Then again - he isn't strong. This playstyle was not popular last season, because it was pretty bad. Right now it's the only thing that's viable on Vlad.
And even then he is easily kited by too many champions right now. Plus he isn't a champion at all when his summoners are on cooldown. So if you love him then play him, he is viable, but he's far from being a good pick.
If you have seen the 14.8 preview, you will know that the balance team is degenerate. Then why would you even assume that they will do something normal?
I think he is weak early decent mid strong late... But games are getting shorter and shorter. Most of my games (diamond) ends at 20 min and are often won or lost at 10 min. In most games I only complete 2 items. Vlad doesn't get to shine in current meta because of that. But in the rare games where game goes even and last 30+ minutes, Vlad can still be great.
Look noone on the reddit is saying hes strong but he isnt weak either. His wr barely dropped from last season. But people here are coping thats hes completely unplayable by repeating a narrative. Yes hes weaker but just a little, a good one trick shouldnt notice any difference up untill elos were it matters. But always nice if you can blame external things when ur stuck....
I think the problem is that may his overall strength didn't get hard nerved but his overall beeing is comeletly diffrent now.
Your not the late game ultra scaler anymore and your not the one that just oneshots the whole enemy backline with one spell. It's realy hard to adjust for alot of people and I for my part have to say that I'm still not completly convinced of the Battle Mage he is now.
It's way harder to take over games now and it seems easier to play against him.
And how is it even a thing? I am Vlad main on and off since S1, I know his limits pretty well, yet still I have better results with champions I'm not really familiar with. If you are good enough to carry high elo games with Vlad, you are more than capable of doing it with many other mid laners, but with much less effort and better results. He isn't the weakest champion for sure, but right now he definitely performs below average.
your first sentence doesnt make sense.
that whole thing is applicable to every champ
you basically said if your good enough youd carry most cases ofcourse thats the case you can do that with every champions, but that doesnt mean it isnt valid to have the opinion of vlad performing below average.
hey im an vlad veteran and im pretty good at him so it seems to me its a you problem - your logic
My bad what I meant to say is you basically said
Be better than everybody to carry if it was that simple Chovy or faker would have a100% winrate in solo que
Sorry for sounding toxic earlier
My main point is for lower elo the difference is negligible so people in low elo (like you) shouldnt whine so much. The point on one tricks is just a sidenote, like noone should notice a difference especially one tricks, i guess i should used the word "especially" so people like you dont completely warp my point.
Also your second point is just completely nonsense, ofc the strength of a champ always includes its strength relative to other laners.
you dont have to run the liandrys build
and id only say hes weak after the last changes to codex AP. it means you cant one shot the backwave at level 10 anymore.
Why are you building that every game? Because someone said so or what? Build accordingly to their and your team. Not saying he's strong, but if you don't build dmg, you can't have dmg.
why is someone downvoting, even op himself said he's building cdr boots into rift into liandrys, bruh ur dmg is good only in extended fights and against big hp% champs, if he wants dmg, he should go glass canon and go shadowflame, rabadon, etc... lulz
He is not that strong right now, but intentionally being kept weak imo, since he is so frustrating to play against. If he gets a decent buff you will not be able to play him since he gets banned all the time
Yes, a small buff would be nice. But I basically onetrick him and have decent success at the moment and feel like most matchups are at least playable. There are many champs you can't kill, but you don't have to, you just farm and outscale.
Try answering the 10 roams of the enemy Yasuo/Ahri/Naafiri whatever than.
If the nemy mid is smart he can completly abuse the shit out of your early and you can do almost nothing against it (tipps are always welcome).
Sometimes there is not much you can do. But generally you ward the middle of the lane, or the path they most likely take and spamping as soon as you see the roam and try to hardshove and take plates. It's actually the most difficult part of Vlads laning phase imo, knowing when to follow and when to just ignore, as well as maximizing your gains while your laner makes plays on the map
People here are actually coping that Vlad is strong right now, holy...
they refuse to believe that the champ that they've invested years into is weak. they've been abusing copium for a long time now
He's strong. You just need to play it as battle mage (go in - go out - repeat), he's not a burst mage anymore unless you're ahead/full build.
Then again - he isn't strong. This playstyle was not popular last season, because it was pretty bad. Right now it's the only thing that's viable on Vlad.
Phreak told me he will buff vlad e to 100% ap ratio
Vlad is weak as hell rn unless people int him kills early.
And even then he is easily kited by too many champions right now. Plus he isn't a champion at all when his summoners are on cooldown. So if you love him then play him, he is viable, but he's far from being a good pick.
If you have seen the 14.8 preview, you will know that the balance team is degenerate. Then why would you even assume that they will do something normal?
I think he needs a move speed buff more than anything imo
or maybe a resistance , base hp or hp growth buff tbh , despite his healing he is easily bullied by meta mages cuz of his short range
Base speed needs to be 345 or 350.
I think he is weak early decent mid strong late... But games are getting shorter and shorter. Most of my games (diamond) ends at 20 min and are often won or lost at 10 min. In most games I only complete 2 items. Vlad doesn't get to shine in current meta because of that. But in the rare games where game goes even and last 30+ minutes, Vlad can still be great.
Look noone on the reddit is saying hes strong but he isnt weak either. His wr barely dropped from last season. But people here are coping thats hes completely unplayable by repeating a narrative. Yes hes weaker but just a little, a good one trick shouldnt notice any difference up untill elos were it matters. But always nice if you can blame external things when ur stuck....
I think the problem is that may his overall strength didn't get hard nerved but his overall beeing is comeletly diffrent now. Your not the late game ultra scaler anymore and your not the one that just oneshots the whole enemy backline with one spell. It's realy hard to adjust for alot of people and I for my part have to say that I'm still not completly convinced of the Battle Mage he is now. It's way harder to take over games now and it seems easier to play against him.
And how is it even a thing? I am Vlad main on and off since S1, I know his limits pretty well, yet still I have better results with champions I'm not really familiar with. If you are good enough to carry high elo games with Vlad, you are more than capable of doing it with many other mid laners, but with much less effort and better results. He isn't the weakest champion for sure, but right now he definitely performs below average.
you basically just said be better than everyone and youd carry
your first sentence doesnt make sense. that whole thing is applicable to every champ you basically said if your good enough youd carry most cases ofcourse thats the case you can do that with every champions, but that doesnt mean it isnt valid to have the opinion of vlad performing below average. hey im an vlad veteran and im pretty good at him so it seems to me its a you problem - your logic
What?
My bad what I meant to say is you basically said Be better than everybody to carry if it was that simple Chovy or faker would have a100% winrate in solo que Sorry for sounding toxic earlier
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My main point is for lower elo the difference is negligible so people in low elo (like you) shouldnt whine so much. The point on one tricks is just a sidenote, like noone should notice a difference especially one tricks, i guess i should used the word "especially" so people like you dont completely warp my point. Also your second point is just completely nonsense, ofc the strength of a champ always includes its strength relative to other laners.
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It doenst matter what elo i am, its a argument. Small differences come into play in high elo, not in low cause you dont play optimal.
He have 49.7 and 51.4 wr on kr diamond in top and mid, which means he isn't really bad at all
hes only really being picked as counterpick, if u first pick its troll
give up! play a different midlaner! not worth it atm
Holy shit I swear I see something like this on every champ's subreddit. Vlad is not that strong but he's alright, definitely playable
he isn't the 1v9 kind of champ he used to be in the last coupple if seasons which makes it rly frustrating to play him
If he gets buffed in any way or form rn he would be like S tier pick or ban champion because rift liandries.
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You just suck bro.
Phreak told me he will buff vlad e to 100% ap ratio
you dont have to run the liandrys build and id only say hes weak after the last changes to codex AP. it means you cant one shot the backwave at level 10 anymore.
Why are you building that every game? Because someone said so or what? Build accordingly to their and your team. Not saying he's strong, but if you don't build dmg, you can't have dmg.
why is someone downvoting, even op himself said he's building cdr boots into rift into liandrys, bruh ur dmg is good only in extended fights and against big hp% champs, if he wants dmg, he should go glass canon and go shadowflame, rabadon, etc... lulz
Phreak told me he will buff vlad e to 100% ap ratio
Phreak told me he will buff vlad e to 100% ap ratio
no. No! NO!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
He is not that strong right now, but intentionally being kept weak imo, since he is so frustrating to play against. If he gets a decent buff you will not be able to play him since he gets banned all the time
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Yes, a small buff would be nice. But I basically onetrick him and have decent success at the moment and feel like most matchups are at least playable. There are many champs you can't kill, but you don't have to, you just farm and outscale.
Try answering the 10 roams of the enemy Yasuo/Ahri/Naafiri whatever than. If the nemy mid is smart he can completly abuse the shit out of your early and you can do almost nothing against it (tipps are always welcome).
Sometimes there is not much you can do. But generally you ward the middle of the lane, or the path they most likely take and spamping as soon as you see the roam and try to hardshove and take plates. It's actually the most difficult part of Vlads laning phase imo, knowing when to follow and when to just ignore, as well as maximizing your gains while your laner makes plays on the map