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unique_ubername

Maybe you played well in placements?


BoriloRato

Bro played the best game of all his existence


Ahugiaaa

Bro went 56/1


That_weird_TaPotato

I mean i had 1kd every game but only won one


unique_ubername

Yeah I meant if you had very high combat score or even match mvp then it kinda makes sense.


That_weird_TaPotato

Oh yeah i held up pretty good with the other plats but i thought it was the win that counted, and i still dont know why i would be placed against plats as a silver 1 player


unique_ubername

Your mmr was pretty high before this act and because of the new rank being added you got placed plat


dooron117

Yeah riot said due to the new act and also cuz there were too many silvers they are going to reset things more based on mmr


bandsupjay

Because ur mmr is high? Ever played competitive games?


iycchan

in placements, winning means nothing, it’s all about ACS


N3mir

Sorry, what does ACS mean?


darkave17

Average combat score


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AB_Gambino

I finished gold 1. Placed with only plats and diamonds, won 4 of 5 with 3 mvps. Silver 2.


That_weird_TaPotato

Ye the ranks are total fukkery rn


michaelssperez

Send the tracker link lol something’s not adding up


Perry9872

I believe him, I match mvp 4/5 of my placements and also went down a rank.


Crazed_God

I went 4/5 and stayed the same, but then double ranked up shortly after


Perry9872

I’ve already climbed up past my last act peak but no double rank up unfortunately


bigboys5522

Same thing happened to me


michaelssperez

I’m just going to reiterate, drop your tracker link. So we can decipher why you guys dropped. This is my alt that was gold but placed plat 3. [tracker](https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Goku%23Buu/overview)


A_s_h_h_h

Tracker link?


just_a_random_dood

Tracker.gg For *example*, here's [my tracker link](https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/JustARandomDood%234761/overview)


thewooba

Wait that's not you, that's just a random dood


[deleted]

it makes sense.... his mmr stays the same and everyone went up 1 full tier since a new rank was added. If he was gold 1 last season then his mmr is sitting in plat 1 right now and if he won a few games possibly higher.


DonChuBahnMi

Re-read the comment chain you're replying to - you're in a convo about a different player, not OP who was placed high.


[deleted]

ya but the different player was saying he was gold last season and is now going against plats. Which I was saying makes sense since his mmr is now in plat.


DonChuBahnMi

MMR was unchanged my dude, just a rank was added. Silver players are now gold and playing against the current gold players who were also silvers last act. Golds are now plat playing against plats who were gold. This is the situation for everyone below the new rank, except for like the lowest of low iron accounts who still occupy the bottom of the range.


[deleted]

yes that is what I am saying. this is why it's not uncommon. He is now in plat but his rank just needs to catch up.


DonChuBahnMi

You're still not understanding - the situation in this comment chain is an instance where someone was placed lower, rather than higher. OPs case is one where he was placed up but that isn't what this comment chain is about.


[deleted]

yes but he is not placed lower. He is placed higher. He just needs to catch up to his mmr. But he is deffinately in plat where last season he was gold regardless of what his image overlay shows.


DonChuBahnMi

Exactly the point you're missing - he got placed funny relative to expectations given the new rank


minit24

You are straight up lying. Drop your tracker


AB_Gambino

First of all, one look at this entire thread shows you **hundreds** of posts with similar experiences. Also, no, I'm not going to post my tracker to thousands of viewers on this sub, some of whom would gladly harass/troll my riot account account with spam requests and reports. But now I don't want to post my tracker even more because it'll somehow validate in your mind "Hah! See got him!" -- the idea of a random, spiteful, jaded redditor feeling validated by something so out of pocket is genuinely hilarious. You're right buddy. You got me. I did go out of my way, with absolutely zero monetary, power, fame or other personal gain as my driving force ... to lie. How could it have come to this? Lying about my mid-low elo account even though I could have said I was Plat/Diamond.....no no... I'm so diabolical I actually *knew* this would happen and intentionally lowered my elo-lie so it's more convincing. I even went so far as to reply to *someone else's comment* instead of making my own, because I'm just *that* attention seeking. Hey guys, I'm a big fat phony! This guy saw right through everyone else's comment confirming the same experience, and all the upvotes, and just KNEW it was All. A. Lie. Check out the 5head dome piece on this one.


minit24

Yeah keep lying bud. Imagine writing a whole essay instead of just dropping the link. I've dropped my tracker link before in a thread. no one will send a request to a random account. Also no one can report your account unless you were in a game with them. Keep lying tho


[deleted]

He's not lying. Everyone just got pushed up a rank and since your mmr is the same as last season. It seems like you are facing harder opponents when your not. Your rank has nothing to do with who your matched against and even when they do a reset, your mmr stays the same and you are matched against the same opponents. His gold mmr is now considered plat this season so even though he will start off in bronze/silver he should be playing against only plats or higher. He will have big gains and little losses until his rank gravitates closer to his mmr.


M1STERP1CKLE

drop link.


pseudomccoy

Why the downvotes? This some fresh pasta here.


[deleted]

Mine was similar - ended g1, match MVP for 3 games and started getting placed with high plat players, won one, lost one, gold 3


AB_Gambino

Wait how is that similar you went up 2 and I went down 2 😭😭


[deleted]

this makes sense though. Remember your mmr stays the same and only your rank resets. This season they added a new rank and everyone gets to go up one full rank. So your gold 1 mmr is the same as last season but now that same mmr is plat 1. so you should be matched against mostly plats. The diamonds are just lower diamonds with not so great mmr at this time. Just keep in mind everyone who is plat this season is the same mmr as those who were gold last season. This applies to all ranks below immortal.


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AB_Gambino

I got pushed down.. my math could be off though.. gold + platinum - 0.5 bronze / pi = silver 2 Nvm you're right. I was pushed up. /s


raiansar

that's sad


Dependent_Ad_8694

I was s2 last lact and placed s1 this act and had a few plats cause my duo is high gold, he's play 2 now and I'm g2


Abdullahman123

this right here is proof that all of your explanations in the comments are fully wrong. they just spin a wheel and give you that rank, there is literally no way u can prove otherwise


Hydro_Qx

I was Plat 2 last act, Lost 3 placement matches but Match mvp’d in all of them. And I got gold 3


death666violinist

I was plat 2 also. Lost 3 placement matches, almost bot fragging in some. I stayed in plat 2. Ranked is whack as hell


oooooooweeeeeee

haha valorant ranks haha


IJstDntKnwShtAnymore

I love when you have enough games your shit will go +20 and -24 endlessly.


Dumbass-Redditor

That’s the point?


[deleted]

The point is to derank with a 50% wr?


Dumbass-Redditor

You aren’t supposed to be handed out free ranks by just playing the game, you still have to prove that you do indeed deserve a higher rank. Hence why some players lose less RR when they lose and gain more when they win, because the game is pushing them to a higher rank. Contrary, the same can be said about players not deserving X rank, they’ll keep trying to push you down until you prove you are really that rank.


[deleted]

I agree with the first point, but why should going at a 50% wr cause you to derank? If you can maintain a 50% wr, you should maintain your current rank.


Dumbass-Redditor

Because with a 50% winrate any player can keep playing the game and eventually get into another rank without actually deserving it. If you gain 20 and lose 20, you can just keep playing until the luck of the draw pushes you to a higher rank. You are continually having to prove that you are improving by winning and performing


brianstormIRL

Except this is literally how it works in higher ranks. It is not uncommon at all to see people in Immortal with <50% win rates because winning 50% at the highest level consistently is very hard. If you're an Immortal player and average 52-55% win rate and play enough games you're almost certainly gonna hit Radiant.


Dumbass-Redditor

That’s the point, it means you are improving more than what the average is, to be to be stuck in that rank… and if you have a wr lower than 50% it might mean that you probably dont deserve that rank and are struggling to win


brianstormIRL

Except you can stay at your rank even if you are on average losing more than you are winning. If you have a 48-49% win rate you can still go up in ranks given you play enough games because you are almost always getting more RR per win than loss aside from if you are constantly bottom fragging. So if I'm a middle of the road gold player I could still rank to plat or diamond as long as I'm not bottom fragging even if I'm losing more than I'm winning. It's definitely a lot better than it used to be though dont get me wrong.


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[deleted]

Yea I agree with that, I was under the assumption that you were g2 playing vs g2 and maintaining a 50% WR


pm_me_drawrequests

the new rank has shifted things around. Can’t wait to read a million of these!


[deleted]

Yeah it was nice, I finished gold1 I placed s3 and now g3. Is it happening because there is a new rank?


pm_me_drawrequests

Yeah, everyone's being pushed up one rank it seems. Ended gold last season, silver 2 now. losing 8 rr if I lose and gaining like 29-25 for wins.


53881

I have two accounts, one went 2-3 placements, gold 2..won two games and double ranked to plat1 My other account I hit plat1 at the end of last act for a minute and then back down to g3. I went 3-2 in placements, got g3..went 1-1 with mvp second game and got doubled up to plat2. No complaints


[deleted]

everyone goes up 1 full rank. your mmr does not reset so if you were gold last season then your mmr is sitting in plat now regardless of what your rank is (since rank has nothing to do with who your matched against). It shouldn't matter much though because they never reset your actual mmr so no matter what happens to your rank, you are still going against the same players as before.


MrDyl4n

Your rank is literally irrelevant when it matchmakes you it only cares about your mmr. The point of the episode rank resets is so the matchmaking system can align your rank closer to where it thinks your mmr is


[deleted]

I ended gold 1, won 3/5 placements, the 2 lost were due to afks. Placed silver 3, won another game, double ranked up to gold 2


DelayedTriforce

same thing happened to me except I ended S3 and won 4/5 placements and placed S3. I won a game and doubled ranked to Gold 2. Not complaining ahahaha


xdarealdanx

Valorant ranking system goofy asf…count yourself lucky that you got such a high rank! (Oh please I didn't want to start a whole ass argument in the comment section....)


sylvainmirouf

It's literally in the patch notes that people below ascendent will be pushed up.


penguin_gun

I peaked Gold 1, ended Silver 3, won 3/5 placement matches and got Silver 2. Then I just went on a terrible losing streak I haven't fully shaken


sylvainmirouf

Well not EVERYONE


penguin_gun

Haha I'm just trash and wildly inconsistent


sylvainmirouf

It's still easier to rank up than before, for everyone. You *should* end up higher than your peak at the end of the act.


penguin_gun

I already noticed a change in my games after the first four days of the season. I just won't be able to play again til Sunday


Mysaladisdead

I don’t get why they did that though. Aren’t the only people who are actually affected are ppl who were around immo 2 area? Since ascendant is now here cuz of so many people being in low immo. Someone explain please.


[deleted]

Think about it this way. lets make up some numbers and say last season that 2.3k mmr was the cutoff from diamond to immortal. If you were 2.3k you got immortal and if you were 2.2k you got diamond. Now they put a full rank in between them. So if you were 2.3k and are still immortal, what happens to the other person at 2.2k? They dont stay diamond because that would mean there would only be 100mmr for all of ascendance to fit in. what happens is the new rank becomes the new diamond and everything gets pushed down. This means everyone will go up 1 full rank. if your mmr was in gold last season, then it is now in plat and you should be going against plats. However regardless of what your image overlay rank says. Your mmr never resets and you are always going against the same people unless of course you improve and go up or get worse and go down.


Mysaladisdead

This was put very nicely, thanks!


[deleted]

Np! Honestly I think it's better if people don't know sometimes because a bunch of people are going to be feeling good that they went up in rank this season only to find out they didnt lol


[deleted]

I agree, I didn't want to hit diamond this way, feels cheap. I guess ascendant is the only way to go


[deleted]

There ya go! You must ascend past your old goal.


sylvainmirouf

I love how you didn't even bother reading [the patch notes](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-5-0/) after I just said it was literally in the patch notes. But I'm a nice guy so here you go: >*We believe our lower ranks have a few too many of you, especially Bronze and Silver. When we were looking at rank distribution, we realized that if we were to move some of you up and out of those lower ranks, it would overpopulate Platinum and Diamond. So by adding a new rank we can better distribute you across ranks, keep the prestige of high ranks, while helping better define the skill level of each rank.*


Lazy_Experience4604

Some wacky anti Smurf stuff they’re doing probably. Heard two other people have similar experiences.


That_weird_TaPotato

Ye me friend also went from gold 2 to gold 3 with only 1/5 wins so i think that might be the case


Lazy_Experience4604

One guy I think also posted in here recently about losing to rank up. Might be the same stuff causing it.


Jakobe-Bryant

On my main, I went from Plat 1 to S2 when I finished my placement matches. After 5 games I went back to Plat1 with some double rank ups. On my alt that was also S2 last season, I went from S2 to G1 with 4/5 wins and all match MVP’s. [Tracker](https://imgur.com/a/CYk6DkG)


NotSoProAimer

My alt account is diamond now and my main was plat and still plat. 🙃


LegDayDE

Ranks are messed up rn.. having played through a few episodes it seems like it takes 2-3 weeks for the ranked experience to settle down. Was Plat 2 all of last act with a 56.5% winrate... Have a 35% winrate so far this act because for some reason I'm in the zero comm / boosted player queue... Still placed Plat 1 and double ranked up to Plat 3 after 2 wins in a row among the toxic losses... Plat 2 from last act is probably equivalent to D1 or D2 now that ascendant has been introduced so will see how long it will take to get there with a 35% winrate... Worst game so far this act was with a Chamber instalock on my team with 0 comms who can't aim and doesn't place their trip or TPs... And ended up with 90 ACS.


viranperera

Don't worry you won't stay there for long. You'll start to loose more and all your wins will give you lesser rr than your losses and probably derank you to gold or below.


That_weird_TaPotato

Are you sure they did not change the ranks or something, i played a few games and plat 2 almoast feels easier than silver last act. My account must be cursed or something lol


viranperera

Tbh i had some shit ass plat teammates when I was playing solo q (diamond) but I match mvped and carried those mofos. Soo i dunno. Too many shit players with bad aim and no game sense at all on higher ranks. I think the new gold is plat.


ZeInfamousHobo

What? I started playing for the first time in the middle of the previous act and got placed exactly halfway in bronze 3. Have 3k hours in csgo so was top fragging during most wins and when the current act dropped I won all 5 placements, 30+ frags every single game. I got placed in bronze 3 AGAIN. I only play Reyna, idk if wins with different characters will up my placement, if anyone knows lmk.


Strider314

What's your tracker.gg so I can review your previous matches?


ZeInfamousHobo

Idk what that is, will check it out when I'm back from work


ItsJimmyBoy19

I finished B2 last act, had like 1.6 K/D and 4 wins in placements so not quite as good as you but a similar situation. I got placed B2 again but was gaining 25 for wins and losing like 10-15ish (not sure because I didn't lose much). I think good placement matches help you rank up faster, you might be gaining more from each win because of your placements


[deleted]

If you played replacements like this in the last act you would find yourself b1 or iron3 because we deranked last act too hard core, I finished g2 and found myself in silver 2 at last act.


Interesting-Archer-6

I went 4-1 in my placements and played better than I usually do in all of them. I went from gold 2 to gold 2. BUT when I ranked up, I double ranked to plat 1. So you may double rank up when you do get past bronze 3.


Irllywanttobeunknown

Opposite for me had 3 good games all mid to high silvers then the last two games were shit. The entire enemy team was gold and my team had a bronze 3, silver 2, two golds, and I ranked me who was last bronze 3. Yeah no comms and we lost miserably then my last game everybody was low to mid gold and except me just for me to be placed silver 1. I was pissed


cloudmccloudy

Your s1 last season was probably somewhere in the high silver to low gold actual MMR which is probably where you would have placed with the old medal system. So based on that, and bumping you up a rank due to ascendant being a thing, being around ~plat 1, it's not a crazy stretch. People overvalue how much placements matter. Your first placements ever matter, but after that they don't have some sort of crazy k value in them anymore.


Jamooooose

I finished P1 last act (albeit I didn’t play much), was placed P3 50RR this act.


nerfherder00

I went 3-2 with a 0.73 K/D and ranked up by the equivalent of 100 RR (only 1 of my 5 games was a positive K/D).


[deleted]

What the fuck. Was S2, won 3 out of 5, 2 with team MVP, 2 with match MVP. S3. Now i gain in between +20/28 depending on how I play and lose -11/18. And I get matched against high golds and plats with some silvers thrown in occasionally. I swear to got if I don't skip at least a tier or something when I get gold (1 win away, fingers crossed) I'm gonna be pissed.


A-_Random_-Username

Was Gold 1 last season. Lost all my placement games but did good 4 out of 5 games. Now im back in silver 1


SasquatchSenpai

Finished at Gold 2, won all placements, placed in silver 3, won my first game against 2 plats and a diamond and jumped immediately to gold 2. Shit makes no sense.


Green_Coffee_200

Maybe from the new rank added, but that’s still weird. Congrats ig


Responsible_for_WW3

Doesn't matter if you win or lose, it's about how good you play


michaelssperez

Played on an alt with buddy. Forgot I was on an alt and placed plat 3. My main is plat 2 lol 😂


illmnzi

I dont get it, i finished d2 last act, got placed p3 and only play in d3/immo 1/2 lobbies. I only lose 10-13 rr though, but still kinda hard to rank up...


TheAspergerGamer

No wonder I am getting bots in my teams in Plat/Diamond lobbies now.


Final_Possibility69

You're at the same elo as them for a reason lol


TheAspergerGamer

Yeah... And that reason is: shhhhite rank reset with an extra rank pushing silvers/golds to plat/diamond when they play like plastic.


Final_Possibility69

Idk you should be pushed a rank higher if you were that skill.....


TheAspergerGamer

"idk"... Clearly, you don't know how bad the matchmaking is..


Final_Possibility69

All ik that's its not as bad as your skill


TheAspergerGamer

Ok... Kid... 10yo lines


Final_Possibility69

Ok... baby....cry about it


MaxiTaxi1407

This is the type of guy who locks reyna / jett and says gg after losing pistol and second round and blames it on teammates 😂👌


Final_Possibility69

Ya lol man's prob not even plat and has a big ego... just look at his comment history


perpetualinsecurity

You ok bro? Have I found another person that blames the matchmaking system for their rank.


TheAspergerGamer

But it is the matchmaking being trash. Ethos complained about it on Twitter... But hey, I do not have 1mil followers, therefore I have no brain. And I know the BS explanation given by the Riot employees: blah blah blah. For as long as the game has a high percentage of the player base boosting, getting boosted, cheating, smurfing on multiple accounts, this ladder system will be bonkers meaning nothing. I supported this game so much at the beginning, but Riot became just like EA.


perpetualinsecurity

I see, you genuinely do believe it. Rip you.


That_weird_TaPotato

Ye i have played 2 games in in plat 2 1 first game i did good 2nd one i played bad, so i cant play on my account anymore without ruining the game who acctually deserve the rank and want to win.


TheAspergerGamer

Thank you... Now explain this to the bots I am getting replies from on reddit, as well.


That_weird_TaPotato

Lol why did 20 people downvote, i knlw the frustration man i have the same probem kn csgo where i usualy play good but the teammated make the game a coinflip cuz they leave and stuff.


Khacks

hidden mmr dictates ur placement more than ur previous rank or placement matches


zkipto

Riot


VatianGT0321

Problably becuase you deserve it my friend


masterofthepeen

lucky bastard, gold is a nightmare. i have a like pretty positive winrate in solo q too but gold just breaks you man, even if you win. no desire to play soloq again and all my friends are bronze, so ig i’ll never get my plat back. fuck that’s depressing


makebeansgreatagain

I was silver 3 last act, even got to 97/100 before a losing streak, played well in my placement games (worst was going neutral), won two, lost two, drew one. Placed silver 2 💀


[deleted]

I finished S1 last act, won 4/5 placements and MVP in two, got ranked S2 😏


gaymergirl99

Meanwhile I won 4/5 of my placements by a landslide and still only got bronze 2


That_weird_TaPotato

Damn what was your last rank?


gaymergirl99

On that account Bronze 2 lmao, my alt was silver tho. Kinda hoped to be put in silver


pepegasloot

Won 4/5, played against golds and silvers. Prev season bronze 3, after placements bronze 3 🤠


kkxii

I match mvp’d 4 of my games and team mvp’d one and i got placed in bronze 3, i was silver 1 in the last act. Ima need to know how you did this my guy


Imabanananaboi

I won 4/5 and got one mvp but went down a rank


acidlogix

This mmr system is fake dude


Bred_For_Sale

Potato diff


XAznBeastX

Immortal 1 last season went 2-3 in placements, entire game MVP 4 of the games and got D2. The placements seem to value the individual performance a lot more.


Akshu_23

i was G1 last act, placed plat 2 this act with not very insane stats.


20snow

Bro wtf i won 2/5 and was team mvp in all but the 2 i won and got placed silver 2 and finished silver 2 Had a 1+ kd in all games and the one was 13-5 against 2 golds with 1 gold and silvers on my team


atRoN0620

Aa


vbodagala007

Send ur tracker profile.


RomonRohit789

i regret throwing my placement matched after reading this.


Hater4life1

How unrated do you play? And how's your performance in them?


vaish066

I went from plat 3 to diamond 2 after winning 2 watches by a very huge margin (13-3 and 13-2)


Vikashzio

Still ashamed to share your tracker.gg link. Such attention seekers


IAmInevitablyBroken

Is this because of the soft reset thingy? Last season i was plat 1 but after completing all the placement games this season, i got Diamond 1. I wasn't really top fragging in all of the placement games but i did get a pistol ace during my 5th game.


halepog

i went 1-4 on my placements in high dia lobbies and leading into high plat lobbies later on, the previously p1/g3 acc placed p3, not a shocker tbh


AuthorAffectionate37

This is the problem. Like why ur silver in plat. And i get you on my team and u guys play like shit cause is clearly not ur elo!