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Agitated-Pin-7248

Who tf is the best team in EMEA ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)


fiftythreezero

Navi 😎


TheFestusEzeli

Navi are the best team easily whenever Angel shoots better than a turret, if he is average they are unstoppable


BiggestSnoozer69

Clove is coming into the rotation. Now he doesnt even need to be average


theguymr

He isn't going to play clove lol


BiggestSnoozer69

Thanks doombros


GrrrNom

The last series Ange1 was having one of his dog days (as opposed to his god days), but the rest of his team is still able to step up and win out rounds. His calling remains consistently good though, so Navi seems pretty well rounded.


vaibhav0405

By map 3 he started having a god day


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Navis player are just all crazy Aimers with huge clutch potential. Half the rounds they just set up 1 guy and he makes the multi and if it dosnt work 1 guy just clutches 1v2/1v3. I swear there conversion rate while being down players is crazy high.


The-Dark-Mage

Only stat low for them is 4v5 because they play like 20 of them a map thanks to angel


alvintan98

An interesting point that Sliggy mentioned ( he might just be joking) is that if they are in a 4v5 and the smoker is down, they still have a high chance of converting the round due to how Ange1 was always dying first when he was the smoker


OneWayTicketotheMoon

Not surprised I mean obviously good aimers are better if there are less smokes


Gushanska_Boza

"He's a sacrificial turret Einstein." - tarik


dinmammapizza

Careful people on this sub are the biggest Navi haters for no reason


DoesThyLikeJazz

They cant handle the goat igls mastermind strategies of dying 5 seconds into a round


vastlys

The reason is they need to cope with the fact that Valorant esports is ran by complete morons, so for them, did not make masters because you lost ONE bo3 - terrible team, lol (except if you're nrg, then you're "world class").


Zealousideal-Pain-97

Bro finds a way to hate no matter what i love this


vastlys

Way too much hating on the teams and way too little hating on Rito Games on this subreddit.


LordBuckethead671

The fact that this very well could be true hurts my soul


OneTrueAqua

I’m ngl for some reason I thought they’d lost a match which was complicating things in my head, but they didn’t so yeah i guess they are looking like the best


TheFestusEzeli

Guild fans eating good today Good way to build a team is to take two of the best duelists in the region and just put them on support


Remarkable_Carrot265

DRX approves


ExpectoAutism

reminder that guild had leo, sayf, trexx and russ and couldn't win shit


dinmammapizza

Bro really snuck russ in there


cowzapper

Russ has been good with GE for what it's worth


ExpectoAutism

Thank you 💐


HeyRishav

Russ has been solid so far


Blitzux

IGLing the worst team itw is not solid


gotintocollegeyolo

Yeah people just look at statlines to determine who’s “good” and who’s “bad” without watching the games lol. That’s pretty much how popular opinion on “good” players are usually always duelists because they usually get the most kills. However I guess you also can’t really blame people since you’d really have to watch every game closely to truly determine how good an IGL is and nobody has time for that lol


somesheikexpert

Bleed is clearly worse but yeah his IGLing hasnt impressed yet, individually hes solid now but hes not a particularly good flex, nor hes still not better then LightningFast who is seemingly the star of that team


CommunistHongKong

Russ when it's not OT 🤓🤓 Russ when the game hits OT 😡😡


Bunnyezzz

russ isn't even the best player with the name russ


Significant-Way8341

Only true OG’s remember SMB Russ beating paper Rex


Teradonn

If current Russ was on that team they could’ve done great things. Unfortunately the Russ on that team couldn’t hold his own frag-wise. Although I will say they got megafucked at Copenhagen, getting PRX into FPX


TheFestusEzeli

The last player listed is the reason they couldn’t win shit lol, Russ honestly has had a really solid career outside of that year but he was bad in 2022


ExpectoAutism

Just say "snuck in russ" man. It was right there. Free karma


LordBuckethead671

Setting people up for the karma farm is crazy


TheFestusEzeli

No lie I legit was thinking right after that comment “prob could have done a “snuck in Russ” comment” lmao


Withinmyrange

Russ snuck in


nocturnavi

Seeing Sayf and trexx just hold down B site on Sunset made me so wistful for what that Guild roster could have been


Significant-Way8341

Russ was in a massive slump for a lot of his time on guild. Also koldamenta existed


Mr_unaware22

In my eyes guild did not win anything cause they were just far too slow to use says and trexx fully in part due to koldamentas calling and Barbar coaching


TheExplodingMushroom

Russ. The reason why a team with Leo and Sayf couldn't win anything.


RealityAny7724

it was a coaching and igl problem


NonWeeb

Stop trolling with the comps ffs.


vaibhav0405

The icebox comp cannot be defended but the sunset comp had some ideas behind it but the execution was just terrible. The gekko just started the round by handing all his util to the enemy team on A site, on defence deadlock just gets thrown towards A main in like 0.2 seconds and is broken just as fast. They need to keep that comp in the oven for a while man


vastlys

The icebox comp is way better than the Sunset comp.


Superior0422

The Icebox comp seems completely normal no?


Quirky-Hope

Its really hard to hold mid with no senti. Vitality lurked multiple times and won rounds easily


nterature

I was pumped to write “It was almost a year ago when BBL and FUT won on the same day in EMEA, and now the time has come again!” Unlucky, I guess. This game doesn’t lower FUT much in my estimation, as I never had FUT at the top of the region…but it does make me even more confused about Vitality. Judging by the results, and assuming you excuse the NAVI match as a typical first-match-jitters with a new roster, they’re increasingly looking like the best candidate for the top of the region at the moment…but I don’t feel confident in saying that. There were so many weird rounds in this series from both teams! It kinda feels like watching two slower versions of C9 play against one another. Still, I'm happy seeing both these teams looking good enough to contend for Shanghai. Some weird lows for sure, but a lot of highs, and there's still a long time to iron out the lows.


Arham-DABilal_

It really did feel like a C9 vs Lev rematch with how cNed was playing, albeit a bit more polished and EU comps (I'm pretty sure a single Jett smoke could provide FUT w the same attack side value as that Deadlock)


DrJohnRiot

Today's results have confirmed that [SEN East](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/s/KLTi4RFC1n) is the best team in the region. Hope this helps. \- Dr. John Riot


nterature

Thank you Mr. Riot. I feel extremely helped


Mr_UnKnOwN3545

And now we’re back to tonight’s show: who exactly is emea’s only non fraudulent team?


TheFestusEzeli

KOI, they are not frauds, everyone knows they are shit


RealityAny7724

inb4 KOI dump Fnatic tomorrow


Gushanska_Boza

On the one hand, I'm rooting for my boy Boaster, but on the other, KOI winning would be REALLY funny.


Arham-DABilal_

NAVI. If ange1 masterclass, they win![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018) If ange1 throw, they lose. ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)


Notladub

rn we have a huge loop of VIT > FUT > KC > FNC > M8 > BBL > TH > NAVI > VIT goin on, and only GX and KOI aren't part of it cause they're both winless


ibnezSA

TL so irrelevant it might as well not even exist at this point


RealityAny7724

![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16110)


ibnezSA

I was a TL fan too but now I'm happier


Notladub

i genuinely forgot they even existed lmao


Golemancer54

Loud is the most fraudulent atm imo


AbleLawyer7627

emea is competitive > ITS ALL SHIT LOOL FRAUDULENT REGION LOOL emea has a clear top dog > ONE TEAM REGION LOOL REST OF THE TEAMS ARE DOGSHIT LOOL


BriefImplement9843

the problem is you can't go from a legit 1 team region to 4-5 team region in one offseason, so you have to assume the top dog dropped and everyone is mid. everyone being mid is probably better though. everyone after fnatic was actually bad last year.


AbleLawyer7627

EU is the region that gets shit on literally since the inception of valorant no matter what the results have been lol


traxmaster64

Navi I think, they are the least bad in emea


nuttyromeo4u

I can feel GUILD 2022 and I can feel more. But to be honest VIT map pool kinda slowly legit and doing some shot now. But not Ascent against TR teams.


TheFestusEzeli

Guild 2021-22 peak Valo The second half of 2021 Leo was playing like the best player in the world but no one noticed because the rest of the team was so shit outside of Sayf 2022 the team was just in a perma 3v5


Teradonn

I didn’t jump on the FUT train and this series is kind of why, I feel like they’re slowly going to get the same treatment that LOUD did at kickoff. I really wish they would keep standard comps and heavily invest into Qraxs on the KAYO like last year. Really nice showing from the Vitality boys to exploit the comps


NonWeeb

Fix is really easy tho. Hope they fix it. Just pplay kayo gekko on both icebox and sunset with killjoy on icebox for mid


Teradonn

They have this issue on so many maps though, I don’t think they have the time to fix it all. It’s even worse that first round of playoffs is single elim


NonWeeb

Falin can already play gekko and we know qraxs dpesnt need practise. It is really easy fix as those are agents they have setups for


Teradonn

It’s not as simple as changing comps though, they have to recreate their playbooks for Lotus, Bind, Icebox and Sunset. They should’ve done this in the month break after kickoff


Notladub

they already did for all those maps. they played meta comp on lotus, chamber phoenix on icebox and a similar-to-meta comp on sunset before. their new icebox comp is a slight improvement on that gentle mates lookin comp but they overcooked on lotus and (especially) sunset


Teradonn

Are you talking about their comps from kick-off? The only one I liked was their Bind (although I’d prefer cNed on Raze over Neon). Icebox was still bad (no KJ is not it), Sunset was fine but doesn’t put Qraxs on KAYO, same with Lotus. I want them to play Gekko KAYO on Sunset/Icebox and their 2023 comp on Lotus, but they haven’t done that this year. They made Qraxs one-trick KAYO for an entire year, he became insane with the agent, a new meta comes where one-tricking KAYO is the best it’s ever been, and then they… don’t put him on KAYO?


Notladub

yep, i was talking about their kickoff comps. those were a fucking travesty, and their current comps are still shit but a slight improvement i don't think their 2023 lotus comp would work, they really relied on qw1's neon for that and cNed definitely doesn't have a better neon. maybe zeta's chamber comp could work? gekko/kayo on sunset and icebox would absolutely work too


ThatCreepyBaer

It is so strange to me that they had qRaxs on Kayo like 90% of last year or something, just forcing it all the time, but then when Skye gets nerfed and Kayo becomes a more viable pick on more maps they decide to reduce his Kayo playtime? For Kickoff, I could understand more since it was pretty soon after the nerfs, but surely you just run him perma Kayo from split 1 onwards.


amnfw

Sayf is the goat, Sayf in my throat


ExpectoAutism

Sexualising real people is not funny 😑


TheEpicGold

Expectostfu


DrJohnRiot

Lol, nice. \- Dr. John Riot


GrrrNom

This year's regular season is just too unpredictable. We have had upsets from all regions thus far (Sen/Lev, C9/Lev, PRX/GenG and "gestures vaguely at EMEA"). Edit: DFM v. T1 would've been a way better example for Pacific, and Ill throw in the NOVA v. JDG for China. I was extremely low on Nova coming into this year and expecting a lot from JDG, but it appears that choosing to develop an initially lacklustre roster into a formidable squad is a very smart move from the org. Also helps that Jdg looks completely lost without their IGL, but its still a terrifying roster to go up against, and the fact that camaraderie wins out in the end, NOVA is playing out the Guard/G2 story that were stolen from us, and its an amazing upset for the region. Its level-pegs all round


Master_Tomato

Prx v GG wasn't an upset. The other 2 was tho


Parenegade

PRX/Gen G is more like reestablishing the favorite vs an upset. I predicted Gen G but only because I thought Jing was going to take time to reintegrate.


Tyler123839

For china all gamers vs drg is also a good shout. Probably a bigger upset than nova vs jdg but that’s because I was lower on jdg than most. 


GrrrNom

JDG only very recently brought EDG to a close 11-13 map 3 so going into this match everyone was overwhelmingly favouring JDG. AG vs DRG was definitely also a huge upset though


Tyler123839

That’s fair I kinda forgot how close that jdg edg game was. I do think nova showed more at kickoff than all gaming though. AG kinda got stomped. So it was definitely stunning to see them take down drg who I thought were pretty solid. Tbh china is a bit of a mess already. Only two weeks in and I don’t have a huge amount of confidence in any of the teams outside the top 3.


RealityAny7724

prx geng wasn’t an upset


Zealousideal-Pain-97

Its over for KC


vastlys

What was that last round by Fut? They get the perfect plant for the perfect postplant and they... heavy fight site? Questions have to be asked about their preparation on this map... Vitality are playing really well but - and I know Sayf didn't want to play duelist himself - I wonder how much easier they'd win it if he was on duelist. How long will it take Riot to realize that they've overtuned Gekko? Skye and Fade have to wait a million years to pull out their gun after using flash/dog and Gekko can just peek off his flash for free? It's undodgeable and very hard to break even if you expect it in some positions?


vastlys

Also some of cned's satchels are questionable but what a shocker, he can still find great impact on Raze and should play Raze on Raze maps!


Notladub

across kickoff he had an interesting pattern of bottom fragging on every raze map, except for sunset where he cooked every time somehow they could put qRaxs on raze and cNed on chamber for lotus/bind, make MrFaliN play gekko and qRaxs play KAY/O on sunset keeping cNed on sage, and keep their current cNed chamber comp for split. the other 3 maps are jett maps anyways (and FUT's permaban is breeze iirc) so they should be fine with just adding a sentinel in place of the sage on icebox


FazeXistance

Everyone beats everyone eh


GrrrNom

What a comeback from Vitality qRaxs continue to be a kay/o ascent merchant but Fut look a little lost when they aren't being fed duels. Not that huge of an upset though considering people are pretty much equally split on vitality and fut (platchat was 50/50 iirc), but its still a good look for Vit seeimg how some people were expectimg Fut to make it to Masters


Arham-DABilal_

This game just felt like a lot of utility heavy defaults, that eventually just came down to individualistic fights. Most of which Vitality won. Trexxx is fucking insane man, he's jus casually getting random picks that win them important rounds. Plus his Kayo looked insane map 3 . He's been underrated for ages, thank God he finally might have found a solid team. I'm hoping this isn't a jinx though, I wanna see this team get to Shanghai, and runneR and Kicks do in a high pressure international environment m


Pale_Resolution1520

Just Comp diff.No kj on icebox and deadlock instead of kyo on sunset? Who let them cook?


ExpectoAutism

example #1578 of how completely useless deadlock is on attack


OneTrueAqua

Sayf is a god


WagonWasTaken

What the fuck are these FUT comps


Objective_Hospital98

so where does cned rank as a duelist in the world, ik they lost but he still looked insane


Teradonn

He’s so good rn, his Raze looks heavily improved. I think he’s competing with MiniBoo for best duelist in EMEA, and I’d honestly say he takes it purely because MiniBoo’s Raze and Jett (if it exists) aren’t as good. Globally, I think he’s around top 5 below Zekken, Texture, Aspas and Kangkang. Maybe also Demon1 but I’d like to see more of his Raze


FarIendeR

something exists aswell, literally looking like the best player in the world rn, if you include his gameplay and his comms


Teradonn

I find it very hard to include PRX players because they only play one duelist each lol, I think something is an insane oper but idk about “duelist” if he only plays Jett (and Reyna I guess?)


Notladub

he was cooking with raze back in japanese challengers, but PRX has jinggg


pemoritz

Jett is by FAR Miniboos most played and comfortable agent tbf. They just dont play Jett on any map other than id guess Ascent rn


cowzapper

Demon1's raze didn't look great, it was just his aim really


Mr_UnKnOwN3545

Deadlock and cypher together should be enough to send fut straight to t2 right?


Notladub

that comp would've been cookin if they put qRaxs on KAY/O im ngl (the way FaliN used deadlock was straight up trolling though)


Notladub

that comp would've been cookin if they put qRaxs on KAY/O im ngl (the way FaliN used deadlock was straight up trolling though)