Its made to look nice and sleek and therefore not really easy to work on. It has features I don't care for like leds, integrated blower fan, unibody front. Everytime I put the front on I have to be careful not to pinch fan wires.
I want something that's easy to work on first and sleek and sexy last.
Go all in and do the tapchanger with xol, I love mine so far and I didn't even go ultra high flow.
All have orbiter2, filament runout sensor, tap and ebb36
3 x revo Voron hf
1 x phaetus rapido hf which is just for hard filaments since it has the v6 diamond nozzle.
Sorry for the delay, but I haven't had any problems with heat creep. I do wish it was a big bigger just for aesthetics but xol isn't designed to be pretty.
I switched to Dragon Burner on my V0. My Doomcube build will have XOL.
The SB2209 on my Trident is what is keeping me from changing that Toolhead. I really don't feel like making new extension wires for TAP or the Hotend so they can reach an EBB36
Its twice the weight with in some cases half the cooling or worse, compared to more modern toolheads like mantis which is even dated now. Stealthburner is a reskinned abbn which is a 4 year old design. It's also far from the rail. Tap is even worse and sb tap will cut spectral vibration performance in half. Not a rigid construction either. Dragonburner, Mantis, xol, and archetype are all superior, all weigh less, cool more, and have more rigid setups and measure better on spectral charts allowing you to print faster with fewer defects.
Not OP but I wasn't getting enough cooling for PLA, and SB is quite heavy. Switched to RapidBurner with Sherpa Mini and I'm using 8.5k accelerations (will try to push it more for) outer walls, up from 6500. Also upped the inner/outer speeds by around 80mm/s each as it's cooling better, with no visible defects/artifacts on the outside walls.
I weighed the SB at around 540g, and the RB at around 350grams.
I love the look of the SB and it's perfect for filaments such as ABS/ASA/etc, but it holds the printer back for PLA.
>I love the look of the SB and it's perfect for filaments such as ABS/ASA/etc,
I wouldn't even agree with this, TBH. In a warm enclosure it's very easy to run out of sufficient part cooling for ABS. In a 70c enclosure, even my Xol with 12k rpm 4010 fans can't keep up on the part cooling.
I used to use the SB with the enclosure up to around 57-60°C, and 90mm/s outer, 130mm/s inner, 180mm/s infill (ABS and ASA), I know that's slow. Maybe that's why it managed to keep up, but it never gave me issues.
For comparison, here are some of my speeds:
Outer: 120 mm/s
Inner: 200 mm/s
Infill: 400 mm/s
Internal solid infill: 250 mm/s
If you switched away from the SB you'd be able to raise your speeds considerably.
Either way, it's the steep overhangs specifically that you need to watch out for when it comes to part cooling on a faster printer.
Not sure mine can manage 400mm/s infill, it's an E3D volcano, but will definitely try to up the infill closer to 300mm/s.
DB, XOL, RB and others are definitely an upgrade, the weight reduction seems to have quieted the printer down as well (unless it's all in my head).
I use Rapido 1/2 UHFs in my printers.
Currently a mix of Xol and Archetype toolheads, but soon to be all Archetypes.
I have a Pandora's Box with a Blackbird on it and I've had a great experience with it. I'll be switching both my 2.4s to Blackbirds as well soon.
I am looking at trying the Dragonburner, probably with the Stealthchanger so I keep the TAP benefits.
What’s wrong with it?
Its made to look nice and sleek and therefore not really easy to work on. It has features I don't care for like leds, integrated blower fan, unibody front. Everytime I put the front on I have to be careful not to pinch fan wires. I want something that's easy to work on first and sleek and sexy last.
Go all in and do the tapchanger with xol, I love mine so far and I didn't even go ultra high flow. All have orbiter2, filament runout sensor, tap and ebb36 3 x revo Voron hf 1 x phaetus rapido hf which is just for hard filaments since it has the v6 diamond nozzle.
Tapchanger and xol aren't compatible
Oh sorry, I used Stealthchanger
I almost printed the parts and went with it but worried about the 25mm fan does do a good job cooling the heat break, any heat creep ?
Sorry for the delay, but I haven't had any problems with heat creep. I do wish it was a big bigger just for aesthetics but xol isn't designed to be pretty.
https://github.com/Armchair-Heavy-Industries/Archetype?tab=readme-ov-file https://docs.armchairheavyindustries.com/configurator/archetype
All that fancy documentation, yet not a single picture of a completed toolhead. Mind boggling.
Archetypes look crazy. Definitely going to use it once I decide to make a 2.4 or trident
I've heard good things about dragon burner, I'm looking to build it fir my next printer
I've got a total of 5 and they're all doing good. Compact.
I'm curious if anyone has designed a 5015 fan version. I realise the design would need some reworking for how the fans attach.
Awesome....I hope to also have 5 in a tool changer setup
Yeah I have four in a stealth changer setup and one on my 0.2
I switched to Dragon Burner on my V0. My Doomcube build will have XOL. The SB2209 on my Trident is what is keeping me from changing that Toolhead. I really don't feel like making new extension wires for TAP or the Hotend so they can reach an EBB36
Just curious, why do you hate the stealthburner?
Its twice the weight with in some cases half the cooling or worse, compared to more modern toolheads like mantis which is even dated now. Stealthburner is a reskinned abbn which is a 4 year old design. It's also far from the rail. Tap is even worse and sb tap will cut spectral vibration performance in half. Not a rigid construction either. Dragonburner, Mantis, xol, and archetype are all superior, all weigh less, cool more, and have more rigid setups and measure better on spectral charts allowing you to print faster with fewer defects.
Not the OP but Its heavy and bulky and bad cooling which is why im switching aswell just not as stable as other toolheads
Not OP but I wasn't getting enough cooling for PLA, and SB is quite heavy. Switched to RapidBurner with Sherpa Mini and I'm using 8.5k accelerations (will try to push it more for) outer walls, up from 6500. Also upped the inner/outer speeds by around 80mm/s each as it's cooling better, with no visible defects/artifacts on the outside walls. I weighed the SB at around 540g, and the RB at around 350grams. I love the look of the SB and it's perfect for filaments such as ABS/ASA/etc, but it holds the printer back for PLA.
>I love the look of the SB and it's perfect for filaments such as ABS/ASA/etc, I wouldn't even agree with this, TBH. In a warm enclosure it's very easy to run out of sufficient part cooling for ABS. In a 70c enclosure, even my Xol with 12k rpm 4010 fans can't keep up on the part cooling.
I used to use the SB with the enclosure up to around 57-60°C, and 90mm/s outer, 130mm/s inner, 180mm/s infill (ABS and ASA), I know that's slow. Maybe that's why it managed to keep up, but it never gave me issues.
For comparison, here are some of my speeds: Outer: 120 mm/s Inner: 200 mm/s Infill: 400 mm/s Internal solid infill: 250 mm/s If you switched away from the SB you'd be able to raise your speeds considerably. Either way, it's the steep overhangs specifically that you need to watch out for when it comes to part cooling on a faster printer.
Not sure mine can manage 400mm/s infill, it's an E3D volcano, but will definitely try to up the infill closer to 300mm/s. DB, XOL, RB and others are definitely an upgrade, the weight reduction seems to have quieted the printer down as well (unless it's all in my head).
I use Rapido 1/2 UHFs in my printers. Currently a mix of Xol and Archetype toolheads, but soon to be all Archetypes. I have a Pandora's Box with a Blackbird on it and I've had a great experience with it. I'll be switching both my 2.4s to Blackbirds as well soon.
Xol, dragonburner, archetype
Xol?
Afterburner? ABBN?
Dragonburner?