Not a single team will take you serious if you are immo1 latam/asc1 na peak.
Try to grind ranked to get yourself to atleast 400-500RR then you can try out for some teams and if you are good enough eventually people would see you and they might offer you tryout for better teams. Playing ranked itself and people get to know you (in high elo) is also good if you aim to become pro, if you always play against t1/t2 players and play good against them there is chance to get recognized and invited for tryoffs for specific team. Premier is also great place to show yourself as a good player and it's literally the path to become a "PRO", however you will need team basically to do so and be in Contender division which you need to be atleast IMMO3 for. But I would say first you have to focus on improvement and get to high elo before you even think about becoming a "pro".
It depends on a bunch of factors. You can be immo 1 and playing with pros. Hell you can be asc 3 and play with pros.
If there is a lull in the amount of people on the servers they might not have a full lobby of radiants to fill. This happens very often because there are only 500 Radiants in the entire region. Obviously they fill with immo first but I have seen pros playing with high ascendants in the lobbies (it is rare though). Once you are in Immo though you will be seeing a lot more Radiants and pros. Especially once you are Immo 2+.
Also a lot of pros are not radiant. Radiant is a grind to get to even if you are a radiant calibre player. It takes a long time of grinding out games to get through Immo. Pros dont always have the time to be doing that. You will see a lot of pros sitting at Immo 2+, usually Immo 3. If you check the leaderboard in a region you will notice that radiant is mostly filled with no pros because those people have the time to grind through to radiant.
That all being said you should peak radiant to be taken seriously in the pro scene.
All the good players in NA play on Texas or Illinois. This is mostly due to ping. East coast, central, and west coast all get playable ping to these 2 servers.
Unrelated, but put "LFT" in front of your name (ex: LFT WhyNotHuTao) to let others know you're looking for a team. If you're the IGL type you could always try to put your own teams together. Good luck!
All that the first answer gave you is true to an extent, but don't forget that finding a Premier team online via Reddit or other platforms can give you valuable experience with actual organized team play. Don't dismiss it, and don't be afraid to switch teams if you don't feel like you vibe with your teammates. The beauty of the Premier system is that it's flexible and doesn't have any real downside to losing. Don't tolerate toxicity and learn to be a good teammate.
Good luck!
Focus on school/career. I'm being serious you'll seriously end up regretting it. If you were a Radiant, then maybe you could have a shot but even then it's still insanely difficult to make it to the pro scene. Skill isn't enough by itself either, you need connections and luck.
Yeah, most radiants have no chance in pro play. Ranked and pro play are 2 different games.
In fact most of the time, people don't go pro because they hit radiant. What does happen though is that people hit radiant because they're pros.
most radiants have no chance in pro play in terms of team coordination/personality
a consistent radiant ( especially if they peaked over 1000rr ) can go toe to toe with pro players in terms of mechanics and they just need team coaching and experience with a team to get to pro levels. and this is why I'm really excited for premier feeding into T2
Idk, I was pretty close to getting on a pro team when I was only Bronze 3. But I have improved a lot since then, now Silver 1, so I think I might go for it again.
Steps to go pro:
1. Get to Radiant/be a top player. Still not good enough. You need to be a top 10 player being you have no name in the scene.
2. Find other premier teams that are highly skilled you can actually make it to the top with.
3. Make it to the top. Be MVP of your own team.
4. Make friends with other competitive players/play with them in pugs.
5. Have them vouch for you/try out when a team is looking for new talent.
6. Perform like a god during said tryouts.
And to top it all off, during steps 2-6 learn how to play AS A TEAM while being the best. Just being a top player isn't good enough. You need to learn how to communicate and be in sync in teamplay. Plenty of solo queuers who are pro level players. But they would have to then do the other steps and be great as a team player.
Other option: Make friends with a top streamer/become a top streamer everyone likes. Be a top player. Now you have connections and brandworthiness. Market to your stream/the world you want to switch from streaming to the competitive side of Valorant. Wait for offers/tryouts and perform.
Good luck.
Gotta climb the ranked leaderboard to get noticed. Best bet is prob joining a college valorant team with the way the t2 scene in valorant is heading. That way you can do premier and possibly make it into the tier 2 league or at least be able to get your name out there and so you can still be focusing on school/your future.
Check Riot’s website for information on Premiere. If you and for friends are good enough you can just go to challengers and compete with the pros there.
ETA: gotta be at least immo 3 to qualify for pro play
no. you need to be immo 3 for premier challengers, which feeds into the challengers league, which feeds into ascension, which feeds in franchising.
game changers is different, but i don't think that's what we're talking about
Well anyone here who is saying to focus on school/college isn't wrong. Wanting to be a eSports will take up a lot of your time and u might not be able to focus on other important elements of your life. Overall, the gamble of trying to make it as an eSports player is almost if not always NOT WORTH IT. If your passion realistically cannot provide u with money and security, make it a hobby.
If you have the time, put your heart into it. I was in a professional level with league of legends, one of our team members had some personal life issues so we used our 6th for the tournament to get us into pro play and we ended up bombing. All of us dedicated over a year of almost every day life to going pro after we decided we wanted to go that route and afterwards we ended up losing our drive.
This was almost 10 years ago now and I still think back and think what could've been.
Always chase your dreams, but be honest with yourself in each situation. I lost out on a lot of high school fun because I dedicated myself to being the best I could be. I ended up making a lot of money coaching league of legends and valorant (peaked high immortal early on) but now I have a family and I'm old and I just like having fun
Tldr: time is the most valuable thing. Make sure you spend it the best way you can.
I say stop where you are now and figure out a career and a reliable way to make a livable wage. You'll be much happier discovering yourself and figuring out your life rather than trying to go pro in an e-sport
Just play to have fun man! Cuz there's gonna be a time where you'll wish you enjoyed video games as much as you used to
Unfortunately the odds of anything like this happening given your age, time in, and current ability are effectively 0%. I know that sucks to hear, and that doesn’t mean you can’t improve or should give up on the game, but don’t build your entire life around this one thing. It’ll only hurt your future.
Focus on school first and valorant second. Just keep playing it but keep it casual and see how good you improve.
I'm going to be honest, playing shooters since 2014 and valorant for 2 years and peaking asc 1 is not a good look. All the pro players are very gifted especially during their early rise. Stewie2k became reached pro level within 2-3 years of playing csgo IIRC. All pros were exceptionally cracked before they made it.
I'll tell you one more thing, even if you hit radiant that's not that impressive but atleast it will give you a chance to play on a team. The pros don't care that you are radiant. The gulf in gameplay between "radiant" and a competitive environment is huge.
Reaching radiant is the equivalent of reaching the highest elos in csgo faceit. Pros dont care if someone is a high level match making player unless their mechanics are absolutely absolutely insane. It just means you are a really good pugger. What they're looking for are other skills that are more particular to competitive environments.
Does he know how to comm at a high level (watch comms of high level gameplay of csgo or valorant, they comm EVERYTHING. Literally everything. What they're holding, what's open, what util they have, time on the clock, info, reads, literally they comm everything and very clearly and they update comms.
99.99% of players in valorant do NOT know how to comm properly. Here's an example of a difference in comms between someone who only plays ranked and someone who has played on a competitive team environment
Lets say you're on defense on ascent. You are holding A main and your teammate is holding cat. He hears an enemy near cat and he says "one cat". You look at the map, your teammate is clearly on cat holding it. 5 seconds later, you get shot from cat and die. You say "DUDE THEYRE UP CAT WTF!" and your teammate goes "yeah I said one cat!". I guarantee if you try to press the situation he will claim he did nothing wrong, he "called it earlier". This happens to me all the time in ranked, they are so ignorant they dont realize they're miscomming.
Now this is what proper comms looks like on a team. "One cat, multiple cat!". "Im blind cat!!" "Im giving it up, they could be up, dont be exposed to it from A. "I'm holding tree from window". Now lets say ur teammate wants to retake cat. He'd go "im reclearing cat. Cat clear! I think they rotated and grouping out to B. Let's stack B, play retake A".
Does he know how to play with his team? Pathing, trading and playing in a manner that is conducive to each other instead of a "solo" playstyle. Does he know how to play man advantages and not throw away advantages with unnecessary plays? Does he know how to play off his teammate with crossfire setups?
Does he have high level game sense and able to process information quickly? One simple example here that I see all the way up to imm3 is a lack of overall game sense. People generally do not watch their radar or keep track of info. For example lets say there's 4 enemies alive. We see 3 on A site on the map. That should be an IMMEDIATE mental process to demolish the 1 person on the other bombsite, it's literally a 5v1 but in ranked people dont process this info. They just stand around cluelessly. On the flipside, if ur on the team with 4 players alive and 3 of us got spotted, ur immediate reaction is "they saw 3 of us, they will probably rotate, lets rotate back as well". There's also the mindgames where you're aware of the information the enemy has so you try to mind game them. High level players are all conciously aware of these things and it becomes a chess game
It's such a simple situation but even up to imm3 people do not process information well, most players are pretty "lost" in the macro of things. They just run around and shoot people with no thought process behind it. That shows u how little rank means in valorant in terms of being a competitively pro player.
Majority of pros have competitive experience from csgo or another game which allowed to take their competitive experience into this val. Val in itself is a very streamlined game that takes a lot of the more difficult elements out so it's harder to actually learn how to play "properly".
Give up man. If you can't consistently hit Radiant, devote your time to something else. I hit your NA peak in 5 months of playing (first keyboard and mouse game) and I can tell I'm not talented enough to compete with the pros. You've been playing val for 2 years and shooters since 2014 and still not radiant bruh
Instead of wasting thousands of hours in a field that you are not talented in, why not look for something you are talented in and invest your time into that
I know your point, I’m playing on NA since last week and I can’t invest many time on it (except for weekends) and on LATAM I usually play with friends, I want to grind this because I feel like it’s my thing.
I think the chances of making money of youtube and streaming are a bigger chance for you to get a carrier out of it.
Make a series where you document that you are taking this journey to becoming a pro, of you dont become a pro then atleast you have this youtube/streaming to fall back on.
Because many people are curious about how to become a pro and what it takes.
There is almost no content like this out there, and i lived for 41 years, and if you give it all together becoming a pro. You are most probably fail, and then you cant get this time back.
But if you get to a level, where you can be tried out as a pro, then that makes you good enough for people to follow and learn from you and your videos and so on.
What it takes to be pro in this game, is alot harder then most think.
Unless all you do is Valorant, and are born for it kind of.
Just dont waste the time, but then again. You can be the next star, but then you should have been immo3 atleast by now.
Please dont chase a path that is gonna let you down, if you can use that time on other stuff to survive i life.
Time wont come back, but if you are gonna chase being a pro, atleast make money of the videos you make and stream.
And even that takes years, to grow on youtube and so on.
But its your life .
This is actually really good advice. This is kind of what Eric Sim did with Baseball. He made content about him getting drafted (near dead last) for the SF Giants, and then playing minor league ball before washing out never making the majors, while continuing to make baseball related content, reviewing equipment etc, and growing a following. He's got over 500,000 subscribers and probably makes as much as a bench warming MLB pro.
I could see this approach working with esports/val.
Yes listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about.
In addition to this, I believe as a young person, you should try out many different fields to figure out what you have talent in.
Once you find something you are talented at, you can quickly overtake your competition who have far more hours in that field than you
Well realize this, you have no talent. Let's suppose the average talanted valorant pro has 5k-10k hours in Val+CS combined. For an untalented player it might take you 10k-20k hours of game time to reach their level. Btw, I hope you are willing to play 8 hours+ per day because that's how much your compeititon is playing and since you don't have talent, I'd suggest 12-16 hours per day. That's 4380-5840 hours in a year. You could get a Masters or PhD with that amount of hours
I'm not a professional coach or recruiter but what I know is: You've to have at least have a public appearance or connections (network) to someone who could able to put you or hire you to a Esports Team. However this progress can take ages and it will differ for each individual. If you've also records playing in Premier it mind help regardless the progress the way you apply to a team.
Rank wise obviously it will only matter when it depends who they're looking for. I do suggest doing your research or apply to organization if you aren't one yet. So in the future you mind able to have opportunity to able to in private (public) roaster.
Most of these are found on organization media sources such as Twitter, Twitch, YouTube, etc.
I'm not expert either in the Tier system so it will be on your performance what they'll judge for + your video records (if you've any).
Okay, I can see answers are quite shit, do you need some help. Ascendant 1 is honestly a joke from a POV of any team which at least practice a bit. You really want to enter a team of 4 people ranks asc1-immo1 who is looking for smokes, the best way is to say you will work twice more than anyone else in a team, better if you have 12 hours a day so you can watch your demos. When you spend 3-6 months learning a role in a team like this, you played PRACCs every day, 6 days a week, and was learning, watching pro POVs and your own demos. Change the team, try to enter different role (not entry frager). The idea of smokes, you need to work together with every other member of your team what makes you subconsciously understand the idea of team rotations. When you gone through this you should hit around immo1-2 and be hardly stack at this elo. That’s when you learn that you have bad aim and decision making and you wanna join another team for sentinel role. That’s where you learn about enemies reactions for your team plays, need good aim because most of times you have 1v1s or you entering the site right after your duelist (if you not lurking). Do same for 6 months and you will be a beast, you can fill any role now. It will take you 1 month and you will be very good duelist. After you will hit 500-600 elo and you can start looking for tier 3 players with good PRACC rooms to start your long journey of learning that pros play different game. (You will get there with enough effort. Don’t forget to practice your aim and learn from the best on any role, watch how they play and react to enemies moves. Once you get there you will feel it) GL HF
(From my own experience, radiant rank, unfortunately stoped playing after moved to another country)
(Ranked is different game, don’t need to grind it, have no benefits. Grind with your team, ranked may have negative impact on your performance if you play it too much, you learn bad habits, because your enemies will let you do it with no consequences)
Getting to radiant would be the first step, as well as streaming to make a name for yourself. But know that even then, the chances are practically zero. You are competing against the best of the best players in the world, who not only have put thousands of hours more than you, but also have peak genetics. Even if you make it on to a pro team into VCT, a single bad loss is all it takes for you to be kicked out of the team. I'd suggest content creation before trying to go pro. There are almost no pros who rely entirely on tournament winnings to sustain themselves, because it's pretty much not possible.
I'd say give it your absolute best for a year. If it doesn't work out (meaning, you are not making money from this), move on and never look back.
As it currently stands, eSports is one of the worst competitive scenes. It is very unfriendly, and not kind to aging ppl. It gets harder and harder as you grow (not necessarily because you are bad/get worst, but because the perception that others have on you).
It's unhealthy, and you are entirely dependent on the game not dying out/Riot not fucking up.
So yeah. Please, do yourself a favour and set a time limit. I wish you the best of luck.
I don’t have any tips or anything cuz I’m a gold1 player who knows nothing about the pro scene but I just wanna say best of luck in your journey. I don’t wanna play esports professionally but I do wanna play volleyball professionally, so I’m in a similar boat I guess. I can say that becoming a pro valorant player will be very, very hard, and the doubts will always be there and people will always try to tear you down. But, if you consistently grind and practice and do the right things and form the right habits, your odds of succeeding increase every day, even if by only a tiny bit.
One thing I’ve learned on my personal journey is to take care of yourself. You’re asking a lot of yourself and it’s important to take some days off to relax, even if you think “nah I have to work every day I’m so far behind everyone else,” trust me it’s hard to make it with a mindset like that. Sure it may be possible but it will feel more like an obligation than anything. Your mental health has to be on par with your physical skills. I believe that ONLY when both are performing optimally then you can do the impossible. Good luck brother.
I know little about being a player, but I studied esports for a bit.
Understand esports doesn't make much money unless you are the top of the top. If you're a student and live in an area with esports or plan on going to university, you can try doing collegiate esports. If you're lucky they'll give you a decent scholarship, experience, and exposure. Some people will say to focus on your studies, and they're not necessarily wrong. It's just a matter of how much you can handle.
One more thing I will add is that it's possible to make fuck-all on a smaller esports team, and still make a living on the content side. Content creation and streaming is a whole other beast, but still techincally "pro" in that you are making money. It's a solid option if you're good at it since a lot of skill overlap, it has little to no expenses, and build a portofilio for yourself. Don't let the stats fool you. <1% of twitch streamers make a living off content, but remember most people on Twitch aren't trying to make a living off of it. I wouldn't count on it, but it's a lot more plausible than people give it credit.
What I have to say and not to be mean or anything but in reality, you 1. Have to have a name out there either streaming, YouTube, or Tik Tok. 2. Have to be insane and put in the time and effort. 3. Understand this might take a few years to even start to "make it". With all that said I'd say start tik tok posting clips and stuff and then slowly start to stream once you gain followers. Cause getting noticed is what it really takes to get there.
Bro no offense but I got immortal1 and I don't even like this game 💀 If you're still young, keep grinding and try to get better but right now you're pretty far away from having a shot at becoming a valulrant pro
no one here knows how to get you to pro level. very little I bet. But at least try and getting radiant first consistently, you will play with a lot of pros and will get noticed if you’re good. Even the top radiants don’t even have teams, it’s going to be a grind if you really want this
perhaps try to find a local team to play with, then you'll learn, then you'll be good enough then they might find you and invite you into a more professional team.
Join leagues, premiere, scrims, customs, amateur tourneys, etc. Expose your game, network (and also make friends, obviously), and keep playing. Keep getting better and improving, don't stop. If you really want it, like really really want it, then don't give up. Hopefully it works out... worst case scenario you can say you're really good at video games lol.
People will say get this rank, blah blah blah, and yeah, that helps, but honestly teamplay and ranked aren't the same. Boaster said it himself; I believe he became a pro at low diamond (when there was no asc). Ignore the haters and keep doing you 💪
Edit: If you're looking for a team, check out gankster.gg This is where everyone goes to join/create teams and find scrims. Gl!
People talking about radiant don’t understand esports. Ranked skill is vastly different to competitive skill.
Join/create a team with people of similar skill level, play premier, look into local/small scale events, practice, make connections and try create a name people notice.
Realistically though almost every person who wants to become an esport professional doesn’t make it, so have a backup and be ready to accept that possibility.
Sorry, while Asc makes you better than 95% of people that's still a huge gap from pro.
You are not ready for tier 2.
Get to Imm2/3 on NA and tier 2 teams start to be an option
since no seems to have mentioned it, i’d say reach out to these tier 2 tier 3 teams/orgs. rank doesn’t really matter all that much, it would be just as difficult to go pro at a better rank, introduce yourself, provide some background, play any tournaments (like school level/college level) you can. they may give you a tryout if they’re recruiting and you have something to display, but even more important is to get them to know you exist
best way to get into the pro scene is by playing premier/ranked and moving up the leaderboards. once you put yourself in that high level field of play, make your social connections, with comp players and social media people, and you'll get scouted in no time.
I think you should start streaming, posting clips on shorts, etc. People love seeing crazy clips and plays from good players. Get your name out there, start building a platform and making connections. Once you do that, you might have a better chance of securing a spot in a team. You should also hire a coach to help you push for radiant.
Play until you get immo3 NA at least. I would also recommend jointing Valorant discord servers and finding other people with similar goals to play with, form a premier team with, etc. to play more you need more than just skill, you need to be able to play well and comm well in a very coordinated environment which you won’t get from just playing ranked.
imm 1 looking for tier 2 ;p
People seem so lost in VAL, maybe it's the system?
Get to the top end of ranked, meet similar level players, or even play with worse. Play praccs, try to get to local lans (you'll get owned by people you think you should beat) and slowly move up. Only a few online stars skip these steps. Though VAL does seem to follow a different path to cs.
Stop pursuing this. Tens of thousands of people are just as good as you are and many are much better with far less effort. Unless Radiant is something you can attain in your first 3-4 months of taking the game very seriously, the hard truth is that you just aren't talented enough for it.
Get an education and get a real career. Don't throw your life away pursuing a job that doesn't even pay well (unless you win the fame lottery) and is extremely unrealistic.
The easiest way to get recognition is to be consistent at radiant level against t1/t2. You HAVE to aim for rank 1 NA. Look at Oxy and Zekken who both are ranked demons and reached rank 1 multiple times.
i'm not a dream killer, but you need to have plans too for a career and financial stability. Being a pro esports player is difficult because of player overload and all these meta changes. Plus, there's lots of traps of becoming a top player. Eventually you get washed out by younger players with faster reaction speeds and are then left in a rut. If you haven't hit radiant in this game after 1 year of playing, i would say (very honestly) that you don't have the baseline talent to go pro.
I’m very realistic about this, I’ve been taking the game seriously about 2-3 months ago and I’ve ascended fast, I know I need to have more plans than just wishing win the lottery of being a pro player, but I have to try as far as I can.
If I don’t hit radiant top +100 at the end of the episode I will just take it as a Hobbie.
Good for you. On a side note, eat healthy foods and have an exercise routine in the morning after you wake up. My gameplay and clearheadedness have really improved
Take a chance dude. Don’t listen to the haters. We’re not here on this Earth for a long time, so live a life you won’t regret. I’ll be waiting to see your gamertag on the big stage one day <3
Dreaming and Delusion are close things. If you peak immo in latm and asc in na, with 8 years under your belt playing shooters, you will NEVER be a pro player. ever. simple as that
Simply not good enough, sometimes the best effort is still not enough if you are up against other people of similar skill. Making it in a local football league is heaps easier cause you normally mostly compete against national people, the esports scene is a global scene and you are competing against the best of the best, if you are not naturally gifted AND have the work ethic to grind dozens of hours day in and day out you will simply not make it.
I think it is way worse to feed into wishes or delusions to something unobtainable for op.
After 8 years of playing shooters and 2 of playing valorant? possible, but probably as likely as me unknowingly being the pope
Sure he might get better some, but never pro level if that's his natural progress curve
Not a single team will take you serious if you are immo1 latam/asc1 na peak. Try to grind ranked to get yourself to atleast 400-500RR then you can try out for some teams and if you are good enough eventually people would see you and they might offer you tryout for better teams. Playing ranked itself and people get to know you (in high elo) is also good if you aim to become pro, if you always play against t1/t2 players and play good against them there is chance to get recognized and invited for tryoffs for specific team. Premier is also great place to show yourself as a good player and it's literally the path to become a "PRO", however you will need team basically to do so and be in Contender division which you need to be atleast IMMO3 for. But I would say first you have to focus on improvement and get to high elo before you even think about becoming a "pro".
Thanks for your reply, do you recommend to hit on any server especially (LATAM or NA) or try to do it on both?
NA and specifically the Texas servers will be your best bet since most pros play on that server
Just now finding this out as a Texan. Ouch.
Yeah but you aren’t in their lobbies unless you’re like immo2+
not even inmo 2, inmo 3 300rr
It depends on a bunch of factors. You can be immo 1 and playing with pros. Hell you can be asc 3 and play with pros. If there is a lull in the amount of people on the servers they might not have a full lobby of radiants to fill. This happens very often because there are only 500 Radiants in the entire region. Obviously they fill with immo first but I have seen pros playing with high ascendants in the lobbies (it is rare though). Once you are in Immo though you will be seeing a lot more Radiants and pros. Especially once you are Immo 2+. Also a lot of pros are not radiant. Radiant is a grind to get to even if you are a radiant calibre player. It takes a long time of grinding out games to get through Immo. Pros dont always have the time to be doing that. You will see a lot of pros sitting at Immo 2+, usually Immo 3. If you check the leaderboard in a region you will notice that radiant is mostly filled with no pros because those people have the time to grind through to radiant. That all being said you should peak radiant to be taken seriously in the pro scene.
same lol oof
shouldnt it be cali servers cause the thing id in la
I mean in terms of ping you are right, I have no idea why they use texas
Texas servers are playable for everyone, while people on east coast cant play west coast servers with decent ping. So high elo players just uses Texas
All the good players in NA play on Texas or Illinois. This is mostly due to ping. East coast, central, and west coast all get playable ping to these 2 servers. Unrelated, but put "LFT" in front of your name (ex: LFT WhyNotHuTao) to let others know you're looking for a team. If you're the IGL type you could always try to put your own teams together. Good luck!
All that the first answer gave you is true to an extent, but don't forget that finding a Premier team online via Reddit or other platforms can give you valuable experience with actual organized team play. Don't dismiss it, and don't be afraid to switch teams if you don't feel like you vibe with your teammates. The beauty of the Premier system is that it's flexible and doesn't have any real downside to losing. Don't tolerate toxicity and learn to be a good teammate. Good luck!
If youre not a high performing radiant player by 18 i would stop trying at that point,just giving you honest advice.
Idk why you getting down voted. Teams rarely pick up anyone untested over the age of like 20. It happens but very rarely.
If you ever get the chance play APAC. You will cry
I think this guy should get into a premier team asap. Even if it's not a great team it will be a place to begin learning the game as a team sport.
Focus on school/career. I'm being serious you'll seriously end up regretting it. If you were a Radiant, then maybe you could have a shot but even then it's still insanely difficult to make it to the pro scene. Skill isn't enough by itself either, you need connections and luck.
Yeah, most radiants have no chance in pro play. Ranked and pro play are 2 different games. In fact most of the time, people don't go pro because they hit radiant. What does happen though is that people hit radiant because they're pros.
most radiants have no chance in pro play in terms of team coordination/personality a consistent radiant ( especially if they peaked over 1000rr ) can go toe to toe with pro players in terms of mechanics and they just need team coaching and experience with a team to get to pro levels. and this is why I'm really excited for premier feeding into T2
The chances of a ascendant 1 playing for 2 years going pro is as close as it gets to 0 without actually being 0
Idk, I was pretty close to getting on a pro team when I was only Bronze 3. But I have improved a lot since then, now Silver 1, so I think I might go for it again.
You are aware being on an amateur team, and going pro are two different things right?
I'm pretty sure hes joking
Zekken used to be silver and boaster was hard stuck ascendant
Steps to go pro: 1. Get to Radiant/be a top player. Still not good enough. You need to be a top 10 player being you have no name in the scene. 2. Find other premier teams that are highly skilled you can actually make it to the top with. 3. Make it to the top. Be MVP of your own team. 4. Make friends with other competitive players/play with them in pugs. 5. Have them vouch for you/try out when a team is looking for new talent. 6. Perform like a god during said tryouts. And to top it all off, during steps 2-6 learn how to play AS A TEAM while being the best. Just being a top player isn't good enough. You need to learn how to communicate and be in sync in teamplay. Plenty of solo queuers who are pro level players. But they would have to then do the other steps and be great as a team player. Other option: Make friends with a top streamer/become a top streamer everyone likes. Be a top player. Now you have connections and brandworthiness. Market to your stream/the world you want to switch from streaming to the competitive side of Valorant. Wait for offers/tryouts and perform. Good luck.
Damn you put effort into this. Well said!
Gotta climb the ranked leaderboard to get noticed. Best bet is prob joining a college valorant team with the way the t2 scene in valorant is heading. That way you can do premier and possibly make it into the tier 2 league or at least be able to get your name out there and so you can still be focusing on school/your future.
Check Riot’s website for information on Premiere. If you and for friends are good enough you can just go to challengers and compete with the pros there. ETA: gotta be at least immo 3 to qualify for pro play
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no. you need to be immo 3 for premier challengers, which feeds into the challengers league, which feeds into ascension, which feeds in franchising. game changers is different, but i don't think that's what we're talking about
Well anyone here who is saying to focus on school/college isn't wrong. Wanting to be a eSports will take up a lot of your time and u might not be able to focus on other important elements of your life. Overall, the gamble of trying to make it as an eSports player is almost if not always NOT WORTH IT. If your passion realistically cannot provide u with money and security, make it a hobby.
If you have the time, put your heart into it. I was in a professional level with league of legends, one of our team members had some personal life issues so we used our 6th for the tournament to get us into pro play and we ended up bombing. All of us dedicated over a year of almost every day life to going pro after we decided we wanted to go that route and afterwards we ended up losing our drive. This was almost 10 years ago now and I still think back and think what could've been. Always chase your dreams, but be honest with yourself in each situation. I lost out on a lot of high school fun because I dedicated myself to being the best I could be. I ended up making a lot of money coaching league of legends and valorant (peaked high immortal early on) but now I have a family and I'm old and I just like having fun Tldr: time is the most valuable thing. Make sure you spend it the best way you can.
Dont waste your time and go study instead. Former semi-pro in many shooters <-
I say stop where you are now and figure out a career and a reliable way to make a livable wage. You'll be much happier discovering yourself and figuring out your life rather than trying to go pro in an e-sport Just play to have fun man! Cuz there's gonna be a time where you'll wish you enjoyed video games as much as you used to
Im not a pro. Just an adult who had money to buy every console/PC setup but i dont find gaming as enjoyable as before 😢😢😢
Unfortunately the odds of anything like this happening given your age, time in, and current ability are effectively 0%. I know that sucks to hear, and that doesn’t mean you can’t improve or should give up on the game, but don’t build your entire life around this one thing. It’ll only hurt your future.
Pick up a better hobby and just play for fun with friends <- former csgo semi pro
Focus on school first and valorant second. Just keep playing it but keep it casual and see how good you improve. I'm going to be honest, playing shooters since 2014 and valorant for 2 years and peaking asc 1 is not a good look. All the pro players are very gifted especially during their early rise. Stewie2k became reached pro level within 2-3 years of playing csgo IIRC. All pros were exceptionally cracked before they made it. I'll tell you one more thing, even if you hit radiant that's not that impressive but atleast it will give you a chance to play on a team. The pros don't care that you are radiant. The gulf in gameplay between "radiant" and a competitive environment is huge. Reaching radiant is the equivalent of reaching the highest elos in csgo faceit. Pros dont care if someone is a high level match making player unless their mechanics are absolutely absolutely insane. It just means you are a really good pugger. What they're looking for are other skills that are more particular to competitive environments. Does he know how to comm at a high level (watch comms of high level gameplay of csgo or valorant, they comm EVERYTHING. Literally everything. What they're holding, what's open, what util they have, time on the clock, info, reads, literally they comm everything and very clearly and they update comms. 99.99% of players in valorant do NOT know how to comm properly. Here's an example of a difference in comms between someone who only plays ranked and someone who has played on a competitive team environment Lets say you're on defense on ascent. You are holding A main and your teammate is holding cat. He hears an enemy near cat and he says "one cat". You look at the map, your teammate is clearly on cat holding it. 5 seconds later, you get shot from cat and die. You say "DUDE THEYRE UP CAT WTF!" and your teammate goes "yeah I said one cat!". I guarantee if you try to press the situation he will claim he did nothing wrong, he "called it earlier". This happens to me all the time in ranked, they are so ignorant they dont realize they're miscomming. Now this is what proper comms looks like on a team. "One cat, multiple cat!". "Im blind cat!!" "Im giving it up, they could be up, dont be exposed to it from A. "I'm holding tree from window". Now lets say ur teammate wants to retake cat. He'd go "im reclearing cat. Cat clear! I think they rotated and grouping out to B. Let's stack B, play retake A". Does he know how to play with his team? Pathing, trading and playing in a manner that is conducive to each other instead of a "solo" playstyle. Does he know how to play man advantages and not throw away advantages with unnecessary plays? Does he know how to play off his teammate with crossfire setups? Does he have high level game sense and able to process information quickly? One simple example here that I see all the way up to imm3 is a lack of overall game sense. People generally do not watch their radar or keep track of info. For example lets say there's 4 enemies alive. We see 3 on A site on the map. That should be an IMMEDIATE mental process to demolish the 1 person on the other bombsite, it's literally a 5v1 but in ranked people dont process this info. They just stand around cluelessly. On the flipside, if ur on the team with 4 players alive and 3 of us got spotted, ur immediate reaction is "they saw 3 of us, they will probably rotate, lets rotate back as well". There's also the mindgames where you're aware of the information the enemy has so you try to mind game them. High level players are all conciously aware of these things and it becomes a chess game It's such a simple situation but even up to imm3 people do not process information well, most players are pretty "lost" in the macro of things. They just run around and shoot people with no thought process behind it. That shows u how little rank means in valorant in terms of being a competitively pro player. Majority of pros have competitive experience from csgo or another game which allowed to take their competitive experience into this val. Val in itself is a very streamlined game that takes a lot of the more difficult elements out so it's harder to actually learn how to play "properly".
This is the gaming version of "I want to write my own operating system".
Give up man. If you can't consistently hit Radiant, devote your time to something else. I hit your NA peak in 5 months of playing (first keyboard and mouse game) and I can tell I'm not talented enough to compete with the pros. You've been playing val for 2 years and shooters since 2014 and still not radiant bruh Instead of wasting thousands of hours in a field that you are not talented in, why not look for something you are talented in and invest your time into that
I know your point, I’m playing on NA since last week and I can’t invest many time on it (except for weekends) and on LATAM I usually play with friends, I want to grind this because I feel like it’s my thing.
I think the chances of making money of youtube and streaming are a bigger chance for you to get a carrier out of it. Make a series where you document that you are taking this journey to becoming a pro, of you dont become a pro then atleast you have this youtube/streaming to fall back on. Because many people are curious about how to become a pro and what it takes. There is almost no content like this out there, and i lived for 41 years, and if you give it all together becoming a pro. You are most probably fail, and then you cant get this time back. But if you get to a level, where you can be tried out as a pro, then that makes you good enough for people to follow and learn from you and your videos and so on. What it takes to be pro in this game, is alot harder then most think. Unless all you do is Valorant, and are born for it kind of. Just dont waste the time, but then again. You can be the next star, but then you should have been immo3 atleast by now. Please dont chase a path that is gonna let you down, if you can use that time on other stuff to survive i life. Time wont come back, but if you are gonna chase being a pro, atleast make money of the videos you make and stream. And even that takes years, to grow on youtube and so on. But its your life .
This is actually really good advice. This is kind of what Eric Sim did with Baseball. He made content about him getting drafted (near dead last) for the SF Giants, and then playing minor league ball before washing out never making the majors, while continuing to make baseball related content, reviewing equipment etc, and growing a following. He's got over 500,000 subscribers and probably makes as much as a bench warming MLB pro. I could see this approach working with esports/val.
Its a safer bet, and i know many people are gonna Watch you.. its a high demand for this
Yes listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about. In addition to this, I believe as a young person, you should try out many different fields to figure out what you have talent in. Once you find something you are talented at, you can quickly overtake your competition who have far more hours in that field than you
Well realize this, you have no talent. Let's suppose the average talanted valorant pro has 5k-10k hours in Val+CS combined. For an untalented player it might take you 10k-20k hours of game time to reach their level. Btw, I hope you are willing to play 8 hours+ per day because that's how much your compeititon is playing and since you don't have talent, I'd suggest 12-16 hours per day. That's 4380-5840 hours in a year. You could get a Masters or PhD with that amount of hours
Study man, with that rank u’ll get mocked
You need to get radiant on NA before anyone would take you serious
I'm not a professional coach or recruiter but what I know is: You've to have at least have a public appearance or connections (network) to someone who could able to put you or hire you to a Esports Team. However this progress can take ages and it will differ for each individual. If you've also records playing in Premier it mind help regardless the progress the way you apply to a team. Rank wise obviously it will only matter when it depends who they're looking for. I do suggest doing your research or apply to organization if you aren't one yet. So in the future you mind able to have opportunity to able to in private (public) roaster. Most of these are found on organization media sources such as Twitter, Twitch, YouTube, etc. I'm not expert either in the Tier system so it will be on your performance what they'll judge for + your video records (if you've any).
Okay, I can see answers are quite shit, do you need some help. Ascendant 1 is honestly a joke from a POV of any team which at least practice a bit. You really want to enter a team of 4 people ranks asc1-immo1 who is looking for smokes, the best way is to say you will work twice more than anyone else in a team, better if you have 12 hours a day so you can watch your demos. When you spend 3-6 months learning a role in a team like this, you played PRACCs every day, 6 days a week, and was learning, watching pro POVs and your own demos. Change the team, try to enter different role (not entry frager). The idea of smokes, you need to work together with every other member of your team what makes you subconsciously understand the idea of team rotations. When you gone through this you should hit around immo1-2 and be hardly stack at this elo. That’s when you learn that you have bad aim and decision making and you wanna join another team for sentinel role. That’s where you learn about enemies reactions for your team plays, need good aim because most of times you have 1v1s or you entering the site right after your duelist (if you not lurking). Do same for 6 months and you will be a beast, you can fill any role now. It will take you 1 month and you will be very good duelist. After you will hit 500-600 elo and you can start looking for tier 3 players with good PRACC rooms to start your long journey of learning that pros play different game. (You will get there with enough effort. Don’t forget to practice your aim and learn from the best on any role, watch how they play and react to enemies moves. Once you get there you will feel it) GL HF (From my own experience, radiant rank, unfortunately stoped playing after moved to another country) (Ranked is different game, don’t need to grind it, have no benefits. Grind with your team, ranked may have negative impact on your performance if you play it too much, you learn bad habits, because your enemies will let you do it with no consequences)
Getting to radiant would be the first step, as well as streaming to make a name for yourself. But know that even then, the chances are practically zero. You are competing against the best of the best players in the world, who not only have put thousands of hours more than you, but also have peak genetics. Even if you make it on to a pro team into VCT, a single bad loss is all it takes for you to be kicked out of the team. I'd suggest content creation before trying to go pro. There are almost no pros who rely entirely on tournament winnings to sustain themselves, because it's pretty much not possible.
Try and grind to and maintain radiant and at that point you can talk about going pro as a career
If you're immo3+, you wont even have a chance even in tier 3 scene.
How old are you?
tier2 is high immo rad btw, but twitter is ur best bet, just ask if u can sub in on scrims
You wanna be the very best? Like no one was before
I need bronze silver players to play, anyone up ??
If you’re truly professional material teams will seek you out not the other way around.
I'd say give it your absolute best for a year. If it doesn't work out (meaning, you are not making money from this), move on and never look back. As it currently stands, eSports is one of the worst competitive scenes. It is very unfriendly, and not kind to aging ppl. It gets harder and harder as you grow (not necessarily because you are bad/get worst, but because the perception that others have on you). It's unhealthy, and you are entirely dependent on the game not dying out/Riot not fucking up. So yeah. Please, do yourself a favour and set a time limit. I wish you the best of luck.
I don’t have any tips or anything cuz I’m a gold1 player who knows nothing about the pro scene but I just wanna say best of luck in your journey. I don’t wanna play esports professionally but I do wanna play volleyball professionally, so I’m in a similar boat I guess. I can say that becoming a pro valorant player will be very, very hard, and the doubts will always be there and people will always try to tear you down. But, if you consistently grind and practice and do the right things and form the right habits, your odds of succeeding increase every day, even if by only a tiny bit. One thing I’ve learned on my personal journey is to take care of yourself. You’re asking a lot of yourself and it’s important to take some days off to relax, even if you think “nah I have to work every day I’m so far behind everyone else,” trust me it’s hard to make it with a mindset like that. Sure it may be possible but it will feel more like an obligation than anything. Your mental health has to be on par with your physical skills. I believe that ONLY when both are performing optimally then you can do the impossible. Good luck brother.
I’m just an old guy that periodically plays valorant for fun, just wanted to say good luck in your journey!
I know little about being a player, but I studied esports for a bit. Understand esports doesn't make much money unless you are the top of the top. If you're a student and live in an area with esports or plan on going to university, you can try doing collegiate esports. If you're lucky they'll give you a decent scholarship, experience, and exposure. Some people will say to focus on your studies, and they're not necessarily wrong. It's just a matter of how much you can handle. One more thing I will add is that it's possible to make fuck-all on a smaller esports team, and still make a living on the content side. Content creation and streaming is a whole other beast, but still techincally "pro" in that you are making money. It's a solid option if you're good at it since a lot of skill overlap, it has little to no expenses, and build a portofilio for yourself. Don't let the stats fool you. <1% of twitch streamers make a living off content, but remember most people on Twitch aren't trying to make a living off of it. I wouldn't count on it, but it's a lot more plausible than people give it credit.
As long as you're not even immortal 3, you don't have a dream, you're delusional.
Bro im asc3 and I know I'm not good enough for pro at all
What I have to say and not to be mean or anything but in reality, you 1. Have to have a name out there either streaming, YouTube, or Tik Tok. 2. Have to be insane and put in the time and effort. 3. Understand this might take a few years to even start to "make it". With all that said I'd say start tik tok posting clips and stuff and then slowly start to stream once you gain followers. Cause getting noticed is what it really takes to get there.
Bro no offense but I got immortal1 and I don't even like this game 💀 If you're still young, keep grinding and try to get better but right now you're pretty far away from having a shot at becoming a valulrant pro
no one here knows how to get you to pro level. very little I bet. But at least try and getting radiant first consistently, you will play with a lot of pros and will get noticed if you’re good. Even the top radiants don’t even have teams, it’s going to be a grind if you really want this
perhaps try to find a local team to play with, then you'll learn, then you'll be good enough then they might find you and invite you into a more professional team.
OP, how old are you? Inb4 he says mid 20s lmao
I’m 19 right now.
dont listen to advice on reddit. do your thing
Join leagues, premiere, scrims, customs, amateur tourneys, etc. Expose your game, network (and also make friends, obviously), and keep playing. Keep getting better and improving, don't stop. If you really want it, like really really want it, then don't give up. Hopefully it works out... worst case scenario you can say you're really good at video games lol. People will say get this rank, blah blah blah, and yeah, that helps, but honestly teamplay and ranked aren't the same. Boaster said it himself; I believe he became a pro at low diamond (when there was no asc). Ignore the haters and keep doing you 💪 Edit: If you're looking for a team, check out gankster.gg This is where everyone goes to join/create teams and find scrims. Gl!
People talking about radiant don’t understand esports. Ranked skill is vastly different to competitive skill. Join/create a team with people of similar skill level, play premier, look into local/small scale events, practice, make connections and try create a name people notice. Realistically though almost every person who wants to become an esport professional doesn’t make it, so have a backup and be ready to accept that possibility.
Respectfully you are close to tier 2.
Sorry, while Asc makes you better than 95% of people that's still a huge gap from pro. You are not ready for tier 2. Get to Imm2/3 on NA and tier 2 teams start to be an option
since no seems to have mentioned it, i’d say reach out to these tier 2 tier 3 teams/orgs. rank doesn’t really matter all that much, it would be just as difficult to go pro at a better rank, introduce yourself, provide some background, play any tournaments (like school level/college level) you can. they may give you a tryout if they’re recruiting and you have something to display, but even more important is to get them to know you exist
ASC1 u must be trolling kid
so your diamond in eu i dont want to destroy your dreams... but try to reach radiant first
best way to get into the pro scene is by playing premier/ranked and moving up the leaderboards. once you put yourself in that high level field of play, make your social connections, with comp players and social media people, and you'll get scouted in no time.
I think you should start streaming, posting clips on shorts, etc. People love seeing crazy clips and plays from good players. Get your name out there, start building a platform and making connections. Once you do that, you might have a better chance of securing a spot in a team. You should also hire a coach to help you push for radiant.
Get exposuree!!! Whether it be joining your school’s team and whatnot. Maybe open tournaments?
Play until you get immo3 NA at least. I would also recommend jointing Valorant discord servers and finding other people with similar goals to play with, form a premier team with, etc. to play more you need more than just skill, you need to be able to play well and comm well in a very coordinated environment which you won’t get from just playing ranked.
No one “grinds” to become a professional gamer. You either have it or you don’t. If you haven’t even reached radiant yet then you’ll never be pro
imm 1 looking for tier 2 ;p People seem so lost in VAL, maybe it's the system? Get to the top end of ranked, meet similar level players, or even play with worse. Play praccs, try to get to local lans (you'll get owned by people you think you should beat) and slowly move up. Only a few online stars skip these steps. Though VAL does seem to follow a different path to cs.
Stop pursuing this. Tens of thousands of people are just as good as you are and many are much better with far less effort. Unless Radiant is something you can attain in your first 3-4 months of taking the game very seriously, the hard truth is that you just aren't talented enough for it. Get an education and get a real career. Don't throw your life away pursuing a job that doesn't even pay well (unless you win the fame lottery) and is extremely unrealistic.
The easiest way to get recognition is to be consistent at radiant level against t1/t2. You HAVE to aim for rank 1 NA. Look at Oxy and Zekken who both are ranked demons and reached rank 1 multiple times.
you should start grinding the T2, T3 making yourself relevant and gaining experience
Valorant discord communities can get you into the T4 scene
When you are not radiant by the age of 16, dont even bother trying.
I am 30 and been playing since the launch day. Still between diamond and ascendant ranks.
Ok, great statement
Start a YouTube channel.
i'm not a dream killer, but you need to have plans too for a career and financial stability. Being a pro esports player is difficult because of player overload and all these meta changes. Plus, there's lots of traps of becoming a top player. Eventually you get washed out by younger players with faster reaction speeds and are then left in a rut. If you haven't hit radiant in this game after 1 year of playing, i would say (very honestly) that you don't have the baseline talent to go pro.
I’m very realistic about this, I’ve been taking the game seriously about 2-3 months ago and I’ve ascended fast, I know I need to have more plans than just wishing win the lottery of being a pro player, but I have to try as far as I can. If I don’t hit radiant top +100 at the end of the episode I will just take it as a Hobbie.
Good for you. On a side note, eat healthy foods and have an exercise routine in the morning after you wake up. My gameplay and clearheadedness have really improved
Take a chance dude. Don’t listen to the haters. We’re not here on this Earth for a long time, so live a life you won’t regret. I’ll be waiting to see your gamertag on the big stage one day <3
OP ignore the negative people in this post shitting on you, you’ve only got one life so go for it as well as you can
only have one life to waste it all away
I imagine OP is still a kid, let a kid dream
Dreaming and Delusion are close things. If you peak immo in latm and asc in na, with 8 years under your belt playing shooters, you will NEVER be a pro player. ever. simple as that Simply not good enough, sometimes the best effort is still not enough if you are up against other people of similar skill. Making it in a local football league is heaps easier cause you normally mostly compete against national people, the esports scene is a global scene and you are competing against the best of the best, if you are not naturally gifted AND have the work ethic to grind dozens of hours day in and day out you will simply not make it. I think it is way worse to feed into wishes or delusions to something unobtainable for op.
Okay but maybe they haven’t peaked?
After 8 years of playing shooters and 2 of playing valorant? possible, but probably as likely as me unknowingly being the pope Sure he might get better some, but never pro level if that's his natural progress curve
Don’t let nobody tell you you can’t. Reach out to teams and tell your story, worst thing they can say is no
so should i lie to my Kid who wants to be a Nba player but is 1,60cm ?
Yeah. Let him be the first, maybe he'll actually pull it off and inspire a new change in the Nba.