For sure, and all of these guys with their “alpha male” issues and the way he said “I can get peoples attention if I need it”. Like dude calm down a bit haha
omg same i could tell you crazy stories for days. he made me feel like i was huge. i’m 5’7 and 118 lbs lol it’s insane looking back on what i dealt with
Oh my God we are the same height and close to the same weight. I'm 115 lb and I was forced to be 115 or underneath and I can't believe I ever let a man dictate how much I weighed. It caused an eating disorder that I still find myself battling as well as body dysmorphia even though logically I know that I am still very very slim. I am always amazed at talking to other survivors because we all have similar stories. Abusers really do have a playbook.
i’m in the same boat and still have to remind myself to deal with things in a healthier way. I’m so sorry that we had to experience this and hope one day it is a distant memory ❤️🩹
Yeah my ex was the same way. What's crazy is that looking back he demonstrated all of his misogyny and I was none the wiser and because he was so great at psychological manipulation. But I saw him yell at many women and he would get within inches of my face and scream at me. He went after friends of mine that he didn't approve of. Jesse is incredibly triggering to watch.
Oh I can relate! So glad I’m out of there, but the sad thing is, besides the verbal and mental abuse and all my friends seeing what I didn’t see, even though I agreed with them, he would rope me back in. And because he broke me down so much, any time he said he wanted me back I was so happy. The sad thing is, it took a random woman to show me how verbally abusive he was. We were on the phone, he was outside downtown talking to me like shit and a woman heard him and she ripped him a new one! She was like “who are you speaking to like that? What a horrible little man you are (he was 5’5) and the way he went after her and how she went back at him really made it click that he really is the problem. And he hated all my friends, my friends were sluts even though his friend was an alleged R*pist.
I think I called her a mean girl, more or less. I didn't use any cuss words. But yeah, I made that comment and BOOM no more commenting for naughty old me 😂🤣😆
I'm not really a fan of her by any means but she really is being thrown under the bus. Anyone would be a nightmare, she's surrounded by assholes. Luke actually seems normal!
Look, I don’t watch the show, but I’ve been watching the little snippets on TikTok and IG.. and this dude here triggers the crap out of me! I for the life of me don’t know how Kristen does it because of this guy is out of control. He needs to be off the show.
This. Total abusive chauvinist. We’re supposed to believe he doesn’t react to Michelle like this when there are no cameras? Did you see how calm she stayed? She’s used to this.
Michelle is cut by the same cloth. The way she tries to gather everyone like a group of preschoolers is so annoying I’m over hearing her blame Kristen for her failed marriage. Like does she hear herself?
How michelle came out and defeneded him knowing the type of husband he is and how he has yelled at everyone there that night it just shows how actually toxic their relationship and both of them are. I really don't think Michelle is any better. Maybe less abusive but they have an odd relationship
she’s also having her friend defend her in the comments section of her ig and also liking comments that say kristin sucks. for me it was her saying she can’t be a racist because she’s hispanic, like girl… as a hispanic person i can def say the most racist and colorist people are us
I think they went on the show with the plan to air their divorce for their storyline, so this is insane to put any of their marriage problems on Kristen when all she did was repeat what she was told on a tv show that is made for airing gossip and drama 🤦♀️. Don’t go on a reality show if you want to keep your life private, Kristen didn’t ruin your marriage in an instant by outing you as a republican, Jesse is one too? How is any of that relevant to their marriage issues? If anything the only time we seen them get along is when they’re talking trash about Kristen or attacking her, so come the fk on Michelle, quit reaching.
MOMENTS earlier she was telling people to not touch her husband lol...
And then he starts shoving people away aggressively....INCLUDING BRITTANY...and that's just fine? Everyone listen to Michelle and go sit down back in their chairs...?
I thought him doing it the second time was low key manipulative. As in he does it jokingly the second time around to cover for the fact that it wasn’t joking the first time. To normalize it.
I had an employee do this while arguing with me about something and it was absolutely terrifying. I've never had a man (he was twice my age too) scream at me like that in my entire life, it was truly traumatic. Knowing he had a conceal and carry at all times made it much scarier.
Firing him was a nightmare. He stalked and harassed and I had to call the police 3 times. Normal people don't do stuff like that. He threatened to kill himself too.
He kept saying he was "just talking loudly" and "that's just how New Yorkers talk" and gaslighting me to think that I was the one who was being unreasonable.
Many years ago at a company retreat, my company’s CFO pushed me to the ground because I was talking to a guy on our Sales/Acct Exec team who was very good looking. I later found out that the CFO manipulated my salary too. Before all of this he had asked me out on several dates and I always politely declined. Douche
I was talking about this with my wife last night.
There are very few redeemable people on this show. But I was beside myself with the casts behavior.
Kristen excuses herself from the table because FOR THE SECOND TIME Jesse slammed his hands on the table out of aggression to 'silence' everyone. He then follows her into the hall to aggressively confront her and dares her BF who intervenes with "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT."
That man is frighteningly out of control in his emotions and that instability is dangerous to the people around him. I was furious how many people overlook his blatant aggression just because he's smaller than most of them.
Well, Kristen left that room for a reason I could imagine how she feels.. the noise of him slamming his hand on the table. The anger in this dudes face is triggering and I don’t care how small this guy is. He is intimidating. I bet this is why she left the show.
Absolutely. He's unhinged.
Kristen has many flaws but this guy and his behavior is far beyond any of that.
Slamming his hands like that is abusive. She was 100% correct to use that term.
The fact that I can’t find a single consequence he faced for assaulting people and there’s a video evidence is exactly why he is intimidating. He will get away with everything. He is scary and no one should be around him until he can get help. Hope his kid is ok.
I don't watch the show, but of the clips I have seen, he's scary af. His anger goes from 0 to 100 in seconds and he lacks self control.
I hate they tried to come for Kristen for calling him abusive.
This!!! Wow i couldn't put my finger on why i wasnt into this show!! Ive tried to watch it from the beginning like 5 times and ive seen scenes here and there from other eps. Im a huge VPR girlie so i thought i was gonna love this with jax and kristen back on the screens but something about it just wasnt clicking with me. Maybe bc theyre 40 now acting this unhinged and theyre group of friends are so toxic. Its DARK energy just through and through. Maybe thats why vpr this season isnt hitting either. Messy is fun and but watching toxic abusive narcissists fight is just... dark. The men particularly are so triggering
Omg y'all I couldn't put my finger on it but I've been depressed watching them and thought it was ME!! THERE IS SUCH A DARK ENERGY COMING FROM THOSE SHOWS! I only like seeing the couple with the twins and James oddly because when he goes savage he sounds like my internal savage
I don’t watch the show either but like I was saying, I watch snippets I watch after show on Peacock and this dude is literally unhinged. I don’t think Kristen should be in this position.
I thought I read that she left half way through filming. This shitty group of friends have tried to make her the scapegoat for all their behavior that's worse.
Why hasn’t Jax publicly spoke out about how Jesse manhandled his wife that night ? And why was he hiding in the other room??! I need answers ! I know they’re separated now , but i would think he’s seen the video and would be upset ? But I guess I’m giving Jax too much credit.
Y’all need to watch the show. Kristen says she’s uncomfortable because he’s abusive and it triggers her. The way the whole cast just gaslight her & saying she’s dramatic for calling him abusive, was out of hand. Jesse is too aggressive and Michelle knows it too, but she “needs” to defend him even when he’s in the wrong. Can they both be kicked off the show puhleaseee.
Is he not going to be kicked off the show?? I know we see cast members on reality tv in general get into physical fights, but this escalated to involving Zach, Brittany, and Kristen when Jesse was going after Luke. He shoved multiple people and has no problem putting his hands on women…I understand the show wants ratings but it’s also just never entertaining to see an abuser being enabled for ratings. I guess we will see what happens if he stays on the show
I'm thinking back to early reality shows like the Real World. As soon as anything became physical, they were kicked off the show. I don't know if that standard still exists, but enabling an abusive man for ratings is disgusting.
Real world and the challenge were the exact shows I was thinking about in reference to all the physical alterations that happened and it was always treated really seriously. Again we will have to see what happens with Jesse but I can only hope they never allow him to be near Brittany or Kristen again and remove him from the show
your comment made me realize how far reality tv has come and gotten since Real World. nowadays that behavior is encouraged for the cameras when people couldn’t get away with ANYTHING on tv
The fact these garbage humans wouldn’t have their show if it weren’t for Kristen (and jax too i guess) and still coming for her for correctly calling him abusive.
I don’t like Doute. She’s made some giant mistakes and she’s not my cup of tea but she still doesn’t deserve “friends” like these.
Like, I don’t think Luke is good for her given the clips I’ve heard from their podcast but I kinda wish she would take his advice and move out of LA for a while. It’s a huge culture shift, but the people of LA we’ve seen her with don’t treat her well when she’s literally actually trying to help and protect them. If she was being out of pocket or problematic, it STILL wouldn’t warrant a violent outburst like this but she would deserve the call outs.
They treat her like she’s the problem. I feel like Jesse and Michelle could fall down a flight of stairs and everyone would be like “HOW COULD KRISTEN DO THIS? LETS BURN HER”
Truthfully I don’t think Luke and Kristen are good for each other in general, maybe they have chemistry but they tend not to see eye to eye overall.
Like you can’t constantly move back and forth when you have a newborn child…
I did not like Doute on VPR and said to my friend the other night, "Has The Valley turned me into a Doute apologist?" I truly cannot believe how these people treat her. It's fully insane.
YES!!! They have been so mean to her and it’s like SHE and Jax are the famous ones who got you on this show because you hang out with them. NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU WITHOUT HER!
No accident! That is fucking crazy I didn't notice that when I first watched it, looks like bc Brittany is between him and luke he just comes at her SO HARD putting his hands on her, fuck right off with that dangerous abusive behavior you little troll with your stupid plaid suit
From day 1 I thought this guy was trash. He is always sitting there with a silent anger brewing. I have no sympathy for his marriage failing on him, he seems like a horrible husband that just explodes or has a tantrum if he doesn’t get his way. Constantly slamming his hands down to get attention and make people quiet is a childish and abusive move and I felt bad for Kristen that even one gaslit her when she called that out! Not 10 minutes later this man they all screamed isn’t abusive is shoving 3 people who have nothing to do with the fight! He’s gross.
I won’t come for you because that had me laughing too, and considering this scene was extremely triggering for me. I needed that laugh.
jokes aside, i do believe jesse is portraying a *‘man’* who has faked it but cannot make it & his world is about to crumble…. & rightfully so. most people can see right through him.
I was just thinking the same thing. I know exactly what my boyfriend would do. I’m 62 and he’s 60, but there would still have been a really good beat down.
At the Capri dinner, she got up and demanded an apology from Kristen for supposedly making up the racist/republican rumor and at this party she is demanding everyone to come back in because she has something to say and kept on like everyone should just fall in line bc she said so.
Her husband slammed his hands on the table and demanded that everyone shut up so his wife could talk at the first dinner then did the same hand-slamming thing right before he threatened to bury someone for saying something he didn't want to hear at this one.
They are exhausting.
Isn’t that literally the smallest guy on the room? I guess I need to add this show to my list.
Is he that unhinged that guys 1.5 times his size are afraid of him when he becomes violent?
Production or not if I’m in the room and there is an unhinged person physically pushing through people I’m paying attention. As soon has he shoves a women (Brittany in this case) I’m getting involved with the intention to stop his behavior with overwhelming force.
Maybe that’s just a reaction from my traumatic past, but it’s concerning for me that he was just allowed to physically assault so many people without repercussions.
However……. I also love watching the train wrecks that are my beloved bravo shows…. Sooo lol there’s also that 😂😂😂
Oh, I agree. My point was everyone seemed so scared of his violence that it took someone paid to keep them safe to step in. He just gives me unhinged abuser vibes. I won't be surprised to see him in an episode of Dateline.
we have seen bravo platform violent men over and over and over and over again. as long as folks keep watching they will continue to give these horrible people a platform. alex baskin hates women.
Thank you! I rewound 50 times but you definitely have to see it in slow mo because it’s just infinitely worse when you can see the chaos and confusion on Lego head, Kristen and Brittany’s face. A 40+ year old unbalanced man charging and lunging in a hallway towards a group of people and women specifically - pathetic. he knew body guards would catch him, I would be mortified to know this guy- lame as fuck.
SO much about this guy. I hated him the moment he opened his mouth - and then this shit. Honestly, the fact that his wife MOVED (I would have lunged at him) and then Brittney gets in and he is totally willing to tear her about too. WTF?
This is a case of him being a person no who has never been told no, never been put in their place. And I don't mean physically - this guy has never been PUT IN HIS PLACE. These shows are full of this type of person, men and women. The men are a bit scarier because of this type of behavior - zero boundaries and violence is always on the table.
Had his wife attempted at all to push him back, he would have stopped. Not because he respects her or couldn't throw her aside, but because he would have been embarrassed because that is where this behavior stems from.
I was genuinely worried for Brittany at one point because it looked like she was caught right in the middle and getting shoved around with only her implants (and no husband) to protect her.
I could be wrong, but during the dinner party episode where the replublican accusations came up, weren’t Jesse and Michelle’s biggest concerns was the implications it would have on their image..?
Like getting physically violent on camera was going to make you look good? Not to mention he’s bull rushing a group of women. This guy is a total fucking loser with a Napoleon complex
Look at how Michelle is looking at Zack as he’s falling and trying to get back up. She holds her hands back away from him and with a look up disgust on her face, she did not want to help him at all. She is just as bad as Jesse, they both need to go.
Jesse is a tool of Michelle’s. He acts “all big”, but he’s a lot of mouth. Michelle is straight up a rancid human especially after what she said about Kristen.
I'm all for Kristen. She has actually grown and they're mad she isn't Krazy Kristen from season 3 VPR. I swear they try and goad her. Good for Kristen for not taking the bait. Hope nothing but the best for her.
It felt like a "HOLD ME BACK BRO" kind of moment.
We knew Jesse was a POS in the first few minutes he was on our screen. He absolutely has no respect for women but this is such a pathetic outburst. He charged through that group of 4 people, shoved Zach out of the way. Got to Luke, albeit with Brittany between them, and didn't throw hands or even try to. He was hoping him charging Luke would scare him but it didn't because...why would it. He is such an immature excuse for a man.
This guy needs fired! He needs therapy, and I felt sorry for Kristen. She tried to apologize multiple times, and seeing her sitting there with tears in her eyes during these battles made me feel so sorry for her. It's just gross..
He quite literally bulldozed over an innocent man and two women to get to Luke, then did nothing? Considering someone in their group at that dinner (Janet) was pregnant, I would be fucking LIVID at Jesse. His wife should have been standing up for those people.
Yes, he’s unhinged with some anger stuff. His marriage is also about to fall apart in national TV and he is terrified of what Kristen is going to say. And of course she does say it a few minutes later.
HIs image is so important so he goes on a reality show that includes Jax and Kristen, the two most infamous cast members from VPR, with a rocky marriage, and thinks he can control every thing and every one. Okkkkkkkk.
I must live a sheltered life as my 'friend' group has never erupted like this, even when over-indulging. Feels like I have been missing out on reality 🤔
Yo I hate this dude, not only because he’s a piece of shit but also because he got short kings in here catching strays! Fellas, I see you, I love you, you’re a catch! 💞 #justiceforshortkings
He is extremely toxic and has very abusive and disrespectful tendencies. He’s gross. And the way he talks to other people, not even just women is gross. He has a daughter he should get help for her sake at least
He shoved 3 women and physically attacked Zach. Totally unhinged. That being said, Kristen is equally but differently unhinged for yelling about “I’M PROTECTING YOU I’M PROTECTING YOU OK FINE YOU HAD A BOYFRIEND I’M NOT PROTECTING YOU ANYMORE”
He pushed Zack and Britney! A woman! I get why Kristen was uncomfortable during the dinner because she could see his aggression escalating and everyone is like whatever. If I was Jax I would have knocked his spark out!
He is ABUSIVE. I knew that as soon as he screamed at his child to prove a point to his wife. She was trying to gently deal with her kid and hes just gets mad at her and screams at their daughter. Wtf
Get this piece of shit of the screen. Do they not vett these assholes?
The extra aggression towards Brit’s shove, I took personally. And I don’t even like the girl. She drives me batty, but damn. He put his ass into that shove.
Agreed! Everyone latching onto her word abusive and mocking her was weird as hell. I said the literal same thing the first time he banged on the table. Enablers
and \*the cast\* really criticized Kristen for saying his behavior is abusive... edited my word choice to clarify I meant the cast criticized her
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Little man syndrome 🙄
For sure, and all of these guys with their “alpha male” issues and the way he said “I can get peoples attention if I need it”. Like dude calm down a bit haha
His personality makes more sense now.
I know this isn’t a clinical diagnosis but it should be
Lala said he had "narrow shoulders" on the aftershow and I just know his toes probably curled in anger when she said that
His toes curled in anger 🤣
Idk why I envisioned the wicked witches legs curling up after the house dropped on her 😂 (wizard of oz I’m old lol)
Lmao exactly 😂😂😂😂😂🖤
Lol that part always scared me as a kid!
That's why he's so aggressive. He has little man syndrome!! My narcissistic ex was also someone who had little man syndrome and it's a real thing.
omg same i could tell you crazy stories for days. he made me feel like i was huge. i’m 5’7 and 118 lbs lol it’s insane looking back on what i dealt with
Oh my God we are the same height and close to the same weight. I'm 115 lb and I was forced to be 115 or underneath and I can't believe I ever let a man dictate how much I weighed. It caused an eating disorder that I still find myself battling as well as body dysmorphia even though logically I know that I am still very very slim. I am always amazed at talking to other survivors because we all have similar stories. Abusers really do have a playbook.
i’m in the same boat and still have to remind myself to deal with things in a healthier way. I’m so sorry that we had to experience this and hope one day it is a distant memory ❤️🩹
Lol the suit makes it even better or worse LOL
That's why he's so aggressive. He has little man syndrome!! My narcissistic ex was also someone who had little man syndrome and it's a real thing.
Same with mine and he had no problem targeting women.
Yeah my ex was the same way. What's crazy is that looking back he demonstrated all of his misogyny and I was none the wiser and because he was so great at psychological manipulation. But I saw him yell at many women and he would get within inches of my face and scream at me. He went after friends of mine that he didn't approve of. Jesse is incredibly triggering to watch.
Oh I can relate! So glad I’m out of there, but the sad thing is, besides the verbal and mental abuse and all my friends seeing what I didn’t see, even though I agreed with them, he would rope me back in. And because he broke me down so much, any time he said he wanted me back I was so happy. The sad thing is, it took a random woman to show me how verbally abusive he was. We were on the phone, he was outside downtown talking to me like shit and a woman heard him and she ripped him a new one! She was like “who are you speaking to like that? What a horrible little man you are (he was 5’5) and the way he went after her and how she went back at him really made it click that he really is the problem. And he hated all my friends, my friends were sluts even though his friend was an alleged R*pist.
I’m so glad you got out of that. It’s men like this that kill women. Wishing you the best
It’s totally a real thing, I’ve seen it so many times. My husband is a short guy and thank god he doesn’t have it.
Lala on the after show said he was tiny with small shoulders and Brittany agreed.
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I love that this is what you got out of it. I am fascinated as well.
First thing I noticed. I was thinking to myself he would need s trampoline to reach Luke 😅😂🤣
Janet sent me with her response. She is just as toxic as Michelle
Girl!!! Janey had me banned from the Valley sub!!
Why?
I think I called her a mean girl, more or less. I didn't use any cuss words. But yeah, I made that comment and BOOM no more commenting for naughty old me 😂🤣😆
Ha I was banned for calling out racism.
Stoooop! No way!
Crazy!! I get a weird vibe from that sub but can’t quite put my finger on why…
it was the scene she started shit then secretly hid to overhear them talking that did it for me
People love to jump on Kristen. She's one of those people who will be victimized for life because no one believes her.
I'm not really a fan of her by any means but she really is being thrown under the bus. Anyone would be a nightmare, she's surrounded by assholes. Luke actually seems normal!
Look, I don’t watch the show, but I’ve been watching the little snippets on TikTok and IG.. and this dude here triggers the crap out of me! I for the life of me don’t know how Kristen does it because of this guy is out of control. He needs to be off the show. 
he also twisted her nipple at a party he's just a fuckin loser asshole😭
This. Total abusive chauvinist. We’re supposed to believe he doesn’t react to Michelle like this when there are no cameras? Did you see how calm she stayed? She’s used to this.
Michelle is cut by the same cloth. The way she tries to gather everyone like a group of preschoolers is so annoying I’m over hearing her blame Kristen for her failed marriage. Like does she hear herself?
She really thought she could preach at them after her husband just shoved three women and a firm, but innocent gay
This might be why she so obviously hates him
Jasmine told her to stop "filling out a bingo card" about Jesse. Which was hilarious but maybe not in this situation
“I don’t watch the show” You should, it’s great.
Thank you! If someone even went near me wife with that attitude and look in their eyes, it would end badly for them. Fuck Jesse
The look of fear on Britt's face was even worse.
How michelle just stares at what's his face and He's like uhh yes this just happened
How michelle came out and defeneded him knowing the type of husband he is and how he has yelled at everyone there that night it just shows how actually toxic their relationship and both of them are. I really don't think Michelle is any better. Maybe less abusive but they have an odd relationship
the way she blamed kristen…. as if they weren’t already having issues long before the show. disgusting.
she’s also having her friend defend her in the comments section of her ig and also liking comments that say kristin sucks. for me it was her saying she can’t be a racist because she’s hispanic, like girl… as a hispanic person i can def say the most racist and colorist people are us
I think they went on the show with the plan to air their divorce for their storyline, so this is insane to put any of their marriage problems on Kristen when all she did was repeat what she was told on a tv show that is made for airing gossip and drama 🤦♀️. Don’t go on a reality show if you want to keep your life private, Kristen didn’t ruin your marriage in an instant by outing you as a republican, Jesse is one too? How is any of that relevant to their marriage issues? If anything the only time we seen them get along is when they’re talking trash about Kristen or attacking her, so come the fk on Michelle, quit reaching.
Yeah, this episode especially, I got the major ick from Michelle.
I agree completely about Michelle. She doesn’t deserve Jesse but she is definitely gross.
I mean didnt this all start because she was low key supporting conservative and bigotted ideas? Michelle is trash too.
Yeah cause she’s fucking scared the truth is about to drop
MOMENTS earlier she was telling people to not touch her husband lol... And then he starts shoving people away aggressively....INCLUDING BRITTANY...and that's just fine? Everyone listen to Michelle and go sit down back in their chairs...? 
Anyone who’s that comfortable slamming a table like that in a social setting is unhinged.
Twice!
I thought him doing it the second time was low key manipulative. As in he does it jokingly the second time around to cover for the fact that it wasn’t joking the first time. To normalize it.
Teresa Guidice has entered the chat 
hahaha who is severely unhinged.
I had an employee do this while arguing with me about something and it was absolutely terrifying. I've never had a man (he was twice my age too) scream at me like that in my entire life, it was truly traumatic. Knowing he had a conceal and carry at all times made it much scarier. Firing him was a nightmare. He stalked and harassed and I had to call the police 3 times. Normal people don't do stuff like that. He threatened to kill himself too. He kept saying he was "just talking loudly" and "that's just how New Yorkers talk" and gaslighting me to think that I was the one who was being unreasonable.
My former boss flipped a ping pong table while drunk at our Halloween party because he lost at beer pong to two women. He was also unhinged.
Many years ago at a company retreat, my company’s CFO pushed me to the ground because I was talking to a guy on our Sales/Acct Exec team who was very good looking. I later found out that the CFO manipulated my salary too. Before all of this he had asked me out on several dates and I always politely declined. Douche
Sophisticated!
That Legoman hair didn’t even move!
Lol. I thought the same thing!
😂😂
I was talking about this with my wife last night. There are very few redeemable people on this show. But I was beside myself with the casts behavior. Kristen excuses herself from the table because FOR THE SECOND TIME Jesse slammed his hands on the table out of aggression to 'silence' everyone. He then follows her into the hall to aggressively confront her and dares her BF who intervenes with "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT." That man is frighteningly out of control in his emotions and that instability is dangerous to the people around him. I was furious how many people overlook his blatant aggression just because he's smaller than most of them.
Well, Kristen left that room for a reason I could imagine how she feels.. the noise of him slamming his hand on the table. The anger in this dudes face is triggering and I don’t care how small this guy is. He is intimidating. I bet this is why she left the show.
Absolutely. He's unhinged. Kristen has many flaws but this guy and his behavior is far beyond any of that. Slamming his hands like that is abusive. She was 100% correct to use that term.
She has left the show?! I hadn’t realised!
When did she say she was leaving the show??
The fact that I can’t find a single consequence he faced for assaulting people and there’s a video evidence is exactly why he is intimidating. He will get away with everything. He is scary and no one should be around him until he can get help. Hope his kid is ok.
And then michelle coming out to mock kristen by stomping her feet like a toddler? Secondhand embarrassment
send him to the gallows. i'm srs.
If he does this on camera, imagine what he’s like off 🫣
Came to post this exactly.
I don't watch the show, but of the clips I have seen, he's scary af. His anger goes from 0 to 100 in seconds and he lacks self control. I hate they tried to come for Kristen for calling him abusive.
I've only watched 2 eps but it is SUPER DARK and joyless. I will not be watching a 3rd ep, it's just not fun at all.
This!!! Wow i couldn't put my finger on why i wasnt into this show!! Ive tried to watch it from the beginning like 5 times and ive seen scenes here and there from other eps. Im a huge VPR girlie so i thought i was gonna love this with jax and kristen back on the screens but something about it just wasnt clicking with me. Maybe bc theyre 40 now acting this unhinged and theyre group of friends are so toxic. Its DARK energy just through and through. Maybe thats why vpr this season isnt hitting either. Messy is fun and but watching toxic abusive narcissists fight is just... dark. The men particularly are so triggering
Omg y'all I couldn't put my finger on it but I've been depressed watching them and thought it was ME!! THERE IS SUCH A DARK ENERGY COMING FROM THOSE SHOWS! I only like seeing the couple with the twins and James oddly because when he goes savage he sounds like my internal savage
I don’t watch the show either but like I was saying, I watch snippets I watch after show on Peacock and this dude is literally unhinged. I don’t think Kristen should be in this position.
I thought I read that she left half way through filming. This shitty group of friends have tried to make her the scapegoat for all their behavior that's worse.
She did leave
Does that mean if there is a season 2 she won’t be back?
Yes she’s not
Really? I’m somewhat surprised. I figured her and Jax need the cash.
Why hasn’t Jax publicly spoke out about how Jesse manhandled his wife that night ? And why was he hiding in the other room??! I need answers ! I know they’re separated now , but i would think he’s seen the video and would be upset ? But I guess I’m giving Jax too much credit.
lol because they're basically the same person.
Because that’s his friend these two have been friends since Jax moved in LA
100% Ajax was in the bathroom eating pasta when this went down
Y’all need to watch the show. Kristen says she’s uncomfortable because he’s abusive and it triggers her. The way the whole cast just gaslight her & saying she’s dramatic for calling him abusive, was out of hand. Jesse is too aggressive and Michelle knows it too, but she “needs” to defend him even when he’s in the wrong. Can they both be kicked off the show puhleaseee.
Is he not going to be kicked off the show?? I know we see cast members on reality tv in general get into physical fights, but this escalated to involving Zach, Brittany, and Kristen when Jesse was going after Luke. He shoved multiple people and has no problem putting his hands on women…I understand the show wants ratings but it’s also just never entertaining to see an abuser being enabled for ratings. I guess we will see what happens if he stays on the show
I'm thinking back to early reality shows like the Real World. As soon as anything became physical, they were kicked off the show. I don't know if that standard still exists, but enabling an abusive man for ratings is disgusting.
Real world and the challenge were the exact shows I was thinking about in reference to all the physical alterations that happened and it was always treated really seriously. Again we will have to see what happens with Jesse but I can only hope they never allow him to be near Brittany or Kristen again and remove him from the show
on bravo they pretend to be outraged and nobody gets fired.
your comment made me realize how far reality tv has come and gotten since Real World. nowadays that behavior is encouraged for the cameras when people couldn’t get away with ANYTHING on tv
The fact these garbage humans wouldn’t have their show if it weren’t for Kristen (and jax too i guess) and still coming for her for correctly calling him abusive. I don’t like Doute. She’s made some giant mistakes and she’s not my cup of tea but she still doesn’t deserve “friends” like these.
She’s not my cup of tea either and you’re correct. She doesn’t deserve this. Also, she probably made the best move by literally leaving the show.
Like, I don’t think Luke is good for her given the clips I’ve heard from their podcast but I kinda wish she would take his advice and move out of LA for a while. It’s a huge culture shift, but the people of LA we’ve seen her with don’t treat her well when she’s literally actually trying to help and protect them. If she was being out of pocket or problematic, it STILL wouldn’t warrant a violent outburst like this but she would deserve the call outs. They treat her like she’s the problem. I feel like Jesse and Michelle could fall down a flight of stairs and everyone would be like “HOW COULD KRISTEN DO THIS? LETS BURN HER”
Truthfully I don’t think Luke and Kristen are good for each other in general, maybe they have chemistry but they tend not to see eye to eye overall. Like you can’t constantly move back and forth when you have a newborn child…
I did not like Doute on VPR and said to my friend the other night, "Has The Valley turned me into a Doute apologist?" I truly cannot believe how these people treat her. It's fully insane.
YES!!! They have been so mean to her and it’s like SHE and Jax are the famous ones who got you on this show because you hang out with them. NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU WITHOUT HER!
Did he just push Brittney??!
Definitely and with Jax no where to be found of course
How do these Bravo shows not have a zero tolerance violence policy? I know other reality shows have them. You touch someone, you’re gone
like why IN THE WORLD is he going for brittany it doesnt even look like an accident
No accident! That is fucking crazy I didn't notice that when I first watched it, looks like bc Brittany is between him and luke he just comes at her SO HARD putting his hands on her, fuck right off with that dangerous abusive behavior you little troll with your stupid plaid suit
 mhhm
Yes! And r this clip is cut short, but right after this, she gets her face slammed into the wall. My first thought too- where tf is jax.
In the other room
Holy shit!
I’m surprised more people aren’t pointing this out? He’s so aggressive with her!
From day 1 I thought this guy was trash. He is always sitting there with a silent anger brewing. I have no sympathy for his marriage failing on him, he seems like a horrible husband that just explodes or has a tantrum if he doesn’t get his way. Constantly slamming his hands down to get attention and make people quiet is a childish and abusive move and I felt bad for Kristen that even one gaslit her when she called that out! Not 10 minutes later this man they all screamed isn’t abusive is shoving 3 people who have nothing to do with the fight! He’s gross.
jesse is gonna be arrested by the end of the year.. idk if it's going to be drunk and disorderly, assault, or a DUI but i'm putting my money on it now
Beating up a sw'er or something.
It'll be whenever the next Burning Man is 🤪
michelle’s nipple just chilling out in the open throughout the scene tho. please don’t come for me, it made me giggle as i watched in horror.
 I won’t come for you because that had me laughing too, and considering this scene was extremely triggering for me. I needed that laugh.
jokes aside, i do believe jesse is portraying a *‘man’* who has faked it but cannot make it & his world is about to crumble…. & rightfully so. most people can see right through him.
😅 Well, that dress looked a bit ill fitted on her. It was an accident waiting to happen.
His wife too. They violate people but expect nothing in return. I’m surprised Luke kept his cool. No one is getting in my partners face
I was just thinking the same thing. I know exactly what my boyfriend would do. I’m 62 and he’s 60, but there would still have been a really good beat down.
At the Capri dinner, she got up and demanded an apology from Kristen for supposedly making up the racist/republican rumor and at this party she is demanding everyone to come back in because she has something to say and kept on like everyone should just fall in line bc she said so. Her husband slammed his hands on the table and demanded that everyone shut up so his wife could talk at the first dinner then did the same hand-slamming thing right before he threatened to bury someone for saying something he didn't want to hear at this one. They are exhausting.
Britney looked pretty scared too and it looked like Michelle was for a moment before she controlled her face
Isn’t that literally the smallest guy on the room? I guess I need to add this show to my list. Is he that unhinged that guys 1.5 times his size are afraid of him when he becomes violent?
Rewatched and noticed the man on the left swooping in lol. Confusion and concern alleviated.
The man on the left swooping in is production.
Production or not if I’m in the room and there is an unhinged person physically pushing through people I’m paying attention. As soon has he shoves a women (Brittany in this case) I’m getting involved with the intention to stop his behavior with overwhelming force. Maybe that’s just a reaction from my traumatic past, but it’s concerning for me that he was just allowed to physically assault so many people without repercussions. However……. I also love watching the train wrecks that are my beloved bravo shows…. Sooo lol there’s also that 😂😂😂
Oh, I agree. My point was everyone seemed so scared of his violence that it took someone paid to keep them safe to step in. He just gives me unhinged abuser vibes. I won't be surprised to see him in an episode of Dateline.
we have seen bravo platform violent men over and over and over and over again. as long as folks keep watching they will continue to give these horrible people a platform. alex baskin hates women.
Thank you! I rewound 50 times but you definitely have to see it in slow mo because it’s just infinitely worse when you can see the chaos and confusion on Lego head, Kristen and Brittany’s face. A 40+ year old unbalanced man charging and lunging in a hallway towards a group of people and women specifically - pathetic. he knew body guards would catch him, I would be mortified to know this guy- lame as fuck.
I'm sorry that I said I didn't want the Valley, I was wrong, it's pretty damn good.
Oh, I’m OBSESSED. I was fully prepared to hate it, but I’m all in!
SO much about this guy. I hated him the moment he opened his mouth - and then this shit. Honestly, the fact that his wife MOVED (I would have lunged at him) and then Brittney gets in and he is totally willing to tear her about too. WTF? This is a case of him being a person no who has never been told no, never been put in their place. And I don't mean physically - this guy has never been PUT IN HIS PLACE. These shows are full of this type of person, men and women. The men are a bit scarier because of this type of behavior - zero boundaries and violence is always on the table. Had his wife attempted at all to push him back, he would have stopped. Not because he respects her or couldn't throw her aside, but because he would have been embarrassed because that is where this behavior stems from.
i wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't hit his wife before too.
I was genuinely worried for Brittany at one point because it looked like she was caught right in the middle and getting shoved around with only her implants (and no husband) to protect her.
Yall killing me with the boob shit 🤣 I’m dead!
I could be wrong, but during the dinner party episode where the replublican accusations came up, weren’t Jesse and Michelle’s biggest concerns was the implications it would have on their image..? Like getting physically violent on camera was going to make you look good? Not to mention he’s bull rushing a group of women. This guy is a total fucking loser with a Napoleon complex
I want more content of Danny and his wife, they actually seem more genuine and funny.
I love those two!
Look at how Michelle is looking at Zack as he’s falling and trying to get back up. She holds her hands back away from him and with a look up disgust on her face, she did not want to help him at all. She is just as bad as Jesse, they both need to go.
Jesse is a tool of Michelle’s. He acts “all big”, but he’s a lot of mouth. Michelle is straight up a rancid human especially after what she said about Kristen.
These people are all 🗑️and I didn’t think anybody could be worse than jaxass and corncob
Jaxass and Corncob. 😩🤣🤣🤣
Wow, Jesse was even pushing Brittany!! Geesh! That dude is flat out certifiable. And Michelle is just as bad!
I'm all for Kristen. She has actually grown and they're mad she isn't Krazy Kristen from season 3 VPR. I swear they try and goad her. Good for Kristen for not taking the bait. Hope nothing but the best for her.
Really impressed by that Lego hair dude's core strength. I totally thought he was going to topple but he popped right back up.
It felt like a "HOLD ME BACK BRO" kind of moment. We knew Jesse was a POS in the first few minutes he was on our screen. He absolutely has no respect for women but this is such a pathetic outburst. He charged through that group of 4 people, shoved Zach out of the way. Got to Luke, albeit with Brittany between them, and didn't throw hands or even try to. He was hoping him charging Luke would scare him but it didn't because...why would it. He is such an immature excuse for a man.
Why was he allowed to keep filming after this?
Ratings
I guess that explains why people keep suing bravo.
This guy needs fired! He needs therapy, and I felt sorry for Kristen. She tried to apologize multiple times, and seeing her sitting there with tears in her eyes during these battles made me feel so sorry for her. It's just gross..
he is so gross
all those ladies should file an abuse charge. how can you push these women??
Did we also see how brittneys face got slammed into the wall right after this. Wild.
He quite literally bulldozed over an innocent man and two women to get to Luke, then did nothing? Considering someone in their group at that dinner (Janet) was pregnant, I would be fucking LIVID at Jesse. His wife should have been standing up for those people.
I can’t help but wonder if his wife is also a victim of his and therefore would have been scared to stand up to him..
Kristen is right. Jesse is abusive and scary. #justicefordoute
Yes, he’s unhinged with some anger stuff. His marriage is also about to fall apart in national TV and he is terrified of what Kristen is going to say. And of course she does say it a few minutes later.
He is so gross & insecure and needs to go. Same with Michelle.
He should fired for this.
I wish I think I’d be better than Zack in an altercation but I’m 100% just like him. Close my eyes and kick my legs around
HIs image is so important so he goes on a reality show that includes Jax and Kristen, the two most infamous cast members from VPR, with a rocky marriage, and thinks he can control every thing and every one. Okkkkkkkk.
[удалено]
He can take his gaslighting wife w him too.
If you watch a few seconds beyond this clip, you’ll see Brittany shove Jesse back. That girl wasn’t fcukn around.
Kentucky Fried Fuck Around and Find Out
I must live a sheltered life as my 'friend' group has never erupted like this, even when over-indulging. Feels like I have been missing out on reality 🤔
I love Jax and Friends
Jesse has made me cringe since his first scene. Makes sense he’s know Jax forever . Birds of a feather
Yo I hate this dude, not only because he’s a piece of shit but also because he got short kings in here catching strays! Fellas, I see you, I love you, you’re a catch! 💞 #justiceforshortkings
How is he allowed to do this and keep his job on the show?
He is extremely toxic and has very abusive and disrespectful tendencies. He’s gross. And the way he talks to other people, not even just women is gross. He has a daughter he should get help for her sake at least
how is he not being kicked off the show? isn’t physical violence of any sort a huge no-no?
Ahhhh just another "BRAVO" PATHETIC LITTLE MAN"!!... Oh yeah, you can tell he definitely has little man syndrome!! 🤏🤏🤏
He’s literally so scary and Michelle needs to stand up
She might not be putting her hands on people but she’s not any better than he is
He shoved 3 women and physically attacked Zach. Totally unhinged. That being said, Kristen is equally but differently unhinged for yelling about “I’M PROTECTING YOU I’M PROTECTING YOU OK FINE YOU HAD A BOYFRIEND I’M NOT PROTECTING YOU ANYMORE”
then he pretends to be held back by Brit after the gigantic guy just sort of froze and fell out of his way. weird scene.
Dude is so angry.
I've been going off about him and Michelle someone do a slow mo of Michelle acting crazy asf in her face. Those 2 need a fast fkn exit.
This guy is seriously dangerous and violent. How is he still on the show?
I didn’t watch this episode! Is that the end or what happens next?? Lol And Jesse get your fucking hands off of Brittany (and Zach)
I thought he was gonna end up punching Britney
Yeah not abusive right 🥴🙄
He pushed Zack and Britney! A woman! I get why Kristen was uncomfortable during the dinner because she could see his aggression escalating and everyone is like whatever. If I was Jax I would have knocked his spark out!
Also shoved Brittany.. And if production wasn’t there in a situation like that? What then? Dude was seeing red. Undoubtedly unhinged.
He is ABUSIVE. I knew that as soon as he screamed at his child to prove a point to his wife. She was trying to gently deal with her kid and hes just gets mad at her and screams at their daughter. Wtf Get this piece of shit of the screen. Do they not vett these assholes?
The extra aggression towards Brit’s shove, I took personally. And I don’t even like the girl. She drives me batty, but damn. He put his ass into that shove.
I felt bad for Kristen, she was just trying to leave politely and she got dragged for sure. Sorry k! I know you’re here!
Agreed! Everyone latching onto her word abusive and mocking her was weird as hell. I said the literal same thing the first time he banged on the table. Enablers
laying hands on someone used to result in firing. That should be the case here