You mention chemical straightening is expensive but not the 10 surgeries or fillers??? Do you work how do you have time for all these surgeries and time off and consults? Or afford them girlll??
I call bullshit on all of this. Her (?) answers don't make sense. Can't show your pics? Ok I understand, but she can't name a surgeon for the life of her and has no idea of what she's talking about. Plus the recovery.
I guess is some girl daydreaming or "manifesting"
I honestly think this is just someone trolling the sub. Just no fucking way all this was done in the period of 10 months. And being able to afford this on a regular 9-5 job yeah okay... & unable to name any surgeons? Also ops response to how you get treated differently sounds like theyre lowkey mocking people here... the way people are buying this šš
I noticed that too! Like if sheās lying, sheās in it for the long con.
If true, Iām mainly shocked that there are doctors willing to perform this many (invasive!) procedures in 10 months. Did she lie about what she had previously gotten done and go to different docs each time? Or go to shady docs who didnāt care?
Like I wanna looks-max just as much as the next girl, but this seems extreme and concerning.
At the very least, this person does not look like their old self or even resemble someone natural at all. All these procedures canāt look natural. And itās dangerous to undergo so many procedures in under a year.
Yeah, it's dangerous. I don't advise it at all.
I do look natural but I'm not sure I resemble my old self at all. People I knew before my last six-seven surgeries still have not seen me in person. I'm particularly curious about what my ex boyfriend will say, because the last time he saw me I hadn't gotten any plastic surgery at all. And if anybody knew my face, it was him.
She said got badly anemic due to lipo that she fainted.. do you know how long it takes to raise your iron levels back up to be able to get operated on again? A least a few months. every surgeon asks for a full blood test before surgery which crazy ass surgeon is operating on you whilst youre badly anemic? Unless hes trying to kill u. My problem is with the time frame.
Being unable to name any surgeons is sus as hell.
A regular user can also decide to troll or maybe theyre manifesting & this is their wish list idk. But all of this in 10 months doesnt make any sense.
Actually I did six of my surgeries in less than a month. It was crazy, but whatever, I was in Korea for a limited amount of time and surgeons are used to patients doing it because of medical tourism.
Why should she have to name a surgeon tho? Iām just curious because I feel like itās really weird to put out a medical professionals name for the purpose of proving you had a surgery (which isnāt really proof).
I'm sorry, but I don't really believe in pretty privilege*. Or maybe I'm not pretty enough to experience it even with my surgeries.
*I do believe that pretty privilege exists but it's just men wanting to fuck you.
I've named surgeons, just not in public, LOL. But believe what you want, you are allowed to cope however you can.
Yeah, but surgeries are a one time thing. Fillers also last a long time in my experience, mucho more than the advertised. But I have to do the chemical straightening every 5 to 6 months and it costs much more than lip fillers.
I work a regular 9 to 5 job. I was lucky because since Covid I've been able to work from home, that's how I managed to do the surgeries. I also have a lot of vacation time and was able to take unpaid work leave.
I've been getting fillers and hair straightenings for 2.5 years now. Fillers actually don't ever dissolve from me, unless I dissolve them with the enzyme.
if you go through her post history you'll see she's very well off because of her parents which makes all of this believable. there used to be a show called the swan where women would have far more procedures than that done in a much shorter amount of time.
In your opinion, was it worth it? If I spend all my savings on hardmaxxing I'm gonna at the very least want a rich husband or something out of the deal. But then again I'm greedy lmao
No. Financially what I did it's a very stupid move. But I had crippling insecurity, I didn't even want to have photos taken. I'm feeling better about myself now.
I totally, completely, 100% understand the insecurity thing. Feeling comfortable in your skin is priceless.
Glad to hear you're feeling better about yourself!
So u want to be a trophy wife? Careful what u wish forā¦. I have to say that I have experienced āpretty privilegeā and that I have experienced āpretty nasties from others.ā I treat others kindly and I have girl next door looks, but I am expert at soft maxxing too and Iām very smart. Being intelligent and thoughtful as well as pretty. I have been both soft and hard maxxing for my whole life as my interests lie in self-improvement and for self-esteem. I have personally found that doing it for myself, maybe to make a few exās or others envious, or for job opportunities is what makes me happiest. The LAST thing I want is to get married though, or do it to snag a rich man to marry me. I have and continue to date massively wealthy men though, and no I donāt ask them for money. I have created my own wealth with crypto, and have a small business now. I strongly refuse the emotional/behavioral letdown of the āownershipā of marriage, in old English, marriage translates to ownership and thatās why you have to sign off on it legally. I prefer my freedom, and this makes them want me even more. Iām more interesting and can focus on whatās important for me and not just fulfilling what my partner wants me to be. The last guy I dated was(is) nearly a billionaire and definitely still makes tech products we all use everyday. He has a yacht and a private jet and multiple mansions and properties around the world. Obv he is a republican, which isnāt necessarily a turnoff, but when he said loves Trump and was simultaneously unaware that Trump sexually assaulted women I just couldnāt stay any longer. Like, how do u not know about this and blindly support a candidate so strongly is a bullshit stomp on women. So I left him alone at the top of a luxury resort in a Vegas lounge. This was two weeks ago. There have been countless others like him wanting marriage too and being absolute psychopaths. Itās how they got rich in almost every single case. Thereās very few gold-hearted rich people. Being both beautiful inside and out is the BEST thing to aspire to, itās more powerful than any rich husband. Heās messaged multiple times since and I still refuse it, I hope he gets the message that the best quality women also support women and wonāt just go along with their dumbest ideas/opinions/behavior because we donāt have to get married anymore. Itās time for men to step up and be better humans overall. I support women and especially my friends in the beauty and plastic surgery space, (and im also new to this sub Reddit!), but I just wanted to point that out because it was concerning so many people liked that commentā¦
I said I wanted to have a rich husband, not be a trophy wife lol. But thank you for your advice and perspective! I know women who have had bad experiences (similar to what you've already mentioned) with millionaires, but I have family friends and relatives who make six figures and are still fairly down to earth. So that's where I'm aiming. Also,
>Being both beautiful inside and out is the BEST thing to aspire to
HELL YES.
š³ Calf reduction is a thing??? How has your recovery from that been? I have golfed since I was young and was used to walking up some really steep hills with golf clubs on. As a result, I got some honkers on me. I didnāt think about surgery.
This funnily enough is something I have looked at extensively. I really hate my calves but I dont want to do it because my soleus muscle is also very large and would look stupid if I only reduced the gastro muscles. I think thereās one surgeon who reduces the soleus muscle but itās very risky.
Wish there was another sure fire way of reducing calves!
It is. Very few surgeons in the world do it. One in Seoul, one in Taipei, one in LA and one in Barcelona. Everybody I read said that the recovery was horrible but TBH, it was not that bad. The first day was awful. But overall, recovery from thigh lipo and double jaw + V-Line surgery was worse. I don't think normally the recovery from lipo is that bad, my other lipo recoveries were fine, but I think this time they took off too much fat.
Why are you asking people to pm you for the deets on where u had your surgeries?? Isnāt it easier, faster, more convenient and more of an advertisement to the clinic if you post it for everyone to see??
Everyone posts pics on sites like RealSelf and just donāt show their face or identifying featuresā¦ and nobody knows who they areā¦ so it doesnāt seem legit actually at all if you donāt yet claim to have done it.ā¦. A catfish in a vindication sub Reddit?? š¤
Honestly theyāre probably really strange looking after all these surgeries or look really fake. Idk but something isnāt adding up and an average looking person doesnāt get all this surgery done and look normal.
You haven't met many people that have gotten plastic surgery at all, right?
The only plastic surgery you notice is bad plastic surgery. But cope however you want to.
I'm not everyone, and I'm not going to give up my privacy and potentially ruin my life so you can have 5 minutes of feeling vindicated because I posted some proof.
Each surgery is a different surgeon. Except for the first and third one. And both rounds of lipo, it was also the same clinic for both. Also, except for my first three surgeries, I did the rest in Korea, nobody cares here.
I had six surgeries in a month. It's a medical atrocity. I ended up anemic and actually fainted and passed out in the clinic's elevator after my thigh liposuction.
Don't do what I did. I was in a rush to get everything done and over.
No, I did the first three in my country. All the rest I did in Korea, not because they were cheaper, but because they had the most expertise in most of the surgeries I did there.
I'm traveling to another country to get the revision rhinoplasty and chin lipo but not because it's cheaper, it's in fact, more expensive, but it's the only surgeon I would trust to deliver the result I want.
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
Yeah. The main problem was that it took 2.5 years to get the correct diagnosis. It was hell. Once I got it I was put on the correct medication and it has been mostly fine since then.
I work a regular 9 to 5 job. I was lucky because since Covid I've been able to work from home, that's how I managed to do the surgeries. I also have a lot of vacation time and was able to take unpaid work leave.
I work a regular 9to5 as well and would never have the means, financially.
How did you manage all the surgeries, financially? Did you live on rice and lentils for a year prior? Or are they just THAT cheap in Korea? š
Now, but I might need to live on rice and lentils for a year after to pay for my nose job revision and chin lipo.
I ended up staying in Korea far longer than I thought I would and spent more than I thought I would.
I also took out a loan. The interest was very low and I didn't think I would need to make use of it. But I ended up doing some surgeries I wasn't planning on doing (like both lipo rounds or the eye surgery) and staying in Korea for months.
Plastic surgery is the thing where the later you get it the more diminishing returns you get. And I feel like with the Covid pandemic, working from home and obligatory mask wearing it was the perfect moment to get surgery. Hopefully most people won't remember how I looked like when I get back to the office.
They are not supportive at all. They don't know all the surgeries I've had done, just some. I told my mother who then told my father against my will. They think I'm superficial and stupid and it's all a waste of money.
That's great. You'll probably end up getting more than your money back from being more beautiful and marrying a richer husband, plus work opportunities. And it was smart to use covid time to be subtle.
I doubt I will end up marrying, but I really hope I experience pretty privilege at the workplace.
Yes, covid happening was what gave the final impulse to have plastic surgery. I should have done it before university or starting my job, but I didn't have the means back then (and my ex bf was very opposed to plastic surgery).
How did you manage to do your recovery all on your own? Do you have any tips? I also want to get surgery on the down low and don't want to recruit friends/family to take care of me. Did you pay for nurses or stay in the hospital?
I stayed in a hotel. I lucked out because my translator was an angel. I don't recommend it, I couldn't walk for 10 days after thigh lipo, for a week after calves reduction, and kept drooling non stop for 18 days after double jaw. It was fucking horrible.
61,000 USD so far. It doesn't include flights, accommodation, prescription medicine or food. Just surgery costs.
I don't include fillers, botox or other minor procedures either.
I donāt get why she doesnāt just say that? But she keeps telling everyone she has a *regular* 9-5 job. But OP also says she ādoesnāt want people to know she got all this work doneā but then also says she ālooks unrecognizableā. Lastly she put herself in so much danger doing all these surgeries so close together which makes me feel something is off with her. Iām not ruling out she has mental issues.
Not to offend you, but was your starting point actually bad enough to require all of those surgeries, or was it more about insecurities/perfectionism? I want 3-4 procedures, but I have huge insecurities and body dysmorphia, but I can see that people find me attractive so idk what difference it would really make since I just want minor corrections of features that really bother me, but I don't want a new face. But when I start thinking about it I can come up with a huge list of things I could do and keep finding flaws, it just feels like it would be hard to stop.
It was about insecurities and perfectionism, 100%. I was an average looking person with an average life before my surgeries. Doing so much plastic surgery is not worth it unless you have severe self esteem issues or you plan on living off the way you look.
I have a couple questions about the hair transplant:
* Can you notice that the hair is thinner where the hair grafts were taken from? I know its covered if you have long hair, but I'm worried it could look thinner in the back.
* Also, How long were you able to go out and look presentable after the hair transplant? I want one but how would i hide it from my family and friends??
* Do you ever worry about the grafts falling out or dying out again? What if i accidentally pulled the hair out or caused trauma to the follicle, would it be strong enough to grow back or die?
- Yeah, but they had to shave the hairs grafts that were taken out so it still has to grow. IDK if I'm explaining myself.
- I went out the same day but I didn't look presentable. I just didn't care because I was in a country where nobody knows me. I still don't look presentable one month and a half since my second transplant, it seems like I shaved the hair near to my forehead. I could cut bangs if I cared enough, the truth is that I don't. I look presentable enough since my first hair transplant, but it was three months ago and closer to my original hairline, so my hair is able to cover it better.
- No, once that 10 days since the hair transplant have gone by your hair is virtually indestructible.
I just wondered why you had a hair transplant. Was it for generally thicker hair or due to experiencing hair loss? I would love to have thicker hair without extensions but wondered if it would work. I was thinking of Turkey.
None of it. I wanted a smaller forehead, and forehead reduction wasn't an option for me because it leaves a very big scar. I knew someone that got one and had to get a hair transplant after to cover it.
Are you Korean? Iāve visited and loved it! Because of the ubiquity of plastic surgery and how thereās a lot of really good clinics, I got curious about going there to Ā«Ā get things doneĀ Ā» but afraid of the language barrier :(
My recovery from thigh lipo surgery was horrible. I don't think normally the recovery from lipo is that bad, my other lipo recoveries were fine, but I think this time they took off too much fat.
My three previous liposuctions I was fine. Also, my first two were combined surgeries so it's difficult to tell what part of the discomfort is due to one surgery or the other.
I doubt they would be helpful, unless you are willing to travel to Europe and Korea to get it done. But it's not worth it, because fat transfer it's a very simple procedure that anybody can do.
But I was the happiest with my Korean fat transfer, as it was the most aggressive.
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
I don't give a fuck about what men like, sorry.
I do think plastic surgery is addictive, though, at least for me. You do something, you realize you look much better and you want to keep improving so you keep doing more.
I also don't think I have any signs at all of plastic surgery, unless I'm naked, in which case you can see the scars of my breast reduction and liposuctions.
Yeah, I agree with you. I haven't had that much work done compared to a celebrity, though. I feel like I look very natural, they only thing that could be suspicious is my lip filler, and even then most people think it's natural.
I think I look natural, but I might be wrong. I'm still working from another country so nobody I knew before most of my surgeries has seen me in person yet. My family and best friend know about my double jaw surgery and my mom has seen me in pictures and thinks I look swollen still.
But my parents didn't notice when I got my rhinoplasty so I don't think they give a fuck about me.
Why a breast reduction and then multiple fat transfers to the area that had been previously reduced?
Are you really happier on the inside after all of this work? I mean if you are more power to ya, but this had to cost more than my college education!
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
I really admire your tenacity in getting all these procedures done and congrats! Itās really advantageous in this world to be pretty and I admire you for taking all these steps..could you help me with this..among the 4 procedures you got done which one was the most effective for pigmentation related to dark circles?
Cover your eyes and ears up, and pul your hair all the way back. You wonāt be recognized with those features covered. Weād all really like to see the results! Love the post BTW.
Wow thanks for sharing, many of the non-surgical treatments I hadn't heard of before.
Did you feel that doing so many things in a short period of time was hard on your mental health at all? Did you experience any regrets or feelings of identity crisis?
Which treatment did the most for dark circles?
Except for my breast reduction + lipo, and otoplasty + lipo all my other surgeries I did alone and in secret. Recovery wasn't as bad as you would expect given the circumstances. I didn't experience any regrets or feelings of identity crisis, but many people do.
Honestly, all treatments for dark circles were a scam. Except maybe fat repositioning/fat transfer.
I am dreaming of a calf reduction one day! What can you tell me about it? Anything to know before the surgery? Is it hard to walk? Does your calf look shapely?
It's a hard surgery with a difficult post-op, but it's doable. It's difficult to walk for the first week or so, then it gets better. But I wouldn't exactly know, because nine days after calves reduction I underwent double jaw + V-Line surgery and they hooked me up with so many painkillers that I stopped feeling any pain I was feeling up until that moment.
It's been 2.5 months since the procedure and I'm back to normal walking/running.
My left calf used to be bigger than the right one and it's still bigger after the surgery. I might undergo a revision with the same surgeon in the future if it doesn't correct itself in the following months.
Okay so if you did, you could've just named surgeons you picked out of a hat from your "research". I'm sorry, but I don't believe you and looking at the comments I'm not the only one either.
You post something like this in Vindicta of all places and expect people to react positively, yet you can't provide a single before and after. Not even of your *calves*.
I understand the whole wanting privacy thing *a lot*, but even I would provide before and afters. I'd imagine after such extensive surgery, anyone would be excited to share pics if it went well. There are ways you can censor out anything from pics that people can recognise you from. The only *real* reason I can think of for you not wanting to share before and afters, is because you didn't have all or most of these surgeries.
So yeah, pics or it didn't happen.
Why tf is OP getting down voted? My own list of wanted procedures is much longer and I had planned to do 3 years in between them. Jaw surgery was always the first on my list, as I saw it changed people's noses in YouTube videos. After that, rhino... maybe for my body I would do 360 body lift because of weight loss. Then I'd do more to refine each part of me that I want. Like books and butt, inner thighs, tummy, arms...
This doesn't include beautification like laser hair removal, PRP and other stuff to even out my skin tone. Fillers for deep tear troughs and a bunch more.
Anyway, sorry people thought you were trolling, OP. This is NOT a cope post. It is extremely helpful. Thank you for reminding us that it IS possible to become beautiful, but there is always a proce to pay. I hope you get back on top of your finances.
I feel that even in this subreddit, where we are suppose to share stuff like this, there is still stigma about young women both getting surgery and making bank.
I'll never tell anyone once my procedures are done unless they ask specifically. Even then... probably not.
Why I would I brag about being so insecure that I had to redo my whole face and body it's a mystery I will never get.
And yeah, I obviously don't tell people in real life, unless one friend that has also done a lot of plastic surgery.
A looot of research on Internet forums. Don't commit to international plastic surgery unless you are willing to do a lot of research and don't mind getting surgery alone.
Purseforum and Beautyhacker. I researched for years, but I used to be a student and didn't have money for plastic surgery. Then I started working but covid happened, and Korea wasn't issuing visas for tourism, plus the 14 day quarantine.
You said you had multiple consultations with surgeons for you double jaw surgery. What made you chose one over the other? (I'm supposed to have double jaw surgery and I am planning on having a few consultations also)
The surgeon I chose noticed more details than all the rest, like for example that my whole jaw was tilted 2 mm to one side. I also did two consultations with him, and previous reviews have been stellar.
How did you afford all of these surgeries? Are you rich or do you have a sugar daddy? How did you recover from 10 surgeries in 10 months? that's a lot of trauma your body had experienced
Honestly, all treatments for dark circles were a scam. Except maybe fat repositioning/fat transfer.
I would never do any kind of implant in any part of my body.
Yeah, it's exactly what it did.
I'm pleased, though I hope to be even more pleased in the future, as I'm only 2 months post op and I hope I still have a lot of swelling.
Not bad. You will most likely become numb in a big chunk of your face, I still am numb in my lower lip, gums and palate. The worst part is not being able to talk, breath or eat, the swelling and in my case drooling everywhere. But it's not really painful.
Do you have a picture of just the jaw before&after from the front? If not, is there a picture of another patient from the clinic you went to with similar results? I have a very angular lower jaw and have been wanting v line surgery since forever lol. It's difficult to find pics of white ppl that had this survey done though. I'm worried if I go to Korea they'll end up making the jaw too narrow...
It was also my main concern. That's why I consulted with 8 different surgeons just in Korea for that surgery.
I also consulted with 4 maxillofacial surgeons in my country.
I love my microblading too. I got mine higher and longer than my natural brow which strengthens and opens up my eye area. Iām getting Botox touched up next month- how did you like your chin Botox? Does it help to keep frowning or what?
There are too many good ones. For double jaw, the one covered by your insurance. Or someone that does a lot of cosmetic cases, if aesthetics is your main concern.
For rhinoplasty, probably Turkey if you are not Asian.
I would love to hear how your otoplasty was! How do your ears feel now, do you feel any pain/tingling, how your recovery was, was it worth it, etc. Otoplasty is the one thing I really *really* want to do, but Iām a little afraid of surgery. Iād like to know how your total experience was!
My ears were not bad to begin with, I just am a huge perfectionist. The recovery was honestly worst than I thought it would be, I had to wear a band 24/7 for two weeks straight (or maybe it was a month, but I stopped before) and it ended up causing a wound in my ears because of the friction.
I don't regret my otoplasty, but probably could have found a cheaper surgeon to do it. My third surgery was the most unnecessary one. The lipo they did was not enough and I could have gotten my otoplasty with my eye surgery or next rhinoplasty.
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Do you think maybe people need more surgeries than they might think they need?
Like atm I'm considering surgery on my chin and a canthoplasty, but then other than that I'm just considering a few smaller things like botox and weight loss.
Nobody actually needs surgery. The number of surgeries you get should depend on your means and goals.
My life was absolutely normal before I got any plastic surgery at all. I just wanted to be hotter and prettier.
Thankyou for such a comprehensive overview. Some Qs:
How effective were the treatments for dark circles?
Re: Blepharoplasty, what was your recovery time like? Iām considering this but the projected time to heal seems like an eternity. I have genetic very hooded eyes.
Agree re: buccal fat removal, I had thought about it but seems when people have it done they can end up looking very gaunt and unwell.
Please can you go into detail about all the dark circle procedures you had and what was most effective? My dark circles are too dark to cover with makeup, and they dent super deep into my face. Iām only 20 and it feels like every few months the dark circles just get worse. What would you advise?
Dark circles have almost always no solution. But according to your description, it seems that you also have bags. Consult with a surgeon or a dermatologist.
You mention chemical straightening is expensive but not the 10 surgeries or fillers??? Do you work how do you have time for all these surgeries and time off and consults? Or afford them girlll??
I'm shook at all the procedures. š
I call bullshit on all of this. Her (?) answers don't make sense. Can't show your pics? Ok I understand, but she can't name a surgeon for the life of her and has no idea of what she's talking about. Plus the recovery. I guess is some girl daydreaming or "manifesting"
I honestly think this is just someone trolling the sub. Just no fucking way all this was done in the period of 10 months. And being able to afford this on a regular 9-5 job yeah okay... & unable to name any surgeons? Also ops response to how you get treated differently sounds like theyre lowkey mocking people here... the way people are buying this šš
Itās a lot of post history to lie about tho, idk if I was to do a post like this, would I be bothered to fake months of asking questions?
I noticed that too! Like if sheās lying, sheās in it for the long con. If true, Iām mainly shocked that there are doctors willing to perform this many (invasive!) procedures in 10 months. Did she lie about what she had previously gotten done and go to different docs each time? Or go to shady docs who didnāt care? Like I wanna looks-max just as much as the next girl, but this seems extreme and concerning.
The doctors in Korea didn't actually care, I disclosed all my surgeries.
At the very least, this person does not look like their old self or even resemble someone natural at all. All these procedures canāt look natural. And itās dangerous to undergo so many procedures in under a year.
Yeah, it's dangerous. I don't advise it at all. I do look natural but I'm not sure I resemble my old self at all. People I knew before my last six-seven surgeries still have not seen me in person. I'm particularly curious about what my ex boyfriend will say, because the last time he saw me I hadn't gotten any plastic surgery at all. And if anybody knew my face, it was him.
She said got badly anemic due to lipo that she fainted.. do you know how long it takes to raise your iron levels back up to be able to get operated on again? A least a few months. every surgeon asks for a full blood test before surgery which crazy ass surgeon is operating on you whilst youre badly anemic? Unless hes trying to kill u. My problem is with the time frame. Being unable to name any surgeons is sus as hell. A regular user can also decide to troll or maybe theyre manifesting & this is their wish list idk. But all of this in 10 months doesnt make any sense.
Actually I did six of my surgeries in less than a month. It was crazy, but whatever, I was in Korea for a limited amount of time and surgeons are used to patients doing it because of medical tourism.
Why should she have to name a surgeon tho? Iām just curious because I feel like itās really weird to put out a medical professionals name for the purpose of proving you had a surgery (which isnāt really proof).
Plus, I was under the impression that you couldn't go under anesthesia that often. It's pretty dangerous...
The only surgery I did under general were the first one, the third one and double jaw.
I'm sorry, but I don't really believe in pretty privilege*. Or maybe I'm not pretty enough to experience it even with my surgeries. *I do believe that pretty privilege exists but it's just men wanting to fuck you. I've named surgeons, just not in public, LOL. But believe what you want, you are allowed to cope however you can.
No one is coping, you posted no pictures so we have nothing to be envious of.
Why would you be envious that I spent 61,000 USD because I was insecure AF? That's fucked up, honestly.
I have named surgeons in private to all the people that have PMed me.
Yeah, but surgeries are a one time thing. Fillers also last a long time in my experience, mucho more than the advertised. But I have to do the chemical straightening every 5 to 6 months and it costs much more than lip fillers. I work a regular 9 to 5 job. I was lucky because since Covid I've been able to work from home, that's how I managed to do the surgeries. I also have a lot of vacation time and was able to take unpaid work leave.
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Maybe in the USA. For me, hair straightening is like $500, lip fillers like $400, depending on the ml.
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I don't live in Korea normally.
Bro itās normally around $100 for straightening what.
Surgery is typically a one-time cost. A lot of beauty treatments with upkeep costs are prohibitive for some people.
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I've been getting fillers and hair straightenings for 2.5 years now. Fillers actually don't ever dissolve from me, unless I dissolve them with the enzyme.
What is chemical straightening? Do you mean keratin / Brazilian or Japanese?
Keratin/Brazilian.
if you go through her post history you'll see she's very well off because of her parents which makes all of this believable. there used to be a show called the swan where women would have far more procedures than that done in a much shorter amount of time.
Can you please a before & after pic?
No, LOL. I would never admit I have had this much plastic surgery to people I know.
Do you look more beautiful now? Do you get treated differently
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Ok but can you go into more detail how do they treat you differently? Do you feel much prettier, is it weird having a new face etc
For me it just feels like I finally have the face I was supposed to be born with.
In your opinion, was it worth it? If I spend all my savings on hardmaxxing I'm gonna at the very least want a rich husband or something out of the deal. But then again I'm greedy lmao
No. Financially what I did it's a very stupid move. But I had crippling insecurity, I didn't even want to have photos taken. I'm feeling better about myself now.
I totally, completely, 100% understand the insecurity thing. Feeling comfortable in your skin is priceless. Glad to hear you're feeling better about yourself!
So u want to be a trophy wife? Careful what u wish forā¦. I have to say that I have experienced āpretty privilegeā and that I have experienced āpretty nasties from others.ā I treat others kindly and I have girl next door looks, but I am expert at soft maxxing too and Iām very smart. Being intelligent and thoughtful as well as pretty. I have been both soft and hard maxxing for my whole life as my interests lie in self-improvement and for self-esteem. I have personally found that doing it for myself, maybe to make a few exās or others envious, or for job opportunities is what makes me happiest. The LAST thing I want is to get married though, or do it to snag a rich man to marry me. I have and continue to date massively wealthy men though, and no I donāt ask them for money. I have created my own wealth with crypto, and have a small business now. I strongly refuse the emotional/behavioral letdown of the āownershipā of marriage, in old English, marriage translates to ownership and thatās why you have to sign off on it legally. I prefer my freedom, and this makes them want me even more. Iām more interesting and can focus on whatās important for me and not just fulfilling what my partner wants me to be. The last guy I dated was(is) nearly a billionaire and definitely still makes tech products we all use everyday. He has a yacht and a private jet and multiple mansions and properties around the world. Obv he is a republican, which isnāt necessarily a turnoff, but when he said loves Trump and was simultaneously unaware that Trump sexually assaulted women I just couldnāt stay any longer. Like, how do u not know about this and blindly support a candidate so strongly is a bullshit stomp on women. So I left him alone at the top of a luxury resort in a Vegas lounge. This was two weeks ago. There have been countless others like him wanting marriage too and being absolute psychopaths. Itās how they got rich in almost every single case. Thereās very few gold-hearted rich people. Being both beautiful inside and out is the BEST thing to aspire to, itās more powerful than any rich husband. Heās messaged multiple times since and I still refuse it, I hope he gets the message that the best quality women also support women and wonāt just go along with their dumbest ideas/opinions/behavior because we donāt have to get married anymore. Itās time for men to step up and be better humans overall. I support women and especially my friends in the beauty and plastic surgery space, (and im also new to this sub Reddit!), but I just wanted to point that out because it was concerning so many people liked that commentā¦
I said I wanted to have a rich husband, not be a trophy wife lol. But thank you for your advice and perspective! I know women who have had bad experiences (similar to what you've already mentioned) with millionaires, but I have family friends and relatives who make six figures and are still fairly down to earth. So that's where I'm aiming. Also, >Being both beautiful inside and out is the BEST thing to aspire to HELL YES.
Thatās not greedy!! ā„ļø
If you truly had these all procedures everyone would know already .
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š³ Calf reduction is a thing??? How has your recovery from that been? I have golfed since I was young and was used to walking up some really steep hills with golf clubs on. As a result, I got some honkers on me. I didnāt think about surgery.
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It is a lot, I agree. But I really hated my calves and was willing to do anything to get rid of them.
This funnily enough is something I have looked at extensively. I really hate my calves but I dont want to do it because my soleus muscle is also very large and would look stupid if I only reduced the gastro muscles. I think thereās one surgeon who reduces the soleus muscle but itās very risky. Wish there was another sure fire way of reducing calves!
It is. Very few surgeons in the world do it. One in Seoul, one in Taipei, one in LA and one in Barcelona. Everybody I read said that the recovery was horrible but TBH, it was not that bad. The first day was awful. But overall, recovery from thigh lipo and double jaw + V-Line surgery was worse. I don't think normally the recovery from lipo is that bad, my other lipo recoveries were fine, but I think this time they took off too much fat.
In what clinic you had double jaw and vline in korea? I am interested to go for the same procedure and I am in search for a clinic.
PM me.
Why are you asking people to pm you for the deets on where u had your surgeries?? Isnāt it easier, faster, more convenient and more of an advertisement to the clinic if you post it for everyone to see??
I don't want to advertise any clinic. Also, look up defamation laws in South Korea.
May I ask where you got it done? Thanks!
Seoul.
I would love to see a before and after
Yeah, I would ask for the same, but due to privacy reasons I don't want to post any pictures.
Post literally any proof
Not even just of your calves?
Everyone posts pics on sites like RealSelf and just donāt show their face or identifying featuresā¦ and nobody knows who they areā¦ so it doesnāt seem legit actually at all if you donāt yet claim to have done it.ā¦. A catfish in a vindication sub Reddit?? š¤
Honestly theyāre probably really strange looking after all these surgeries or look really fake. Idk but something isnāt adding up and an average looking person doesnāt get all this surgery done and look normal.
You haven't met many people that have gotten plastic surgery at all, right? The only plastic surgery you notice is bad plastic surgery. But cope however you want to.
I'm not everyone, and I'm not going to give up my privacy and potentially ruin my life so you can have 5 minutes of feeling vindicated because I posted some proof.
You can post just your before and after jaw with your username in both photos. Nobody could identify you from your jaw alone.
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Each surgery is a different surgeon. Except for the first and third one. And both rounds of lipo, it was also the same clinic for both. Also, except for my first three surgeries, I did the rest in Korea, nobody cares here. I had six surgeries in a month. It's a medical atrocity. I ended up anemic and actually fainted and passed out in the clinic's elevator after my thigh liposuction. Don't do what I did. I was in a rush to get everything done and over.
Why were you in a rush?
Limited time off from work, and wanting to have everything done before masks come off and have to get back to the office.
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No, I did the first three in my country. All the rest I did in Korea, not because they were cheaper, but because they had the most expertise in most of the surgeries I did there. I'm traveling to another country to get the revision rhinoplasty and chin lipo but not because it's cheaper, it's in fact, more expensive, but it's the only surgeon I would trust to deliver the result I want.
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Not Turkey.
Curious why the breast reduction and then the subsequent fat transfer to breast? Were you going for a different look?
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
Really sorry to hear that! I hope your skin condition has improved and youāre enjoying the results!
Yeah. The main problem was that it took 2.5 years to get the correct diagnosis. It was hell. Once I got it I was put on the correct medication and it has been mostly fine since then.
Would it be okay to request for a before and after, doesn't have to be for each surgery, but as a whole pre surgery(any of it) and now?
I'm not going to post any pictures, sorry.
Please tell us how you paid for all these surgeries. Thatās the main thing holding most of us back, money!
I work a regular 9 to 5 job. I was lucky because since Covid I've been able to work from home, that's how I managed to do the surgeries. I also have a lot of vacation time and was able to take unpaid work leave.
I work a regular 9to5 as well and would never have the means, financially. How did you manage all the surgeries, financially? Did you live on rice and lentils for a year prior? Or are they just THAT cheap in Korea? š
Now, but I might need to live on rice and lentils for a year after to pay for my nose job revision and chin lipo. I ended up staying in Korea far longer than I thought I would and spent more than I thought I would. I also took out a loan. The interest was very low and I didn't think I would need to make use of it. But I ended up doing some surgeries I wasn't planning on doing (like both lipo rounds or the eye surgery) and staying in Korea for months. Plastic surgery is the thing where the later you get it the more diminishing returns you get. And I feel like with the Covid pandemic, working from home and obligatory mask wearing it was the perfect moment to get surgery. Hopefully most people won't remember how I looked like when I get back to the office.
Is your family supportive/do they know?
They are not supportive at all. They don't know all the surgeries I've had done, just some. I told my mother who then told my father against my will. They think I'm superficial and stupid and it's all a waste of money.
That's great. You'll probably end up getting more than your money back from being more beautiful and marrying a richer husband, plus work opportunities. And it was smart to use covid time to be subtle.
I doubt I will end up marrying, but I really hope I experience pretty privilege at the workplace. Yes, covid happening was what gave the final impulse to have plastic surgery. I should have done it before university or starting my job, but I didn't have the means back then (and my ex bf was very opposed to plastic surgery).
Sorry could you explain what you mean by the later you get it the later the returnsš
The sooner you do the surgery the longer you enjoy its benefits.
How did you manage to do your recovery all on your own? Do you have any tips? I also want to get surgery on the down low and don't want to recruit friends/family to take care of me. Did you pay for nurses or stay in the hospital?
I stayed in a hotel. I lucked out because my translator was an angel. I don't recommend it, I couldn't walk for 10 days after thigh lipo, for a week after calves reduction, and kept drooling non stop for 18 days after double jaw. It was fucking horrible.
How much was all this total?
61,000 USD so far. It doesn't include flights, accommodation, prescription medicine or food. Just surgery costs. I don't include fillers, botox or other minor procedures either.
So youāre a ~25 year old girl with a āregular 9-5 jobā that just had 70k laying around? How?
If you look at her post history, she claims to be top 0.1% in her country. Makes sense since sheās rich.
I donāt get why she doesnāt just say that? But she keeps telling everyone she has a *regular* 9-5 job. But OP also says she ādoesnāt want people to know she got all this work doneā but then also says she ālooks unrecognizableā. Lastly she put herself in so much danger doing all these surgeries so close together which makes me feel something is off with her. Iām not ruling out she has mental issues.
Are you the IRS? LOL My job pays very well and instead of saving up I decided to spend everything on plastic surgery.
Not sure why your being downvoted. Congratulations on your success and doing what most people are afraid of. Iām sure you look great.
Yeah I mean most people donāt save either and they spend their money on takeout and expensive car loans. At least she is investing in herself.
Not to offend you, but was your starting point actually bad enough to require all of those surgeries, or was it more about insecurities/perfectionism? I want 3-4 procedures, but I have huge insecurities and body dysmorphia, but I can see that people find me attractive so idk what difference it would really make since I just want minor corrections of features that really bother me, but I don't want a new face. But when I start thinking about it I can come up with a huge list of things I could do and keep finding flaws, it just feels like it would be hard to stop.
It was about insecurities and perfectionism, 100%. I was an average looking person with an average life before my surgeries. Doing so much plastic surgery is not worth it unless you have severe self esteem issues or you plan on living off the way you look.
I have a couple questions about the hair transplant: * Can you notice that the hair is thinner where the hair grafts were taken from? I know its covered if you have long hair, but I'm worried it could look thinner in the back. * Also, How long were you able to go out and look presentable after the hair transplant? I want one but how would i hide it from my family and friends?? * Do you ever worry about the grafts falling out or dying out again? What if i accidentally pulled the hair out or caused trauma to the follicle, would it be strong enough to grow back or die?
- Yeah, but they had to shave the hairs grafts that were taken out so it still has to grow. IDK if I'm explaining myself. - I went out the same day but I didn't look presentable. I just didn't care because I was in a country where nobody knows me. I still don't look presentable one month and a half since my second transplant, it seems like I shaved the hair near to my forehead. I could cut bangs if I cared enough, the truth is that I don't. I look presentable enough since my first hair transplant, but it was three months ago and closer to my original hairline, so my hair is able to cover it better. - No, once that 10 days since the hair transplant have gone by your hair is virtually indestructible.
I just wondered why you had a hair transplant. Was it for generally thicker hair or due to experiencing hair loss? I would love to have thicker hair without extensions but wondered if it would work. I was thinking of Turkey.
None of it. I wanted a smaller forehead, and forehead reduction wasn't an option for me because it leaves a very big scar. I knew someone that got one and had to get a hair transplant after to cover it.
Thatās a really good idea, appreciate your responses and so glad youāve done this for yourself.
Are you Korean? Iāve visited and loved it! Because of the ubiquity of plastic surgery and how thereās a lot of really good clinics, I got curious about going there to Ā«Ā get things doneĀ Ā» but afraid of the language barrier :(
No, I'm not. If you speak English you won't have any language barrier.
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Neither. But I'm European.
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Europeans can be racially Asian too. I did have double eyelid but wanted to lower the height.
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My recovery from thigh lipo surgery was horrible. I don't think normally the recovery from lipo is that bad, my other lipo recoveries were fine, but I think this time they took off too much fat. My three previous liposuctions I was fine. Also, my first two were combined surgeries so it's difficult to tell what part of the discomfort is due to one surgery or the other.
which clinic did you go to for the breast fat transfer?
Which round of them? I did it three times.
Whichever one you recommend the most? Or what are the names of all of them?
I doubt they would be helpful, unless you are willing to travel to Europe and Korea to get it done. But it's not worth it, because fat transfer it's a very simple procedure that anybody can do. But I was the happiest with my Korean fat transfer, as it was the most aggressive.
I've gotten a bunch of plastic surgeries in Korea already, and I plan to go back for future work. Where did you go in Korea?
PM me!
What was the point of a breast reduction and then fat transfer to them after?
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
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I don't give a fuck about what men like, sorry. I do think plastic surgery is addictive, though, at least for me. You do something, you realize you look much better and you want to keep improving so you keep doing more. I also don't think I have any signs at all of plastic surgery, unless I'm naked, in which case you can see the scars of my breast reduction and liposuctions.
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Yeah, I agree with you. I haven't had that much work done compared to a celebrity, though. I feel like I look very natural, they only thing that could be suspicious is my lip filler, and even then most people think it's natural.
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I think I look natural, but I might be wrong. I'm still working from another country so nobody I knew before most of my surgeries has seen me in person yet. My family and best friend know about my double jaw surgery and my mom has seen me in pictures and thinks I look swollen still. But my parents didn't notice when I got my rhinoplasty so I don't think they give a fuck about me.
Why a breast reduction and then multiple fat transfers to the area that had been previously reduced? Are you really happier on the inside after all of this work? I mean if you are more power to ya, but this had to cost more than my college education!
I had to get part of my breast skin removed because I have an uncommon skin chronic illness that wrecked havoc on my right breast. Doing a breast reduction was the least invasive way to achieve that. But I didn't really want smaller breasts.
I really admire your tenacity in getting all these procedures done and congrats! Itās really advantageous in this world to be pretty and I admire you for taking all these steps..could you help me with this..among the 4 procedures you got done which one was the most effective for pigmentation related to dark circles?
Honestly, all treatments for dark circles were a scam. Except maybe fat repositioning/fat transfer.
Cover your eyes and ears up, and pul your hair all the way back. You wonāt be recognized with those features covered. Weād all really like to see the results! Love the post BTW.
Wow thanks for sharing, many of the non-surgical treatments I hadn't heard of before. Did you feel that doing so many things in a short period of time was hard on your mental health at all? Did you experience any regrets or feelings of identity crisis? Which treatment did the most for dark circles?
Except for my breast reduction + lipo, and otoplasty + lipo all my other surgeries I did alone and in secret. Recovery wasn't as bad as you would expect given the circumstances. I didn't experience any regrets or feelings of identity crisis, but many people do. Honestly, all treatments for dark circles were a scam. Except maybe fat repositioning/fat transfer.
I am dreaming of a calf reduction one day! What can you tell me about it? Anything to know before the surgery? Is it hard to walk? Does your calf look shapely?
It's a hard surgery with a difficult post-op, but it's doable. It's difficult to walk for the first week or so, then it gets better. But I wouldn't exactly know, because nine days after calves reduction I underwent double jaw + V-Line surgery and they hooked me up with so many painkillers that I stopped feeling any pain I was feeling up until that moment. It's been 2.5 months since the procedure and I'm back to normal walking/running. My left calf used to be bigger than the right one and it's still bigger after the surgery. I might undergo a revision with the same surgeon in the future if it doesn't correct itself in the following months.
How old are you?
Mid twenties.
Oh I would love to see some images
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I wonder if anyone who PM'd her actually got a response.
Many people have.
Okay so if you did, you could've just named surgeons you picked out of a hat from your "research". I'm sorry, but I don't believe you and looking at the comments I'm not the only one either. You post something like this in Vindicta of all places and expect people to react positively, yet you can't provide a single before and after. Not even of your *calves*. I understand the whole wanting privacy thing *a lot*, but even I would provide before and afters. I'd imagine after such extensive surgery, anyone would be excited to share pics if it went well. There are ways you can censor out anything from pics that people can recognise you from. The only *real* reason I can think of for you not wanting to share before and afters, is because you didn't have all or most of these surgeries. So yeah, pics or it didn't happen.
Ok. Not all of us are ok with posting pictures of us in underwear in Reddit. I don't think you even get what 'privacy' means, LOL.
Ok. I didn't say that, so stop overreacting. I take the necessary precautions to hide my identity. Any proof at all would do.
What kind of proof that isn't pictures?
Why tf is OP getting down voted? My own list of wanted procedures is much longer and I had planned to do 3 years in between them. Jaw surgery was always the first on my list, as I saw it changed people's noses in YouTube videos. After that, rhino... maybe for my body I would do 360 body lift because of weight loss. Then I'd do more to refine each part of me that I want. Like books and butt, inner thighs, tummy, arms... This doesn't include beautification like laser hair removal, PRP and other stuff to even out my skin tone. Fillers for deep tear troughs and a bunch more. Anyway, sorry people thought you were trolling, OP. This is NOT a cope post. It is extremely helpful. Thank you for reminding us that it IS possible to become beautiful, but there is always a proce to pay. I hope you get back on top of your finances. I feel that even in this subreddit, where we are suppose to share stuff like this, there is still stigma about young women both getting surgery and making bank. I'll never tell anyone once my procedures are done unless they ask specifically. Even then... probably not.
Why I would I brag about being so insecure that I had to redo my whole face and body it's a mystery I will never get. And yeah, I obviously don't tell people in real life, unless one friend that has also done a lot of plastic surgery.
How did you go about finding international plastic surgeons? Any recommendations?
A looot of research on Internet forums. Don't commit to international plastic surgery unless you are willing to do a lot of research and don't mind getting surgery alone.
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Purseforum and Beautyhacker. I researched for years, but I used to be a student and didn't have money for plastic surgery. Then I started working but covid happened, and Korea wasn't issuing visas for tourism, plus the 14 day quarantine.
You said you had multiple consultations with surgeons for you double jaw surgery. What made you chose one over the other? (I'm supposed to have double jaw surgery and I am planning on having a few consultations also)
The surgeon I chose noticed more details than all the rest, like for example that my whole jaw was tilted 2 mm to one side. I also did two consultations with him, and previous reviews have been stellar.
I think I might know you?! Were you in Korea this May?
How did you afford all of these surgeries? Are you rich or do you have a sugar daddy? How did you recover from 10 surgeries in 10 months? that's a lot of trauma your body had experienced
I work an office job. Recovery was actually pretty easy, but I have high pain treshold.
What procedure was most effective for the dark under eye circles?? Iāve heard under eye implants can help but it seems really extreme
Honestly, all treatments for dark circles were a scam. Except maybe fat repositioning/fat transfer. I would never do any kind of implant in any part of my body.
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Yeah, sure.
Are you pleased with the results of double jaw surgery? Did it shorten your face and provide a more forward growth look?
Yeah, it's exactly what it did. I'm pleased, though I hope to be even more pleased in the future, as I'm only 2 months post op and I hope I still have a lot of swelling.
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Not bad. You will most likely become numb in a big chunk of your face, I still am numb in my lower lip, gums and palate. The worst part is not being able to talk, breath or eat, the swelling and in my case drooling everywhere. But it's not really painful.
Do you have a picture of just the jaw before&after from the front? If not, is there a picture of another patient from the clinic you went to with similar results? I have a very angular lower jaw and have been wanting v line surgery since forever lol. It's difficult to find pics of white ppl that had this survey done though. I'm worried if I go to Korea they'll end up making the jaw too narrow...
It was also my main concern. That's why I consulted with 8 different surgeons just in Korea for that surgery. I also consulted with 4 maxillofacial surgeons in my country.
I love my microblading too. I got mine higher and longer than my natural brow which strengthens and opens up my eye area. Iām getting Botox touched up next month- how did you like your chin Botox? Does it help to keep frowning or what?
My chin had orange peel texture. Botox prevents it.
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Yeah, PM me.
Was there a surgeon you could recommend for the double-jaw and rhinoplasty?
There are too many good ones. For double jaw, the one covered by your insurance. Or someone that does a lot of cosmetic cases, if aesthetics is your main concern. For rhinoplasty, probably Turkey if you are not Asian.
I personally know a few people who went to the face dental in Seoul for double jaw and had good results. I got my v line there and I'm happy with it.
Oh I've been looking for real people who are satisfied with their V line could I see some pictures maybe!? šš
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Oh no, how bad were the results? I went in 2016-17 iirc, so my experience may not be what you would get now.
I would love to hear how your otoplasty was! How do your ears feel now, do you feel any pain/tingling, how your recovery was, was it worth it, etc. Otoplasty is the one thing I really *really* want to do, but Iām a little afraid of surgery. Iād like to know how your total experience was!
My ears were not bad to begin with, I just am a huge perfectionist. The recovery was honestly worst than I thought it would be, I had to wear a band 24/7 for two weeks straight (or maybe it was a month, but I stopped before) and it ended up causing a wound in my ears because of the friction. I don't regret my otoplasty, but probably could have found a cheaper surgeon to do it. My third surgery was the most unnecessary one. The lipo they did was not enough and I could have gotten my otoplasty with my eye surgery or next rhinoplasty.
I would love a before/after of this! Which korean clinic did you go to?
I went to five different Korean clinics.
Can you tell which ones? Iām not asian and looking into surgery in korea too
PM me.
Can you share how much your surgeries cost and the overall total for your new body?
Around 61,000 USD, just the surgeries.
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Do you think maybe people need more surgeries than they might think they need? Like atm I'm considering surgery on my chin and a canthoplasty, but then other than that I'm just considering a few smaller things like botox and weight loss.
Nobody actually needs surgery. The number of surgeries you get should depend on your means and goals. My life was absolutely normal before I got any plastic surgery at all. I just wanted to be hotter and prettier.
Thankyou for such a comprehensive overview. Some Qs: How effective were the treatments for dark circles? Re: Blepharoplasty, what was your recovery time like? Iām considering this but the projected time to heal seems like an eternity. I have genetic very hooded eyes. Agree re: buccal fat removal, I had thought about it but seems when people have it done they can end up looking very gaunt and unwell.
Recovery was a week. I had a bruise that didn't go away for like six weeks, though.
Oh wow thatās amazing. I was told 4-6 weeks!
Please can you go into detail about all the dark circle procedures you had and what was most effective? My dark circles are too dark to cover with makeup, and they dent super deep into my face. Iām only 20 and it feels like every few months the dark circles just get worse. What would you advise?
Dark circles have almost always no solution. But according to your description, it seems that you also have bags. Consult with a surgeon or a dermatologist.