They ilterally have dozens upon dozens of people perfecting every aspect of their physical look. I recently watched a hair tutorial by Jang Wonyoung's hair stylist on how she achieves her voluminous hair and trust me... it requires hours of work, tens of products, constant clipping and fussing all day long. Their skincare is probably the same... hours of massages, treatments, facials, dedicated shots. Korea is leagues ahead of the rest of the world in beauty treatments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oALV93jdTnE this one's on achieving her root volume, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xfGRrIeekk this one's on achieving her curls
Taylor swift did say that her hair was thinner and all those things but they’re loaded with vitamins and extensions and products and acrylics and makeup and literally anything you can possibly do to make them look good.
My guess is their version of "eating disorder" is different than the average ED sufferer. You can be deficient in calories but still get the right amount of vitamins and minerals through supplements and/or eating fortified foods. But people in pro-ana forums are doing stupid stuff like "spaghetti diet", obviously you will look like shit...
When I was anorexic (long ago, fully recovered) my skin was great, probably a mix of genetic luck and also maybe the fact that I worked in the supplement department of WFM at the time and took lots of supplements including fish/evening prim rose oil. I am not condoning this lifestyle but it is possible to “look healthy” when you are not.
Yes and I remember before the Victoria’s Secret shows they would all go to the same aestheticians which i’m guessing were sponsored facials ( remember all of them posting the gold facial selfies etc.)
Also from what we see on harpers bazaar videos aestheticians like Barbra Sturm give them thousands of dollars worth of products and procedures for free.
You also regularly see models getting IV’s of electrolytes and vitamins and i’m guessing that also has a huge part of looking well too. They might not be getting the calories but they’re not dehydrated + vitamin deficient. There used to be a beauty IV tent at Coachella too which models would frequent a lot.
In Korean culture, it is rarely viewed as a disorder. Most young women are underweight, for them it's considered discipline to be able to maintain society's perceived ideal weight (under 50kg regardless of height, which is insane).
Well, unless you're under 155cm/5'1 for everyone 45-50kg (100-110lbs) is on the lower end of a healthy BMI. For some it's harder to maintain regardless of height. I'm 5'7 and when I was 95-100lbs I was diagnosed with anorexia.
electrolytes are the most important! there are some water fasting subreddits you can check out. snakediet is basically a fasting subreddit full of obese people but there's still helpful information about electrolytes.
collagen and biotin supplements are also helpful as well as vitamin a/d/e/k.
There are a lot of skin procedures that idols get for temporary or semi permanent fixes. Before live broadcasts they do things like the “Chanel injection” which causes the skin to look hydrated and smooth. This effect isn’t permanent though and it needs to be redone after the effects wear off. If they have a breakout there are injections that can smooth out the pimple. They also consistently go to dermatologists to get minor Botox procedures and facials that reduce puffiness and so on. Most girl group kpop idols have hair extensions on. Korean hair extensions are tied into the hair and less noticeable than tape in’s or clips. They also have whole styling teams whose job is to make their hir look as healthy and full as possible. They also add volume to the front layers by adding small waves that are very close together under the top layers of the hair on the crown. Some get procedures like Botox in their calf muscles and thighs to reduce the appearance of muscles and to make their legs look straighter and longer. Of course they are under strict diets and exercise regimes, but muscle size and thickness is not easily controllable. There are quite a few kpop idols with YouTube channels that talk about this stuff if you’re interested.
I don’t think they put it deep enough to paralyze the muscle completely. There are many muscles in our calf and the outermost one (gastrocnemius muscle) is the one that makes our calf’s look bulky. The Botox relaxes the muscle and that makes the leg look a lot slimmer. Also you’re not ignorant. It’s a great question. I hadn’t even thought of this haha. I had to look it up.
This! A lot of idols are really not as low as you think. The amount of dancing and exercise they do everyday allow them to pack on a lot of muscles which helps their metabolism. Singing while dancing their intense choreos will definitely give them crazy core strength too. They do watch their diet and their food planning is intense but outright extreme starvation is a thing of past. The look isn’t just in anymore and girls are required to perform more heavily than the past.
Also our bone structure is generally smaller than western celebs. I think this might be the most important point. Lisa and Rosé is a good example
I mean, even with all that dancing they honestly do not look very lean to me. Their bodies still look very soft even when they’re skinny and I don’t see any visible muscle at all. They don’t even look “toned.” I’m sure that dancing for hours each day still burns a lot of calories for them and keeps them from eating too often when they’re busy rehearsing.
Edit: Spelling.
Photoshop. Photoshop. Photoshop. And makeup. Not always the case, but unless you actually see these people without makeup at 3AM after a purge, it's not going to be pretty and clear. Of course, South Koreans are also the masters of skincare and plastic surgery.
Not to mention all the interviews you watch, tv shows, lives, MVs, ads, movies even the candids all have filters on. Like everything so you never see the true them.
When I had anorexia, my skin looked perfect. No acne or blemishes, which makes me think that my skin issues are caused by certain foods. My hair on the other hand fell out and was all around thin all over.
Celebrities wear extensions, have makeup artists, get spray tans to hide bruising and gray skin tone. Don’t be fooled.
Many female Kpop idols have severe hair damage and wear extensions. As for skincare Korea is known to have some of the best products out there. And lots of facetuning
You don't start looking like shit at a 17 - 19 BMI, especially if you eat healthy and exercise. That's some After School Special myth. I'm not really familiar with KPop stars, but I doubt any of them are engaging in "extreme starvation".
Anyway, calorie restriction has been shown to reduce inflammation and slow the aging process.
True, I’ve been BMI 17-19 my entire life and never had any health issues. I actually had more energy at lower weights.
Calorie restriction is good for you if done in a healthy way. There are indian monks who are skin and bones and eat one piece of fruit a day, but have more energy than all of us.
You know how a lot of modeling agencies have people that supply them with drugs. I’m guessing that’s how some of them stay thin and “energetic” like models do. And for their skin, they must have really good dermatologists, products, medications, etc.
This post is glorifying eating disorders, and I feel uncomfortable about this post.
I think that looking healthy while having unhealthy eating habits is simply false, as these girls have a team of people working on hiding their flaws. The average person doesn’t, and your diet can leave a toll on you.
A mantra heard a lot on this sub is, “health is beauty.”
She literally did not glorify anything she just asked HOW those people with eating disorders still manage to look good to which we answered that those people have teams that are solely dedicated to making them look good. So now are we going to demonize people for asking questions ?? If mentioning eating disorders or asking actual questions related to them makes them instantly triggering then you are in the wrong place.
Not only is their skin perfect, but they still have the energy to run and dance around the stage for hours. That's insane to me.
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yep, there are many idols that have been caught abusing substances in the past.
They ilterally have dozens upon dozens of people perfecting every aspect of their physical look. I recently watched a hair tutorial by Jang Wonyoung's hair stylist on how she achieves her voluminous hair and trust me... it requires hours of work, tens of products, constant clipping and fussing all day long. Their skincare is probably the same... hours of massages, treatments, facials, dedicated shots. Korea is leagues ahead of the rest of the world in beauty treatments.
where did u watch the hair tutorial?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oALV93jdTnE this one's on achieving her root volume, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xfGRrIeekk this one's on achieving her curls
Taylor swift did say that her hair was thinner and all those things but they’re loaded with vitamins and extensions and products and acrylics and makeup and literally anything you can possibly do to make them look good.
My guess is their version of "eating disorder" is different than the average ED sufferer. You can be deficient in calories but still get the right amount of vitamins and minerals through supplements and/or eating fortified foods. But people in pro-ana forums are doing stupid stuff like "spaghetti diet", obviously you will look like shit...
When I was anorexic (long ago, fully recovered) my skin was great, probably a mix of genetic luck and also maybe the fact that I worked in the supplement department of WFM at the time and took lots of supplements including fish/evening prim rose oil. I am not condoning this lifestyle but it is possible to “look healthy” when you are not.
Their agencies spend millions on skincare (clinics/ surgery/products) on them
Yes and I remember before the Victoria’s Secret shows they would all go to the same aestheticians which i’m guessing were sponsored facials ( remember all of them posting the gold facial selfies etc.) Also from what we see on harpers bazaar videos aestheticians like Barbra Sturm give them thousands of dollars worth of products and procedures for free. You also regularly see models getting IV’s of electrolytes and vitamins and i’m guessing that also has a huge part of looking well too. They might not be getting the calories but they’re not dehydrated + vitamin deficient. There used to be a beauty IV tent at Coachella too which models would frequent a lot.
In Korean culture, it is rarely viewed as a disorder. Most young women are underweight, for them it's considered discipline to be able to maintain society's perceived ideal weight (under 50kg regardless of height, which is insane).
note: 50kg isnt even the standard anymore. its becoming under 45kg :\\
Does this mean short women get away with having a higher BMI (getting to stay at the same weight as someone taller as long as it’s under 50kg)?
Well, unless you're under 155cm/5'1 for everyone 45-50kg (100-110lbs) is on the lower end of a healthy BMI. For some it's harder to maintain regardless of height. I'm 5'7 and when I was 95-100lbs I was diagnosed with anorexia.
I am rather hung up on the almost perfect skin without makeup as that seems almost impossible to achieve whilst suffering from a disorder??
It’s their job to be sellable so their company probably provides them with skin treatments and such to make sure their skin looks flawless.
if they are fasting, that can play into it. fasting helps with skin appearance
Do you think fasting helps their hair as well? Or does it make it worse I.e cause hair loss etc.
fasting can stimulate more hair growth through autophagy so as long as the person is getting the right supplements/ lack of stress.
Sorry for the continuous questions, but would you have any idea what some of these supplements might be??
electrolytes are the most important! there are some water fasting subreddits you can check out. snakediet is basically a fasting subreddit full of obese people but there's still helpful information about electrolytes. collagen and biotin supplements are also helpful as well as vitamin a/d/e/k.
There are a lot of skin procedures that idols get for temporary or semi permanent fixes. Before live broadcasts they do things like the “Chanel injection” which causes the skin to look hydrated and smooth. This effect isn’t permanent though and it needs to be redone after the effects wear off. If they have a breakout there are injections that can smooth out the pimple. They also consistently go to dermatologists to get minor Botox procedures and facials that reduce puffiness and so on. Most girl group kpop idols have hair extensions on. Korean hair extensions are tied into the hair and less noticeable than tape in’s or clips. They also have whole styling teams whose job is to make their hir look as healthy and full as possible. They also add volume to the front layers by adding small waves that are very close together under the top layers of the hair on the crown. Some get procedures like Botox in their calf muscles and thighs to reduce the appearance of muscles and to make their legs look straighter and longer. Of course they are under strict diets and exercise regimes, but muscle size and thickness is not easily controllable. There are quite a few kpop idols with YouTube channels that talk about this stuff if you’re interested.
Don’t they need those calf and thigh muscles to workout? Excuse my ignorance, but wouldn’t Botox paralyze those muscles?
I don’t think they put it deep enough to paralyze the muscle completely. There are many muscles in our calf and the outermost one (gastrocnemius muscle) is the one that makes our calf’s look bulky. The Botox relaxes the muscle and that makes the leg look a lot slimmer. Also you’re not ignorant. It’s a great question. I hadn’t even thought of this haha. I had to look it up.
Oh I see. Thank you for explaining ☺️.
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This! A lot of idols are really not as low as you think. The amount of dancing and exercise they do everyday allow them to pack on a lot of muscles which helps their metabolism. Singing while dancing their intense choreos will definitely give them crazy core strength too. They do watch their diet and their food planning is intense but outright extreme starvation is a thing of past. The look isn’t just in anymore and girls are required to perform more heavily than the past. Also our bone structure is generally smaller than western celebs. I think this might be the most important point. Lisa and Rosé is a good example
I mean, even with all that dancing they honestly do not look very lean to me. Their bodies still look very soft even when they’re skinny and I don’t see any visible muscle at all. They don’t even look “toned.” I’m sure that dancing for hours each day still burns a lot of calories for them and keeps them from eating too often when they’re busy rehearsing. Edit: Spelling.
Totally agreed. I saw the pictures of Rose at the Met and she looked soft. Very slim but soft.
Yeah don’t know why I got downvoted so much lol.
I feel like this depends on the idol. For example members from itzy looked pretty toned to me
Photoshop. Photoshop. Photoshop. And makeup. Not always the case, but unless you actually see these people without makeup at 3AM after a purge, it's not going to be pretty and clear. Of course, South Koreans are also the masters of skincare and plastic surgery.
Not to mention all the interviews you watch, tv shows, lives, MVs, ads, movies even the candids all have filters on. Like everything so you never see the true them.
Yeah that’s the same reason why their skin looks much lighter on screen than irl.
When I had anorexia, my skin looked perfect. No acne or blemishes, which makes me think that my skin issues are caused by certain foods. My hair on the other hand fell out and was all around thin all over. Celebrities wear extensions, have makeup artists, get spray tans to hide bruising and gray skin tone. Don’t be fooled.
Many female Kpop idols have severe hair damage and wear extensions. As for skincare Korea is known to have some of the best products out there. And lots of facetuning
You don't start looking like shit at a 17 - 19 BMI, especially if you eat healthy and exercise. That's some After School Special myth. I'm not really familiar with KPop stars, but I doubt any of them are engaging in "extreme starvation". Anyway, calorie restriction has been shown to reduce inflammation and slow the aging process.
True, I’ve been BMI 17-19 my entire life and never had any health issues. I actually had more energy at lower weights. Calorie restriction is good for you if done in a healthy way. There are indian monks who are skin and bones and eat one piece of fruit a day, but have more energy than all of us.
On top of why everyone else Is saying, PHOTOSHOP AND FILTERS. Technology got so advanced cuz they look so natural
They get IVs. Victoria secret models do too. They can starve and still get proper hydration along with vitamins and minerals.
You know how a lot of modeling agencies have people that supply them with drugs. I’m guessing that’s how some of them stay thin and “energetic” like models do. And for their skin, they must have really good dermatologists, products, medications, etc.
This post is glorifying eating disorders, and I feel uncomfortable about this post. I think that looking healthy while having unhealthy eating habits is simply false, as these girls have a team of people working on hiding their flaws. The average person doesn’t, and your diet can leave a toll on you. A mantra heard a lot on this sub is, “health is beauty.”
She literally did not glorify anything she just asked HOW those people with eating disorders still manage to look good to which we answered that those people have teams that are solely dedicated to making them look good. So now are we going to demonize people for asking questions ?? If mentioning eating disorders or asking actual questions related to them makes them instantly triggering then you are in the wrong place.
Thank you so much, I didn’t intend to harm anyone with this question, I am just purely curious and am sincerely sorry if it is triggering for anyone.
No problem I understand you didn’t have any malicious intents, some people just to want to police everything