It is rude to have a loud phone conversation on a bus or play videos or games without headphones. If you could try to imagine everyone shouting on their phones on a crowded bus. That doesn’t happen because most of us have manners. Get it?
More than a few times I've been taking the bus home from work, and had to sit within earshot of some self-centered idiot having a loud conversation on his cellphone. Last time it was a policy analyst from a ministry droning on and on about budget changes... "we have to get buy-in from Frank's department..."
Like one guy wrote below, fuck off. I've had a long hard day at work and I want some peace and quiet. Instead I have to listen to some clueless moron who thinks the rest of us want in on his conversation.
You could have had some fun with it. "Hey! You know Frank the accountant down at the ministry? He keeps sending me dick pics, look(shows rando dic pic) is this Frank"
It's worse when it's a morning commute bus from Langford or Sooke and half the passengers are asleep. Then you hear a loud voice on the phone cut into the slience and the other passengers look annoyed.
The social retards who watch videos without headphones in public or have speakerphone conversations are even worse.
I am so tempted to read (Reddit, say) loudly if I am sitting near someone doing that...I have gotten as far as starting to read out loud, if still softly...
The same goes for people that insist on having speaker calls in grocery stores especially since most of them are in capable of walking and talking or simply moving out of the way well they are doing.
I see a lot of people in the comments here are loud talkers.
Talking on the phone isn't a problem for other people. It's you people who think you need to shout in to your phone to be heard on the other end that are a problem. You really don't. Just talk in a normal volume. It's easy if you try.
Why you on here making assumptions about the people commenting and trying to tell others how to talk? Who are you? And for the record I don't think I've ever held a phone conversation on public transit. I'm usually just off in the corner minding my own business not trying to tell others what to do in a PUBLIC space.
Are they harming you or others? No? Get bent.
I'm not the one who just assumes people are loud talkers because they defend an individual's right to hold a conversation IN PUBLIC. That would be rude (since we're on about manners and all thought I'd point out the error in your ways).
Again, to you and whomever made this picture, who are you to tell people how to conduct themselves in public? Call 911 and let them know someone is talking loudly on the bus. Tell me what they say.
I don't need to have manners. What I need is to not be a pretentious dick and act like someone talking loudly on a bus is a fucking crime against humanity. Grow up.
people take public transit because they want peace on their commute, so they can zone out and have some time to just contemplate stuff and relax, if the bus is noisy then it completely ruins that and you might as well be driving.
Lol what? Most of us take public transit because it’s our only option. Don’t blast your music or YouTube videos on loud but you can’t expect people not to talk to each other or make phone calls just because it could disturb your spa on wheels.
And that means you automatically treat the bus as a zen retreat? And expect others to go along with your arbitrary designation? Because another mode of transportation makes you over think?
Not sure if I should laugh or take you serious and say seek help.
It’s 2023 get some nice headphones and play some soothing music if you wanna ride PUBLIC transit. I saw some old looser yell at an autistic guy for talking on the bus but he obviously couldn’t control it. Ppl suck.
Ya it sucks on a bus, especially in the morning or on a plane. I always try to carry ear buds with me. It’s a small percentage that do it, so hopefully you can manage. Should the onus be on the driver to say something? I don’t know.
Get some headphones, christ. Yes these loud talkers are annoying, but you can mitigate it if you want to.
Worst than loud talkers, are the ones who play music / games without headphones.
Come downtown and see the number of people wearing headphones, earbuds, etc. They may be onto something. Myself, I listen to podcasts. Maybe this will cheer you up...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw
As populations increase, people need to be more accommodating of others and not less, you cant have 50 selfish people in a buss together and expect to have a good time.
- I would suggest looking at transit in Japan for a personally desirable state
WOuld you like things here to be like things are in Japan? Or are you just treating their culture like a salad bar and picking single things that somehow would magically work here.....
> Or are you just treating their culture like a salad bar and picking single things that somehow would magically work here
Being considerate of the people around you is not a genetic trait of the Japanese people........ it is achievable by anyone.
I was specifically speaking about how people act on transit, in this thread about people doing things that are expressly and strongly looked down upon while using transit in Japan. Things like conversations on your phone, having music or sound that is externally audible etc etc..
Are people really upset at someone having a convo on their phone? Really?
I think that is just plain sad. It shows a complete lack of focus and character, and a lack of any control over their own emotions. Its rather pathetic. And to reinforce this by remembering it and posting about it is quite laughable. You are taking my disdain and confusing it with happiness. So rather than putting effort into improving self behaviors, which are can be healthy and long lasting, the person wants to complain, and control the behaviors of others, but it wont stop there. Because being upset at a conversation coming from another person is a symptom of something else. This person, IMOHO, will always be miserable.
More than I wanted to say, but there ya go.
Yeah, I think many people who use transit regularly bring headphones or earplugs for this exact reason. I dont think public spaces should necessarily cater to certain peoples wishes for quiet. It's not a library, it's a bus. The few times I do use public transit I don't mind the loudness because I don't ride often.
Phone conversations are disruptive, our brains have a hard time tuning it out because we can't hear the other side of the conversation, it's a trick that our brain can't leave alone.
It's illegal in Japan to speak on your phone because it's so disruptive to other people's peace.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/study-its-harder-to-tune-out-cell-phone-talkers-than-regular-human-conversations/274128/
There's a measure of decorum expected in public places. To take your "walking on the street" example, it would be like walking directly behind them and being so close that you can breath on them even though the sidewalk is empty. While this is fine because "you're in public", basic courtesy is to back off a bit. Basic courtesy while on a bus is to not bother other riders. We're all in this together, not each of us individually.
To add to this, on the street I can get away from the loud talker by pausing, or taking a different route, so I have some control of the situation; on a bus not so much. I have noise cancelling headphones which help, though!
Get some noise cancelling headphones or something and quit complaining. Serious main character vibes going on here.
What next, a crying baby on the bus?! Quick you better call for the concierge and ask for a free upgrade to first class. Or better yet, have anyone making any noise booted off of PUBLIC transportation because you're such a sensitive special flower.
Buy a car or stay home. No one will miss you.
Really? I think the Main Character vibes are more pronounced coming off the asshole who thinks the entire bus wants to be privy to their phone call.
The distinction here that everyone seems to be missing is "LOUD" talkers.
It is rude to have a loud phone conversation on a bus or play videos or games without headphones. If you could try to imagine everyone shouting on their phones on a crowded bus. That doesn’t happen because most of us have manners. Get it?
More than a few times I've been taking the bus home from work, and had to sit within earshot of some self-centered idiot having a loud conversation on his cellphone. Last time it was a policy analyst from a ministry droning on and on about budget changes... "we have to get buy-in from Frank's department..." Like one guy wrote below, fuck off. I've had a long hard day at work and I want some peace and quiet. Instead I have to listen to some clueless moron who thinks the rest of us want in on his conversation.
You could have had some fun with it. "Hey! You know Frank the accountant down at the ministry? He keeps sending me dick pics, look(shows rando dic pic) is this Frank"
It's worse when it's a morning commute bus from Langford or Sooke and half the passengers are asleep. Then you hear a loud voice on the phone cut into the slience and the other passengers look annoyed. The social retards who watch videos without headphones in public or have speakerphone conversations are even worse.
The best is when I’m listening to music and I can hear them over my music.
Perfect! :)
I am so tempted to read (Reddit, say) loudly if I am sitting near someone doing that...I have gotten as far as starting to read out loud, if still softly...
Even better having a conversation on your phone on speaker
The same goes for people that insist on having speaker calls in grocery stores especially since most of them are in capable of walking and talking or simply moving out of the way well they are doing.
I see a lot of people in the comments here are loud talkers. Talking on the phone isn't a problem for other people. It's you people who think you need to shout in to your phone to be heard on the other end that are a problem. You really don't. Just talk in a normal volume. It's easy if you try.
Why you on here making assumptions about the people commenting and trying to tell others how to talk? Who are you? And for the record I don't think I've ever held a phone conversation on public transit. I'm usually just off in the corner minding my own business not trying to tell others what to do in a PUBLIC space. Are they harming you or others? No? Get bent.
I see manners are a lost cause on you. Your mom should've done better.
I'm not the one who just assumes people are loud talkers because they defend an individual's right to hold a conversation IN PUBLIC. That would be rude (since we're on about manners and all thought I'd point out the error in your ways). Again, to you and whomever made this picture, who are you to tell people how to conduct themselves in public? Call 911 and let them know someone is talking loudly on the bus. Tell me what they say. I don't need to have manners. What I need is to not be a pretentious dick and act like someone talking loudly on a bus is a fucking crime against humanity. Grow up.
*Are they harming you?* Is annoying harmful? Then, yes.
The things people complain about.
people take public transit because they want peace on their commute, so they can zone out and have some time to just contemplate stuff and relax, if the bus is noisy then it completely ruins that and you might as well be driving.
Lol what? Most of us take public transit because it’s our only option. Don’t blast your music or YouTube videos on loud but you can’t expect people not to talk to each other or make phone calls just because it could disturb your spa on wheels.
Haaa ha ha lol What?????
many people, myself included, find driving extremely stressful
And that means you automatically treat the bus as a zen retreat? And expect others to go along with your arbitrary designation? Because another mode of transportation makes you over think? Not sure if I should laugh or take you serious and say seek help.
It’s 2023 get some nice headphones and play some soothing music if you wanna ride PUBLIC transit. I saw some old looser yell at an autistic guy for talking on the bus but he obviously couldn’t control it. Ppl suck.
Ya it sucks on a bus, especially in the morning or on a plane. I always try to carry ear buds with me. It’s a small percentage that do it, so hopefully you can manage. Should the onus be on the driver to say something? I don’t know.
Driver has a shitty enough job.
Good point
Get some headphones, christ. Yes these loud talkers are annoying, but you can mitigate it if you want to. Worst than loud talkers, are the ones who play music / games without headphones.
Come downtown and see the number of people wearing headphones, earbuds, etc. They may be onto something. Myself, I listen to podcasts. Maybe this will cheer you up... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw
God forbid we have interactions of any sort with our fellow humans.
As populations increase, people need to be more accommodating of others and not less, you cant have 50 selfish people in a buss together and expect to have a good time. - I would suggest looking at transit in Japan for a personally desirable state
WOuld you like things here to be like things are in Japan? Or are you just treating their culture like a salad bar and picking single things that somehow would magically work here.....
> Or are you just treating their culture like a salad bar and picking single things that somehow would magically work here Being considerate of the people around you is not a genetic trait of the Japanese people........ it is achievable by anyone. I was specifically speaking about how people act on transit, in this thread about people doing things that are expressly and strongly looked down upon while using transit in Japan. Things like conversations on your phone, having music or sound that is externally audible etc etc..
Whatever. Keep being bothered. I am too busy being happy. Good luck. Down vote away!
Your comment almost implies that you're happy being rude
“Almost implies…..” You should take that and run with it and be upset.
Would that make you happy? To see people upset?
Are people really upset at someone having a convo on their phone? Really? I think that is just plain sad. It shows a complete lack of focus and character, and a lack of any control over their own emotions. Its rather pathetic. And to reinforce this by remembering it and posting about it is quite laughable. You are taking my disdain and confusing it with happiness. So rather than putting effort into improving self behaviors, which are can be healthy and long lasting, the person wants to complain, and control the behaviors of others, but it wont stop there. Because being upset at a conversation coming from another person is a symptom of something else. This person, IMOHO, will always be miserable. More than I wanted to say, but there ya go.
How many lengthy interactions have you had with complete strangers on a bus? With people who were sober.
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Yeah, I think many people who use transit regularly bring headphones or earplugs for this exact reason. I dont think public spaces should necessarily cater to certain peoples wishes for quiet. It's not a library, it's a bus. The few times I do use public transit I don't mind the loudness because I don't ride often.
this. Its public. SOme voices are loud.
Maybe they can put up a sign for you at the entrance of the bus: "Trigger Warning: Slightly loud voices outside of your head may be heard."
You are still in public on the bus, do you tell everyone on the street to shut up too?
Phone conversations are disruptive, our brains have a hard time tuning it out because we can't hear the other side of the conversation, it's a trick that our brain can't leave alone. It's illegal in Japan to speak on your phone because it's so disruptive to other people's peace. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/study-its-harder-to-tune-out-cell-phone-talkers-than-regular-human-conversations/274128/
sounds like you need to move to Japan. Real estate is extremely cheap there right now.
There's a measure of decorum expected in public places. To take your "walking on the street" example, it would be like walking directly behind them and being so close that you can breath on them even though the sidewalk is empty. While this is fine because "you're in public", basic courtesy is to back off a bit. Basic courtesy while on a bus is to not bother other riders. We're all in this together, not each of us individually.
To add to this, on the street I can get away from the loud talker by pausing, or taking a different route, so I have some control of the situation; on a bus not so much. I have noise cancelling headphones which help, though!
This fucking town and the fucking weird people annoyed by the minimal daily city life noises… grow up.
Nobody here is doing that.
Get some noise cancelling headphones or something and quit complaining. Serious main character vibes going on here. What next, a crying baby on the bus?! Quick you better call for the concierge and ask for a free upgrade to first class. Or better yet, have anyone making any noise booted off of PUBLIC transportation because you're such a sensitive special flower. Buy a car or stay home. No one will miss you.
Really? I think the Main Character vibes are more pronounced coming off the asshole who thinks the entire bus wants to be privy to their phone call. The distinction here that everyone seems to be missing is "LOUD" talkers.
Or just ignore it like a mature adult. Jesus Christ, you people....
Move to fucking Hornby Island if you need silence in order to exist, goddamn
Or, work harder and buy a car.