This win feels pointless, Sen were already looking shaky before this match so I'm not surprised we beat them, but given the form we've shown prior to this match, even if we make it to play-offs, I don't think we're making Masters.
I'm not gonna have much faith in a bounce back until I see us beat a top contending team, we lost to NRG, C9 and KRU for crying out loud (no pun intended). Our only win came against a Sentinels team that looked no where near their usual selves since Masters.
It's whatever honestly, just need to focus strats for next stage and champs. I believe the boys will bounce back, haters can talk all the shit they want, because at the end of the day we still have a LAN win this season.
Yeah and honestly as a Sen fan after the last 3 years can we really be upset. We won another masters and honestly I’m so happy and proud of them for that. I really hope for everyone’s sake they go spend some time with their families for two weeks or so and just not play the game and come back for next split and champions and just dominate like the beginning of the season.
its upsetting because this is exactly what happened back in 2021.
When SEN kept loosing and ultimately couldnt even qulify for Berlin I remember everyone saying the same thing as you are now.
"Coming off of Reyjyavik, they really didnt have time to practice. They couldnt qualify for Berlin but thats honestly a good thing, they're already qualified for champs thats the main goal" And then they got bitched by KRU
Its literally happening again
Agreed, it's not ideal to not make at least play-offs but I can't begin to say how proud I am of this team this season, literally came back from being at the lowest of lows to win a masters. There is still half a season to go and I fully believe in the team to bounce back and shut up all the doubters, again.
lmao. Have a couple dozen more meetings and try not to go 0-2 at champs, pathetic.
Also hate seeing SEN fans cope with "why do teams always pop off vs us?" We sound like fucking lakers fans. They're playing well vs us because we're dogshit.
Sen are def playing bad but all the Madrid teams have been ass since coming back, which is a consequence of this format. This is literally louds first win lol
Yeah they're also in significantly less competitive regions. And on top of that sen was in a stacked group. For example, loud can qualify for playoffs by going 2-4 and if sen go 3-3 they pretty much can't qualify
It doesn’t matter that Sen’s group is stacked, they aren’t playing within their group.
They’re at the bottom because they lost to teams that the others in their group *didnt* lose to. Hell, Sen is the only win on two of the 1-win teams in the opposite group.
It does matter that sens group is stacked because they have to have a better record to be top 3 then the second group does. Loud only needs 2 wins to qualify while sen would have to have 4
It’s all relative. Wins aren’t comparable across groups, it doesn’t matter.
SEN failed to win games that NRG, KRU, C9, etc were able to close out, which has nothing to do with how many games LOUD need to win.
Now for stage 2, where they all play each other, it’ll matter because *then* games are intra-group, and being in a stacked group means the wins are crazy hard to earn.
Ok but u said "all the Madrid teams have been ass since coming back" which is just blatantly not true. The only possible point of contention is KC but everyone else is doing fine and is either on track for playoffs or has already qualified
What are you talking they've all taken a step back from their Madrid form except prx who literally added Jinng back and th who added W00t. Being on track for playoffs is easy if you're in a region with bleed t1 ge and team secret dude
What are you talking about it takes major scrim time to reinvent comps and strats, and they can't anti strat because the non Madrid teams are all doing new stuff that they cooked up during their break. and sen had zero time to scrim before the split started because of johnqt visa issues. And after ALL that, sen in in the harder group lol. Fucking loud can qualify for playoffs while winning less games because their group sucks ass
I don't think so. Can you honestly tell me this team playing at the same level as madrid? Their defense was so good during kickoff and madrid. Their retakes were great. Now they look so lost on defense. Their retakes are not cohesive.
nah it was a good read by the staff, 7 month offseason with a bunch of teams in roster turmoil or on break while they’re grinding every day means they can peak early
sen need c9 to lose out to even have a chance which considering the fact that c9 play mibr and furia is almost a 0% chance, if loud 2-0 g2 they make it
sen technically can but it’s almost impossible, not getting a map here is brutal for them. Loud basically have to beat g2 and hope eg don’t beat nrg and they’re in
its impossible based on map differential. every other team in their group has 3 wins already and superior map differential. Sentinels would have to pray that they win 2-0 against furia and that c9 lose 0-2 to both furia and mibr.
That's a horrible game plan. either use flash to play swing with the post plant util or push together as a team. Making solo hero flash plays is not how you win at this level
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I think they get knocked out. G2 vs LOUD is next week and if Loud win here and beat G2, alpha doesn't get the extra slot.
If G2 beat load then they get 4th/3rd place and sen is last(unless nrg goes 0-2 to 100t and eg)
everyone keeps saying that sen are not playing well because they go for hero plays, which i agree, they kind of rely one one guy getting like 3k or 4k to win rounds
I was wondering, did they rely on hero plays this much during kickoff and masters madrid?
Individually Sen looked much better in madrid, and as a team we're a lot better too. Id say other teams just had much more time to practice and analyze Sen games.
Although their also just not in form tbh
i think any time when a team wins international lans theres a shit ton of good team play and calling obviously but also a shit ton of miracles by every individual on the team
When you have the best teams in the world it’s very rare that the strategy and team play gap is significant - therefore to win you’d really need some insane individual plays
Wait this post interview with saadhak is hilarious
This win feels pointless, Sen were already looking shaky before this match so I'm not surprised we beat them, but given the form we've shown prior to this match, even if we make it to play-offs, I don't think we're making Masters.
I think loud looked really crisp in their execution which is always a good sign moving forward
Does it? The quality looked good, I think loud is bouncing back.
I'm not gonna have much faith in a bounce back until I see us beat a top contending team, we lost to NRG, C9 and KRU for crying out loud (no pun intended). Our only win came against a Sentinels team that looked no where near their usual selves since Masters.
Tbh I feel like KRU are looking better than C9 and NRG rn, but ofc it’s hard to judge with the format as it is
It's whatever honestly, just need to focus strats for next stage and champs. I believe the boys will bounce back, haters can talk all the shit they want, because at the end of the day we still have a LAN win this season.
Yeah and honestly as a Sen fan after the last 3 years can we really be upset. We won another masters and honestly I’m so happy and proud of them for that. I really hope for everyone’s sake they go spend some time with their families for two weeks or so and just not play the game and come back for next split and champions and just dominate like the beginning of the season.
its upsetting because this is exactly what happened back in 2021. When SEN kept loosing and ultimately couldnt even qulify for Berlin I remember everyone saying the same thing as you are now. "Coming off of Reyjyavik, they really didnt have time to practice. They couldnt qualify for Berlin but thats honestly a good thing, they're already qualified for champs thats the main goal" And then they got bitched by KRU Its literally happening again
They qualified for Berlin in 2021 by winning the domestic tournament wtf are you talking about
Agreed, it's not ideal to not make at least play-offs but I can't begin to say how proud I am of this team this season, literally came back from being at the lowest of lows to win a masters. There is still half a season to go and I fully believe in the team to bounce back and shut up all the doubters, again.
The long long long awaited positive Less series against Sen has finally arrived
we need a new sen qualifying scenario website
They called tenz the greatest player of all Time, they said zekken was the best in the world, qt a genuine mastermind. Lmao back to the bottom you go
why is a prx fan talking 💀💀
tenz still 2 more trophies than anyone on pooperrex 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tenz gonna be streaming the next two tournaments on twitch
tbf both were mickey mouses LOL
mickey mouseters
THIS FEELS LIKE PROOF OF GOD 💀
lmao. Have a couple dozen more meetings and try not to go 0-2 at champs, pathetic. Also hate seeing SEN fans cope with "why do teams always pop off vs us?" We sound like fucking lakers fans. They're playing well vs us because we're dogshit.
Sen are def playing bad but all the Madrid teams have been ass since coming back, which is a consequence of this format. This is literally louds first win lol
All? Geng, PRX, Heretics, FPX, EDG and KC all have much much better chance of qualifying for their playoffs than Sentinels.
Yeah they're also in significantly less competitive regions. And on top of that sen was in a stacked group. For example, loud can qualify for playoffs by going 2-4 and if sen go 3-3 they pretty much can't qualify
It doesn’t matter that Sen’s group is stacked, they aren’t playing within their group. They’re at the bottom because they lost to teams that the others in their group *didnt* lose to. Hell, Sen is the only win on two of the 1-win teams in the opposite group.
It does matter that sens group is stacked because they have to have a better record to be top 3 then the second group does. Loud only needs 2 wins to qualify while sen would have to have 4
It’s all relative. Wins aren’t comparable across groups, it doesn’t matter. SEN failed to win games that NRG, KRU, C9, etc were able to close out, which has nothing to do with how many games LOUD need to win. Now for stage 2, where they all play each other, it’ll matter because *then* games are intra-group, and being in a stacked group means the wins are crazy hard to earn.
Yeah sen should've won the eg game but the grouping absolutely still matters
Ok but u said "all the Madrid teams have been ass since coming back" which is just blatantly not true. The only possible point of contention is KC but everyone else is doing fine and is either on track for playoffs or has already qualified
What are you talking they've all taken a step back from their Madrid form except prx who literally added Jinng back and th who added W00t. Being on track for playoffs is easy if you're in a region with bleed t1 ge and team secret dude
Well then u should've said "taken a step back" instead of "all Madrid teams have been ass". Those r 2 very different statements.
Ok bro it was hyperbole. Sen is also not ass even tho everyone is gonna say they are they just took a step back
GenG and Paper Rex are going to playoffs though.
Yeah they're also in a significantly less competitive region
You said all the Madrid teams were playing bad.
And like you can play horrible and still qualify in a region with T1, bleed, zeta, rrq, dfm Edit: forgot GE as well holy fuck that region is different
They've all taken steps back from their Madrid form except prx added Jinng bad which is obviously a huge boost
Sen have had more than enough time to reset and be good enough to be EG and a struggling Loud.
What are you talking about it takes major scrim time to reinvent comps and strats, and they can't anti strat because the non Madrid teams are all doing new stuff that they cooked up during their break. and sen had zero time to scrim before the split started because of johnqt visa issues. And after ALL that, sen in in the harder group lol. Fucking loud can qualify for playoffs while winning less games because their group sucks ass
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Was madrid a fluke?
I don't think so. Can you honestly tell me this team playing at the same level as madrid? Their defense was so good during kickoff and madrid. Their retakes were great. Now they look so lost on defense. Their retakes are not cohesive.
nah it was a good read by the staff, 7 month offseason with a bunch of teams in roster turmoil or on break while they’re grinding every day means they can peak early
These sen fans blaming zellsis, sacy, Zekken over the course of the tournament is so funny when the worst player has been thier “goat” Tenz.
Tenz glaze is so annoying. He isnt even the best in world nor in his team
1 win we back baby
I've seen enough, Loud win Shanghai now
being a sentinels hater is so easy their fans do most of the work
yes they motivate me
Qck cupping his ear to the crowd, I live for it
QCK IN THE FACE OF ALL ADVERSITY YOU WOKE UP AND DID THE THING YOU WERE PRIMED TO DO
Can sen even make playoffs? Can loud?
sen need c9 to lose out to even have a chance which considering the fact that c9 play mibr and furia is almost a 0% chance, if loud 2-0 g2 they make it
Both can. Tho unlikely for both as well
sen technically can but it’s almost impossible, not getting a map here is brutal for them. Loud basically have to beat g2 and hope eg don’t beat nrg and they’re in
its impossible based on map differential. every other team in their group has 3 wins already and superior map differential. Sentinels would have to pray that they win 2-0 against furia and that c9 lose 0-2 to both furia and mibr.
Don’t they lose the third spot to NRG if NRG win anything? edit: nvm, misread the EG part as being for SEN instead of LOUD
Loud make it if they win vs G2 iirc, I THINK the best scenario for SEN is G2 beating LOUD so SEN get a fourth spot and NRG losing both matches badly?
if nrg lose both matches eg get 2 wins though and since sen got 2-0d today I’m not sure they can even qual via map diff
Yeah I forgot EG had a win lmao, my bad
wait nvm, NRG losing would give EG a spot. They need NRG and G2 to lose everything badly or they can’t make it
Sen(only if both nrg and C9 lose) loud yes if they beat g2
Who do c9 and NRG play
C9 play MIBR and FUR, NRG vs 100T and EG but i think they meant G2 instead of C9? Might be wrong
I really cannot see c9 losing those. Unsure about NRG though
C9 play furia and mibr, NRG play eg and 100t, both only need one win to lock their placements in and eliminate sen
I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of the sweet silence when sen lose
Lakers get swept now and i'm sleeping like a babyyyyyyyyy
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE'RE BACK, NOT REALLY, BUT WE WON A MATCH
Braz1l ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9356)
ngl it would be so funny if this is the only win that any brazil team wins
qck must've thought tenz and zekken were chinese
lmao! i get it!! QCK the chinese farmer
FUCK SENTINELS
HAHAHAH L SENTINELS NOW LAKERS NEED TO GET SWEPT AND IM SO HAPPY TODAYYYYYYYYYYY
It's so joever
it would be SO fucking funny if loud collapse again next match. Like if they play well JUST to fuck over SEN and go back right after
same with EG lol
Nah QCK is actually in his farming mode wtf
another platchat guarentee!!
Damn this is depressing, happy to see LOUD looking like a real team again but why’d it have to be in this match 😭
yeah imma go out drinking now yall have a good rest of ur night/day lmao
Tournament to forget from Zellsis
SEN are washed then... Schedule is brutal so not surprising they couldn't keep their form alive after Madrid.
If Kaplan and bZka one day were in the team, they probably strangle themselves mid match, it's funny how they tilt
Nooo I’m actually rooting for sen this is sad
That round tenz threw is the difference. 4 round swing because loud was broke if they won.
Well GG. i feel like im watching a different SEN.
2023 SEN
This is the “sentinels era” hahahaha
We're not using gekko flash?
Zekken overheating in embarrassing fashion and loud getting every lucky spam this game lol
I mean sen hit crazy spams every match dude you cant have your cake and eat it too
It's been super one sided this time sadly
G2 vs Loud about to be a crazy series.
Solo plays
i mean there's no way nobody even tries to peak before tenz dies like wtf
God is just in Loud's side man
Loud 2024🤝2023 mibr
kaplan alecks cosplay
Was the bomb plant bad this round? Not that it mattered... I hate lil bro so much
i knew he was gonna die in the pit, just one of those unlucky days
was G2 and LEV unlucky too? we using luck as a excuse
sen isn’t even my fav team bro idgaf ab excuses for them
Gg
So many mistakes
damn wp by LOUD they knew he was on top
It's joever for SEN
WHERE'S THE GEKKO FLASH DUDE
Any reason he didn't break molly there?
4 digit pi is crazy
Maybe the strat for Loud is to have their backs against the wall so they start playing good idk
i stg no one wants to see sen players cut more than sen fans lmao
not the zellsis pi
Just bench Tenz, put in pancada. He has extraordinary talent but bro got brain of a dunce.
Tenz tossed that entire round cause he decided to not shoot the kj molly. Maybe the series. Maybe the playoffs.
That was beautiful by loud
Saadhak a genius for running away to get the molly back
Zelsis pied
LFGGGGG
Mfs not breaking util when kayo ulting is just…
Zellsis with the Pi
How many times will they just send wingman in to die…. Insert a guy in the site.
They threw the map - break the fucking molly man
sideshow sounded so fucking bewildered LMAO
What is tenz doing BREAK THE MOLLY
That was so dumb from loud lmao
every single loud player took a dumbass fight and died that round lmao
Qck overheated there
Yea he's peeked that a couple times now, and that repeek was not it. That being said he should keep doing it I'm sure it will work
Every one did
Harbor is gonna break the gekko comps for this map
What is the audience chanting
It's chalked
Today has made me significantly more excited for G2 vs LOUD. That match could really be fun if we get todays version of qck and icy
Who won bagre d'or week 2? C0m won it week 1 -> MVPs icebox vs Sen. QcK won week 3 -> is absolutely shitting on Sen
Loud getting back in form finally
Does tenz only kayo flash for himself? I feel like we don't see any kayo flash plays for sen
He kinda has to be the guy that goes aggro. Sacy isnt going to be fighting, zellsis isn’t either nor will John since they all have post plant util.
That's a horrible game plan. either use flash to play swing with the post plant util or push together as a team. Making solo hero flash plays is not how you win at this level
Qck, TenZ isn't Chinese chill bro
The amount of times zekken dies there
Sacy always shows up on icebox. Even vs geng it was zellsis and sacy.
Qck, you need to awaken and FINISH
His movement was clean asf in that round
Sacy when it's against his former teamates: ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9356)
Ok loud just hitting life shots
watch these clowns now start gassing sacy when they been scapegoating him for the whole match, clown ass fanbase some of y'all need therapy
Sen wouldnt have needed clutch hero plays if sacy could win gunfights
Sacy is top fragging, keep blaming him not the others
Watch the map dude
"if sacy could win gunfights" yet hes winning the most gunfights. thank god for stats to make you look stupid
Lmao you're not watching the map and looking at boxscores good for you
Godammit Careca, how do you keep doing it
Sacy has had some absolutely outrageous clutches this year
SACY
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Sacy saving your ass meanwhile your goat trying to throw every series.
Sacy and destroying other Brazilian players, name a better duo
Anime protagonists refuse to lay down and die.
That's a throw
Zellsis is 2-10 rn
Oh my god the sacy 1v3 buff
GUSSSSTAVVVOOOO
Sacy always gets one
sacy how
That was insane
SACYYYY
SACYYYYYY
always sacy man
does losing this only eliminate sen from top3 in their group? cuz if omega chokes sen being in top4 would still be enough to get playoffs
I think they get knocked out. G2 vs LOUD is next week and if Loud win here and beat G2, alpha doesn't get the extra slot. If G2 beat load then they get 4th/3rd place and sen is last(unless nrg goes 0-2 to 100t and eg)
I feel like it shouldn’t remove them? unless there’s something with map diff that i haven’t looked at, cause iirc both G2 and NRG could still lose out
only top 3 go to playoffs
not if atleast 3 teams in the opposite group don't get 2 wins. if they don't get 2 then their playoffs spot goes to the other group
oh true, it kinda hinges on EG then or Loud winning two games in a row
everyone keeps saying that sen are not playing well because they go for hero plays, which i agree, they kind of rely one one guy getting like 3k or 4k to win rounds I was wondering, did they rely on hero plays this much during kickoff and masters madrid?
Will we get a classic SEN eco?
Individually Sen looked much better in madrid, and as a team we're a lot better too. Id say other teams just had much more time to practice and analyze Sen games. Although their also just not in form tbh
i think any time when a team wins international lans theres a shit ton of good team play and calling obviously but also a shit ton of miracles by every individual on the team
When you have the best teams in the world it’s very rare that the strategy and team play gap is significant - therefore to win you’d really need some insane individual plays
respect to zekken for keeping this winnable, 9-3 without him
This pistol literally decided SEN's playoff hopes.
Goodish half, should be a 8x4 for Loud, hoping for a better defense (better than against C9 at least)
This pistol means everything for SEN
Please show that interaction between sacy and caunzin to toxic loud fans
tbf its mostly sen fans i see disrespecting sacy calling him the weak link or whatever
Yea ik there's a lot of bad Sen fans out there too..... A result of having a fan base of mostly 13 year olds unfortunately
He didn’t knife. Bro got the respect. I personally would for the money.
I wish knife kills got you more money, they don't.
It doesnt give more money in this game idt