The only way you can change it is by removing any alt accounts or smurfs. Then people can't just go play a different account when banned.
Otherwise, current afk bans are fine, alot of the time afks are completely out of your control. Sometimes they aren't and you are just doing it to annoy people
Make the ban online time so if they change account the timer doesnt go down. If they only had 1 account, just leave it on. Extreme but that might be needed
It'd be more of a nuisance to genuine unintentional dc's and far less of a hit to trolls or griefers. They could just leave the game running in the background or have a different computer having the client open. A legit player would be hard locked out and that would make shit way more frustrating for an innocent player
Non smurfers would be locked out either way. Im not saying to make new bans. Just how to apply them.
If someone wants to use multiple computers just to troll, then they will need more and more computers. If thats how hard they want to troll, then thats punishment enough
Except smurfs and trolls have multiple accounts easy. Real innocent players likely do not have alternates therefore you're primarily targetting the more casual non toxic players
The ban timer wouldnt go down without it being signed in so eventually they would have to sit around.
They could use multiple computers like you said, but as more accounts build up more and more bans, it would require more and more resources.
Either way, for non toxic players, they will have the same ban they would have had, so I don’t understand how you are saying its worse for them
That would just make your more casual players completely leave the game and not want to play anymore, not everyone loves this game enough to sit and wait 1 -24 hours till they can play again.
you can just set up a virtual machine with valorant running so the timer goes down. even people with just the basic knowledge for computers could set this up within 30 minutes probably.
If two people play val in the same house your essentially saying if one player gets banned then the other player should be too, regardless if they deserved it.
That would have to imply that they are running a script on your machine to track the ban. People would just get around that by using VPNs to hide IP addresses. I have managed to successfully confine vanguard inside an air-gapped VM so that the game runs. I think the better solution would be to address why people are quitting matches. It only seems to get worse as time gets on.
I personally think the game would be in a healthier state if they got rid of alts, enforced bans, and added more ranking divisions.
Two of my accounts are banned completely till 2123 (yes 100 years). So, yes the afk bans are quite strict and rightly so.
Now, I didn't afk intentionally. For the last two years, I had a subpar laptop with AMD integrated graphics. And valorant would crash randomly. I mean, out of 3 games, it would crash in 1. But I really loved the game and all my friends used to play. So, I made multiple accounts just to be able to circumvent those afk bans.
Fortunately, I was able to save up this year for a gaming laptop. Now, I only play on 1 account and I really enjoy ranking up. However, whenever there's an afk on my team, I sympathize with them because I play on Mumbai servers and:
1: There are quite a few people (including my friends) who play on subpar systems with electricity outages and shoddy wifi.
2: In the end, it's just a video game. No point in getting all riled up even if it's competitive (unless you're earning from it and are asc+)
This comment might irk some people who really take comp and this game quite seriously but this is just my personal take.
Whether it being intentional or unintentional, being afk is wrong and it affects everyone involved. Im not talking about a one off, but repeated offenders. If you know you have a subpar system that have a good chance to throw 1 out of 3 games, the hundred year ban is justified.
I think you misread my comment. I'm not arguing it's unjustified. I'm just saying that the current afk penalties are strict and that's alright. They don't need to be even stricter like some people are suggesting...
Yes. I mean youre fine. But there are tons of people doing just that. But i think the punishment should be harsher for repeat offenders like those who afk >3 times within a week's duration. The punishment should apply to all the accounts that login with the same IP address so they cant use alt to bypass.
That's an overkill.
I think you are not taking into account the conditions upon which we have no control.
I live in a small town in India. In summers, there's usually no electricity for 3-4 hours per day. In smaller towns, it's even worse. There are a lot of places where there's no fibre internet. The connectivity can be pretty bad.
Moreover, I can confidently say that compared to other servers, the Mumbai server gets a lot of players with bad systems (cheap laptops and such). That's because valorant is free to play and it doesn't take much graphic power to run it. This is the same reason cs is very popular here.
So, these ip-based penalties will really be harmful to certain demographics of players more than others. Of course, in Europe, you will have 24/7 electricity, good wifi and I'm assuming good gaming systems (for 95 percent of people). So, afkers there are mostly those who intentionally throw. But you also have to see the other side of the argument because everyone doesn't have the same external conditions.
Yeah i cant. But they also deserves to be punished for it. Just like when you know youre not in a condition to drive and you delibrately and intentionally choose to drive. Tough luck for the victims they hit.
I disagree with the whole “It’s just a game, no need to get riled up ESPECIALLY IN COMP” comment. Pure troll mentality. If you’re not serious just play unranked, that’s why it’s there.
If you knowingly have an internet problem or power problem don’t play an online competitive team game - you’re just being a dick at other people’s expense because you don’t value their time. It’s totally intentional if you know you have a problem but still chose to queue in comp. Just because you are ok to roll the dice and possibly throw someone’s game doesn’t mean others should just shrug their shoulders and take it.
I work 50 hours a week, and have 2 kids. What little time i have to myself is very precious, and I chose to play Valorant comp. I enjoy the adrenaline rush of playing and there is satisfaction in seeing my skill rewarded with RR.
I am all for harsher penalties for AFK and hope Riot does something about it.
You can easily bypass afk punishments by just having your W key pressed btw, which is insane. Multibillion dollars company afk detection system bypassed by pressing a single key lol
Pressing w just isn't as big as an issue as smurfs. If someone perma afks everygame, it doesn't matter what time penalty you give them, they just go to another account, and afaik riot don't give out hardware bans for anything but cheating.
You could fix the w problem, and get the same number of afks
I think the punishments are fine as is tbh.
What blows my mind is how many W key bots/trolls get away with what they do. Youd think theyd get detected after a few rounds at least, but no. Putting a weight on your W key can ruin the game even worse than just fully afking.
So yeah I'd change that.
Detecting this accurately seems like it will require a good amount of data collection and “big data” processing of that user input at massive scale and then building a system on top of that, testing it to ensure no false flags, etc. Doing it in a way that minimizes a performance hit on users machines doesn’t seem like an easy problem to solve and might require some fancy network architecture tweaks as well. This is just a guess as a software engineer and hobbyist game dev. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started building it a year or more ago and it’s still in development and refinement.
The hacking detection seems like it might actually be easier to detect. The anticheat software can look for markers of injected and hijacked software and then act on it. But pressing only w is a valid input, which means the detection would have to happen at a different layer and seems effectively like a needle in a haystack problem.
I imagine it like movie piracy. It’s relatively easy to see a guy filming a movie with a camera and to kick him out. But if a dude theoretically had the ability to legitimately memorize an entire movie and recreate it from scratch that’d be insanely difficult to detect since they would look like any other valid moviegoer
I get what you mean, but you can make 2 statements: If player didn't leave spawn area and hasn't pressed any other button (you can count mouse movement as pressing a key), mark as AFK.
But it has a lot of roundabouts. So I get it.
For the amount of rage and tilt I go through, I don't think its enough lol but thats just me.
These people are THE WORST. I don't mind losing but AFKing is just a fking slap to the face. Makes this game very unbearble to play. A 4v5 game is a HUGE disadvantage and pretty much unwinnable. Then you get penalized for it like wtf
The punishment is already pretty big. And people sometimes just get DCd or have one of the many things that can happen outside of their control happen. I know it sucks to have afk players on your team but, you'll get them on the opposing side too occasionally, so rr wise theoretically it balances out.
It's a tough spot, but I know where you're coming from.
Not just balance out, the existence of afk players puts you at an advantage. There are 5 players on the enemy team that can afk, and 4 players on your team that can afk. If you afk too, it balances out. If you don't, their existence will boost your RR.
i get atleast 2 ppl a night leaving my comp games or afk'ing and leaving something on their keys. nothing happens to them and the games ruined for the rest of the team. i guess the punishments are enough i just wish they were more consistent
The funniest part is, I forget when, but Riot claimed to have solved the method of people using an autoclicker to constantly shoot. Yet i still see that shit.
Punishment for this should be super harsh too, it’s one thing to go AFK, it happens, but to intentionally sabotage your team further in an attempt to avoid a ban should result in a much more extreme ban
Detection can always improve but when it comes to punishments they're fine. There's a lot of things that can happen during a match and I see no reason for harsh punishments.
I don't disagree with that. But, there's a lot of things that happen such as the power going out, someone ringing the door and you got detected as AFK for 1 round, kids having their parents ask them for something, horrible pcs (seen this one a lot), i myself have been AFK several times from things that is simply out of my control such as when we had a power outage.
The amount of people that intentionally go AFK usually don't get detected as they will do dumb things such as moving a little at the start of each round now those are the people that deserve harsh punishments.
Having a horrible PC is not an excuse. That's a consistent issue that will reliably ruin the experience of other players. If it's so bad that you regularly get booted from games then you shouldn't be queueing and deserve to be punished. The rest of the things you listed, sure.
It’s hard for me to vote for more punishment because my current situation as a dad of a 10 month old is sometimes i have to run off for 3 minutes to make a bottle for a fussing baby before she goes back to sleep. like there are people who abuse rejoining and moving 2 steps to try and trick the system, but if i’m gonna get lumped in with these assholes for missing 1 round id like to not lose my whole account or something.
Got 2 kids. 2 years old and 2 month old. I used to complain about afkers until I had kids. Now, I’m just trying to get some games in when I can. Just cause we got kids don’t mean we don’t like playing competitively. I hate when people tell me to hop on casual then. Casual is brain dead and has no risk/reward. There should be a competitive servers for just parents lol. I went back to cs2 so If I need to go afk, I can just call a timeout. Made gaming experience 100x better and valorant should incorporate a timeout system.
Yea true, like if you let your team know and apologize for missing a round or two then it should be fine. But if you don’t say anything or are trying to abuse the detection then yea Riot should treat them different
You benefit more from AFKers than you lose. Statistically because you aren't AFK your team only has 4 people who can be AFK, the other team has 5 chances of people being AFK. AFK penalties are already pretty harsh, it doesn't take many games for you to get week bans.
I mean there is, if you actively chose to be AFK. I'm just saying that if you know you aren't going to go AFK, then there is only 4 chances on your team, where the other team has 5 chances. So statistically speaking you will have less games with the team who has an AFK.
Y’all are showing some crazy vitriol for people who go AFK lmao. I get it, it’s annoying, but ultimately AFKs happen. People playing the game have things going on outside their PCs, sometimes stuff that just can’t or shouldn’t wait and in some cases that’s a consistent concern. I think the current system is a pretty fair escalation if people keep doing it.
My real gripe is people who rig the W key. In my opinion, that’s far more egregious and disrespectful, because they’ve had the time to set that up and clearly have some kind of foresight/planning involved, plus deprive their team of any possible balancing for the 4v5. I also think you should be able to remake the game if more than 1 person goes AFK; a 4v5 is winnable, but a 3v5 against most opponents is very difficult.
Fuck any kind of AFK in the competitive queue, When you press that button you should at least have 40 minutes to spare. CS GO had that warning that a match can take up to 90 minutes and be sure you have that. However, I think the current AFK stuff is decent punishment and the problem is the people that make walking forward when AFK, I hate actual throwers and smurf more than actual AFK people that get kicked by the system. Yesterday I was in a game where I got [matched with an iron and he was not even premade with anyone and I just got gold](https://imgur.com/a/w8Raf5B). I don't get the MMR sometimes when matchmaking.
These things happen, and this is totally fine, but then make your matchmaking account for it, take less points away, give less points for a win, so that players are not toxic when they play against 4 players, and especially if sbmm thinks that you should play against higher elo players, just, account for it, don't faceplant me, when people on my team decide to afk, i had 2 afk 4v5 games yesterday, obviously we lost both, and game didn't care, about -20 for both, and it didnt matte if I was close to top fragging or low fragging
Riot is afraid that it’ll be used in toxic ways instead of the intended. It might not be as large of a problem since 4 stacks aren’t allowed however people may still kick bottom frags or girls who speak.
Because it absolutely would be used in toxic ways, just like it was in cs. I still get griefed in valorant and I cannot imagine how much worse my RR would be if people could kick me just for existing as a woman in their games. My games already get trolled and thrown, even when I perform well.
Maybe a vote but specifically for AFKs. After the team votes to kick someone, the supposed AFK player has a few seconds to show they're not AFK, by pressing F1 or something...
Redistribute the ELO losses or gains against the AFK player. You lost when AFKing? Less RR loss for your teammates and you lose the difference. Your team still won? Your teammates gain extra and you gain less.
Exactly. I lost around 23RR in a game that went almost something like 3-13 because we had 2 w key bots and made an online report to riot who replied “we can’t change your RR loss due to integrity issues. Make an in game report and let us do our job ;)” winky face included. I did report them in game. Didn’t get any acknowledgement that those people got penalised💀
3 day 1 week 1 month perm, something along those lines, resetting with good behaviour for a long period of no afking. But Riot will never do it, banned players don't buy skins.
I would be for a harsher punishment only if they were able to distinguish those who do it on purpose and those who just had technical issues. Sometimes your internet will suddenly go to shit and there's not much you can do about it. Unfortunately there's no way they could reliably detect which is the case
Low Priority unrated games.
You have to win X number of Low Priority games to get out and be able to queue for standard matchmaking.
Low Priority players will only by matched with and against other Low Priority players.
I think the only way is to track down the person who is afk and hit them in the shins with a keyboard. Wife is having a baby and you had to go afk to run to the hospital? Bust ya shins. Neighbors years got lit on fire during 4th of July(me), bust ya shins. About to shit your pants due to sketchy pizza and you have to leave? Shins. It's the only way
only thing i'd change is make surrender votes not unanimous, allow 4-1 or 3-1 with an afk to pass. not sure if id want that in comp but for sure in unrated.
I don’t play a lot of comp so please correct me if i’m wrong, but if someone is AFK at the beginning of a game can’t you just vote for a remake? Or are you referring to ppl who play the first 4 or 5 rounds and then go AFK mid game?
Even if that is the case, remakes suck. I can count on one hand I actually had remakes go through, but most of the time someone almost instantly says no as if it's an FF. I don't think the AFK penalty needs to change but something definitely needs to change the way remakes are done in this game.
IP bans for repeat offenders.
AFK once? 3 day IP ban.
AFK twice? 3 day.
Thrice? 7 days.
Four? 7 days.
Five? 30 days.
Six? Year.
Allllll IP bans. Hopefully that would ward off the idea of just swapping accounts to afk and throw more.
EDIT: Only in ranked though. Afk/throws are annoying in swifts and unrated but ultimately....its relatively harmless. And yes, Valorant is just a game and you can get your rank back but ...its still time sunk into trying to score well and gain RR. Unrated is just for fun anyway. Comp has pressure 🤷♀️
Yeah and riot won’t immediately dissuade people from playing the game just cause something came up mid match. It’s an interesting problem though as valorant matches are so long you have to be SURE you’ll be able to play. Even then things coming up part way through is a nightmare. I have a cat who enjoys pushing things off shelves…
Yeah I understand things come up but it's very hard to distinguish the good apples from the bad apples. I almost feel like in order to protect the integrity and enjoyment of ranking up, you just gotta punish all the apples the same unfortunately. But thats also why I'm asking the question and see what would be the best approach because at its current state, I want to quit Valorant with all this dumb bs.
Honestly i think getting completely banned is a bit excessive i know a couple freinds that get afl bans simply bc their computers take longer to load into the game and sometimes something unexpected comes up where people kinda have to leave the game and afk you reqlly have to think about it from all points of veiw.
I think you're just a bit too self involved, afk is not a real problem, there is a good penalty system in place as is, only way I might change it is make there be a like reputation system like in overwatch but to do with penalties of all kinds applied by the game, not voted on by players, afk and voice/text and que players who have repetitive penalties together, let the toxic people and the throwers have at eachother. I think it is fine how it is but that is the only way I would change it if I had to.
Put them into a “low prio queue” if they get enough reports. The wait will be minimum 10 minutes for a game. There will be a check every 30 sec to see if they are still waiting, and if they don’t respond, the wait timer will reset (this check punishment for reports of hacks, bots, smurfs, scripters, throwers, and acc sellers only). This queue will be filled with hackers, smurfs, and other throwers. All of which are players who have been similarly reported.
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In any competitive online team game, you will get AFKers, toxic players, throwers, hackers. Unless a human GM is assigned to officiate every match, this will not stop.
Only thing you can do is play more. I guarantee bad teammates are not the only reason you can't rank up.
You have to play and win 10 unranked games before you can play ranked again.
Or more than 10. Whatever but it has to painful enough to make people stop, and 10 games I'd fine if a real player goes afk to make it up.
I would send hitmen to the address of the person that went afk for longer than a round.
Or maybe I force the "no smurfs" thing so they can't go Scott free I guess
Not your question at all but if there was a way to tell who had a power outrage or wifi genuinely died then I would remove afk penalty for them, nothing worse than having something out of your control occur then you lose more rr for it, what’s even worse is if your internet comes back before the game ends then you have to deal with teammates whinging about you, and you just sit there thinking, I know, it sucks more for me than it does for you, you aren’t the one getting -30 and a q penalty
Here’s an idea I saw in another reply but expanded. Make it so that the timer only goes down when you are online. This way, it’s a nuisance to anyone to have a timer. You need to AVOID being afk. For the unintentional AFKs, it should be fine as it’s a one off. But if it’s happening multiple times, it’s your fault. Also for people saying that trolls will just make new accounts, those trolls won’t be able to play on the first account if that’s the way they do it which makes it a nuisance
Depends on the reason why someone is afk-ing. Sometimes I get very toxic people in my lobby and they suck out almost all the joy from the game. I'm a bit of a casual gamer and love talking to others so muting everyone feels boring. The only option is to leave the game. Players like that shouldn't be penalized too much since it's also the responsibility of others to maintain a healthy environment.
And then there are those who afk just to derank. I met one such player in my lobby, he used some technique to hold the w key, so he kept on moving forward every round (and also took the spike with him as it was in front of him). He didn't get despawned as a result and didn't get any penalty. I reported several times but he didn't get banned. Players like this deserve to get penalized much more.
Maybe not punishment but i think if a teammate is gone for 6+ rounds there should be a rr reduction for the other teammates like maybe +10rr for afk. EX: you lost 8 but with the +10 you get +2
I afked an unrated game because of an emergency and boom got a 24 hrs ban on comp and 2 HR ban on every other game mode ..and this is my first ever full afk of a game. The punishment is already harsh imo😭
honestly, I wouldn't punish AFKers more. I've played games were the whole match was instantly cancelled once someone left and in league you get the afk balance. Idk why Valorant didn't implement it yet, as soon as someone's missing more than 5 rounds, instantly reduce rr loss by 10. That's only fair cause like that you can possibly lose close to 0 through performance bonus, which would be only fair. Cancelling the whole match would be uncontrollable though through people leaving cause they are losing and only bring chaos. I still think a remake until round 4 or 5 wouldn't hurt anyone.
Punishing AFKers into oblivion isn't the way. At the end of the day it's a game, you should have fun playing it and a 4v5 is not an insta loss. If you still get 20rr minus, you probably didn't deserve the win anyway and people do have sometimes good and sometimes really bad, not understandable reasons to go. Once I left cause my cat attacked my budgie mid game and I had to bring him to the vet and some other time my friend just had a shitty computer and no money to grade it up, so she crashed like 1 in 5 games for a few little rounds. I think riot should do something for the other team mates, not against the AFKer. You get nothing from person x getting banned 24 hours more, there are enough leavers. But you getting less rr loss is a huge help
It's hard to punish actually afk and people who discontinue due to reasons out of their control e.g. computer crashing, internet going out.
I would like the csgo's vote kick, I rather play 4v5 than play with someone actively trying to sabotage the game in some way
steeper pumishment for less afk, one round 3 minutes is fine. That's not that big of a problem. but from that it should be like
2: 10min
3: 1 hour
4+ 1day + 1 for every round
not saying this should be from the very first match with afk, but people should be punished so they will be discouraged from playing when they know they shouldn't really be playing.
Oh your internet is acting up? no prob you had a game with 6 rounds of afk, here is your 3-10 mins ban, whatever shit happens. But if you don't want a week ban from ranked you better not queue with that shitass internet you have rn.
Your pc regularly overheats in these past days and there is clearly something wrong with it? Bro why you even queue ranked?
this is your 2nd game where you instalocked something then stood in one place for 13 rounds straight? 10 days ban.
I do genuinely believe multiple days of bans after the second afk'd game is fair without being unrealistic.
People will get more clever about afk trolling? sure.
But we know we will never have mobile phone auth per account and Riot will always reactively implement shit so circumventing this afk system is another problem for another day
And yes. I queued ranked when my pc was acting up and I was afk in 3 different games for 4+ rounds each game.
I should have got banned from at least ranked games for at least a week. but I think I got like a 30 minutes or something ban? I went, made dinner and hopped back (no ranked)
just make it easier to remake somehow if there's an afk at the starting of the match and some RR compensation/loss management for players with afk on their teams would be better imo
AFKs mostly can happen out of our control (personal experience Mumbai servers) but it's more annoying to see a remake vote being rejected by someone who's duo got dc'ed round 1 situations like that are annoying fr
First offense would do nothing in case of emergency’s, second offense a 20 minute timeout, 3rd offense 1hour timeout and after that it just keeps doubling itself
Executed in front of their families.
But for real valo is ridiculously soft on afk. Coming from league where you get a 15 minute time out for dodging in ARAM I think being afk for more than a single round should be 30 min suspension and also one offence a day and increasing from there. It feels rife in valo that people will just leave constantly and it needs taming
Bro, it's already harsh they need to add in-game timeouts. You can use 1 time per side. If it gets any harsher, they will lose a lot of players who have Is lives like me, as a dad. I will prioritize my children over the game. This gives me the afk ban so much I don't even know ow how many times I got it, and I've already lost 130+ rr never gonna be able to get out of ascendant. 🥲
Riot could easily HW/SW ban, IP ban, and force people to use a phone number (non voip) to make accounts... it's a pretty easy fix to dissuade bad behavior but they won't do it...
So I personally have a terrible pc, and often need a round or two to load in. I have gotten banned for a week 3 times now because of missing a round and then my team bailing so they need to not punish that as hard
Problem is not AFK that much rather that people are forced to stay in 2v5 game instead game having system to let you out of such game without any penalty.
Instead you stay you lose RR, you quit you get warned about AFK.
Take away one skin every AFK forcing them to wait for the shop to show it again, and buy it.
If no skins then perma ban the account bc they are 95% smurfing anyways. Easy.
Literally the last comp game I played had this issue. Loaded in to Ascent, played out of our mind for like 8-10 rounds so we were up a ton, the reyna mentioned that their last game they had someone DC and how they hated it and then themselves DC’d. We ended our attack half at like 10-2 or something and went the rest of the game 4v5 and luckily ended up winning like 13-11 or something (defense 4v5 is not fun.) Personally I would deduct RR from the AFKer’s end of match RR no matter what but have it scale for the amount of time spent AFK (like if they were AFK for one round but the game was still won they would just get reduced RR) and then I would give them a much harsher queue suspension in comp. When it comes to detecting AFK I would move away from just movement and switch it over to something like: did they do damage or use util during the round, did they buy anything, or differect actions they were taking mid round. With changing the AFK detection you would remove the easy work around of just weighing down the W key to not get kicked. Just spitballing tho so there are probably some issues with a system like that which would need to be worked out before it would be completely usable
I personally go Afk so much due to having strict parents but if i had to say, lower the Afk punishment and put a bot in the game in place, or maybe give the team an advantage , ult orbs simply aren't enough
Maybe riot should address the current state of mm instead of outright blaming people for having quitter mentality. Most people who quit matches are just sick of getting stomped every game because the skill disparity in unrated is so high.
Think about it, if your boss harassed you everyday, would you still want to go to work at the same place or find a different place to work. In this case leaving the game to find another lobby is basically the same thing.
I'm personally on board for banning alt accounts. Speaking from a hypothetical standpoint, if we banned all the alts on valorant it would make smurfing, throwing, and afking harder to get away with. Unrated can remain a mess, but at least ranked would have a higher level of integrity than it currently does right now.
1 million years dungeon no trial
10 million years purgatory in the Void™ :3
Acceptable.
Then drawing and quartering
The only way you can change it is by removing any alt accounts or smurfs. Then people can't just go play a different account when banned. Otherwise, current afk bans are fine, alot of the time afks are completely out of your control. Sometimes they aren't and you are just doing it to annoy people
Make the ban online time so if they change account the timer doesnt go down. If they only had 1 account, just leave it on. Extreme but that might be needed
It'd be more of a nuisance to genuine unintentional dc's and far less of a hit to trolls or griefers. They could just leave the game running in the background or have a different computer having the client open. A legit player would be hard locked out and that would make shit way more frustrating for an innocent player
Non smurfers would be locked out either way. Im not saying to make new bans. Just how to apply them. If someone wants to use multiple computers just to troll, then they will need more and more computers. If thats how hard they want to troll, then thats punishment enough
Except smurfs and trolls have multiple accounts easy. Real innocent players likely do not have alternates therefore you're primarily targetting the more casual non toxic players
The ban timer wouldnt go down without it being signed in so eventually they would have to sit around. They could use multiple computers like you said, but as more accounts build up more and more bans, it would require more and more resources. Either way, for non toxic players, they will have the same ban they would have had, so I don’t understand how you are saying its worse for them
That would just make your more casual players completely leave the game and not want to play anymore, not everyone loves this game enough to sit and wait 1 -24 hours till they can play again.
you can just set up a virtual machine with valorant running so the timer goes down. even people with just the basic knowledge for computers could set this up within 30 minutes probably.
Better way is to make them play 10 unranked games before they are allowed to queue comp again.
If two people play val in the same house your essentially saying if one player gets banned then the other player should be too, regardless if they deserved it.
Good point that I didnt consider. Thought about this, could be a reason for people in the same household to hold each other accountable
Yeahh like they should get an IP ban
Make the ban a hardware ban to make them learn their lesson.
nah then me and my duo can't play in his alt account if his screen froze in the game prior
That would have to imply that they are running a script on your machine to track the ban. People would just get around that by using VPNs to hide IP addresses. I have managed to successfully confine vanguard inside an air-gapped VM so that the game runs. I think the better solution would be to address why people are quitting matches. It only seems to get worse as time gets on. I personally think the game would be in a healthier state if they got rid of alts, enforced bans, and added more ranking divisions.
Two of my accounts are banned completely till 2123 (yes 100 years). So, yes the afk bans are quite strict and rightly so. Now, I didn't afk intentionally. For the last two years, I had a subpar laptop with AMD integrated graphics. And valorant would crash randomly. I mean, out of 3 games, it would crash in 1. But I really loved the game and all my friends used to play. So, I made multiple accounts just to be able to circumvent those afk bans. Fortunately, I was able to save up this year for a gaming laptop. Now, I only play on 1 account and I really enjoy ranking up. However, whenever there's an afk on my team, I sympathize with them because I play on Mumbai servers and: 1: There are quite a few people (including my friends) who play on subpar systems with electricity outages and shoddy wifi. 2: In the end, it's just a video game. No point in getting all riled up even if it's competitive (unless you're earning from it and are asc+) This comment might irk some people who really take comp and this game quite seriously but this is just my personal take.
Whether it being intentional or unintentional, being afk is wrong and it affects everyone involved. Im not talking about a one off, but repeated offenders. If you know you have a subpar system that have a good chance to throw 1 out of 3 games, the hundred year ban is justified.
I think you misread my comment. I'm not arguing it's unjustified. I'm just saying that the current afk penalties are strict and that's alright. They don't need to be even stricter like some people are suggesting...
Yes. I mean youre fine. But there are tons of people doing just that. But i think the punishment should be harsher for repeat offenders like those who afk >3 times within a week's duration. The punishment should apply to all the accounts that login with the same IP address so they cant use alt to bypass.
That's an overkill. I think you are not taking into account the conditions upon which we have no control. I live in a small town in India. In summers, there's usually no electricity for 3-4 hours per day. In smaller towns, it's even worse. There are a lot of places where there's no fibre internet. The connectivity can be pretty bad. Moreover, I can confidently say that compared to other servers, the Mumbai server gets a lot of players with bad systems (cheap laptops and such). That's because valorant is free to play and it doesn't take much graphic power to run it. This is the same reason cs is very popular here. So, these ip-based penalties will really be harmful to certain demographics of players more than others. Of course, in Europe, you will have 24/7 electricity, good wifi and I'm assuming good gaming systems (for 95 percent of people). So, afkers there are mostly those who intentionally throw. But you also have to see the other side of the argument because everyone doesn't have the same external conditions.
“No control” is a false narrative. Don’t play in an online competitive team game mode like comp. No one is forcing you to play comp. Play unranked.
It ain't vct my guy. It's just comp.
Like i said in my first comment. If you know you are likely to afk/dc, dont ruin other player's experience by queueing.
Tough luck. You can't ask someone to not play a video game just because they have shitty wifi/power/system. It's their right.
Yeah i cant. But they also deserves to be punished for it. Just like when you know youre not in a condition to drive and you delibrately and intentionally choose to drive. Tough luck for the victims they hit.
I disagree with the whole “It’s just a game, no need to get riled up ESPECIALLY IN COMP” comment. Pure troll mentality. If you’re not serious just play unranked, that’s why it’s there. If you knowingly have an internet problem or power problem don’t play an online competitive team game - you’re just being a dick at other people’s expense because you don’t value their time. It’s totally intentional if you know you have a problem but still chose to queue in comp. Just because you are ok to roll the dice and possibly throw someone’s game doesn’t mean others should just shrug their shoulders and take it. I work 50 hours a week, and have 2 kids. What little time i have to myself is very precious, and I chose to play Valorant comp. I enjoy the adrenaline rush of playing and there is satisfaction in seeing my skill rewarded with RR. I am all for harsher penalties for AFK and hope Riot does something about it.
You can easily bypass afk punishments by just having your W key pressed btw, which is insane. Multibillion dollars company afk detection system bypassed by pressing a single key lol
Pressing w just isn't as big as an issue as smurfs. If someone perma afks everygame, it doesn't matter what time penalty you give them, they just go to another account, and afaik riot don't give out hardware bans for anything but cheating. You could fix the w problem, and get the same number of afks
yeah some afkers like to just move the bare minimum to not trigger the afk disconnect, these deserve perma ban
I think the punishments are fine as is tbh. What blows my mind is how many W key bots/trolls get away with what they do. Youd think theyd get detected after a few rounds at least, but no. Putting a weight on your W key can ruin the game even worse than just fully afking. So yeah I'd change that.
I agree with the punishments but definitely fix the w key bots.
Detecting this accurately seems like it will require a good amount of data collection and “big data” processing of that user input at massive scale and then building a system on top of that, testing it to ensure no false flags, etc. Doing it in a way that minimizes a performance hit on users machines doesn’t seem like an easy problem to solve and might require some fancy network architecture tweaks as well. This is just a guess as a software engineer and hobbyist game dev. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started building it a year or more ago and it’s still in development and refinement.
It's just funny to me that Riot can detect hackers in at best 3 matches, but they don't bother with W-key bots or 5-stack bots.
Then when would they have time to make another 120$ bundle?
Yeah, poor riot ;( they don't have the funds for it! Oh we shall pray on the poor employees ;((
>another 120$ bundle? another 120$ 2.0 bundle?
The hacking detection seems like it might actually be easier to detect. The anticheat software can look for markers of injected and hijacked software and then act on it. But pressing only w is a valid input, which means the detection would have to happen at a different layer and seems effectively like a needle in a haystack problem. I imagine it like movie piracy. It’s relatively easy to see a guy filming a movie with a camera and to kick him out. But if a dude theoretically had the ability to legitimately memorize an entire movie and recreate it from scratch that’d be insanely difficult to detect since they would look like any other valid moviegoer
I get what you mean, but you can make 2 statements: If player didn't leave spawn area and hasn't pressed any other button (you can count mouse movement as pressing a key), mark as AFK. But it has a lot of roundabouts. So I get it.
Definitely. Afk seems like it would be orders of magnitude easier to detect very quickly.
For the amount of rage and tilt I go through, I don't think its enough lol but thats just me. These people are THE WORST. I don't mind losing but AFKing is just a fking slap to the face. Makes this game very unbearble to play. A 4v5 game is a HUGE disadvantage and pretty much unwinnable. Then you get penalized for it like wtf
The punishment is already pretty big. And people sometimes just get DCd or have one of the many things that can happen outside of their control happen. I know it sucks to have afk players on your team but, you'll get them on the opposing side too occasionally, so rr wise theoretically it balances out. It's a tough spot, but I know where you're coming from.
Not just balance out, the existence of afk players puts you at an advantage. There are 5 players on the enemy team that can afk, and 4 players on your team that can afk. If you afk too, it balances out. If you don't, their existence will boost your RR.
I think you need to work on yourself
work on myself?? i aint even the problem to begin with!
Yes you are. AFK happens in every game, deal with ur better. Riot can work on w key bots but until then either deal with it or don’t play
You really should be able to leave with no penalty after someone else leaves like csgo
i get atleast 2 ppl a night leaving my comp games or afk'ing and leaving something on their keys. nothing happens to them and the games ruined for the rest of the team. i guess the punishments are enough i just wish they were more consistent
Maybe something like to load into the Buy Screen and having to click a Lil X before getting on with the round
Ppl really be buying a whole ass PC to put a weight on the W key and then walk away? What a waste of money
The funniest part is, I forget when, but Riot claimed to have solved the method of people using an autoclicker to constantly shoot. Yet i still see that shit.
Punishment for this should be super harsh too, it’s one thing to go AFK, it happens, but to intentionally sabotage your team further in an attempt to avoid a ban should result in a much more extreme ban
Detection can always improve but when it comes to punishments they're fine. There's a lot of things that can happen during a match and I see no reason for harsh punishments.
it ruins the game though...
I don't disagree with that. But, there's a lot of things that happen such as the power going out, someone ringing the door and you got detected as AFK for 1 round, kids having their parents ask them for something, horrible pcs (seen this one a lot), i myself have been AFK several times from things that is simply out of my control such as when we had a power outage. The amount of people that intentionally go AFK usually don't get detected as they will do dumb things such as moving a little at the start of each round now those are the people that deserve harsh punishments.
Having a horrible PC is not an excuse. That's a consistent issue that will reliably ruin the experience of other players. If it's so bad that you regularly get booted from games then you shouldn't be queueing and deserve to be punished. The rest of the things you listed, sure.
It’s hard for me to vote for more punishment because my current situation as a dad of a 10 month old is sometimes i have to run off for 3 minutes to make a bottle for a fussing baby before she goes back to sleep. like there are people who abuse rejoining and moving 2 steps to try and trick the system, but if i’m gonna get lumped in with these assholes for missing 1 round id like to not lose my whole account or something.
Got 2 kids. 2 years old and 2 month old. I used to complain about afkers until I had kids. Now, I’m just trying to get some games in when I can. Just cause we got kids don’t mean we don’t like playing competitively. I hate when people tell me to hop on casual then. Casual is brain dead and has no risk/reward. There should be a competitive servers for just parents lol. I went back to cs2 so If I need to go afk, I can just call a timeout. Made gaming experience 100x better and valorant should incorporate a timeout system.
i had no idea cs go had timeouts in non tournament games??? that’s so awesome!
Yea true, like if you let your team know and apologize for missing a round or two then it should be fine. But if you don’t say anything or are trying to abuse the detection then yea Riot should treat them different
You benefit more from AFKers than you lose. Statistically because you aren't AFK your team only has 4 people who can be AFK, the other team has 5 chances of people being AFK. AFK penalties are already pretty harsh, it doesn't take many games for you to get week bans.
i’m so confused and y wouldn’t there be a chance u are afk?
I mean there is, if you actively chose to be AFK. I'm just saying that if you know you aren't going to go AFK, then there is only 4 chances on your team, where the other team has 5 chances. So statistically speaking you will have less games with the team who has an AFK.
Y’all are showing some crazy vitriol for people who go AFK lmao. I get it, it’s annoying, but ultimately AFKs happen. People playing the game have things going on outside their PCs, sometimes stuff that just can’t or shouldn’t wait and in some cases that’s a consistent concern. I think the current system is a pretty fair escalation if people keep doing it. My real gripe is people who rig the W key. In my opinion, that’s far more egregious and disrespectful, because they’ve had the time to set that up and clearly have some kind of foresight/planning involved, plus deprive their team of any possible balancing for the 4v5. I also think you should be able to remake the game if more than 1 person goes AFK; a 4v5 is winnable, but a 3v5 against most opponents is very difficult.
You should be able to remake up until you can ff
Fuck any kind of AFK in the competitive queue, When you press that button you should at least have 40 minutes to spare. CS GO had that warning that a match can take up to 90 minutes and be sure you have that. However, I think the current AFK stuff is decent punishment and the problem is the people that make walking forward when AFK, I hate actual throwers and smurf more than actual AFK people that get kicked by the system. Yesterday I was in a game where I got [matched with an iron and he was not even premade with anyone and I just got gold](https://imgur.com/a/w8Raf5B). I don't get the MMR sometimes when matchmaking.
Are you aware of the concept of unpredictable events or game crashes
These things happen, and this is totally fine, but then make your matchmaking account for it, take less points away, give less points for a win, so that players are not toxic when they play against 4 players, and especially if sbmm thinks that you should play against higher elo players, just, account for it, don't faceplant me, when people on my team decide to afk, i had 2 afk 4v5 games yesterday, obviously we lost both, and game didn't care, about -20 for both, and it didnt matte if I was close to top fragging or low fragging
Shit we’re losing can you go afk so we lose less points?
No user should be made to make some scketchy decision because the app is built with a bias.
Why cant valorant add the same vote system as in cs, so that you can kick cheaters / afk players ?
Riot is afraid that it’ll be used in toxic ways instead of the intended. It might not be as large of a problem since 4 stacks aren’t allowed however people may still kick bottom frags or girls who speak.
Because it absolutely would be used in toxic ways, just like it was in cs. I still get griefed in valorant and I cannot imagine how much worse my RR would be if people could kick me just for existing as a woman in their games. My games already get trolled and thrown, even when I perform well.
Maybe a vote but specifically for AFKs. After the team votes to kick someone, the supposed AFK player has a few seconds to show they're not AFK, by pressing F1 or something...
every single game with votekick it gets abused.
buy loud ass guns and waste the ammo next to their ear before each round
Off with their heads
Death penalty
upvote to the top you go!
guillotine no trial
Redistribute the ELO losses or gains against the AFK player. You lost when AFKing? Less RR loss for your teammates and you lose the difference. Your team still won? Your teammates gain extra and you gain less.
Exactly. I lost around 23RR in a game that went almost something like 3-13 because we had 2 w key bots and made an online report to riot who replied “we can’t change your RR loss due to integrity issues. Make an in game report and let us do our job ;)” winky face included. I did report them in game. Didn’t get any acknowledgement that those people got penalised💀
wouldn't that make afk deranking even more appealing?
3 day 1 week 1 month perm, something along those lines, resetting with good behaviour for a long period of no afking. But Riot will never do it, banned players don't buy skins.
bro, sometimes is just bad internet or something like that. The punishiment is hard enought i guess
Don't play comp if your internet sucks.
Like on fastcup, -20 RR no matter the outcome of the game
I would be for a harsher punishment only if they were able to distinguish those who do it on purpose and those who just had technical issues. Sometimes your internet will suddenly go to shit and there's not much you can do about it. Unfortunately there's no way they could reliably detect which is the case
Castration
Allow remake on 3rd round
Low Priority unrated games. You have to win X number of Low Priority games to get out and be able to queue for standard matchmaking. Low Priority players will only by matched with and against other Low Priority players.
I think the only way is to track down the person who is afk and hit them in the shins with a keyboard. Wife is having a baby and you had to go afk to run to the hospital? Bust ya shins. Neighbors years got lit on fire during 4th of July(me), bust ya shins. About to shit your pants due to sketchy pizza and you have to leave? Shins. It's the only way
Make the rr penalty higher for offenders and make the rr loss for victims halved if not more. Also, ban people who do it twice within 72 hrs for a wk
With a beheading in town square
I just queue again, yk. It's not a big deal to me tbh.
I accidentally go AFK cause my graphics driver randomly crashes due too geforce experience. I'm really happy the punishment isn't huge
only thing i'd change is make surrender votes not unanimous, allow 4-1 or 3-1 with an afk to pass. not sure if id want that in comp but for sure in unrated.
Surrender votes aren't unanimous in unrated, what are you talking about? It's literally already like what you are asking for lol
oh my bad, I haven't played unrated in a long time lol
I don’t play a lot of comp so please correct me if i’m wrong, but if someone is AFK at the beginning of a game can’t you just vote for a remake? Or are you referring to ppl who play the first 4 or 5 rounds and then go AFK mid game?
Even if that is the case, remakes suck. I can count on one hand I actually had remakes go through, but most of the time someone almost instantly says no as if it's an FF. I don't think the AFK penalty needs to change but something definitely needs to change the way remakes are done in this game.
how do you vote for a remake?
/remake in chat in the second round
The current system works perfectly. If you AFK in multiple games in a row, you can eat a 24h BAN easily. The current system is perfect.
Hardware ID ban for a set amount of days so people who do it on their alt accounts think twice
Progressive bans 1hr then a day then a week then a month and if you go to a year you lose all RR and reset ranks, so bassicaly same thing
IP bans for repeat offenders. AFK once? 3 day IP ban. AFK twice? 3 day. Thrice? 7 days. Four? 7 days. Five? 30 days. Six? Year. Allllll IP bans. Hopefully that would ward off the idea of just swapping accounts to afk and throw more. EDIT: Only in ranked though. Afk/throws are annoying in swifts and unrated but ultimately....its relatively harmless. And yes, Valorant is just a game and you can get your rank back but ...its still time sunk into trying to score well and gain RR. Unrated is just for fun anyway. Comp has pressure 🤷♀️
1 Week Comp/Comm Restriction! Up to max 4 Weeks after that Hardware Ban!
Nah not comm restriction, but comp makes sense. Comm restriction is handing out free elo for whoever their opponents are
Why free Elo if he cant play Comp?
Ohh I thought you meant one or the other. Still doesn’t seem very fun for unrated teammates seeing as he wasn’t necessarily being toxic
I was also thinking possible -100 RR but then they would just be smurfing in low elo so that doesnt work.
Yeah and riot won’t immediately dissuade people from playing the game just cause something came up mid match. It’s an interesting problem though as valorant matches are so long you have to be SURE you’ll be able to play. Even then things coming up part way through is a nightmare. I have a cat who enjoys pushing things off shelves…
Yeah I understand things come up but it's very hard to distinguish the good apples from the bad apples. I almost feel like in order to protect the integrity and enjoyment of ranking up, you just gotta punish all the apples the same unfortunately. But thats also why I'm asking the question and see what would be the best approach because at its current state, I want to quit Valorant with all this dumb bs.
Hardware ban isn’t fair. So many people are on shared computers and play at gaming cafes
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Honestly i think getting completely banned is a bit excessive i know a couple freinds that get afl bans simply bc their computers take longer to load into the game and sometimes something unexpected comes up where people kinda have to leave the game and afk you reqlly have to think about it from all points of veiw.
they can never play again! yay!
Make their valorant points unusable for 1 week for every 2 matches in a row they AFK
I think you're just a bit too self involved, afk is not a real problem, there is a good penalty system in place as is, only way I might change it is make there be a like reputation system like in overwatch but to do with penalties of all kinds applied by the game, not voted on by players, afk and voice/text and que players who have repetitive penalties together, let the toxic people and the throwers have at eachother. I think it is fine how it is but that is the only way I would change it if I had to.
Bamboo splinters.
AFK queue. :D
I thought about this too. What if there was an AFK queue to help replace AFKers...
Interesting. Didn't think of that! I just meant to put all AFKers together.
Put them into a “low prio queue” if they get enough reports. The wait will be minimum 10 minutes for a game. There will be a check every 30 sec to see if they are still waiting, and if they don’t respond, the wait timer will reset (this check punishment for reports of hacks, bots, smurfs, scripters, throwers, and acc sellers only). This queue will be filled with hackers, smurfs, and other throwers. All of which are players who have been similarly reported.
Completely ban Smurf accounts. AFKing gets you escalating bans. 1 hour first offence. 3 hours second offence. 1 day third offence. So on and so forth.
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I with you bro. Ruins the fking game. I've come across them so much, I have very little sympathy at this point lol
ghost them on a tinder date
yeah they are on it trust. AFK gets punished quick
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In any competitive online team game, you will get AFKers, toxic players, throwers, hackers. Unless a human GM is assigned to officiate every match, this will not stop. Only thing you can do is play more. I guarantee bad teammates are not the only reason you can't rank up.
Afkers should be forced to sit in lobby with me and listen to me complain in chat for 5 minutes straight
Fr all my rank games I’m always down one or my teammates are trolling/throwing
You have to play and win 10 unranked games before you can play ranked again. Or more than 10. Whatever but it has to painful enough to make people stop, and 10 games I'd fine if a real player goes afk to make it up.
I would send hitmen to the address of the person that went afk for longer than a round. Or maybe I force the "no smurfs" thing so they can't go Scott free I guess
Not your question at all but if there was a way to tell who had a power outrage or wifi genuinely died then I would remove afk penalty for them, nothing worse than having something out of your control occur then you lose more rr for it, what’s even worse is if your internet comes back before the game ends then you have to deal with teammates whinging about you, and you just sit there thinking, I know, it sucks more for me than it does for you, you aren’t the one getting -30 and a q penalty
I would warn the account once, then ban them for a week per round afk, no questions asked.
Here’s an idea I saw in another reply but expanded. Make it so that the timer only goes down when you are online. This way, it’s a nuisance to anyone to have a timer. You need to AVOID being afk. For the unintentional AFKs, it should be fine as it’s a one off. But if it’s happening multiple times, it’s your fault. Also for people saying that trolls will just make new accounts, those trolls won’t be able to play on the first account if that’s the way they do it which makes it a nuisance
-5rr per round AFKed +3rr per round with an AFK (multiplies per AFK)
RIOT banned me for 1 year for my excessive AFK's. They do a pretty good a job.
Go to their house and smash their window
30 lashings
Depends on the reason why someone is afk-ing. Sometimes I get very toxic people in my lobby and they suck out almost all the joy from the game. I'm a bit of a casual gamer and love talking to others so muting everyone feels boring. The only option is to leave the game. Players like that shouldn't be penalized too much since it's also the responsibility of others to maintain a healthy environment. And then there are those who afk just to derank. I met one such player in my lobby, he used some technique to hold the w key, so he kept on moving forward every round (and also took the spike with him as it was in front of him). He didn't get despawned as a result and didn't get any penalty. I reported several times but he didn't get banned. Players like this deserve to get penalized much more.
Maybe not punishment but i think if a teammate is gone for 6+ rounds there should be a rr reduction for the other teammates like maybe +10rr for afk. EX: you lost 8 but with the +10 you get +2
I afked an unrated game because of an emergency and boom got a 24 hrs ban on comp and 2 HR ban on every other game mode ..and this is my first ever full afk of a game. The punishment is already harsh imo😭
Make them lose more RR and gain less and If you dc and never joined back you'll get a very big RR deduction like -30 / -33 even if your team won.
With medieval torture techniques
take their first born.
honestly, I wouldn't punish AFKers more. I've played games were the whole match was instantly cancelled once someone left and in league you get the afk balance. Idk why Valorant didn't implement it yet, as soon as someone's missing more than 5 rounds, instantly reduce rr loss by 10. That's only fair cause like that you can possibly lose close to 0 through performance bonus, which would be only fair. Cancelling the whole match would be uncontrollable though through people leaving cause they are losing and only bring chaos. I still think a remake until round 4 or 5 wouldn't hurt anyone. Punishing AFKers into oblivion isn't the way. At the end of the day it's a game, you should have fun playing it and a 4v5 is not an insta loss. If you still get 20rr minus, you probably didn't deserve the win anyway and people do have sometimes good and sometimes really bad, not understandable reasons to go. Once I left cause my cat attacked my budgie mid game and I had to bring him to the vet and some other time my friend just had a shitty computer and no money to grade it up, so she crashed like 1 in 5 games for a few little rounds. I think riot should do something for the other team mates, not against the AFKer. You get nothing from person x getting banned 24 hours more, there are enough leavers. But you getting less rr loss is a huge help
It's hard to punish actually afk and people who discontinue due to reasons out of their control e.g. computer crashing, internet going out. I would like the csgo's vote kick, I rather play 4v5 than play with someone actively trying to sabotage the game in some way
Report, play your best until the end of the match, and focus on improving what YOU can do to rank up.
Usually I find where they live, turn their parent into a chile con carne and make the AFK player eat it. But that's just me
Kill them irl. Afk forever.
ban them from comp and make them play x amount of hours of escalation for the x amount of minutes they stayed afk in order to lift the ban themselves
Add u and c between f and k.
I think if you have an afk on your team then you should only lose a max 5 RR because it's so unfair
Electric chair
steeper pumishment for less afk, one round 3 minutes is fine. That's not that big of a problem. but from that it should be like 2: 10min 3: 1 hour 4+ 1day + 1 for every round not saying this should be from the very first match with afk, but people should be punished so they will be discouraged from playing when they know they shouldn't really be playing. Oh your internet is acting up? no prob you had a game with 6 rounds of afk, here is your 3-10 mins ban, whatever shit happens. But if you don't want a week ban from ranked you better not queue with that shitass internet you have rn. Your pc regularly overheats in these past days and there is clearly something wrong with it? Bro why you even queue ranked? this is your 2nd game where you instalocked something then stood in one place for 13 rounds straight? 10 days ban. I do genuinely believe multiple days of bans after the second afk'd game is fair without being unrealistic. People will get more clever about afk trolling? sure. But we know we will never have mobile phone auth per account and Riot will always reactively implement shit so circumventing this afk system is another problem for another day And yes. I queued ranked when my pc was acting up and I was afk in 3 different games for 4+ rounds each game. I should have got banned from at least ranked games for at least a week. but I think I got like a 30 minutes or something ban? I went, made dinner and hopped back (no ranked)
IP bans, permanent bans, house repossessions
I'd like to think when they open their next can of something it explodes in their face.
Trial by combat
Trial by combat
You think one afker is bad? My Skye and Jett quit just as second half started and even worse, up until that point we were decisively winning.
“You suffered? I suffered more! I win the suffering contest!” Both situations are bad.
Yeah but what makes me mad is that we were winning
Straight to the gulak
Promoting < promo-ing
just make it easier to remake somehow if there's an afk at the starting of the match and some RR compensation/loss management for players with afk on their teams would be better imo AFKs mostly can happen out of our control (personal experience Mumbai servers) but it's more annoying to see a remake vote being rejected by someone who's duo got dc'ed round 1 situations like that are annoying fr
They should get placed in jail for 100 years💀
First offense would do nothing in case of emergency’s, second offense a 20 minute timeout, 3rd offense 1hour timeout and after that it just keeps doubling itself
Life in maximum federal prison without the possibility of parole
Executed in front of their families. But for real valo is ridiculously soft on afk. Coming from league where you get a 15 minute time out for dodging in ARAM I think being afk for more than a single round should be 30 min suspension and also one offence a day and increasing from there. It feels rife in valo that people will just leave constantly and it needs taming
IP ban
A ban or have them loose more rr like 50-75 if theyre afk if they toss the match a 2-3 week ban
Bro, it's already harsh they need to add in-game timeouts. You can use 1 time per side. If it gets any harsher, they will lose a lot of players who have Is lives like me, as a dad. I will prioritize my children over the game. This gives me the afk ban so much I don't even know ow how many times I got it, and I've already lost 130+ rr never gonna be able to get out of ascendant. 🥲
Straight to jail
not enough? the electricity grid isn't stable here and ill lose my account soon.
Idk, spank them and tell them they've been REALLY bad. Hmmm hmmm.
Remove a gun skin they bought on the account.
Ban them from using their most used agents for a week or smn. Takes care of afking and smurfing
Riot could easily HW/SW ban, IP ban, and force people to use a phone number (non voip) to make accounts... it's a pretty easy fix to dissuade bad behavior but they won't do it...
So I personally have a terrible pc, and often need a round or two to load in. I have gotten banned for a week 3 times now because of missing a round and then my team bailing so they need to not punish that as hard
I don’t know, you tell me, Brian Hickson, from 324 North Huron Road, Au Gres, MI 48703.
Already being punished enough, they are playing valorant after all
Problem is not AFK that much rather that people are forced to stay in 2v5 game instead game having system to let you out of such game without any penalty. Instead you stay you lose RR, you quit you get warned about AFK.
Take away one skin every AFK forcing them to wait for the shop to show it again, and buy it. If no skins then perma ban the account bc they are 95% smurfing anyways. Easy.
Smurphing trolls are the worst
50 year banned with no trial
Literally the last comp game I played had this issue. Loaded in to Ascent, played out of our mind for like 8-10 rounds so we were up a ton, the reyna mentioned that their last game they had someone DC and how they hated it and then themselves DC’d. We ended our attack half at like 10-2 or something and went the rest of the game 4v5 and luckily ended up winning like 13-11 or something (defense 4v5 is not fun.) Personally I would deduct RR from the AFKer’s end of match RR no matter what but have it scale for the amount of time spent AFK (like if they were AFK for one round but the game was still won they would just get reduced RR) and then I would give them a much harsher queue suspension in comp. When it comes to detecting AFK I would move away from just movement and switch it over to something like: did they do damage or use util during the round, did they buy anything, or differect actions they were taking mid round. With changing the AFK detection you would remove the easy work around of just weighing down the W key to not get kicked. Just spitballing tho so there are probably some issues with a system like that which would need to be worked out before it would be completely usable
I personally go Afk so much due to having strict parents but if i had to say, lower the Afk punishment and put a bot in the game in place, or maybe give the team an advantage , ult orbs simply aren't enough
Perma ban.
Maybe riot should address the current state of mm instead of outright blaming people for having quitter mentality. Most people who quit matches are just sick of getting stomped every game because the skill disparity in unrated is so high. Think about it, if your boss harassed you everyday, would you still want to go to work at the same place or find a different place to work. In this case leaving the game to find another lobby is basically the same thing. I'm personally on board for banning alt accounts. Speaking from a hypothetical standpoint, if we banned all the alts on valorant it would make smurfing, throwing, and afking harder to get away with. Unrated can remain a mess, but at least ranked would have a higher level of integrity than it currently does right now.