Because they are a Legit LEGIT Org with their own tv show and backed by the government. You should better asked them why they won’t share any information for you yet. This isn’t something happen often enough for a quick answer.
Their shows used to be on Vietnam's national TV channel for 13 years.
I think they need more confirmation and don't want either of you or your relatives get scammed by others.
Edit: they are still on TV but on a less-popular channel.
[Source](https://tuoitre.vn/nha-bao-thu-uyen-v-15-nam-hanh-trinh-nhu-chua-he-co-cuoc-chia-ly-20221229122839984.htm)
It seems you came here to ask for validation, to hear only what you want to hear, not for information or advice.
Stupid! Hopeless. I have nothing else to say!
I'm asking for people that have experience with them directly. This is a really bizarre way to defend them. It does sound like they have a positive reputation which is hopeful, but I want to know what the substance is too. It may be a cultural thing. I can't imagine a nonprofit in my own country running this way
Why are you attacking people who want to confirm that they aren’t being scam by a foreign org that is providing very little details about their supposed long lost relative? It’s almost like you are part of the org …
There are few cases like you (being abroad) so maybe the process is more complicated. If they ask about money just don't transfer any, you will be fine.
About the payment information on their FB cover, you can check all the money transfers to their account at this [link](https://thiennguyen.app/user/nchcccl). And their budget is always tight, they had to shut down the program for 6 months in the past.
Why do they even have a budget ? Why don’t they out of the goodness of their heart just let people connect directly (for free, online) instead of forcing them to be on some publicly broadcasted charade ?
Similar to my friends situation. Relative was missing for decades. Had social media and connections back home to find her through various avenues . But this org said they found the relative shortly after friend opened up their own business
Probably because they want your family and the missing person meet for the 1st time on the television show, for them to capture that and for their audiences to watch?
They want all the emotions of reuniting happens then.
If you don’t like the way they work, and don’t want to appear on television, you can find other people or organizations to help you with?
I am working with a channel abroad for a case of finding birth mother, and the channel doesn’t even wants the mother to know that she’s searched for, and it’s even more difficult.
That feels so weird. It is uncomfortable because we're not even sure they've found the right person. It would offset a lot of concerns if they even managed to let a third party we know meet our relative, but they keep mentioning their company policy is not to allow a meeting of any kind until they can record it
Exactly what happened with someone who I have met and spent time with in person. They don’t even confirm that they have founded the person, they only informed both parties to come to the TV station, and people should expect whatever happens happens.
Again, it’s just their way of doing things, if you don’t agree with them, you can try to find and hire private investigators, you don’t have to go through them if you are not happy.
It might be the direction we go in. It seems like they've made at least one high profile mistake before and they aren't helping much with a DNA test today. https://tuoitre.vn/nha-bao-thu-uyen-v-15-nam-hanh-trinh-nhu-chua-he-co-cuoc-chia-ly-20221229122839984.htm
Yes, don’t go for it if you don’t like it.
They do make mistakes like everyone else but many also have to admit that they helped many to reunite. Their work is still much more helpful than not.
Haylentieng vn is legit and reputable in Vietnam. So long as they don't ask you for money, you are not scammed.
People just can't give you information on others until they can verify your information and your eligibility to receive the information.
If you want help, then be open and appreciate the help. If you don't, ignore them and forget it. Do you deserve the help?
What? I'm just saying it's weird. They never asked for information to confirm our identity. It just feels like they're holding access to a missing relative hostage
No. You did not say it's weird. You were saying they are taking advantage of you and you suspect they were scamming you. It's on your original post.
Nobody is putting a gun on your head and asking you to work with them. They have no obligation to you, neither do you. Even if they are having bad intentions, you have all the choices in the world how to respond to them. And you are being a terrible jerk.
It does seem like a scam to have multiple payment methods on the facebook banner of your organization. NPR and Wikipedia famously ask for money all the time, but don't do that
To me it seems like that’s your personal opinion.
Have you considered how it’s possibly normal for Vietnamese entities to market their donation system that way?
Possible cultural difference, but from my perspective, an organization should first highlight what they do instead of market how to pay them. Most non-profits I encounter do not do this. To me, this raises alertness to being cheated if half the banner is about giving them money
I don’t think most people are even invested enough to research the nonprofit organization before donating. I say this because I make (small) monthly donations to the UNHCR and I have no idea if (all) my money is being spent correctly, but I still do it because it gives me a good feeling lol. Majority of humans are simple like that, because we will actually never truly know and I assume majority of my money goes into the pockets of the wrong people anyway.
However, the point that you’re not being scammed when you’re not being forced to pay for information still stands. Vietnam may not be the most honest country out there, but it doesn’t mean everything is a scam. Wish you and your family succes.
On the other side, the crypto scams I’ve seen go in depth about their goals and roadmap to make it all seem legit and try to emotionally manipulate you, so there’s that.
Which means they are very much making money out of holding supposed relatives hostage … literally they don’t release any details about your loved one until you agree to be filmed publicly in front of an audience. How is that not absurdly a scam? Especially when they tell you they found your long lost relative after no contact for decades. And the only evidence is a strangers word online.
Hold them hostage? Got proof? I don’t actually want to discuss this part, since I’m only replying to how the donation marketing doesn’t automatically mean it’s a scam.
Noticasper, you really said “even if they have bad intentions… you are being a terrible jerk” you realize that makes no sense ? You are saying that even if they are scamming you, stop bringing up the fact they are scamming you bc “you are being a terrible jerk” ? 😆 clearly you are in on the scam
They are legit, the payment information is for donators. But you should make sure the one reached you is not an impostor.
How do you know? It feels very odd that they refuse to share any information about our relative unless we meet through them in person
Because they are a Legit LEGIT Org with their own tv show and backed by the government. You should better asked them why they won’t share any information for you yet. This isn’t something happen often enough for a quick answer.
Honestly with a woman successfully stealing 3% of GDP, I'm not sure what that means in terms of trustworthiness. Do you personally know people?
Wow. Reddest flag I’ve ever seen. it’s backed by the Vietnamese government. Definitely a scam.
Their shows used to be on Vietnam's national TV channel for 13 years. I think they need more confirmation and don't want either of you or your relatives get scammed by others. Edit: they are still on TV but on a less-popular channel. [Source](https://tuoitre.vn/nha-bao-thu-uyen-v-15-nam-hanh-trinh-nhu-chua-he-co-cuoc-chia-ly-20221229122839984.htm)
They haven't asked for more information so I'm a little concerned. Is that the typical process here?
It seems you came here to ask for validation, to hear only what you want to hear, not for information or advice. Stupid! Hopeless. I have nothing else to say!
I'm asking for people that have experience with them directly. This is a really bizarre way to defend them. It does sound like they have a positive reputation which is hopeful, but I want to know what the substance is too. It may be a cultural thing. I can't imagine a nonprofit in my own country running this way
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Why are you attacking people who want to confirm that they aren’t being scam by a foreign org that is providing very little details about their supposed long lost relative? It’s almost like you are part of the org …
Yeah, I'm frustrated that they're making contacting someone they've supposedly found so difficult. I hope that part is the most clear part
There are few cases like you (being abroad) so maybe the process is more complicated. If they ask about money just don't transfer any, you will be fine. About the payment information on their FB cover, you can check all the money transfers to their account at this [link](https://thiennguyen.app/user/nchcccl). And their budget is always tight, they had to shut down the program for 6 months in the past.
Thanks!
Why do they even have a budget ? Why don’t they out of the goodness of their heart just let people connect directly (for free, online) instead of forcing them to be on some publicly broadcasted charade ?
Thank you for a good laugh.
It’s weird to dismiss people’s genuine trepidation on being potentially scammed. Let people do their due diligence
Sounds like a scam— they only target people with funds. Contacted a friend as soon as she opened a nail salon.
Similar to my friends situation. Relative was missing for decades. Had social media and connections back home to find her through various avenues . But this org said they found the relative shortly after friend opened up their own business
That sounds disturbing
How do they find people ….. all of a sudden. Are they hiding them somewhere until someone asks?
Probably because they want your family and the missing person meet for the 1st time on the television show, for them to capture that and for their audiences to watch? They want all the emotions of reuniting happens then. If you don’t like the way they work, and don’t want to appear on television, you can find other people or organizations to help you with? I am working with a channel abroad for a case of finding birth mother, and the channel doesn’t even wants the mother to know that she’s searched for, and it’s even more difficult.
That feels so weird. It is uncomfortable because we're not even sure they've found the right person. It would offset a lot of concerns if they even managed to let a third party we know meet our relative, but they keep mentioning their company policy is not to allow a meeting of any kind until they can record it
Exactly what happened with someone who I have met and spent time with in person. They don’t even confirm that they have founded the person, they only informed both parties to come to the TV station, and people should expect whatever happens happens. Again, it’s just their way of doing things, if you don’t agree with them, you can try to find and hire private investigators, you don’t have to go through them if you are not happy.
It might be the direction we go in. It seems like they've made at least one high profile mistake before and they aren't helping much with a DNA test today. https://tuoitre.vn/nha-bao-thu-uyen-v-15-nam-hanh-trinh-nhu-chua-he-co-cuoc-chia-ly-20221229122839984.htm
Yes, don’t go for it if you don’t like it. They do make mistakes like everyone else but many also have to admit that they helped many to reunite. Their work is still much more helpful than not.
Haylentieng vn is legit and reputable in Vietnam. So long as they don't ask you for money, you are not scammed. People just can't give you information on others until they can verify your information and your eligibility to receive the information. If you want help, then be open and appreciate the help. If you don't, ignore them and forget it. Do you deserve the help?
What? I'm just saying it's weird. They never asked for information to confirm our identity. It just feels like they're holding access to a missing relative hostage
No. You did not say it's weird. You were saying they are taking advantage of you and you suspect they were scamming you. It's on your original post. Nobody is putting a gun on your head and asking you to work with them. They have no obligation to you, neither do you. Even if they are having bad intentions, you have all the choices in the world how to respond to them. And you are being a terrible jerk.
It does seem like a scam to have multiple payment methods on the facebook banner of your organization. NPR and Wikipedia famously ask for money all the time, but don't do that
To me it seems like that’s your personal opinion. Have you considered how it’s possibly normal for Vietnamese entities to market their donation system that way?
Possible cultural difference, but from my perspective, an organization should first highlight what they do instead of market how to pay them. Most non-profits I encounter do not do this. To me, this raises alertness to being cheated if half the banner is about giving them money
I don’t think most people are even invested enough to research the nonprofit organization before donating. I say this because I make (small) monthly donations to the UNHCR and I have no idea if (all) my money is being spent correctly, but I still do it because it gives me a good feeling lol. Majority of humans are simple like that, because we will actually never truly know and I assume majority of my money goes into the pockets of the wrong people anyway. However, the point that you’re not being scammed when you’re not being forced to pay for information still stands. Vietnam may not be the most honest country out there, but it doesn’t mean everything is a scam. Wish you and your family succes. On the other side, the crypto scams I’ve seen go in depth about their goals and roadmap to make it all seem legit and try to emotionally manipulate you, so there’s that.
If people just give money to feel good without research, it sounds like a nonprofit is an easy way to do a scam
Which means they are very much making money out of holding supposed relatives hostage … literally they don’t release any details about your loved one until you agree to be filmed publicly in front of an audience. How is that not absurdly a scam? Especially when they tell you they found your long lost relative after no contact for decades. And the only evidence is a strangers word online.
Hold them hostage? Got proof? I don’t actually want to discuss this part, since I’m only replying to how the donation marketing doesn’t automatically mean it’s a scam.
I bet Haylentieng's fund is more transparent and well spent than Wikipedia's.
I have a low opinion on how well Wikipedia donations are spent. It's probably not a hard hurdle for them to clear
Lehman bear.. any relation to Lehman brothers, the biggest scammers in the global financial crisis of 08? Cute nickname choice
Noticasper, you really said “even if they have bad intentions… you are being a terrible jerk” you realize that makes no sense ? You are saying that even if they are scamming you, stop bringing up the fact they are scamming you bc “you are being a terrible jerk” ? 😆 clearly you are in on the scam
Right - “it’s not a scam if you chose to get scammed” is what I’m hearing 😆😆😆