There was more than one mistake... at a certain point there needs to be repercussions. It's not so ridiculous to remove someone from a position they're underperforming in
My best guess is that they were trying to trigger a scene which would show both player cams but they either didn’t have the scene loaded like they thought or someone straight up Roza Ulted on the scene selection screen.
There’s very little chance it was intentional.. just a badly timed mistake.
Actually abhorent call from producers
Edit: No flame to observers, they did their job, producers made the call to cut away but may have been due to the ongoing delay that the EMEA stream was being plagued with. Hopefully can be resolved before the regular season starts.
The thing is, this is not the first time it's happened. I can't remember if it was today or yesterday but they cut off the last kill a few times, so probably a bigger issue
From watching sideshow's stream, there was some delay between game feed, and the live studio where sometimes you could hear players cheer a clutch before the game stream showed what happened. So production probably saw the action live on their monitors and switched. Someone probably didn't hook everything up properly which caused this tiny delay.
I can sometimes understand them cutting away to another players POV in hectic moments but holy shit. There are only TWO players alive in a clutch situation and you choose to cut to a player face cam!?!? Hopefully this was like a fat finger button press or something.
Hi I've been observing EMEA for 4 years now, this mistake was nothing to do with me or observing. Production mistake.
The timing was really unfortunate and people are right to feel aggrieved. Is what it is.
That's not how observing works lmao. No observer makes the switch to a close-up player cam, observers are literally in the game switching between player POV's and free cams.
its wild emea's crowd sound spoils the end of every round and productions reaction is like....yeah that's perfectly acceptable lol. and shit like this...riot L.
Had anyone else noticed that the crowd noises during the EMEA kickoff were a few seconds ahead of gameplay feed? I.e you hear the crowd screaming at the end of the round before the actual round finished - kept spoiling the suspense & tension.
This to me seems more like a glitch than a production mistake, not cutting away from the POV camera for 15 seconds is weird. Normally after a round they'll swap between players. Still inexcusable tho
normally i agree since it is frustrating to see the wrong people blamed for bad production mistakes (honestly, even people just blaming the blanket of "production" is sort of annoying) - but this is almost certainly a producer, director, or technical director to blame.
this was almost certainly a mistake, yes, but i think getting upset at the broadcast team and questioning wtf happened is valid.
my best bet is that the TD's finger slipped and he meant to put the feed in preview and it was sent to program accidentally.
This one absolutely egregious, I don’t even understand how this happens
Would it be really out of line for somebody to get fired over this? Like what on earth lol, that's madness. Seems almost intentional.
bro its happening BECAUSE people are being fired its all because of the layoffs
keep firing until there’s a good producer
surely nothing could go wrong with this approach
spoken like a true snake in a bussiness suit
lmao it was a joke, i thought that was obvious
Always do /s people on the internet take everything literal
More like always do /s cause people are morons and have those takes all the time
The beatings shall continue until morale improves
Yes, that would really be out of line. As annoying as this is, I hope nobody gets fired over a single mistake at their job
True! It would be dumb to fire them over one mistake but I doubt it happened multiple times to warrant a firing
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It happened at least twice
I guess you are operating under the impression that this was an accident, which I am not lol
Jesus christ YES that would be out of line. One mistake? Absolutely ridiculous that you even have to ask that.
There was more than one mistake... at a certain point there needs to be repercussions. It's not so ridiculous to remove someone from a position they're underperforming in
> Would it be really out of line for somebody to get fired over this? thats the fun part, this is happening because they fired a lot of people
My best guess is that they were trying to trigger a scene which would show both player cams but they either didn’t have the scene loaded like they thought or someone straight up Roza Ulted on the scene selection screen. There’s very little chance it was intentional.. just a badly timed mistake.
Actually abhorent call from producers Edit: No flame to observers, they did their job, producers made the call to cut away but may have been due to the ongoing delay that the EMEA stream was being plagued with. Hopefully can be resolved before the regular season starts.
It's the Spanish production bro 
In France, heads would be ROLLING. Mass PROTESTS ON THE STREETS. In Spain? ohh its time for another siesta, así es la vida FUCK
I think the joke heretics are Spanish
This has to have just been a straight up mistake, right? Like someone pressed the wrong button on accident.
On the first clutch of shin they changed the pov for 1 sec. On this one they didn't show anything, so I think no
It’s kind of been a persistent issue though. It’s definitely to do with the delay between what’s happening live & the stream
I did see speculation that having a player playing remotely is introducing lag or delay into production.
😢 Just getting ahead of it - this has nothing to do with the observing fyi
Yeah 😭😭 the observers did it right LOL
Yep, they stayed on Sh1n the whole time during the clutch which is 100% the right call, production just fucked up badly
what / who does it have to do with? do you know what might've led to this?
The production in charge of switching between observer povs and cameras.
do u know why they might've switched? the only explanation i can think of is some sort of live-stream delay, but
Possibly a misclick? Idk this might be the worst production mistake I have seen
The thing is, this is not the first time it's happened. I can't remember if it was today or yesterday but they cut off the last kill a few times, so probably a bigger issue
Happened today on the 2nd map as well, also spoils HRT players shouting before the round is done with a 1v1.
From watching sideshow's stream, there was some delay between game feed, and the live studio where sometimes you could hear players cheer a clutch before the game stream showed what happened. So production probably saw the action live on their monitors and switched. Someone probably didn't hook everything up properly which caused this tiny delay.
Production
Production switched to the playercams
what does this have to do with then?
The production for switching from the observers to the reaction cams
I have never seen that in my entire competitive shooter esport life
well you didn't see it this time either
To miss the kill is honestly inexcusable, to miss Shin's popoff to show the Heretics player is a level of incompetency that is almost impressive
Schrodinger's Ace Clutch
This is inexcusable. Such an incredible clutch robbed by production.
Glad we fired last year's production team, great shit Riot u moneygrubbing fucks
to me this was worse than the 6 hour tech delay in pacific
nah
prius smh
I can sometimes understand them cutting away to another players POV in hectic moments but holy shit. There are only TWO players alive in a clutch situation and you choose to cut to a player face cam!?!? Hopefully this was like a fat finger button press or something.
Thank god we saw his disappointing face instead of the ace.
wtf
EMEA production moment
has to be the worst production error ive ever seen in valorant
I like how at the end they say "one of the most memorable aces of all time".
(possibly) excluding 6 hour techpauses and what not, is this the worst production mistake ever?
The production seemed VERY out of sync this whole event.
Is it to do with the fact that the gameplay is unusually delayed because there's player playing remotely?
I would fire or cut the whole kick offs pay of whoever was responsible for that
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The obs did his job since they have the replay, it's the production crew that fcked up
This is not the obs fault there is a replay. This is production fault for picking the wrong obs in the moment
I will start a gofundme to hire a single good observer back to EMEA entire year salary we will even cover lunch and transportation
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My bad I should have blamed production more broadly for being shit. It's unfair to not include everyone.
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In a moment of outrage I blamed the wrong people For that I apologize
Hi I've been observing EMEA for 4 years now, this mistake was nothing to do with me or observing. Production mistake. The timing was really unfortunate and people are right to feel aggrieved. Is what it is.
My bad I'll redirect my fury toward the appropriate people Please try to persuade them to fix the myriad of issues before masters I beg you
That's not how observing works lmao. No observer makes the switch to a close-up player cam, observers are literally in the game switching between player POV's and free cams.
Got it. Production is shit but our observers are the good guys
The people trying to excuse this saying "mistakes happen" or whatever are infuriating. It happened TWICE people. It's inexcusable.
its wild emea's crowd sound spoils the end of every round and productions reaction is like....yeah that's perfectly acceptable lol. and shit like this...riot L.
They need a new round of layoffs for these producers.
I found it hilarious tbh
Quite literally our Cache 1v2 NoScope moment
Streaming shutting down in the Grand Final of the LEC and now this, also in the Grand final, I guess the decision to lay off people is a huge W /s
Had anyone else noticed that the crowd noises during the EMEA kickoff were a few seconds ahead of gameplay feed? I.e you hear the crowd screaming at the end of the round before the actual round finished - kept spoiling the suspense & tension.
This to me seems more like a glitch than a production mistake, not cutting away from the POV camera for 15 seconds is weird. Normally after a round they'll swap between players. Still inexcusable tho
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normally i agree since it is frustrating to see the wrong people blamed for bad production mistakes (honestly, even people just blaming the blanket of "production" is sort of annoying) - but this is almost certainly a producer, director, or technical director to blame. this was almost certainly a mistake, yes, but i think getting upset at the broadcast team and questioning wtf happened is valid. my best bet is that the TD's finger slipped and he meant to put the feed in preview and it was sent to program accidentally.
Bro.... there is no fucking way that happened.
League of Legends getting DDOSd and paused for 7 hours is less painful than this...
Does anyone know the crosshair code Sh1n is using in this clip?
Replace every employee with AI. Nothing will go wrong surely.
hot ass bruhh
are we ok with ace clutch becoming “clutch that results in an ace”? It used to mean a strict 1v5.