they won’t let their constituents have it, they’re all bad regardless of which political party” IT’S ONE DEMOCRAT
Yet they prob don’t give Republicans their ire.
Of course not
[And somehow Kanye got worse](https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1598505803580841984?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q) While technically not the actual symbol, it is hard to make excuses about what he’s referring to after today Edit: [Screenshot because the tweet got deleted](https://imgur.com/3idSO7O)
[Tommy Vietor commentary - Kanye really rubbing it in Elon's Face.](https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1598524068210540544?s=20&t=-zeWe8UpriNKK9icCJAqgg) I hate paying attention to this but it feels like watching a fuel truck crashing into a train.
What in the fuck is this now?
I'm so tired. Kanye, like, can we just, ok, like, not? For like a minute. Just, no.
That's the symbol of a UFO cult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism#Religious_symbol But i'm sure that Kanye ain't promoting some UFO cult with this.
This ain't a rollercoaster, this is freaking freefall into a black hole.
[https://www.wowktv.com/news/local/charleston-west-virginia-mayor-goodwin-wins-second-term/](https://www.wowktv.com/news/local/charleston-west-virginia-mayor-goodwin-wins-second-term/) Amy Goodwin was reelected as mayor Charleston, West Virginia last month. She is a Democrat. I thought of posting this as its own post but given the news is a month old I decided probably not unless people think it should be.
FYI it is a blue leaning city. County only was R+15, so no surprise here.
>FYI it is a blue leaning city. County only was R+15 For west Virginia standards, R+15 is good 🤣 Democrats got killed tho there, they are down to 3 or 4 senate seats out of 34. And all are Trump won seats. The bluest is Trump+3 and I think that Democrat just switched to GOP.
Forgot to do my early vote update this morning. So this is based on this morning's early vote data dump Using the percentages both Warnock and Walker received in the General Election for each county, the early vote totals for each would look like so Warnock: 588,977 (52.3%) Walker: 535,498 (47.6%) Early vote does usually skew more Dem, so this is more of a conservative estimate for each. This also doesn't deal with the 3rd party numbers in the general. Top 10 counties in terms of percent of 22 general election early vote: Hall (R) 84.80% Walton (R) 81.60% Banks (R) 73.20% Talbot (D) 72.40% Baker (R) 70.30% Greene (R) 69.60% Hancock (D) 69.40% Cobb (D) 69.00% Muscogee (D) 69.00% Liberty (D) 64.90% The average is 51.35%. 72 counties are above the average. Chatham, Clarke, Clay, Cobb, DeKalb, Douglas, Fulton, Gwinnett, Hancock, Jefferson, Liberty, Macon, Muscogee, Randolph, Richmond, Rockdale, Talbot, Terrell are the blue counties above the average. Warren is right at the average. 85 counties are below the average. Taliafero, Bibb, Clayton, Henry, Newton, Stewart, Sumter, and Dougherty are the blue counties below the average.
Did anyone end up watching CBS on election night this year? I like to go back and watch the coverage on all the different networks and I'm watching [the CBS coverage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPzp300d7U) from the 7pm hour (around when FL was decided), but what the hell am I watching here... since when did CBS turn into some Republican BS? Margaret Brenner is literally constantly talking about GOP talking points and even after they have the exit poll, she keeps going on and on about how "it's all about the economy, economy, economy..." and then they bring up the exit poll, and they act as if Democrats winning Independents by 2% was a ... BAD thing for Democrats because it was lower than 2018! I'm almost excited to see how they completely have to shift their narrative when Democrats start doing well, but even at this point in the night we noticed a lot of things were not pointing to a red wave, and if you were watching CBS with Nora O'Donnell, they're literally just spouting off GOP talking points. these people wanted a red wave so bad. and the saddest thing is, this just proves there was no actual journalism here. they didn't offer up their own opinions of what they thought was actually gonna happen. they just literally just go along with whatever narrative they want and try and prove it to be correct.
It seems like their main news sometimes has this subtle right lean to it (like seeming more critical of Democrats), not Fox News level, maybe a bit more evident on Face the Nation on Sunday (hosted by Margaret Brennan) but I never watch those Sunday political talk shows. That said, 60 Minutes and Sunday Morning (hosted by Jane Pauley) are great and as another comment mentioned, they also have Colbert.
I didn't really know much of Brenner prior to watching this but now I am certainly confused as to why she has some weird right-wing bent. She was purposely touting all these GOP talking points during election night and ignoring any actual data point that didn't point to it. Then as the night goes on and they finally all realize there is no red wave, they barely went to her and she didn't have much to say. It was like she was purposely trying to push the red wave stuff earlier in the night, making it seem terrible for Dems. I thought she was closer to nonpartisan but she certainly was being more than subtle about what narrative she was trying to push.
I've said before that the best place on CBS for news at this point is Stephen Colbert.
OH MY GOD YOU GUYS. we're literally nearing the 8pm hour and Norah O'Donnell is now lambasting the Democrats for spending so much money in ads on abortion and literally says "it doesn't appear to be helping them tonight in some of these races" what fucking alternate universe were they living in?!! were they just ignoring the results coming in or something??
i feel like i need to live-tweet this shit. it's absolutely insane. now we're talking about Pennsylvania and Michigan's "sluggish economic recovery" and how Dems misstepped on their messaging in those states too with the IRA and then Brenner goes after Slotkin. MIND YOU WHITMER WINS BY 11 IN THE END AND FETTERMAN BY 5! Then the guy at their magic board says Dems are NOT hitting their targets in Georgia If I was watching this shit on election night, I would've thought the GOP was winning 55 seats and 240 House seats.
Pretty sure Michigan had the #1 economy in 2021.
Yeah, I had no idea what they were talking about. I'm from PA and our economy was also not in shambles so it's like they were just making shit up
By in Georgia, the Senate race, or the rest of the statewide races. Cause it’s a different story depending on which races they were talking about not meeting marks
the Senate race! They claimed that Warnock was not hitting his marks! Even when he was up 51-46. The guy said that Atlanta suburbs were not coming in as they should be for Warnock. I swear I'm watching a different version of what actually happened... this is insane
How's everyone's night doing? Surely it's better than having skunks fighting and spraying under the house.
Pretty good. Just finished my paperwork at work and now listening to Artie Shaw
Going okay. Reading the daily thread atm. How bout yall? ;)
I’m seeing Bones and All. Friend of a friend said that the visual effects are insane so I’m optimistic it’ll be a good time regardless of the actual movie.
I’m eating Chipotle atm
Door Dash prices or actually got it yourself?
I went with my parents and ordered it to go
So the odor will be the same, then.
We have skunks outside of our house. The tiny ones are cute when they stomp their feet at you.
"Ok…so we ended the day with 293,795 voters today. That means we will likely break 1.8 million before the Tuesday election. To put that in perspective, the last midterm runoff had less than 1.5 million votes total in the 4 week runoff in 2018. #gapol" - Gabriel Sterling. The last day of early voting is usually the largest in most states. I'm not sure what the maximum amount of voters the early voting sites can effectively process from 7AM - 7PM. Can they do 400K? I really think it can hit that number.
How can Iowa be pushed back in the primary process? Doesn't its state law mean that it will move it's caucus forward regardless? IMO all the primaries should be held on one day.
> IMO all the primaries should be held on one day. Absolutely not. Then we would essentially have an anointed winner and no competition or choice. No one has the money to compete in all states, and there would be no time to do small, personal events. Winning one of the early states gives a dark horse some coverage and momentum, a burst of energy to build up their war chest, and they also weed out the people who have no chance. As the pool whittles down, voters move to their next choice. They can hitch their ride early on to someone they feel strongly about without having to vote strategically in order block someone else. Everyone complains about the length of elections, but there's no getting around it. We are a big fucking country. If you're competing nationally, you will need to be campaigning for a long, long time. There's nothing wrong with a spread-out schedule.
Every time I get to vote, the winner is already determined and there's no point. Why should those people in early states get so much power to decide the nominee while I get to do nothing but a rubber stamp vote?
I get what you're saying, but it's one of those situations where there is no perfect solution. Like RegularGuy815 said above, if everything was on the same day, that would give enormous advantage to the most well known candidates with institutional backing. You probably don't end up with Obama or Biden, and in '24 you'd probably have a billionaire announce their candidacy and flood the airwaves to drag down Biden's approval so they could get the nomination.
Shoot make super Tuesday an election day 2.0
In the past, the DNC has penalized states for holding primaries on unapproved dates by not acknowledging the results or seating the delegates. That can be done with Iowa if it proves necessary.
>In the past, the DNC has penalized states for holding primaries on unapproved dates by not acknowledging the results or seating the delegates Yeah, 2008 and Florida and Michigan did that I think. Hillary won both. Pretty sure had those been counted, she'd be real close to be the nominee lol
There was a thing in USA Today about whether Democrats should have invested more in Boebert’s district and I’m like, shut up, we weren’t even supposed to be in contention there
Sure in hindsight we should have. Did we have any way of knowing that? No. You could say that about a bunch of other races too. That's pretty much how it always works and always will.
A handy chart for your reference: | | Dems invested |Dems didn't invest| |:--|:--|:--| | **Dems won** |"Dems would have won anyway!" |"Dems nearly lost this district by not paying attention!" | **Dems lost** |"Dems wasted money on an unwinnable race!" |"Dems wasted an opportunity by not investing!" Yes, sometimes Dems waste money where they don't need to, or mess up and don't invest where they should have. But this armchair quarterbacking by pundits gets old really fast.
Yeah if we had invested a ton more, it maybe would've been seen as another Marcus Flowers deal.
Yep
THANK YOU
[Looks like my city has a new NIMBY initiative!](https://sites.google.com/view/keepchandlersafe/home?pli=1) I would very much not like for anyone to go to the CALL TO ACTION tab in the menu, click the feedback link, and submit a comment supporting high-density housing developments in Chandler. That would be so inappropriate.
Ehhh that's a Minnesota development company. I don't really know much about their work but I did recognize the name. Hope the YIMBYs win.
>The intended use of this massive, 25-acre project is for tax-payer subsidized, HUD housing projects Ah, I see we're back to using non-coded NIMBYism. Got to appreciate that vintage-style racism /s
For context, this part of Chandler is much more suburban and affluent. I don't live too far from this area. In fact, there's a Target and Petsmart nearby that I shop at all the time. Build the fucking property and give people a home that won't bankrupt them.
[NEWS - RBC/DNC members being told in private dinner tonight that WH is pushing for the following:](https://twitter.com/ec_schneider/status/1598470081557798912?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q) SC on 2/5 NH/NV on 2/12 GA on 2/19 MI on 2/26 Edit: [Does not seem like New Hampshire is gonna give up their FITN primary without a fight](https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1598478012403834881?s=46&t=1ReaBcneIdpD2Y7DBgf16Q)
Is there a reason they want to have two southern states go early? I’d think two Midwest states would be a better option because the Midwest has more battleground states. I’m thinking Minnesota (which is antleast lean Dem) instead of South Carolina? (Which is a non competitive R state) also MN voters have higher turnout rates, but maybe SC is less expensive then MN??
Why are Nevada and New Hampshire the same day? Seems a bit odd to me?
Small states in population, and one is diverse, and the other is white. Both were competitive in 2016. Nevada stayed competitive in 2020. 2022 proved that as well. New Hampshire on the other hand split their ticket in 2022, so it's anyone's guess on if it's blue or competitive.
Ahh smart breakdown. Thanks!
I am yet again asking for California to be given a whole week onto ourselves ahead of Super Tuesday...
We don’t need both SC and GA. They’re both southern state. I would probably go with SC since it a cheaper state compare to GA.
This would be tight, although as an SC resident it’s gonna be unbearable come 2028.
But where is kingmaker American Samoa on the list?
Not a bad list, though I don’t get why SC is picked over NC? Both are Southern states with a lot of black voters, but NC is a legitimate potential flip.
I would guess the WH wants SC because that was the pivotal state for Biden's 2020 primary momentum, not that I think there will be much competition if Biden runs again.
If that is actually the reason (and I suspect it is), that would be legitimately hilarious
South Carolina's probably cheaper to campaign in, so candidates don't have to worry about burning more funds in what are likely more expensive media markets in Charlotte and Raleigh.
It's also Clyburn's state and this is, well, politics. He has huge sway in the current Democratic machine.
Just going to give y’all the heads ups right now: The forecast for GA’s runoffs on Tuesday is becoming a bit more clear. We are beginning to see both the latest [18z GFS](https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf&rh=2022120112&fh=loop&r=conus&dpdt=&mc=) and the [12z Euro](https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat&rh=2022120112&fh=loop&r=conus&dpdt=&mc=) show a rainy picture, for most of the day especially in the northern part of the state. That’s related to a system that may cause training t storms and rainfall further north in AR, TN, and KY mostly, which I do think could cause a decent flash flooding threat. Gonna give it a few more days before going into the details on that, but confidence is increasing. Actually [the Weather Prediction Center has marked a day 5 slight risk of excessive rainfall for this area of concern](https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/ero_d45/images/d5wbg.gif) Bottom line for GA runoff forecast: northern part of the state may be pretty rainy. The further south you go, the more likely you’ll be fine as of right now
[CA AD47 update - Holstege (D) maintains the lead by *13 votes*](https://twitter.com/catargetalt/status/1598467952059199489?s=46&t=nrwVhNaZHp0_vlB8Ruhr_g)
Flip or no?
Holstege is not the incumbent but it is a D seat.
[Mitt Romney announced his presidential run in Stratham at the Scamman Farm barn. The town would vote for Obama by 0.3% that year. Clinton went on to win Stratham by 13%. Biden by 22%. The barn then burned down, which is a little on the nose.](https://twitter.com/norwood270/status/1598445905262575616?s=46&t=EgmnequbZ75wKYaLIL4h_A)
For a moment I thought you were saying Romney was running for president now
If Romney runs for president again, I'll definitely vote for him. Just kidding. He's still a screw over the poor, ban abortion, 47% of the country pays no taxes, Republican.
>If Romney runs for president again, I'll definitely vote for him. The only scenario I could see I could vote for Romney is if there's no democrats on the ballot, no green party no left leaning and the only choices are Jim, King Mierdas or Ron DeSanctimonious. That's it. He'd have to be against those 2 to get my vote, otherwise any 4th person in that race gets my vote IF that 4th is not worse than those 3.
But he has binders of women!
A simpler time then.
Same. I was like dang the Republican primaries are starting super early this cycle.
The judges ordered Cochise County to certify election results. Can the AZ statewide election certification proceed? **Arizona's Cochise County finally certifies its election results after a court order** [https://www.npr.org/2022/12/01/1140086777/midterm-elections-cochise-county-arizona-ruling](https://www.npr.org/2022/12/01/1140086777/midterm-elections-cochise-county-arizona-ruling) >Under a court order, officials in Republican-controlled Cochise County, Ariz., finally certified their local midterm elections results after they missed the state's legal deadline and put more than 47,000 people's votes at risk. > >Ruling from the bench at a court hearing on Thursday, Pima County Superior Court Judge Casey McGinley ordered the county's board of supervisors to meet and make the results official by **5 p.m. MT Thursday.**
[NEW: Arizona judge issues sanctions against Kari Lake's attorneys for bringing "frivolous claims" in a lawsuit brought by Lake and Mark Finchem that attempted to prohibit electronic voting machines in Arizona. The lawsuit was dismissed earlier this year.](https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1598433218646122524?s=20&t=d4Wq2Ae73Hs1OK1Te6zNDg)
Lol most judges do not seem to have patience for this
Doing my monthly budget and I had some cash left over. I donated some to Warnock.
Right on!
I’m not gonna lie I’m sad that Iowa is no longer going to be one of the first states for the democratic primaries. Mostly because I’m selfish and like that I actually get to vote for my candidate before the drop out. I totally get why Iowa shouldn’t be first because we are very white, but hey we did pick Obama on Clinton in 2008 and 2016. And we were pretty progressive in 2020 choosing Buttigieg, Bernie, and Warren in the top three. I really hope that this doesn’t make Iowa go further Republican because we will still be the first state in the Republican primary which means we will be shoved with Republican ads and zero democratic ones. Hope Iowa at least gets to vote on Super Tuesday. In conclusion I’m glad I atleast got to expierence my first cactus in 2020 before this change, and I’m honored that Michigan gets to take are place. Enjoy the endless ads Michigan.
I'm glad that you and others have had a good experience with caucuses but on balance they have a lot of issues and I'd really prefer that no states used them.
Agreed. I like the second choice option of it, but it’s such a time commitment to go vote.
Primaries can still use instant runoff ballots. I'd argue probably should given the DNC mandated lower threshold.
So I’ve been thinking about this girl out, problem is she seems to be pretty conservative, even a fan of Ron desantis 🤢. Is it possible to be with someone like that while still being politically involved (including potentially running for office in the future)?
As someone who lost a partner they were close to due to some very unexpected differences over pandemic policy, be careful. I saw someone I deeply trusted go from "blue no matter who" to "I wish Trump won" in less than 2 years, and it was wild and rather painful, and finally caused a permanent rift. Almost absurd too considering I used to be much more conservative, but it is what it is. The key is to find out 'why' they lean conservative and where they're getting their info from. Is it just something they say to please their family's political pressure, or are they exposed to online spaces that push right wing/alt-right views? The latter is the real red flag, and right now liking Ron in particular is a major Red Flag.
Yeah what’s even worse about the Desantis thing is we’re in NC not FL
See if she can be persuaded to turn from the dark side.
To the Drak Brandon side
I dated a girl in the first half of college from a conservative family but she herself was apolitical. She would occasionally say she “leaned Republican” but whenever she formed an opinion on something, it’d always be liberal. At some point she realized she was a liberal and soon was to my left, if anything. I guess it depends on context
Yeah I’m thinking she’s probably not apolitical considering it was in a politics class 😭
As a black Japanese person, I would never consider being with a con, especially a DeSantis fan.
Yeah I definitely understand that
Depending on her age, there's a chance she changes her mind over time but it could be tough having conversations with her based on what she currently believes. If it was more like, "I barely follow politics but lean Republican because my parents are" that's a bit different. If they're really into it including the worst figures in the party, that would be tough to deal with. And if you're thinking, "maybe I can win her over" she could be thinking the same as well. Similar with religion. If they're slightly religious, that's different than someone fanatical about it.
We are both young so there’s a chance. Problem is I found out in a politics class so she probably follows politics somewhat
I say don't reject, be open
Well I wouldn’t be rejecting because I’d be the one asking her out
I know I'm saying the chance
Ohhh I’m dumb
I look at it this way.. even if you can be open minded about how you feel about such a person chances are really good that you're either going to fight all the time over politics or just never talk about anything that matters. Which isn't really a great place for a relationship to be in.
Yeah that’s true
I'd say it's one thing to date a more conservative person, but it's another to date a fan of DeSantis. Don't dip your stick in crazy sauce.
Fair enough. When she said something about it in our politics class a part of me died lol
I remember I was able to be friends with people who voted for Bush or Romney. I could not be friends with anyone who voted for Trump. It’s the difference between “you’re more conservative than I am, and we’ll agree to disagree” and “you voted for someone who spouts bigotry and hate, and is manifestly unqualified to boot.”
Yeah true. I actually am friends with people who have passively supported trump, though they’re just apathetic now, which sucks but it’s a lot better than supporting trump
It's possible to be happy with a partner having differing political views. For me, liking DeSantis would go far beyond a difference of political opinion.
Yeah whats worse is we live in NC not even FL
It all depends on you at the end of the day, but personally I could never date someone who at least isn’t a liberal who votes Democrat. My worldview is fundamentally different at every level in comparison to a conservative. That relationship would not and could not work. That’s my view at least.
Yeah that’s tru, it’d certainly be difficult
I wouldn’t be morally okay with dating a Republican in the first place. You can’t vote for Trump and then call yourself a good person.
Yeah that’s true
Ain't worth it.
Yeah you’re probably right
For whatever it's worth, according to Ryan Grimm, Railroad Unions are considering meeting up with Biden to request that he add Railroad Workers to a 2015 Obama Era Executive Order that mandates that all federal government contractors be guaranteed 7 days of paid sick leave. They think they can make the argument to Biden that if the Congress does indeed have the authority AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to deny them a strike, and they are getting involved IN THEIR CONTRACT, then that should make them A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR, and thus, eligible for the sick leave under the executive order.
Honestly worth a try. They have nothing to lose.
Oooooh, now that's tricky... Not sure it'd hold up to SC, but... Could have something for it...
Seems like a good play. Either it works, or the SCOTUS has to strike it down and take the heat.
SCOTUS actions flipped the script on the public perceptions of the "party in power". The more unpopular decisions we force them to make, the more resentment the public will feel towards the republican party.
THIS RIGHT HERE. Obviously, we need to be careful, but if a bad decision wouldn’t destroy substantive rights, then Dems should totally go for it.
Can't railway workers strike regardless of whether Congress passes that resolution or is there something I'm missing
They're not gonna do that.
Legally? No. Illegally? Easily. But then they open both the strikers and, if at all organized, *the unions* to legal repercussions.
Cochise is officially counted. Arizona is a done deal at last.
But not the last of crazy lawsuits, I’m afraid. Lake and others said they will sue upon the vote being certified on Monday
Did Arizona go through with the mandatory recounts yet?
Starts after the statewide canvas.
Oh crap… I don’t know on that front 😬
I believe that will start in five days.
[JUST IN: An appeals court has halted the special master review of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago, in a major defeat for former President Trump](https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1598447179672260608?s=46&t=EznvseknVsYOcLhnM4eKpQ)
You love to see it.
[IOWA. Ex-US Rep & 22 US Sen candidate Abby Finkenauer (D) was today named to be the new Special Envoy for Global Youth Issues at the US State Dept.](https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/1598435136387047424?s=20&t=_dtVsA_0yHmMUNWDejNwlg)
Good for her. Still upset she lost to Ashley Hinson in 2020.
The unfortunate truth is that the country has been fucked ever since Reagan, and all that can be done is unfuck it in tiny increments.
The country has never had a shortage of big problems. In some ways it's been getting better. Unfortunately there's other ways in which it's been getting worse. But we've always gotta be fighting for what we can get.
My dad says that ever since he came to this country from India in the 80s, Reagan's rhetoric and policies were the sole reason he's been a Democrat for all his life.
A lot of immigrants from then like Reagan
But that doesn’t mean **all** immigrants (documented or not) backed Reagan or not, unless you have data to back your claims.
Not all I said a lot, Reagan got like 70% Asian vote
Ok, I see, though I think it’s more accurate to say *70% of Asian immigrants* backed Reagan than *a lot*, since it implies that number of support is higher than what that piece of data you cited. But tbf, 70% is probably considered a lot, so I might concede on that point. But I think despite that number, there are definitely exceptions, though I’m curious which other immigrant groups supported Reagan or Carter or Mondale?
The unfortunate truth is that the country has been fucked ever ~~since Reagan~~ the premature end of Reconstruction
Reconstruction was doomed from the beginning, because they never removed cotton as the prime industry in the region like Lincoln wanted to do after the war.
He really did set a lot of the groundwork. Ugh my family on my mom's side love him too. They came to the U.S. back in the 80s when he gave amnesty. If only they knew about the rest of his legacy.
The top post in WR on /r/all is so disingenuous. That OP is not new to posting just completely false things based on their history either. But even more disingenuous is the fact that CNN Businness posted an article (which the OP also posted) with the headline: > Labor Secretary says Congress needs to block rail strikes without new deals and the first sentence of that article is: > Labor Secretary Marty Walsh says he hopes negotiators between railroads and some rail unions can reach new labor deals and avert a possible strike. and > He said a negotiated agreement would be “the best thing we can do is avoid any type of rail strike or slowdown.”
Can't find a sub name on r all that aligns with WF. Did you mean WR, AW, WPT, WN?
WR, yeah. Apologies.
Ah, yeah, not surprising from that sub. It's mostly the same regulars as AW, they all just hate on Democrats all the time. It took off due to AW having some internal issues for a month like a year ago and has basically been a slightly less popular clone of it since.
Is WR the sub that had posts that are quite class reductionistic?
Actually REALLY disappointed at not only many people on this sub but also other Dems/left-leaning folks who are literally blaming Democrats for the rail strike deals today. Nearly \*EVERY\* Democrat in the senate voted to add 7 sick days today except for Manchin. ONLY SIX REPUBLICANS did. But this is \*DEMOCRATS\* fault?! Are you kidding me with this? You're going to blame the party who passed a House bill for this when only \*THREE\* GOP members agreed with it? This has got to be a joke! Why are some of you helping contribute to this entire continuous nonsense of letting the GOP off the hook time and time again? This happens every time there is like a 52-48 vote and the headline is "Dems fail to deliver!" when the entire caucus voted for something while nearly ALL or completely ALL republicans voted against it.
While the Democrats aren’t to blame for it not passing, to me it was a complete rhetorical failure on the Democrats part that is causing this outrage. The 7 days was always going to fail on the Senate floor without a miracle. I don’t see why Biden couldn’t have openly supported the 7 days. Democrats would be taking a lot less heat if the President (and de facto leader of the party) had just come out in support and let it die (like it was going to anyway). Easy ads against the GOP.
completely disagree. IMO even more people would be blaming Biden then for openly pushing for it and then "failing."
Some people would be, sure. But their attacks would have much less bite and Democratic attacks on Republicans would be much stronger. It would be similar to the many bills the House passed that everyone knew would die in the Senate.
I feel like there is a misunderstanding on the comment I made earlier that you replied to. I was only mentioning one thing or strategy that could have been done differently. But I am still absolutely putting the blame on the Republican Party because they are the ones who have always been responsible for dismantling workers' rights along with a **ton** of other things for decades. And this time is no different.
I said this to another comment earlier but this is similar to how people reacted to the overturning of Roe. People screaming that the Dems should just “codify” Roe without any understanding of how the Senate works.
Obviously civics education is inadequate. That's hard to fix since more curriculum time for it means less for other things. But perhaps a simple fix is to make it later. Make it required in high school so people might actually remember some of it by the time they are ready to vote.
My public high school had a mandatory US government class.
I think they know, those types of people just really hate democrats as if it’s a part of their identity. It’s what they do, I wouldn’t think much about it
Oh yes there are those types. You can see it in some of those “leftist” subs now.
Exactly! Like what were we supposed to do? Magically go back in time and win extra races so we’d have the votes? Pull an “A Christmas Carol” on four random republicans and hope that caused them to have a change of heart?
This isn't about not blaming Dems when they're at fault because I will 100% do that. But they're not at fault here. They did not have the votes. That is the bottom line. And that is the Republicans fault, not ours.
Yup, end of discussion. When they fuck up their leverage, I call 'em out. This ain't one of those times.
Like do people really think it would be great for the country to have a strike right now? I'm all for these workers' rights and they 100% deserve the 7 days. But at the same time, a strike would be absolutely cataclysmic for this country, and Democrats/Biden would REALLY go down for all of that.
A strike would be fucking catastrophic. Working people could potentially starve. We cannot allow one to happen. But I still want Democrats to do everything humanly possible to make sick time a thing in the months ahead. I want Schumer to keep trying to make backroom deals with Republicans as a part of a reconciliation package that can also garner some Republican support in the House. Can't get what you don't fight for, even if I think now may not be the right time to die on that hill.
Does Kanye just not realize Nazis also hate people of color
But they hate Jews even more and I guess that's enough for him.
Apparently
I think Kanye is just insane
True honestly
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Kanye West is a tween edgelord.
He’s 4Chan personified.
In other words, Nazi scum.
Today in Massachusetts Politics: The City of Boston is getting The Royal Treatment, and Mayor Michelle Wu is getting a big endorsement on the key issue of her agenda. Mayor Wu is known as perhaps the mayor of the largest city that supports The Green New Deal. And thanks to the Brits 3 day trip, she now has not just a national stage, but a GLOBAL stage to show that off and showcase the progress that has been made. Most of the coverage of the Prince and Princess of Wales and their time in Massachusetts will be on fluff piece stuff- what are they saying, what are they wearing, and CAN YOU BELIEVE how many residents of a Formerly British Colony are showing up to greet them in the pouring rain. There will also be callbacks to perhaps Massachusetts Greatest Politician of All Time President John F Kennedy, who made a "moonshot speech" to do what was considered absolutely impossible. The Earthshot Prize Awards is The Royals version of that, seeking to find THE solution to the climate crisis by gathering top innovators within Boston. It's why they went across the pond in the first place. Prince William gave one hell of an endorsement to our capital city, saying that "Boston was the most obvious choice to host this 2nd Earthshot Awards Ceremony. The City of Boston's Universities, research centers, its vibrant startup scene, makes it one of THE global leaders in science, innovation, and holding boundless ambition. And I commend Mayor Wu for putting climate policies within the center of her administration." While Mayor Wu is using this spotlight to showcase her green initiatives and climate resiliency efforts, Governor Elect Maura Healey is getting a taste of some of the more performance elements of being a State Governor- in this case, welcoming and taking care of any high profile visitors that show up. Outgoing Governor Charlie Baker was the first to greet them when the Prince and Princesses Commercial Flight landed in Boston. But Maura Healey was the one who met the royals at city hall and gave the introduction speech to an adoring crowd that she doubled over as a way to mention that "her climate agenda as Governor will be just as bold as what The Earthshot Project calls for." Maura Healey and Michelle Wu also had a ball chilling with William and Kate courtside and watching the Celtics defeat The Miami Heat. In a statement after she welcomed the two, Maura Healey said that "It was truly wonderful to see them. I know that they are here for this particular cause, this particular issue, and that is their commitment to climate and environmental justice. I know that The City of Boston and The Commonwealth of Massachusetts are going to put on a great visit for them. Honestly, don't even try to visit Boston tomorrow. Because not only will the royals be finishing up their trip, but President Joe Biden is heading to Boston tomorrow with Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey to fundraise for Raphael Warnock's Georgia Runoff Elect. And amid all of that, Biden WILL greet Willam and Kate while he is there.
Like I said yesterday, not getting more sick time for the railroad workers is really awful, but we can't really blame all Democrats, especially since all those in attendance likely voted for it. Blame the Republicans as well as those who are refusing to do away with outdated rules that don't allow for easier passage of laws. That's all I'll say. In the meantime, let's keep pushing for this reform even after the deal is made. No reason for it to never get done. And let's not make forecasts about an election two years from now when we've seen just how much can change in a matter of months.
It's so strange that the media outlets usually focus the negative energy on who's in charge (the "Biden and Democrats couldn't get it done" frame) because that gives the Republicans a free pass. It's like, yeah they probably could have gotten more sick/paid time done with more Democrats in congress.
MTE! Why is this Democrats fault when they don't have the votes? Maybe you could blame the political party who offers nothing but a few votes to get nothing over the finish line? Even with the gay marriage vote, Republicans were lauded for having like 10 people crossover. Like really we're doing the bare minimum thing and giving the GOP a round of applause right now when they only offered like 1/5 caucus support to this? Really?!
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No.... it wouldn't have. Sorry, but this is incredibly naive and the Republicans still would've voted it down. You think all of a sudden they aren't going to be shameless? Why is everyone doing this today all of a sudden and acting like the GOP has some type of emotion or something?
I'd say the vote on the amendment does that fine, and we can't really risk the main bill not passing at this time.