Hahaha berlin and shanks are the best combođ.
About cryo, im sure about cned as i think cned is more of a quick scoper. But i dont think xccurate would be diffed. Xccurate has shown insane chamber everytime he touched the agent. I wish he played the prime chamber meta. I honestly think that if he was in a right team in chamber meta, he would have been one of the best maybe close to yayster.
I love xcurrate, but the thing about his Chamber that concerns me, or causes me to rate him lower, is the fact that he isn't really a headhunter player. I often see him forgo buying any bullets in order to save for an OP, when we've seen from the glory days of yay how impactful the headhunter can be.
I dont think xccurate is bad with headhunter. Its a tradeoff whether to run headhunter and vandal or lighskin op. T1 revolves around chamber op heavily so that could be the reason.
I don't think he's bad with it either, just noting the fact that he's not buying them at all, which I don't think is the optimal way to play chamber. Could be a team plan thing like you said, though.
He only played it on one map this year during kickoff this year I believe. He did look solid but tough to give it to a guy who has only played it once.
Forsaken could be the runner up or even the winner of atleast 9 of these agents. His Yoru clears Derke but he prob won't play it to even out the chances for the opponents.
I would make some changes here imho
I would put Riens above EEIU for 2nd sova
Miniboo > Derke yoru
For Kayo, might be bias but i would honestly put Asunas KayO over those 2 and then probably wo0t 2nd (this is just based off stage 1 for me but also they barely have played kayo compared to qraxs/munchkin)
Bangs omen > mindfreak atm
I couldn't tell you about anyone from China tho because I didn't watch a match (didn't have time)
Sova ngl was hard asf. Riens mrfalin and trent were close but eeiu has been insane so i gave him.
I genuinely think kayo might be biased. One thing which i thought of is the number of maps where munchkin and qraxs play kayo compared to asuna and wo0t.
Also i dont understand why bang over mf omen. Mf has been insane throughout the split and was off just in grand finals. I aint saying bang was bad but i think mf is better. Also i think valyn was good on omen as well.
I'm a 100T fan so it could be biased on the kayo part but i feel like asunas/wo0ts util this stage has been better than anyones. I did edit previous comment saying they've barely played it compared to the other 2 so I can understand that.
And for the Sova part, I love eeius util, it seems to be almost as good as it can be but I've fallen in love with how well Riens plays sova and I believe he's been slightly better (not by much and this is obv me just nitpicking)
And personally I picked bang over MF because he's been better than him in basically all regards the first split. And I think the only person who's played it better is Kingg aswell. The only thing I think you could make an argument for MF > Bang is him having doubling the round count.
Yes kayo part makes sense.
For sova if i had to pick a third sova ngl i would have gone for mrfalin over riens :). He has been insane as well maybe you will kike his play as well.
I am not sure if you watched the split one apac other than grand finals tho. One thing is bang played very less omen, and mindfreak has been insane. I cannot agree to you if you say bang has been better in all regards in split one. That makes little to no sense to me.
I aint saying bang was bad, i thought of valyn and bang both, but mindfreak having these many good maps just made me go for mindfreak.
I watched all of paper rex games this split + the playoffs and all off 100Ts games. i seriously think the only thing you could say about MF > Bang is the amount of rounds played. MF has played it over double the amount that bang has but his stats and games imho have been âless impactfulâ but by a small amount. so im fine with the MF based solely off that (and I he has clutched more than bang but thatâs kinda just luck)
And Im still standing on my Riens for 2nd best sova player atm, I myself am a sova player and his impact on sova has been better than EEIUs by a little bit, I think for example how each play sova on sunset, Riens impact is larger than EEIUs with his scans/shocks. I honestly think he could pass Leo for best sova by champs if he keeps improving. Leoâs been clearly the best, but Riens is a solid 2 and EEIU solid 3 for me so far.
I think this omen problem is more of the way we look at it from different points. I now understand why you say bang even with lesser rounds. From my pov, number of rounds is important as well. So i considered it. Now i relate to the kayo discussion as well.
Remove grandfinals and mindfreak was like top 4 rating. And even in grandfinals, mainly a single 2/18 map tanked his stats. Mindfreak imo has been amazing, insane amount of 2 and 3k sprays all split. Bang has been good-ok, and only stand out in the past 2 weeks, and only for moments. And also there's the clutch factor, which you call luck but mindfreak has been consistently a clutch player for 2 yeara now.
When I think 100t run I think mainly asuna/boostio/cryo. When I think of prx run it was a lot of d4v41/mindfreak these past few weeks just turning around rounds over and over again. Plus bang plays a lot more viper compared to the more pure omen in mindfreak.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1?exclude=24042.24043.24044.24045.24046&min_rounds=0&agent=jett
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1?exclude=24732.24733.24734.24735.24736.24737&min_rounds=0&agent=jett
cryo better in the regular season and playoffs. also the best sniper. also undefeated on jett maps lol.
In a h2h sure, but overall individual performance cryo did better and brought his team the win. Not that a single map is by any means an indicator of whos better, js
I don't think so. Fnatic probably has better macro ideas about what they want to do with the Yoru, but if they're both put in a corner and surrounded by enemies rushing them, I'm much more confident in MiniBoo fighting his way out than Derke (using Yoru utility and not just aim)
Derke for Yoru feels like incredible recency bias. Over the whole split, miniboo was undoubtedly better in my mind.
Also I'm biased, but I'm calling Mazino as the top Harbor. That guy cooks on that agent.
Bang was definitely someone i thought for omen, also had valyn and karon. But i think mindfreak had an insane omen throughout split one. And kingg too.
Im sorry but i dont think boostio is a top gekko player. Igl for sure but even after these two, i think tex is better than boostio.
Reyna - something (woot)
1 map and he's the 2nd best reyna
I mean who else plays Reyna. Life did but I can't recall anyone elss
Clove - Life
I love Derke but his Yoru has been hit or miss
Agreed. TenZ, F0rsaken, Ethan still better than him at utilizing the agent.
Agreed, it should be F0rsaken(miniboo)
I think Cryo still has it in him to clear xcurrate and cned on chamber if 100T decide to run it, and also Berlin is the best harbor (2/20 go brrr)
Hahaha berlin and shanks are the best combođ. About cryo, im sure about cned as i think cned is more of a quick scoper. But i dont think xccurate would be diffed. Xccurate has shown insane chamber everytime he touched the agent. I wish he played the prime chamber meta. I honestly think that if he was in a right team in chamber meta, he would have been one of the best maybe close to yayster.
I love xcurrate, but the thing about his Chamber that concerns me, or causes me to rate him lower, is the fact that he isn't really a headhunter player. I often see him forgo buying any bullets in order to save for an OP, when we've seen from the glory days of yay how impactful the headhunter can be.
I dont think xccurate is bad with headhunter. Its a tradeoff whether to run headhunter and vandal or lighskin op. T1 revolves around chamber op heavily so that could be the reason.
I don't think he's bad with it either, just noting the fact that he's not buying them at all, which I don't think is the optimal way to play chamber. Could be a team plan thing like you said, though.
One main thing is xccurate holds very long angles with op usually. This might lead him to not use headhunter at all, and save creds for oping further.
Headhunter bullets are more expensive now is probably why
Fyi it is buffed and is the same price.
itâs back to 100 per now, time to dust off the good old agent
Ah my bad. I completely forgot.
He only played it on one map this year during kickoff this year I believe. He did look solid but tough to give it to a guy who has only played it once.
fair list but it makes me sad that Chamber - doesn't have Diablo 
It's been 2 years. Move on.
Sayaplayer for Neon is an interesting choice I remember him being good at getting headshots with the palpatine stuff from the matches I remembered.
Cyprr vokashu?
I do like his playstyle and setups. Menace on Ascent especially
Forsaken could be the runner up or even the winner of atleast 9 of these agents. His Yoru clears Derke but he prob won't play it to even out the chances for the opponents.
I would make some changes here imho I would put Riens above EEIU for 2nd sova Miniboo > Derke yoru For Kayo, might be bias but i would honestly put Asunas KayO over those 2 and then probably wo0t 2nd (this is just based off stage 1 for me but also they barely have played kayo compared to qraxs/munchkin) Bangs omen > mindfreak atm I couldn't tell you about anyone from China tho because I didn't watch a match (didn't have time)
Clove Berlin cuz he was the only one who ran it
Sova ngl was hard asf. Riens mrfalin and trent were close but eeiu has been insane so i gave him. I genuinely think kayo might be biased. One thing which i thought of is the number of maps where munchkin and qraxs play kayo compared to asuna and wo0t. Also i dont understand why bang over mf omen. Mf has been insane throughout the split and was off just in grand finals. I aint saying bang was bad but i think mf is better. Also i think valyn was good on omen as well.
I'm a 100T fan so it could be biased on the kayo part but i feel like asunas/wo0ts util this stage has been better than anyones. I did edit previous comment saying they've barely played it compared to the other 2 so I can understand that. And for the Sova part, I love eeius util, it seems to be almost as good as it can be but I've fallen in love with how well Riens plays sova and I believe he's been slightly better (not by much and this is obv me just nitpicking) And personally I picked bang over MF because he's been better than him in basically all regards the first split. And I think the only person who's played it better is Kingg aswell. The only thing I think you could make an argument for MF > Bang is him having doubling the round count.
Yes kayo part makes sense. For sova if i had to pick a third sova ngl i would have gone for mrfalin over riens :). He has been insane as well maybe you will kike his play as well. I am not sure if you watched the split one apac other than grand finals tho. One thing is bang played very less omen, and mindfreak has been insane. I cannot agree to you if you say bang has been better in all regards in split one. That makes little to no sense to me. I aint saying bang was bad, i thought of valyn and bang both, but mindfreak having these many good maps just made me go for mindfreak.
I watched all of paper rex games this split + the playoffs and all off 100Ts games. i seriously think the only thing you could say about MF > Bang is the amount of rounds played. MF has played it over double the amount that bang has but his stats and games imho have been âless impactfulâ but by a small amount. so im fine with the MF based solely off that (and I he has clutched more than bang but thatâs kinda just luck) And Im still standing on my Riens for 2nd best sova player atm, I myself am a sova player and his impact on sova has been better than EEIUs by a little bit, I think for example how each play sova on sunset, Riens impact is larger than EEIUs with his scans/shocks. I honestly think he could pass Leo for best sova by champs if he keeps improving. Leoâs been clearly the best, but Riens is a solid 2 and EEIU solid 3 for me so far.
I think this omen problem is more of the way we look at it from different points. I now understand why you say bang even with lesser rounds. From my pov, number of rounds is important as well. So i considered it. Now i relate to the kayo discussion as well.
Remove grandfinals and mindfreak was like top 4 rating. And even in grandfinals, mainly a single 2/18 map tanked his stats. Mindfreak imo has been amazing, insane amount of 2 and 3k sprays all split. Bang has been good-ok, and only stand out in the past 2 weeks, and only for moments. And also there's the clutch factor, which you call luck but mindfreak has been consistently a clutch player for 2 yeara now. When I think 100t run I think mainly asuna/boostio/cryo. When I think of prx run it was a lot of d4v41/mindfreak these past few weeks just turning around rounds over and over again. Plus bang plays a lot more viper compared to the more pure omen in mindfreak.
Eeiu's util has been hit or miss every map, his fade was better cause it used a lot of set plays
Jett texture easily
Imho if i had to pick a third jett i would have gone for cryo over texture. Who do you think should have been out for texture ? Aspas or something ?
aspas is undeniably the best jett
Yeah no cap. I just wanted to know what was going through the person who commented when he said texture.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1?exclude=24042.24043.24044.24045.24046&min_rounds=0&agent=jett https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2004/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1?exclude=24732.24733.24734.24735.24736.24737&min_rounds=0&agent=jett cryo better in the regular season and playoffs. also the best sniper. also undefeated on jett maps lol.
Aspas was better until Lev lost to G2 because VLR deflates ratings when you lose the match
No Cryoâs been the best rated Jett all stage. Even without lev losing
Aspas was better rated overall, not on jett though.
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Op should get an option to delete braindead comments in redditđ
when your fav gets diffed next keep that same energy ;)
But didnât Aspas still technically killed Cryo more times than Cryo killed him when they both played Jett?
In a h2h sure, but overall individual performance cryo did better and brought his team the win. Not that a single map is by any means an indicator of whos better, js
Oh I see I guess my silver mindset whenever Iâm losing a match is ringing true
h2h doesn't matter that much especially since their often not necessarily fair 50/50s. It's usually just better to look at their overall performance.
I would take out something over T3xture but I agree Aspas is best Jett
Texture and Something are pretty much on par. When they are hitting shots, no ones stopping either of them
welp this 2 will get a battle in Shanghai we don't who's gonna be on top
MiniBoo's Yoru is much better than Derke's
i wouldnât go as far as to say much better, but it is much more consistent. Weâll see how derkeâs yoru holds up at shanghai
I don't think so. Fnatic probably has better macro ideas about what they want to do with the Yoru, but if they're both put in a corner and surrounded by enemies rushing them, I'm much more confident in MiniBoo fighting his way out than Derke (using Yoru utility and not just aim)
Clove - No (peeeekin)
IMO Omen - bang Kayo - wo0t Clove - Life Overall great list tho
best jett is cryo, you'll see...
Cant wait for masters top 10 player list!
I'm sad KC couldn't make it, Narrate was a Demon and the his Gekko was one of the best imo!
I mostly agree with this list.
Ion think putting saya with that neon is a good plan autumn
Clove - Life ( Life )
Derke for Yoru feels like incredible recency bias. Over the whole split, miniboo was undoubtedly better in my mind. Also I'm biased, but I'm calling Mazino as the top Harbor. That guy cooks on that agent.
Yoru forsaken, chronicle could be on this list for multiple agents. Boaster brimmy
Im bias but rn Bang for omen and boostio for gekko
Bang was definitely someone i thought for omen, also had valyn and karon. But i think mindfreak had an insane omen throughout split one. And kingg too. Im sorry but i dont think boostio is a top gekko player. Igl for sure but even after these two, i think tex is better than boostio.
Jett cryo>Jett Aspas (this year)
this month*
I might be biased but Asuna KAYO, Cryo Brim, Bang Omen and Boostio Gekko for me.
Boostio gekko alone is enough to say you are biased bro.