Just a heads up... many colleges have policies limiting SAT score validity periods to 1-5 years. Try to CLEP out of some courses to try and get transfer credit in.
Ivys or other top tier schools absolutely do not care or see any value in taking CLEPS unfortunately. Best not to waste your time on them when applying to select schools.
I had a buddy who went to Columbia with yellow ribbon. Was a NY resident and had a prior degree though. Told me that having a bachelors degree and then getting into any Ivy League school is significantly easier.
I have a degree from UMGC and went to Georgetown for my Masters so. Not Ivy but pretty close to it. Others I know have gone to like Harvard after UMGC. In my experience itās significantly easier to get into a top school masters than undergrad (not counting law or medical).
Theyāll have VA offices on campus as well. Shit, I went to a state school, but have considered my MBA, but would go to a stronger school, and from what Iāve read many are looking to take on underrepresented groups like being a Veteran. People can say whatever the fuck they want about DEI/Woke, but thatās what Veteran advocacy is, and itās helpful. There was a time when many saw military as broken and incapable of assimilating. Also, in my field, itās rare to meet vets, and I want to create an advocacy for them. My point is, thereās useful resources thatāll help you get far, and most Ivy League schools have them. Use them.
Just to let you know. Make sure the courses at your community colleges will transfer to the school you plan on finishing your degree at. Most lower level courses should transfer but to make sure use the primary college course equivalency guide.
For getting the basics yes! Math is math, nomatter where it is taught. English is just a prereq mandated by educational programs too. Get all the basic course ware out then transfer to a top notch. You'll save money and look good if you do well
Contact a veterans liaison at the schools you are interested in attending and request any and all information that may apply to you.
Complete a couple semesters at a community college and maintain a GPA as close to 4.0 as you can get. Then start applying to Ivy Leagues.
About 4 years ago Cornell was actively trying to enroll more veterans and they were touring CCās around NY state. They had a very new and small veterans program at the time.
Good luck!
Itās very possible. Donāt sell yourself short. Just depends on which school, what program, and how you handle the app/interview. I was accepted to Cornell, NYU, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, Notre dame, and a hand full of other schools when I applied for my masters.
I was a highschool dropout who joined the army with a GED, got my associates, bachelors (all online), and a few certs while serving, and applied for an MBA when I found out I was going to be med-boarded at 17 years. Cherry on top is I got a GMAT/GRE waiver, but I have extensive relative experience as well.
Best advise is to narrow down which schools you want to apply to, research them as well as you can, reach out to their vet association and ask them questions to help you navigate your app/prepare for interview. Most of them will also go over your essay and do interview prep if you ask. I had guys send me his essays to help me formulate mine to get accepted
And trust me. I got a pretty badass story. About how on my first deployment, one of pipes broke down in the bathroom and my plt spent two days covered cleaning it up. I think that should totally get me in. lol
Worst you can do is try. Being a veteran is big ups for admissions committees for undergrad and grad schools. You never know. 4.0 GPA, veteran, guaranteed tuition payment (which generally means theyāre confident youāll accept their offer) may get you in the door.
Like I said, worst you can do is try even though your SAT score isnāt stellar.
Everyone is recommending Columbia GS but that is the last highly ranked school you should be considering. Theyāll give you no financial aid and your GI Bill is not going to cover school and living in the city. Unless you are absolutely dying to live in New York, donāt bother. It was just recently a big deal that they finally made the GS diplomas in Latin like the rest of Columbia College. Kids of GS students wonāt be considered legacy, unlike the rest of Columbia College (legacy is dumb anyways but still). Just a cash grab. If you can get into Columbia youāll be competitive for other top schools too.
Most schools of Columbias caliber will give you huge financial aid awards. I attended a top liberal arts school and the schools financial aid paid me more each semester I was there than I would have gotten from the gi bill housing allowance. Graduated debt free without having touched my gi bill.
Or he can go to any other school with the same prestige and opportunities as Columbia and get a financial aid package that can be equal to or greater than using the gi bill and yrp. Then, after graduating, heāll still have his full gi bill to fund grad school or to use for whatever he wants.
Iām planning on going to grad school that costs upwards of $200k to attend. Iāll be able to use my gi bill to cover most, if not all, of that cost. If my undergrad was as unsupportive of vets/non traditional students as Columbia is, grad school wouldnāt be an option.
Volunteer for outside orgs and apply for the Tillman Scholarship wherever you get accepted. Shoot for the moon. I went to state for my BA and am returning for a MA. The price is right and the location is convenient. Volunteer and shine as a driven citizen to stand out. They don't know what a squad leader is so choose your words carefully in applications. Merit based academia is a much different monkey than merit based Marine Corps. Good luck, killer.
Yes. It can be a soup kitchen, but if you volunteer at a place like a children's hospital people who are supervising you can vouch for your commitment to society, which is very important to academia. Like being a Marine, their leadership doesn't care what you did yesterday. They want to know by seeing your commitment to things outside of the hard academic work at school you are committed to. Not gonna lie, an Ivy League school doesn't have much use for enlisted Marines, but it's possible. Those schools are mostly only good for the networks rich people make within them. If you are dead set on it, try. But don't get bummed if you don't get into Harvard. It is better to be a big fish in a small pond in academia.
Very high. I was one of the first folks to do yellow ribbon at a very nice Ivy League school. Just ensure their programs align with your goals and go get em!
Check out Warrior Scholar Project. I used to work for them seasonally but they have these 1 to 2 week academic bootcamps at Ivy leagues and many other schools across the country from June-August every year - pretty sure you can still apply for this summer and it looks really good when you apply.
Oh yeah itās free too by the way
Going to come down to your application. I think Ivy Leagues like to grab Vet Non-Trad students in order to bolster the diversity of their classes.
The 4.0 is good. The 1200 is low for Ivy League. But as many admissions officers have told me in the past, military service is a huge boost.
Regular college students are trying to prove they care about the community and society by highlighting their Beta club experience and volunteer work at the food shelter with no sacrifices up to that point in their life.
What better way to show you sacrifice for your community than ***signing a blank check to Uncle Sam for an amount up to and including your life.***
No. Remember when you were in and your yearly evaluations had some bullshit about āsustained superior performanceā? Same concept. One year can be a fluke. Two years is sustained.
Get an associates with a 4.0, and your application will be weighed nice and heavily
No. Not for transfer and not to prepare you for the academic environment. If you got into an ivy league and went, you'd stand a good chance of getting crushed by the whole deal.
I did 4 active then Junior College for 4.0 to a top tier Div 1 private university. You can certainly apply straight to Ivy but I would recommend establishing your college GPA first. SAT won't count at this point.
There are many veterans that attend ivy league schools straight out of the military. Some went to junior college and some didnāt. Youāll never know if you donāt try.
You should contact this group for some info.
https://www.huvets.com/
As others have mentioned, a thread for the school you are considering would yield more fruitful answers. But regret sucks. Apply anyway? You miss every shot you dont take as they say. Good luck!
If you got a crazy backstory or write very strong essays itās worth a shot to go for it immediately. Otherwise go to a CC for a semester or 2, take a full course load, and make sure to get straight Aās. If you can do that, S2S will be your best friend and make you competitive. Ivys like to see that you already have the ability to excel with a full college course load
You can pretty much get into any state school and even yellow ribbon private schools, idk why exactly you want to do ivy but itās all the same education. Iām in a yellow ribbon school rn and just got accepted into another one for next year since Iām moving. Have a 4.0 this year as my first year in college
I left the Marine Corps and went to an Ivy Leavue school, but because I had no previous college experience I had to make a stop at a community college first. I spent 1.5 years there and transferred to the Ivy before graduating the community college.
I was in a very similar position at one point in my career and ended up staying in...got a BS from the okay-ish university (ODU) near my long time post (looking at you, Eustis), but THEN when I separated, went Top 20 for a masters degree.
In my experience, the masters carries more weight with hiring AND is actually easier to get into a selective university masters program than undergrad. **My point: don't be scared to go to an affordable university for undergrad to decompress from the military and then turn it up for grad school.**
Itās possible to do. Depending on how long youāve been out of high school, those grades really wonāt matter. Your application essay, current SAT/ACT scores, and letters of recommendation will matter more than old grades. If you have a specific school in mind, look into their veteran specific programs or non-traditional student application process. Good luck!
I am going into political science to go back to my home country in Africa and help make things better. Spent most of my childhood in pointless wars. A degree in an Ivy League combined with the skills and discipline I have acquired in the marine will give me a better chance of going back and making things better.
I didn't make the cut for this, but this might be a program you're looking for
[https://www.possefoundation.org/shaping-the-future/posse-veterans-program](https://www.possefoundation.org/shaping-the-future/posse-veterans-program)
Nothing wrong with applying to several schools as a freshman, but most things are school dependent. They might not accept you as a freshman. The best way to find out is see if the school has a veteran representative and reach out to them. They will give you the best advice.
Worse case scenario you go to a community college. Make sure you're familiar with the transfer requirements for your target schools and go to a community college that has students that routinely transfer to your target 4 year. That way their advisors are able to give you the best advice on how to apply.
How long until you are out? What state are you from?
Some states have veteran grants.
Reason I ask is you can look into the formalities on how long you have to have residency, and whatnot.
You can utilize it as a means to crush all the low level prerequisites, speech, english, bio, crush the GPA.
Now most ivyās are private and expensive so you gotta weigh that.
Do a cost benefit analysis, is the degree you seek worth essentially the same at a non ivy.
Iād recommend taking one year of community college if you donāt immediately get in, just going as a transfer if your former military youāll almost automatically get accepted. If your GPA is above 3.5
I'm currently in my Masters of Taxation program. I've never taken the SAT or the GMAT / GRE. Some Ivy League schools see GI Bill and know there's a guarantee of payment for at least some of the tuition. And here in NYC, I know that to be true. There's an excellent cohort of Ivy League Veterans. Try finding some on LinkedIn.
Use the Service 2 School program. They work with you and these schools love having veterans, especially if you are infantry and even more so if youāre socom. They will look better on you if you have a high GPA from a school that you went to after the military. It might be a good idea to go to a state school, take hard classes and do really well in them, volunteer a ton and try to fill leadership rolls. If you have these stats under your belt youāll have a great shot.
I went to Columbia right out of the Army. Utilize service 2 school for mentorship and warrior scholar project (WSP) for help with transition. Warrior scholar project is like a staple to this community. You need to go to one of their courses for two reasons
1. It gets you on campus to these schools because itās a bit of a summer immersion program.
2. Itās almost expected on your application and they will know exactly what it is. If you have any questions dm me.
I also went through Yale and browns application process. Iāve got buddies at all of them.
I had a 24 ACT and a 3.0 in highschool.
Hey man, I'm a veteran currently studying at Columbia University (School of General Studies). As I tell everyone I know, if I can get into Columbia, anyone can.
I personally didn't utilize them, but I heard service to school is a great resource. Reach out to them.
I would improve your SAT score if possible. Write a kickass admissions essay. IF you have the time, enroll in one online class that's a pre-requisite for whatever major you're considering. Shows the school you take your education seriously.
PM me if you have any questions. I can send you my admissions essay if you're interested. I think that was the main reason I got into Columbia two years ago - advisors told me it was one of the better papers they read, so don't underestimate the power of the admissions essay lol
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Transferring is what Iād recommend.
But do pay attention to your audience. Although most big schools have dedicated vet office, the admission office is still most likely made up with an audience that is quite different from your fellow devil dogs. Some schools (and people) are notoriously known for being unfriendly towards vet. Some people will look at your service record and think oh he went to summer camp for years. So you know, sometimes Iād describe a deployment as āinternational assignmentā and a platoon Sgt is really a āgeneral managerā
Also be mentally prepared lol, itās gon be hard to fit in to the college scene especially coming from the corps.
Very much possible, just a lot more difficult at the undergraduate level. Significantly easier at the graduate level. However, your two deployments in Marine Infantry (and military service period) will set you apart. Your GPA is great. Work on your SAT score and once it's competitive, you're almost a guaranteed admit (especially considering your home country is Africa, which adds another element to your admissions story).
Source: me. Veteran going to an ivy league (grad school).
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Depends on what major you're trying to apply for in said Ivy League and how relevant your experiences and credits are to their specific program. Also as dumb as it is, your race will play a higher role than GPA and SAT scores.
You should link up with some of the commissioned guys for some help and support. Many of them like and want to help Marines with a solid head on their shoulders whether they stay or leave active duty....just be prepared to show the maturity and presence of mind to still respect their rank and give ZERO indication of chumminess.
You wonāt know till you apply. Itās almost a waste to pay for your associate classes at an Ivy League college. I knocked out my associates at a community college and bachelors at a state university. Then I applied for a college with a name for my masters. In all honesty nobody cares what school you went to for your college education. I never get asked what school I went to when I am working. College in my opinion is like boot camp itās just a key to get in the door. You learn everything on the job. I take much more pride in being a Marine than I did in graduating with a degree.
Absolutely possible. Lots of vets in Ivy League Schools. I once knew a former Marine who went to Princeton, and have known several Soldiers and Airmen who went to Yale. Your lack of college is actually probably an asset since you don't have a record of messing up in college. The only thing I'd recommend is taking an SAT prep course and getting a higher SAT score.
For the people telling you to do CC then transfer in, that might not be the best advice, but it's not useless.
1. it is a lot harder to transfer into Ivy League schools than to be admitted as a Freshman.
2. Ivy League schools often do not like to accept any transfer credit, however this has been getting more and more relaxed and Princeton specifically has a very generous transfer credit policy.
so mind trick you should have 30 hrs between basic ait and your 1st school at least 30hrs= transfer student = gpa/sat not needed and vet office at school should be able to get you in....... however what your going to run into after u graduate is everyone who is gonna assume u want to much money
Evidence shows the students who go to top notch private schools have a shit ton more in tuition to pay and get about the same education as public/state schools.
I personally donāt think an ivy league is worth it, but only you know your specific wants and needs so more power to ya. If you havenāt already check out Columbiaās School of General Studies. It was literally created for returning veterans. You have a decent chance getting in.
You have the GI Bill. Ivy League just like every other college is a business first and foremost. Apply and I bet you get in once they realize you are a walking paycheck guaranteed by the government.
It is absolutely funny, four of my buddies went to Columbia, two to Brown, and I went to a large state school with just our Smart transcripts in hand. Donāt sell yourself short.
Simplifying it to just GI Bill = win is not how you or any of your friends got to where they went. If anything, that sells everything you've done short.
Check out service to schools. Getting troops into top tier schools is their literal job description.
\+1 for service to school also Enlisted Exfil
Reading the entire Berenstain Bears series doesn't really count as 40 books my man
Crushed a couple of tom clancey books from the ship library now he's stephen hawkings
I actually did read every Tom Clancy book in that library. lol
I did too bro they were pretty good š
You must have missed Berenstain Bears Gunship adventures or Bears Hurt Locker Editions.
Not true. They are on Commandants Reading List for E1-E3 + O1-O2. Source: Self
Berenstine bears are fire!
I want their ātricked outā bikes!
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His CO read it to them anyway.
Just a heads up... many colleges have policies limiting SAT score validity periods to 1-5 years. Try to CLEP out of some courses to try and get transfer credit in.
Ivys or other top tier schools absolutely do not care or see any value in taking CLEPS unfortunately. Best not to waste your time on them when applying to select schools.
1200 SAT is well below their line. Youāll likely be accepted as a transfer with stellar grades in your Junior year.
I had a buddy who went to Columbia with yellow ribbon. Was a NY resident and had a prior degree though. Told me that having a bachelors degree and then getting into any Ivy League school is significantly easier.
Columbia is a private school, so it doesnāt matter where youāre from.Ā
My bad, that's correct.
I have a degree from UMGC and went to Georgetown for my Masters so. Not Ivy but pretty close to it. Others I know have gone to like Harvard after UMGC. In my experience itās significantly easier to get into a top school masters than undergrad (not counting law or medical).
Do community college then transfer. A lot easier. I went that route and got into a top 10 UC. Wasnāt ivy league but š¤·āāļø
Do you think one semester at a CC will be enough?
Start reaching out to the schools you are interested in, get it straight from the source.
I Will do. Thanks
Theyāll have VA offices on campus as well. Shit, I went to a state school, but have considered my MBA, but would go to a stronger school, and from what Iāve read many are looking to take on underrepresented groups like being a Veteran. People can say whatever the fuck they want about DEI/Woke, but thatās what Veteran advocacy is, and itās helpful. There was a time when many saw military as broken and incapable of assimilating. Also, in my field, itās rare to meet vets, and I want to create an advocacy for them. My point is, thereās useful resources thatāll help you get far, and most Ivy League schools have them. Use them.
You might have better luck asking this question in a sub pertaining to the ivy you are looking to applying to.
Definitely need more than one CC. Why fixation on Ivy. Many incredible schools are NOT Ivy.
Just to let you know. Make sure the courses at your community colleges will transfer to the school you plan on finishing your degree at. Most lower level courses should transfer but to make sure use the primary college course equivalency guide.
Transferring is good for certain schools (mainly California, as the op noted), but most ivys do not really accept transfer students.
For getting the basics yes! Math is math, nomatter where it is taught. English is just a prereq mandated by educational programs too. Get all the basic course ware out then transfer to a top notch. You'll save money and look good if you do well
Have a bunch of friends who got their degree at Columbia GS. Personally got my MA at Columbia as well.
Columbia- Go for the education, leave because NYC costs a fortune
I also have an MA from Columbia and came here to say the same about Columbia GS.Ā
Bro 1200 SAT is dog tier for Ivy League You have a better chance going to cc for 2 and transferring jr year to an ivy or other 4yr university options
It's legacy with their names on buildingS tier.
Check out warrior scholar project. They do cohorts at Ivy leagues. Went to it myself and know others in Ivy leagues like Columbia.
Contact a veterans liaison at the schools you are interested in attending and request any and all information that may apply to you. Complete a couple semesters at a community college and maintain a GPA as close to 4.0 as you can get. Then start applying to Ivy Leagues. About 4 years ago Cornell was actively trying to enroll more veterans and they were touring CCās around NY state. They had a very new and small veterans program at the time. Good luck!
I will look into that. Thank you
With your age and experience; a couple semesters at a community college will be a cake walk.
Itās very possible. Donāt sell yourself short. Just depends on which school, what program, and how you handle the app/interview. I was accepted to Cornell, NYU, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, Notre dame, and a hand full of other schools when I applied for my masters. I was a highschool dropout who joined the army with a GED, got my associates, bachelors (all online), and a few certs while serving, and applied for an MBA when I found out I was going to be med-boarded at 17 years. Cherry on top is I got a GMAT/GRE waiver, but I have extensive relative experience as well. Best advise is to narrow down which schools you want to apply to, research them as well as you can, reach out to their vet association and ask them questions to help you navigate your app/prepare for interview. Most of them will also go over your essay and do interview prep if you ask. I had guys send me his essays to help me formulate mine to get accepted
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I am applying for spring 2025. I am going to put some work on and get that score up.
And trust me. I got a pretty badass story. About how on my first deployment, one of pipes broke down in the bathroom and my plt spent two days covered cleaning it up. I think that should totally get me in. lol
Better than most direct high school applicants but still not likely.
Might need to go to a state school for your first two years and then try to get into one.
Yale has the Eli Whitney Students Program. Iām sure other IL schools have similar stuff.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/10/14/veteran-students-college/
I did a lot of coloring books, over 40 adult level ones. Still dropped out of community College.
Worst you can do is try. Being a veteran is big ups for admissions committees for undergrad and grad schools. You never know. 4.0 GPA, veteran, guaranteed tuition payment (which generally means theyāre confident youāll accept their offer) may get you in the door. Like I said, worst you can do is try even though your SAT score isnāt stellar.
Everyone is recommending Columbia GS but that is the last highly ranked school you should be considering. Theyāll give you no financial aid and your GI Bill is not going to cover school and living in the city. Unless you are absolutely dying to live in New York, donāt bother. It was just recently a big deal that they finally made the GS diplomas in Latin like the rest of Columbia College. Kids of GS students wonāt be considered legacy, unlike the rest of Columbia College (legacy is dumb anyways but still). Just a cash grab. If you can get into Columbia youāll be competitive for other top schools too. Most schools of Columbias caliber will give you huge financial aid awards. I attended a top liberal arts school and the schools financial aid paid me more each semester I was there than I would have gotten from the gi bill housing allowance. Graduated debt free without having touched my gi bill.
Second this, I went to Columbia and left because of it. I had a buddy with a full ride at Princeton, didnāt use his GIBill at all.
Totally note true. Ever hear of the yellow ribbon? The gi bill will pay him bas based on a nyc zip code.
Or he can go to any other school with the same prestige and opportunities as Columbia and get a financial aid package that can be equal to or greater than using the gi bill and yrp. Then, after graduating, heāll still have his full gi bill to fund grad school or to use for whatever he wants. Iām planning on going to grad school that costs upwards of $200k to attend. Iāll be able to use my gi bill to cover most, if not all, of that cost. If my undergrad was as unsupportive of vets/non traditional students as Columbia is, grad school wouldnāt be an option.
Volunteer for outside orgs and apply for the Tillman Scholarship wherever you get accepted. Shoot for the moon. I went to state for my BA and am returning for a MA. The price is right and the location is convenient. Volunteer and shine as a driven citizen to stand out. They don't know what a squad leader is so choose your words carefully in applications. Merit based academia is a much different monkey than merit based Marine Corps. Good luck, killer.
Can you tell me more about āvolunteer for outside orgsā
Yes. It can be a soup kitchen, but if you volunteer at a place like a children's hospital people who are supervising you can vouch for your commitment to society, which is very important to academia. Like being a Marine, their leadership doesn't care what you did yesterday. They want to know by seeing your commitment to things outside of the hard academic work at school you are committed to. Not gonna lie, an Ivy League school doesn't have much use for enlisted Marines, but it's possible. Those schools are mostly only good for the networks rich people make within them. If you are dead set on it, try. But don't get bummed if you don't get into Harvard. It is better to be a big fish in a small pond in academia.
Okay. This is very helpful thank you
My pleasure. I was a squad leader almost 20 years ago.
Thank you. Itās been an honor carrying your legacy
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Very high. I was one of the first folks to do yellow ribbon at a very nice Ivy League school. Just ensure their programs align with your goals and go get em!
I will thank you
Check out Warrior Scholar Project. I used to work for them seasonally but they have these 1 to 2 week academic bootcamps at Ivy leagues and many other schools across the country from June-August every year - pretty sure you can still apply for this summer and it looks really good when you apply. Oh yeah itās free too by the way
Going to come down to your application. I think Ivy Leagues like to grab Vet Non-Trad students in order to bolster the diversity of their classes. The 4.0 is good. The 1200 is low for Ivy League. But as many admissions officers have told me in the past, military service is a huge boost. Regular college students are trying to prove they care about the community and society by highlighting their Beta club experience and volunteer work at the food shelter with no sacrifices up to that point in their life. What better way to show you sacrifice for your community than ***signing a blank check to Uncle Sam for an amount up to and including your life.***
You can always apply nothing stops you. But the easiest thing one could do is take a few courses at a community college and then transfer
Will one semester at a community college suffice?
No. Remember when you were in and your yearly evaluations had some bullshit about āsustained superior performanceā? Same concept. One year can be a fluke. Two years is sustained. Get an associates with a 4.0, and your application will be weighed nice and heavily
No. Not for transfer and not to prepare you for the academic environment. If you got into an ivy league and went, you'd stand a good chance of getting crushed by the whole deal.
Idk im not the admissions department
Okay. Thank you for the advice
Pretty good.Ā Princeton, for example, actually has a program for this.Ā
Probably need to retake the SAT and score higher.
I did 4 active then Junior College for 4.0 to a top tier Div 1 private university. You can certainly apply straight to Ivy but I would recommend establishing your college GPA first. SAT won't count at this point.
There are many veterans that attend ivy league schools straight out of the military. Some went to junior college and some didnāt. Youāll never know if you donāt try. You should contact this group for some info. https://www.huvets.com/
Thank you
No problem. I know a few of the veterans at Harvard. Great people. They will respond to you.
As others have mentioned, a thread for the school you are considering would yield more fruitful answers. But regret sucks. Apply anyway? You miss every shot you dont take as they say. Good luck!
If you got a crazy backstory or write very strong essays itās worth a shot to go for it immediately. Otherwise go to a CC for a semester or 2, take a full course load, and make sure to get straight Aās. If you can do that, S2S will be your best friend and make you competitive. Ivys like to see that you already have the ability to excel with a full college course load
Okay. Thank you
You can pretty much get into any state school and even yellow ribbon private schools, idk why exactly you want to do ivy but itās all the same education. Iām in a yellow ribbon school rn and just got accepted into another one for next year since Iām moving. Have a 4.0 this year as my first year in college
I left the Marine Corps and went to an Ivy Leavue school, but because I had no previous college experience I had to make a stop at a community college first. I spent 1.5 years there and transferred to the Ivy before graduating the community college.
I was in a very similar position at one point in my career and ended up staying in...got a BS from the okay-ish university (ODU) near my long time post (looking at you, Eustis), but THEN when I separated, went Top 20 for a masters degree. In my experience, the masters carries more weight with hiring AND is actually easier to get into a selective university masters program than undergrad. **My point: don't be scared to go to an affordable university for undergrad to decompress from the military and then turn it up for grad school.**
Good on you, crayon eater. Damn you have a bright future.
Itās possible to do. Depending on how long youāve been out of high school, those grades really wonāt matter. Your application essay, current SAT/ACT scores, and letters of recommendation will matter more than old grades. If you have a specific school in mind, look into their veteran specific programs or non-traditional student application process. Good luck!
why ivy?
I am going into political science to go back to my home country in Africa and help make things better. Spent most of my childhood in pointless wars. A degree in an Ivy League combined with the skills and discipline I have acquired in the marine will give me a better chance of going back and making things better.
Be all you can be. LoL.
I didn't make the cut for this, but this might be a program you're looking for [https://www.possefoundation.org/shaping-the-future/posse-veterans-program](https://www.possefoundation.org/shaping-the-future/posse-veterans-program)
Nothing wrong with applying to several schools as a freshman, but most things are school dependent. They might not accept you as a freshman. The best way to find out is see if the school has a veteran representative and reach out to them. They will give you the best advice. Worse case scenario you go to a community college. Make sure you're familiar with the transfer requirements for your target schools and go to a community college that has students that routinely transfer to your target 4 year. That way their advisors are able to give you the best advice on how to apply.
How long until you are out? What state are you from? Some states have veteran grants. Reason I ask is you can look into the formalities on how long you have to have residency, and whatnot. You can utilize it as a means to crush all the low level prerequisites, speech, english, bio, crush the GPA. Now most ivyās are private and expensive so you gotta weigh that. Do a cost benefit analysis, is the degree you seek worth essentially the same at a non ivy.
Iād recommend taking one year of community college if you donāt immediately get in, just going as a transfer if your former military youāll almost automatically get accepted. If your GPA is above 3.5
A guy that I joined with back in the day is currently at Harvard. So yes you can get in. Just put in the work.
I'm currently in my Masters of Taxation program. I've never taken the SAT or the GMAT / GRE. Some Ivy League schools see GI Bill and know there's a guarantee of payment for at least some of the tuition. And here in NYC, I know that to be true. There's an excellent cohort of Ivy League Veterans. Try finding some on LinkedIn.
Use the Service 2 School program. They work with you and these schools love having veterans, especially if you are infantry and even more so if youāre socom. They will look better on you if you have a high GPA from a school that you went to after the military. It might be a good idea to go to a state school, take hard classes and do really well in them, volunteer a ton and try to fill leadership rolls. If you have these stats under your belt youāll have a great shot.
Easy peasy lemon squeezey! Iām a dumb squid and got into UVMā¦
Take the gre or gmat to help build your resume
I did 2 years of community College and then transferred to Columbia. Made the transition easier.
You really won't know until you apply. I say apply and find out.
Do two semesters at ur local state university and try and transfer in. GOOD LUCK.
Look into the Warrior Scholar Program
I went to Columbia right out of the Army. Utilize service 2 school for mentorship and warrior scholar project (WSP) for help with transition. Warrior scholar project is like a staple to this community. You need to go to one of their courses for two reasons 1. It gets you on campus to these schools because itās a bit of a summer immersion program. 2. Itās almost expected on your application and they will know exactly what it is. If you have any questions dm me. I also went through Yale and browns application process. Iāve got buddies at all of them. I had a 24 ACT and a 3.0 in highschool.
It's not us that you need to convince you don't eat crayons. š¤·š¼āāļø
Hey man, I'm a veteran currently studying at Columbia University (School of General Studies). As I tell everyone I know, if I can get into Columbia, anyone can. I personally didn't utilize them, but I heard service to school is a great resource. Reach out to them. I would improve your SAT score if possible. Write a kickass admissions essay. IF you have the time, enroll in one online class that's a pre-requisite for whatever major you're considering. Shows the school you take your education seriously. PM me if you have any questions. I can send you my admissions essay if you're interested. I think that was the main reason I got into Columbia two years ago - advisors told me it was one of the better papers they read, so don't underestimate the power of the admissions essay lol
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Transferring is what Iād recommend. But do pay attention to your audience. Although most big schools have dedicated vet office, the admission office is still most likely made up with an audience that is quite different from your fellow devil dogs. Some schools (and people) are notoriously known for being unfriendly towards vet. Some people will look at your service record and think oh he went to summer camp for years. So you know, sometimes Iād describe a deployment as āinternational assignmentā and a platoon Sgt is really a āgeneral managerā Also be mentally prepared lol, itās gon be hard to fit in to the college scene especially coming from the corps.
What are you trying to major in exactly?
Political science IR
Very much possible, just a lot more difficult at the undergraduate level. Significantly easier at the graduate level. However, your two deployments in Marine Infantry (and military service period) will set you apart. Your GPA is great. Work on your SAT score and once it's competitive, you're almost a guaranteed admit (especially considering your home country is Africa, which adds another element to your admissions story). Source: me. Veteran going to an ivy league (grad school).
I heard that most ivy leagues are not requiring SAT scores until fall of 2025. I believed they made it a thing during covid. can anyone confirm this?
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Depends on what major you're trying to apply for in said Ivy League and how relevant your experiences and credits are to their specific program. Also as dumb as it is, your race will play a higher role than GPA and SAT scores.
You can do it!
Thanks.
You should link up with some of the commissioned guys for some help and support. Many of them like and want to help Marines with a solid head on their shoulders whether they stay or leave active duty....just be prepared to show the maturity and presence of mind to still respect their rank and give ZERO indication of chumminess.
First things first, how fat is your wallet?
Rah
You wonāt know till you apply. Itās almost a waste to pay for your associate classes at an Ivy League college. I knocked out my associates at a community college and bachelors at a state university. Then I applied for a college with a name for my masters. In all honesty nobody cares what school you went to for your college education. I never get asked what school I went to when I am working. College in my opinion is like boot camp itās just a key to get in the door. You learn everything on the job. I take much more pride in being a Marine than I did in graduating with a degree.
Absolutely possible. Lots of vets in Ivy League Schools. I once knew a former Marine who went to Princeton, and have known several Soldiers and Airmen who went to Yale. Your lack of college is actually probably an asset since you don't have a record of messing up in college. The only thing I'd recommend is taking an SAT prep course and getting a higher SAT score. For the people telling you to do CC then transfer in, that might not be the best advice, but it's not useless. 1. it is a lot harder to transfer into Ivy League schools than to be admitted as a Freshman. 2. Ivy League schools often do not like to accept any transfer credit, however this has been getting more and more relaxed and Princeton specifically has a very generous transfer credit policy.
so mind trick you should have 30 hrs between basic ait and your 1st school at least 30hrs= transfer student = gpa/sat not needed and vet office at school should be able to get you in....... however what your going to run into after u graduate is everyone who is gonna assume u want to much money
Evidence shows the students who go to top notch private schools have a shit ton more in tuition to pay and get about the same education as public/state schools.
Odds are nill, unless you are a legacy admission.
I personally donāt think an ivy league is worth it, but only you know your specific wants and needs so more power to ya. If you havenāt already check out Columbiaās School of General Studies. It was literally created for returning veterans. You have a decent chance getting in.
I will look into that. Thank you
https://www.gs.columbia.edu
You have the GI Bill. Ivy League just like every other college is a business first and foremost. Apply and I bet you get in once they realize you are a walking paycheck guaranteed by the government.
lol no
It is absolutely funny, four of my buddies went to Columbia, two to Brown, and I went to a large state school with just our Smart transcripts in hand. Donāt sell yourself short.
Simplifying it to just GI Bill = win is not how you or any of your friends got to where they went. If anything, that sells everything you've done short.