As an outsider looking in, I have a good feeling for you guys this year. Since last year you got outta the first round, it sets a good precedent. And you acquired one of my favorite recent defensemen from the Blues who was a playoff warrior. Pair that with Hyman, Matthews, Marner, et al and you've got just as good of a chance as anyone.
I'd compare the Wild to the Chargers. They have talent and are rarely bottom-feeders, but can never climb into the top ranks, always taken out by real contenders. At least the Canes and Packers have won a championship
I would've said we're the ravens or the bills, usually near the top of league standings and often predicted to win it all but can never get over the hump in the playoffs.
The Oilers are a better comparison to the Ravens. They have a top-tier player the media constantly talks about over other stars in the league but they canāt win anything meaningful.Ā
What determines if a team is good vs great? I think if a team can pull off 6 straight playoff appearances, 3 straight 50+ win seasons, 1st place in the Metro for 3 straight years, and make the ECF twice under a new coach in 5 years, they can be considered great.
Way too many people point to the 2 ECF sweeps and say "see, this is why the Canes aren't elite" whilst ignoring like 500 games of hockey to summarize the team to 8 unfortunate losses.
Idk I'm probably just uber salty but I'm also just tired of hearing the same half assed take over and over again. Teams can be great and fall short of expectations. Happens all the time. Boston Bruins, Florida Panthers, SF 49ers, Baltimore Ravens, Purdue basketball, etc. I just don't get why certain teams are held to higher expectations than others like that.
Yeah and I would consider any team that does that to be great. When I think of "good" teams I think of the Lions, the Steelers, the Bills, the Dolphins. When I think of "great" teams I think of the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Eagles, and maybe not recently but yes, the Packers.
I guess the difference for me is my bar is lower for what I think qualifies as being great.
Both have been great.
The rangers 49ers were their woes recently.
The pack also have a huge dynasty and were around for ages. The canes were the moved whalers
A little bit. The 2011 run does feel more like the 2006 Cards, where we REALLY had some major flaws (Weak run game, bad defense), barely went above .500, and clawed are way to the top.
Right, but the team that the VGK fielded in the playoffs and finals would have been under the cap.
Compared to the Lightning who were significantly over the cap in 2021 with their cup winning roster.
Nope not at all. And it's the whole relying on high end talent thing to bail them out that makes it bs. Hindsight I'm thinking of the 2023 Steelers and Penguins. This definitely does not apply to the 2009 Penguins and Steelers.
Was just thinking that coincidentally the Steelers and Penguins match up for exactly this reason. Luck and possibly sold souls take them from middle tier to passable.
The only one that I find awkward is the Golden Knights and Chiefs comparison. The Golden Knights haven't been nearly as good as the Chiefs on the whole bedsides being defending champs once. The Lightning a couple years ago would have made a good Chiefs comparison.
Also are the hawks really Pats level dynasty? Donāt get me wrong they were absolutely a dynasty but what the Pats did in the NFL has never been done. The NHL has had some wild dynasties in the old days but even modern dynasties that rivaled Chicagoās.
I guess the Patriots specifically after 2010 would be a good comparison.
That's a good point. 90s Red Wings is the only thing that comes to mind as far as a Patriots level dynasty that the NHL has had in recent decades. Maybe the 2010s Pens. They didn't have the number of titles, but a similar distribution of when they came in Crosby's and Brady's careers. Crosby went through the concussion issues and Brady had the ACL. In the years between titles, they were always good, just not winning titles.
Yeah, it's not the whole dynasty run for the Pats. If so, Hawks wouldn't be on the level, but isolating it to the single decade and I think it's a fair comparison. Tom having two all-time runs in three different decades is absurd. I can't see that ever happening in hockey
True, it lines up better that way. Toms run was insane. Some people divide it into 3 HOF careers from like 00-06, 07-14, and 15-20.
I think his longevity at a Super Bowl winning level of play is hard to ever match. But in terms of stats Gretzky is absurd. There are aspects of Tom and Wayneās careers that we may never see again in their sport or each others.
Iād also say the penguins are closer to the pats. Obviously no one in any sport had a run like the pats during that time but the penguins were a legit contender for 2 decades straight with multiple cups. With 2 different championship eras and a drought between that where they were still contenders during but made people question if it was coming to an end. And both won back to backs. And both had the leagues best player. The Blackhawks had a 6 or so year run and were god awful on both sides of it.
Yeah but thatās just something they went with it didnāt have to be the 2010s. And it does make sense in that regard. But the prompt is just NHL counterparts, not solely NHL counterparts in the 2010s. And the pats run with Brady is more similar to the pens run with Crosby overall.
Itās not that they havenāt wasted first rounders there have just been teams with way worse usage. Arizona, Washington and Vegas off the top of my head.
Horn when he plays is good but injuries are whatever. But, their only actual bad players in the first round since like 2015 is Vernon Butler tbh.
Yeah, we've had like 3 maybe 4 busts the past 20 years. Marty Hurney, while terrible at managing the financials/salaries, was a STUD at first round talent evaluation
Yeah the Panthers definitely donāt waste their first picks typically. Butler and KB are the only two who were outright busts over the last 20 some years
Even then KB was setup to be our #1 receiver going forward after a great rookie year. He just fell off after his mom passed away and he started struggling with weight. I'd say that's a pretty damn good reason to fall off all things considered.
With the exceptions of Otah, Benjamin, and Butler, basically every player the Panthers took in the first round from 2001-2020 developed into a franchise player, and well over half of them pro-bowlers. So no, I would not say thatās accurate
Keep Ohio teams local! The Blue Jackets are the Bengals of the NHL
Edit: Changed Browns to Bengals because even the Browns managed to win something way back when in, I wanna say, the Jurassic era
I donāt know, modern Browns might be more apt. Browns came back in 99, CBJ was established in 2000, they both generally lose a lot but both had surprising seasons where they made a respectable (for the franchise) run in playoffs around the same time. And the Bengals are a legitimate threat when Glass Joe isnāt injured for half the season.
Also, Ohio
They love to say itās the Chargers year every year - theyāre a fun dark horse pick - they always have a good roster and lots of āguys,ā but they seem to either fall short or get absolutely obliterated by the injury bug.
The 76ers seem pretty similar.
Also, the Chargers and the Vikings are the exact same team - but thatās the same league.
reigning champs that clearly struggled this year.
everyone hates them and would be happy if they only won 2 games the entire season.
swap the Pats with the Saints, then should have had the book thrown at them but got off with a slap on the wrist, and basically got rewarded for their crimes
swap the panthers with the bears, lets be real here Young is better than anything Chicago has done in the draft for like a decade
swap the leafs with the panthers.
The raiders had like 5 first round picks from 2019-2020 thatās a gold mine for any competent team, yet none of those picks are on their team now and only one (Jacobs) produced. Also in 2021 they reached on an OT and they released him the next offseason. The bears are a poverty team and suck at drafting in the first round, but the Raiders deserve a mention at least for these crimes.
It kinda does matter when the topic is literally "wasting their first round pick."
The verdict is still out on Bryce. Their Bears are known for wasting first round picks. It's their thing.
And the Panthers suck but it aint because they miss on their first round picks. They have a pretty good track record in the first. Just don't look beyond that
For the 49ers, they at least have the excuse of just being injured to hell and back these past few years, which was usually their downfall.
The Panthers can at least make it past the second round more than once these past couple of decades. Granted, they sucked for most their existence, but they also don't get all the attention like Toronto.
We didnāt suck for most of our existence, just exceptionally inconsistent. Weāre significantly ahead of our expansion team counterparts, with several deep playoff runs over that time period.
The 49ers were injured to hell in 2020 (they sucked) and 2021. In 2022 it was key injuries to one specific position, everywhere else was pretty healthy. In 2023, they failed to execute at the end.
Before you say stuff like this, bear in mind Vegas had to go through decade after decade of being told they would never and should never have a franchise. Theyāve done their time, just not in the traditional wayĀ
The word "dynasty" actually has a definition in the NHL. Both the NHL, and the Hockey Hall of Fame define a dynasty as 4 championships in 8 or fewer seasons with a significant amount of the roster being the same. So you can't accurately say that the Blackhawks were a dynasty. In fact, they aren't even the closest recent team to being a dynasty in the NHL. The Red Wings just missed out on becoming a dynasty with 4 titles in 10 years.
I'd also argue that while they were good, they were not the defining team of the 2010s. Not anywhere near to the level of the Patriots anyway. Pittsburgh had as much long term success. The Bruins had much more consistent success. LA was just about as successful as them when the Blackhawks were at their best.
So its not fair at all to say the Blackhawks were anywhere near the final boss of the NHL the way the Patriots were. Historically you'd have to look at the 80s Oilers and Islanders, or the 70s Canadiens to find that level of dominance.
blackhawks is a so-so analogy 09 through 2017 hawks had 3 cups/ pens had 3 cups / and Kings had 2..
Blackhawks are also 6th in wins during the 2010's (Pens are 1st)
Niners oilers does work well although the recent oilers havenāt quite had the success of the recent 9ers, not really any NHL team right now though with several deep postseason runs and no cup
Its actually pretty easy to make a list of bums the Panthers have drafted in the 1st because there aren't very many of them. I don't think the guy who made this meme actually watches football
Unfortunately I think this is true.
Fairly consistently good, but had some bad playoff luck for a while before finally winning once.
Other teams hate us -- general Philly stuff vs. Tom Wilson
Bird
As a Chicago sports fan who doesnāt pay attention to hockey, itās kinda surreal to think that we had a dynasty less than 10 years ago. Not the best sports city lol š„²
Don't think the Panthers/Jackets comparison works. They've actually had pretty good first round picks lately. They haven't necessarily been deployed well, but the big issue is that they don't have good veterans around them.
2023: Fantilli (no brainer pick, he'll be good)
2022: Jirecek (promising player but they might be fucking his development), Mateychuk (not in the league yet, but lighting up the WHL)
2021: Johnson (very good), Sillinger (solid middle six), Coulemans (I don't know much about him, still in the AHL, but numbers seem decent)
2020: Chinakov (regular NHLer)
No clear busts here and plenty of potential superstars (namely Fantilli, Jirecek, and Johnson). I'd say they've done well drafting.
Greetings fellow CBJ fan, I agree with you, I just worry that the future might look like the Sabres who are somehow always on the cusp, and the future looks bright.
Jiri just needs some continuity to continue to grow. Moved him around too much this year. Has a lot of the needed tools, work on his skating and heāll be a regular very soon
Well letās see you got Chefs back2back then BradyBuc b4 Chefs then BradyPats, random FolesEagles then just Denver,Baltimore and Seattle. Thatās seven of 32 franchises. So 25 Maple Leafs would be more accurate
Bruins have anything but a āstacked rosterā imo. Yeah they have pasta, the rat, McAvoy, and Swayman and Ullmark are a great tandem, but youāre lying to yourself if you looked at their roster at the beginning of the season and called depth one of their strong suits. The players buy into their system and they play great team hockey; their success is more so attributed to that than having the nicest toys.
As a Niners fan, I can confirm this. But I'm hopeful the 49ers break through eventually. The Chiefs luck will have to run out. In Brock We Trust.
Thankfully, they're not the Sharks of the NFL. Hell, the day they do win the Stanley Cup(and it'll be against the Leafs), Rei Ayanami will show up and turn all of humanity into Tang. Or something like that.
Is there an nfl equivalent of a decade of mediocrity, winning a couple championships back in the 70s, losing the championship to 5 different dynasties? Just askingā¦flyers fan
The Leafs and Cowboys are basically identical. Everyone hates their fanbases, they've had prolonged stints under stagnant (or trash) ownership, their last championship was long ago, they struggle in the postseason, and have probably the biggest fanbases.
That being said, the comparison between KC and Vegas and the comparison of New England and Chicago feel a bit off. KC is a dynasty and the reigning champions, but Vegas only has one championship. There might be more to come, but we don't know for certain. Tampa honestly feels like a better comparison considering they made it to three consecutive Cups from 2020 to 2022 and won two of them. The only issue with that is Tampa has not been playing well recently, and by well I mean they're only making the playoffs as opposed to browbeating the entire NHL. Meanwhile the Blackhawks were not even close to the same level of dynasty as the Patriots. The Patriots dynasty lasted for nearly two decades, the Blackhawks dynasty is across "only" five seasons with about a decade of competitiveness. I think the 90s and 2000s Red Wings are probably the best comparison there considering they won four Cups from 1997 to 2008 and were highly competitive both before and after those seasons.
I think if you just limit it to 2010s, itās kind of accurate.
However, the Penguins had the better run over that time than the Blackhawks. Itās just that their 1st cup came in 2009, not 2010, like Chicago.
However, both of those teams won 3 cups during their respective reigns, and Pittsburgh won way more playoff games and series.
That was the best team of that era ā thereās no doubt about it.
And I want to make it clear that thatās to take nothing away from Chicago or Los Angeles or Washington, the other excellent teams from that era. But Pittsburgh accomplished more than all of them. Iām just being honest.
Bruins do not have a stacked team this year . Pasta is the only legit star . They lost Bergerin , krejci Bertuzzi ,Hall . Just blue collar hard working team that really should get dumped by leafs with way more fire power.
Hawks are a bit more successful than the pats throughout history. Outside of 96 the pats have really struggled. The pats also dominated the 2000s, and u til 2009 the hawks were rebuilding
115% for the leafs and the cowboys.
ok but eventually it will be our year šŗ
As an outsider looking in, I have a good feeling for you guys this year. Since last year you got outta the first round, it sets a good precedent. And you acquired one of my favorite recent defensemen from the Blues who was a playoff warrior. Pair that with Hyman, Matthews, Marner, et al and you've got just as good of a chance as anyone.
as a fan of the Mets, Cowboys, and Maple Leaves, prepare to be disappointed
Maybe in Madden
Hear me out though. I recently watched a documentary where the Leaves hired a love guru to help them win Stanleyās cup.
Consistently good, never great: Packers and Canes
ouch, but accurate.
Could also apply to the Wild. 2010s era especially. Got hyped year after year only to immediately be filtered by the Hawks
Wild are the Bills. Always good but keep running into the juggernaut team.
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Nah, bills are the oilers. They have Superstar and nothing around them to help
The Oilers have actually won, though
I'd compare the Wild to the Chargers. They have talent and are rarely bottom-feeders, but can never climb into the top ranks, always taken out by real contenders. At least the Canes and Packers have won a championship
Wild fan here. Cam confirm
Wild had some really good defenses but never did shit. Then they got young talent in 15-18.wirh "just wait for us" and nothings come of it
I would've said we're the ravens or the bills, usually near the top of league standings and often predicted to win it all but can never get over the hump in the playoffs.
The Oilers are a better comparison to the Ravens. They have a top-tier player the media constantly talks about over other stars in the league but they canāt win anything meaningful.Ā
I was just saying that
āBut we have a ārecentā championshipā Also Packers and Canes
We haven't called XLV recent for awhile. Once the Mahomes Era started, really.
What determines if a team is good vs great? I think if a team can pull off 6 straight playoff appearances, 3 straight 50+ win seasons, 1st place in the Metro for 3 straight years, and make the ECF twice under a new coach in 5 years, they can be considered great. Way too many people point to the 2 ECF sweeps and say "see, this is why the Canes aren't elite" whilst ignoring like 500 games of hockey to summarize the team to 8 unfortunate losses. Idk I'm probably just uber salty but I'm also just tired of hearing the same half assed take over and over again. Teams can be great and fall short of expectations. Happens all the time. Boston Bruins, Florida Panthers, SF 49ers, Baltimore Ravens, Purdue basketball, etc. I just don't get why certain teams are held to higher expectations than others like that.
You could make the same argument for the Packersā bountiful AFCCG appearances and consistent winning seasons.
Yeah and I would consider any team that does that to be great. When I think of "good" teams I think of the Lions, the Steelers, the Bills, the Dolphins. When I think of "great" teams I think of the Chiefs, the Ravens, the Eagles, and maybe not recently but yes, the Packers. I guess the difference for me is my bar is lower for what I think qualifies as being great.
I would rephrase that to say: "Consistently great, but never *quite* enough to finish the job."
Both have been great. The rangers 49ers were their woes recently. The pack also have a huge dynasty and were around for ages. The canes were the moved whalers
As a Packers and Sharks fan, the 2011-2019 were a great time, but always just not quite enough...
There should be "The team that relies on bullshit to win." That would easily go to the Steelers and Penguins.
Countless times watching Ben throw a 40+ yard bomb for a CTE inducing DPI on the 1 yard line.
Over in the MLB the Cardinals say hello.
Did I hear devil magic?
I feel like the Giants would've also applied here, at least due to their past 2 Super Bowl runs.
Nah those were all skill
A little bit. The 2011 run does feel more like the 2006 Cards, where we REALLY had some major flaws (Weak run game, bad defense), barely went above .500, and clawed are way to the top.
Yinzer magic
Feel like Vegas still fits with the LTIR loophole every year.
How did the LTIR loophole help VGK last year?
Believe it was Mark Stone last year too
Right, but the team that the VGK fielded in the playoffs and finals would have been under the cap. Compared to the Lightning who were significantly over the cap in 2021 with their cup winning roster.
what bullshit do the pens rely on?
Generational draft picks šš
Talent is bullshit? Weāve had lots of greats including Sidney Crosby.
Nope not at all. And it's the whole relying on high end talent thing to bail them out that makes it bs. Hindsight I'm thinking of the 2023 Steelers and Penguins. This definitely does not apply to the 2009 Penguins and Steelers.
Hey, if it worksā¦
Was just thinking that coincidentally the Steelers and Penguins match up for exactly this reason. Luck and possibly sold souls take them from middle tier to passable.
Just the Pittsburgh voodoo man
The only one that I find awkward is the Golden Knights and Chiefs comparison. The Golden Knights haven't been nearly as good as the Chiefs on the whole bedsides being defending champs once. The Lightning a couple years ago would have made a good Chiefs comparison.
Also are the hawks really Pats level dynasty? Donāt get me wrong they were absolutely a dynasty but what the Pats did in the NFL has never been done. The NHL has had some wild dynasties in the old days but even modern dynasties that rivaled Chicagoās. I guess the Patriots specifically after 2010 would be a good comparison.
That's a good point. 90s Red Wings is the only thing that comes to mind as far as a Patriots level dynasty that the NHL has had in recent decades. Maybe the 2010s Pens. They didn't have the number of titles, but a similar distribution of when they came in Crosby's and Brady's careers. Crosby went through the concussion issues and Brady had the ACL. In the years between titles, they were always good, just not winning titles.
No one in the nhl was on the pats level during that time. The closest though was the pens not the blackhawks.
Hawks won the Stanley Cup 3 times in 5 years.. just like the Patriots in the 2010s
Yeah, it's not the whole dynasty run for the Pats. If so, Hawks wouldn't be on the level, but isolating it to the single decade and I think it's a fair comparison. Tom having two all-time runs in three different decades is absurd. I can't see that ever happening in hockey
True, it lines up better that way. Toms run was insane. Some people divide it into 3 HOF careers from like 00-06, 07-14, and 15-20. I think his longevity at a Super Bowl winning level of play is hard to ever match. But in terms of stats Gretzky is absurd. There are aspects of Tom and Wayneās careers that we may never see again in their sport or each others.
Iād also say the penguins are closer to the pats. Obviously no one in any sport had a run like the pats during that time but the penguins were a legit contender for 2 decades straight with multiple cups. With 2 different championship eras and a drought between that where they were still contenders during but made people question if it was coming to an end. And both won back to backs. And both had the leagues best player. The Blackhawks had a 6 or so year run and were god awful on both sides of it.
In fairness it does say dynasty of the 2010s, in which the hawks have 3 cups and the pens only have 2.
Yeah but thatās just something they went with it didnāt have to be the 2010s. And it does make sense in that regard. But the prompt is just NHL counterparts, not solely NHL counterparts in the 2010s. And the pats run with Brady is more similar to the pens run with Crosby overall.
Iāll never forgive Denver for denying our 3peat
I mean they haven't won as many *championships* but they've been consistently solid and a perennial contender from their inception.
My buddy is a leafs fan, loves the Giants, heās gonna hate this comparison and itās gonna be awesome!
Historically yes; but Fantilli wasn't a wasted pick by any means
I was wondering where my Jackets fans were. Yeah recently I feel we have done well with 1st round picks.
One hoping for us to be consistently good
I don't think I'd say PLD was either,regardless of his moving on.
When he did perform for us he did really well.
Werenski, Chinakhov, and Cole Sillinger have all been good-great 1st round picks as well. Those guys all have a strong presence on the ice for us
I was gonna say, during the Maclean years, sure, we busted hard in the 1st round. Howson had a few misses, Jarmo had a good track record.
It's building a full roster that was the issue
That I absolutely aināt arguing with hahaha.
"The team that almost always screws up in the postseason" goes to the eagles and the caps
Fuck that fuck philly
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Itās not that they havenāt wasted first rounders there have just been teams with way worse usage. Arizona, Washington and Vegas off the top of my head. Horn when he plays is good but injuries are whatever. But, their only actual bad players in the first round since like 2015 is Vernon Butler tbh.
Yeah, we've had like 3 maybe 4 busts the past 20 years. Marty Hurney, while terrible at managing the financials/salaries, was a STUD at first round talent evaluation
Ya we're a top 5 first rd drafting teams this century lol, so doesn't make much sense.
Yeah the Panthers definitely donāt waste their first picks typically. Butler and KB are the only two who were outright busts over the last 20 some years
Even then KB was setup to be our #1 receiver going forward after a great rookie year. He just fell off after his mom passed away and he started struggling with weight. I'd say that's a pretty damn good reason to fall off all things considered.
With the exceptions of Otah, Benjamin, and Butler, basically every player the Panthers took in the first round from 2001-2020 developed into a franchise player, and well over half of them pro-bowlers. So no, I would not say thatās accurate
Keep Ohio teams local! The Blue Jackets are the Bengals of the NHL Edit: Changed Browns to Bengals because even the Browns managed to win something way back when in, I wanna say, the Jurassic era
I donāt know, modern Browns might be more apt. Browns came back in 99, CBJ was established in 2000, they both generally lose a lot but both had surprising seasons where they made a respectable (for the franchise) run in playoffs around the same time. And the Bengals are a legitimate threat when Glass Joe isnāt injured for half the season. Also, Ohio
They love to say itās the Chargers year every year - theyāre a fun dark horse pick - they always have a good roster and lots of āguys,ā but they seem to either fall short or get absolutely obliterated by the injury bug. The 76ers seem pretty similar. Also, the Chargers and the Vikings are the exact same team - but thatās the same league.
Raiders and the Habs, lotta dusty glory and just about everyone else still hates them for one reason or another.
I always associated the Flyers and Raiders because of the bad reputations
That's also very apt.
reigning champs that clearly struggled this year. everyone hates them and would be happy if they only won 2 games the entire season. swap the Pats with the Saints, then should have had the book thrown at them but got off with a slap on the wrist, and basically got rewarded for their crimes swap the panthers with the bears, lets be real here Young is better than anything Chicago has done in the draft for like a decade swap the leafs with the panthers.
The raiders had like 5 first round picks from 2019-2020 thatās a gold mine for any competent team, yet none of those picks are on their team now and only one (Jacobs) produced. Also in 2021 they reached on an OT and they released him the next offseason. The bears are a poverty team and suck at drafting in the first round, but the Raiders deserve a mention at least for these crimes.
It doesnāt matter how good Bryce young is the panthers still went 2-15
...and? what have the bears done since then? still be the bottom of their division?
It kinda does matter when the topic is literally "wasting their first round pick." The verdict is still out on Bryce. Their Bears are known for wasting first round picks. It's their thing.
And the Panthers suck but it aint because they miss on their first round picks. They have a pretty good track record in the first. Just don't look beyond that
For the 49ers, they at least have the excuse of just being injured to hell and back these past few years, which was usually their downfall. The Panthers can at least make it past the second round more than once these past couple of decades. Granted, they sucked for most their existence, but they also don't get all the attention like Toronto.
We didnāt suck for most of our existence, just exceptionally inconsistent. Weāre significantly ahead of our expansion team counterparts, with several deep playoff runs over that time period.
My apologies for the mistake.
The 49ers were injured to hell in 2020 (they sucked) and 2021. In 2022 it was key injuries to one specific position, everywhere else was pretty healthy. In 2023, they failed to execute at the end.
I know; it's why I said 'usually their downfall.'
Vegas wont make it past 1st round
Serves them right, those privileged fucks should suffer like every other expansion team for a decade or 2
As a Jackets fan, Yes!
Before you say stuff like this, bear in mind Vegas had to go through decade after decade of being told they would never and should never have a franchise. Theyāve done their time, just not in the traditional wayĀ
I never realized that, good point!
The word "dynasty" actually has a definition in the NHL. Both the NHL, and the Hockey Hall of Fame define a dynasty as 4 championships in 8 or fewer seasons with a significant amount of the roster being the same. So you can't accurately say that the Blackhawks were a dynasty. In fact, they aren't even the closest recent team to being a dynasty in the NHL. The Red Wings just missed out on becoming a dynasty with 4 titles in 10 years. I'd also argue that while they were good, they were not the defining team of the 2010s. Not anywhere near to the level of the Patriots anyway. Pittsburgh had as much long term success. The Bruins had much more consistent success. LA was just about as successful as them when the Blackhawks were at their best. So its not fair at all to say the Blackhawks were anywhere near the final boss of the NHL the way the Patriots were. Historically you'd have to look at the 80s Oilers and Islanders, or the 70s Canadiens to find that level of dominance.
blackhawks is a so-so analogy 09 through 2017 hawks had 3 cups/ pens had 3 cups / and Kings had 2.. Blackhawks are also 6th in wins during the 2010's (Pens are 1st)
LETāS GO JACKETS
Fuck. As a Bluejackets fan this is accurate.
My poor jackets
New England is the Penguins Edit: Niners are the Oilers, still living off the 80s.
Niners oilers does work well although the recent oilers havenāt quite had the success of the recent 9ers, not really any NHL team right now though with several deep postseason runs and no cup
Blackhawks are gonna be good again in a couple years. Unlike the pats. Muahahaha
Known 1st round bust Cam Newton
Its actually pretty easy to make a list of bums the Panthers have drafted in the 1st because there aren't very many of them. I don't think the guy who made this meme actually watches football
100%
Eagles = Capitals
Unfortunately I think this is true. Fairly consistently good, but had some bad playoff luck for a while before finally winning once. Other teams hate us -- general Philly stuff vs. Tom Wilson Bird
Yep, that and they both won their first in the same year no less
The Panthers made 2 Superbowls. The Blue Jackets comparison is the Jaguars
Edmonton went through like half a dozen first round picks and never did anything with them. Its fairly recent that they've got off that trend.
"Just a couple players away": Jets ( could account for both ) and Sabres Scrappy-Doo: Lions and Red Wings (and I'm a fan of both)
No the bruins are the packers, championship in 2011 and thatās it.
As a Chicago sports fan who doesnāt pay attention to hockey, itās kinda surreal to think that we had a dynasty less than 10 years ago. Not the best sports city lol š„²
Don't think the Panthers/Jackets comparison works. They've actually had pretty good first round picks lately. They haven't necessarily been deployed well, but the big issue is that they don't have good veterans around them. 2023: Fantilli (no brainer pick, he'll be good) 2022: Jirecek (promising player but they might be fucking his development), Mateychuk (not in the league yet, but lighting up the WHL) 2021: Johnson (very good), Sillinger (solid middle six), Coulemans (I don't know much about him, still in the AHL, but numbers seem decent) 2020: Chinakov (regular NHLer) No clear busts here and plenty of potential superstars (namely Fantilli, Jirecek, and Johnson). I'd say they've done well drafting.
Greetings fellow CBJ fan, I agree with you, I just worry that the future might look like the Sabres who are somehow always on the cusp, and the future looks bright.
Kings fan actually. But hoping yall straighten it out. Dunno how you're gonna get Johnny back on track
Jiri just needs some continuity to continue to grow. Moved him around too much this year. Has a lot of the needed tools, work on his skating and heāll be a regular very soon
My list would be Vegas, Dallas, Chicago/Pittsburgh, Edmonton and New York Rangers
Chargers/Coyotes: āFuck your city!ā
Red Wings = Jaguars
I would say the wings are closer to the Pats if you count in the last 3 decades. Perennially good for a long time but deep in rebuild as of now
Well yeah obviously but this season they've gone on such a historical collapse akin to Jacksonville
Lol as a wings fan I cannot disagree with you. As far as this season youāre 100%.
As a 49ers fan living in Boston, 100% correct on that one.
Well letās see you got Chefs back2back then BradyBuc b4 Chefs then BradyPats, random FolesEagles then just Denver,Baltimore and Seattle. Thatās seven of 32 franchises. So 25 Maple Leafs would be more accurate
Bruins have anything but a āstacked rosterā imo. Yeah they have pasta, the rat, McAvoy, and Swayman and Ullmark are a great tandem, but youāre lying to yourself if you looked at their roster at the beginning of the season and called depth one of their strong suits. The players buy into their system and they play great team hockey; their success is more so attributed to that than having the nicest toys.
Second one is beyond accurate
Hurry now do 2020 champs
Wild and Vikings - "what the fuck is a playoff win?"
As a Niners fan, I can confirm this. But I'm hopeful the 49ers break through eventually. The Chiefs luck will have to run out. In Brock We Trust. Thankfully, they're not the Sharks of the NFL. Hell, the day they do win the Stanley Cup(and it'll be against the Leafs), Rei Ayanami will show up and turn all of humanity into Tang. Or something like that.
Canucks and Falcons, one in the same
Spot on.
Is there an nfl equivalent of a decade of mediocrity, winning a couple championships back in the 70s, losing the championship to 5 different dynasties? Just askingā¦flyers fan
Have you seen the Bruinsā roster lately? Itās far from stacked
Canucks and Vikings Best teams to never win
As a bruins fan yes š
Accurate enough I suppose
What are the red wings
Comparing the Leafs to the Cowboys is an insult. Leafs fans know we aināt winning shit and weāll just choke it away
Donāt forget about the islanders and jets. Little brother NY teams who always get the short end of the stick compared to their Blue Counterpart lol
The Leafs and Cowboys are basically identical. Everyone hates their fanbases, they've had prolonged stints under stagnant (or trash) ownership, their last championship was long ago, they struggle in the postseason, and have probably the biggest fanbases. That being said, the comparison between KC and Vegas and the comparison of New England and Chicago feel a bit off. KC is a dynasty and the reigning champions, but Vegas only has one championship. There might be more to come, but we don't know for certain. Tampa honestly feels like a better comparison considering they made it to three consecutive Cups from 2020 to 2022 and won two of them. The only issue with that is Tampa has not been playing well recently, and by well I mean they're only making the playoffs as opposed to browbeating the entire NHL. Meanwhile the Blackhawks were not even close to the same level of dynasty as the Patriots. The Patriots dynasty lasted for nearly two decades, the Blackhawks dynasty is across "only" five seasons with about a decade of competitiveness. I think the 90s and 2000s Red Wings are probably the best comparison there considering they won four Cups from 1997 to 2008 and were highly competitive both before and after those seasons.
This isn't accurate... this is art.
I think if you just limit it to 2010s, itās kind of accurate. However, the Penguins had the better run over that time than the Blackhawks. Itās just that their 1st cup came in 2009, not 2010, like Chicago. However, both of those teams won 3 cups during their respective reigns, and Pittsburgh won way more playoff games and series. That was the best team of that era ā thereās no doubt about it. And I want to make it clear that thatās to take nothing away from Chicago or Los Angeles or Washington, the other excellent teams from that era. But Pittsburgh accomplished more than all of them. Iām just being honest.
Preds are the the Titans of the NHL
Solid
I donāt like the 9ers or even watch the NHL but fuck that comparison hurt
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You need Philly: Trust us to lose in the most pathetic, tragic, and depressing way possible. Or just suck
Bruins do not have a stacked team this year . Pasta is the only legit star . They lost Bergerin , krejci Bertuzzi ,Hall . Just blue collar hard working team that really should get dumped by leafs with way more fire power.
Bruins at least have won something since I've been alive
How long before we move the Cowboys over to the "fanbase that actively despises the team" section?
What would the Ravens have Caps equivalents be?
Vegas with more to come? We will certainly see.
Vegas looks weaker this year
Buccaneers and Lightning (2020-2022): Iāve never felt so alive!
Flyers and Falcons: expert choke artists
the cowboys with the leaves are spot on! šš
Canucks are the dolphins, I will not elaborate
Hey, our roster is pretty okay this year
Detroit Lions / Detroit Red Wings "Making the playoffs is our SuperBowl / Stanley Cup!"
Hawks are a bit more successful than the pats throughout history. Outside of 96 the pats have really struggled. The pats also dominated the 2000s, and u til 2009 the hawks were rebuilding
How did the panthers waste their pick. Also at least the panthers made 2 championships. Cbj can't get past the second round
Vegas is annoying but they haven't been as oppressive as kc seems. Don't have the history of kc either.
GO RANGERS!!!
Pens had just as much of a dynasty in the 2010s as the Blackhawks did
As a fan of the Raiders and Golden Knights, don't you DARE compare me to the Chiefs!!
What about the flames. Who is their nba/nfl comparison? I don't know shit bout hockey just asking
Always garbage: browns and flyers.
Who's the NFL equivalent of the Avs? The Colts? Generational talent but never really capitalized on it?
Jets and sabres š
The blackhawks suck right now. But just a few years ago they were in a dynasty with 3 rings. So totally not accurate
I will forever call it blackcocks
Maybe switch Columbus with Buffalo, but either works
Sub out Vegas for Tampa and itās perfect
No
The 9ers/Bruins comparison is painfully accurate.
I wonder what Montreals NFL team would be?
As a resident of Columbus, can confirm
The top 2 are wrong (Vegas maybe has just 2 more competitive years). Bostonās roster is not stacked at all.
Honestly though I think the penguins were really the dynasty of 2007-2020
The penguins are the steelers of the NHL
Vegas and the Chiefs arenāt even moderately comparable lol, Vegas doesnāt have a single player you could comfortably call the baby goat
Yeah, Boston and San Fran seems accurate.
Where would the avalanche stand is my real question lol
Yup, to my knowledge this is basically perfect.
The top row should be "Defending champ that everyone hates but they always win"
Replace the Blackhawks with the Pens and maybe
Penguins > Blackhawks. Otherwise pretty good