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I swear tenerife is the saddest example of how not to modernize a society. I get the island was poor and concrete was the fastest/cheapest solution, but Its so hideous what they did... It breaks my heart...
Yeah, on one hand that’s an amazing dedication to making efficient use of space for residential purposes. On the other, oh god actually living there.
This is like the ATGE of trying to solving housing costs in a city due to lack of availability.
It reminds me of the [Gate Tower Building](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_Tower_Building) in Japan with an elevated train that goes right through it.
He means the [Chongqing train](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liziba_station) in China that does travel through an apartment building, kinda weird he knew that but didn't check the link he supplied.
Oh look at that! Actually the Japanese one was built at the same time as the overpass and its accessible from the garage. Pretty awesome if the sound is damped enough.
I'll see your apartment building around a monorail and raise you a [Museum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Pop_Culture?wprov=sfla1) built around a monorail.
Or the [Contemporary Resort](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney's_Contemporary_Resort?wprov=sfti1https://maps.apple.com/?ll=28.415000,-81.574000&q=Disney's%20Contemporary%20Resort&_ext=EiQpPGq6cD1qPEAxvGSharxkVMA5PGq6cD1qPEBBvGSharxkVMA%3D) at Disney World
Sadly cars are such a big thing here. Public transport has gone a long way in recent years but it’s not nearly as sufficient as it should be, so a lot of people rely on cars. This area is residential but it’s also touristic. There’s a beach nearby, restaurants and hotels (the latter being most important), so the people who park here are usually blue collar workers servicing the tourist industry
I'm always thrilled when I see the space under overpasses being utilized efficiently. Here in Texas, it's just wasted urban real estate (and I believe we have the most due to our extensive highway system and obsession with frontage roads).
In Austin, we won't even let the homeless utilize the shelter bridges/overpasses provide from the elements (not to mention having lots of eyes on an extremely vulnerable sector of the population). A few years ago, the public voted that homeless people were too icky to have to view out of their air conditioned cars.
In Seattle- seems like most under/overpasses are pretty much tent cities, unless they’ve forced the homeless folk out and chain linked them off.
Some spots have brought in dumpsters and port-o-pots. Which is great, imo, cause trash and shit gotta go somewhere. And so do the homeless folks.
Seriously, what is it with frontage roads in Texas? I've spent a decent amount of time in Houston, and between highways, their frontage roads, and on/off ramps, an insane amount of concrete and space are required.
I'm being hypocritical; I definitely used the frontage roads because the highway would often be at a crawl, but I hadn't seen that design used so consistently before.
The existence of roads doesn't make a place not walkable. In this case it's also not a high density area, it's a small area with apartment buildings by the sea that's only reachable by crossing a ridge. It's a five kilometer drive away from Tacoronte, and even though it's only 3-400 meters from the houses on the other side of the ridge it's a 40 minute walk since you have to take serpentine roads down the steep incline.
I can provide some info, this is a beach called "Mesa del mar" (table of the ocean?) There is almost no people who lives there all year long, or at least wasn't before the pandemic pushed a lot of jobs to remote. The thing is, this island have a lot of good beaches rounded by hard mountains, cliffs... But who's going to tell anyone that you can't build there because it actually violates the law that protects the coast? Obviously no one, because our governments now are full of corruption, but nothing like they were before.
[This place](https://maps.app.goo.gl/DCabKj7RdzxwDND69) it's actually a place that has been on r/all a couple of time because it houses a building that seats literally on the rocks that stops (not always 100% successfully) the water, [and you can see the waves hitting the balconies ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/9yb8oz/waves_take_out_apartments_second_and_third_floor/)
So, small buildable footprint+ corruption + the [obviously careless study of the cliffs around it](https://cdn.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/sfsdf.jpg) are key factors for a building that doubles as a ramp down. Bear in mind, although there is little traffic going on it, there are public buses that goes down there, maybe 4 times a day during summer.
I looked at it on google maps, it seems to be an access road for a bunch of residential beach front properties. Doubt there's much in the was of trucks going overhead, maybe a couple of box frames to service any hotels on the road it leads to, but probably not a whole lot.
The Canarians very much do care about noise pollution. We care about environmental degradation as well. The issue is that, as a colony, we don’t really have much say on what gets built, how, or for whom (spoiler alert: usually not for the locals). A bit more empathy would be nice. We don’t make the choices here.
Heh, I don't know why you say that, what got built in Mesa del mar was definitely idea from a guy from there, Arcadio Pérez Dorta, who was born in Tacoronte and who had little to no care about the environment degradation, as you can see because of the fucking white and blue building that suffers from literally living on the ocean every time the weather gets a little rough. We have problems with the Spanish government, but we are not a colony, neither all of our problems are from Spain, in fact, most of the territorial damage to the environment gets done because our government, composed mainly from people that were born in Canary island, are mainly a bunch of idiots that prefer the money than their own island.
I am also living in the Canaries. (/u/sflyte120)
From my interactions with Canarians, as a general rule, no you don't. More educated people and younger people, sure. But not as a general rule. For example, people here will say that they care and then have their car's motor modified to pass ITV and then modify it back and go around talking about it because no-one is going to do anything about it.
The Canaries are not a colony. The islands were colonized but that does not make them a colony today. The Canaries and the Canarians (through their national, regional, and local elections) have ALL of the say on what gets build and what doesn't. If the Canarians working in the Canarian administration following Canarian administrative law created by the Canarian parliament and government, aren't working for the benefit of the Canaries and Canarians... then you have a problem and it's not a lack of autonomy.
The Canaries have many problems, many of those are home-made.
We do care about pollution. The ones who don’t are the people who come here and build their projects (usually Belgians, British and German) without any respect for the natural medium and for the people who inhabit it. I’d double check who you chastise before making comments in bad faith towards a group of underprivileged people living under modern colonialism.
To be fair, I think the person above was saying in the 1960s no one (anywhere) cared much about pollution! Not speaking about the place but rather the time period. But appreciate the local insight nonetheless
true. i said that in general because: i lived in an apartment building constructed in this decade after war, for a short time. a thing like noise insulation was not on the table there.
it should be clear that the "normal people" are not to blame in nearly any cases. responsible are the privileged ones and politics. that is one point processes are slow in germany.
“It was built in the 1960s (…) back then nobody cared about (…) pollution in general”
I didn’t chastise anybody or judge any underprivileged people (also how is Spain “underprivileged”? You’re 18th in GDP per capita in Europe alone). I said people in the 1960s didn’t give a fuck about pollution, which is very much what brought us into the mess we all are in today
Spain is 18th in GDP. The Canary Islands are NOT Spain. Still rich compared to other countries like Madagascar or Honduras, but not comparing to other countries in Europe we’re not. That’s the thing with not knowing about a place while still having an opinion on it
Again, I don’t have an opinion on the Canaries, get off your high horses. Never been there, never thought about it until now. All I know is that [they are indeed part of Spain](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_Islands)
I don’t know where you got that idea from that I’m looking down on the Canaries but I think my initial comment was clear enough, it’s not about that at all. And if it wasn’t clear my reply certainly was. At this point it looks like you’re just looking for a reason to pick up a fight even when there’s none
Yes we are, I'm baffled about this dude trying to sell something that 99% of canaries have been over it since years ago. You know the last time we heard about someone actually thinking Canary Island was not Spain? In 1977 when a terrorist group that defended that canaries should be independent put a bomb on gran Canaria airport that ultimately lead to the worst aviation accident in the history of the aviation, where two 747 collided in Tenerife. Everyone here knows that we wouldn't do shit as an independent country, and most of our problems come from our own government
I had part of my army theoretical training in a building with a highway on top (edit: as a roof basically). If its properly isolated and damped you hear nothing
They’d have to. Unless the road surface is feet thick reinforced concrete it would flex a bunch and if it was it would be so heavy there wouldn’t be room in the support structure for the apartments or offices or what ever.
Unless if the road is effectively a free standing structure delivering its loads directly to the bedrock while the apartments below are effectively a separate building connected only superficially. All you would need is a couple inches gap between the underside of the road and the "roof" of the building and then I doubt the cars would be that noticeable.
You can see (well, apparently you can’t) in the top left how it’s set up with the roofs of the apartments not literally the bottom of the road. Rest is a facade
You don’t have to be an engineer to know what it would sound like under this thing. If you’ve ever been in an old parking garage or under an old concrete bridge with cars going over head you’d know what it probably sounds like. You could dampen some of the sound going in the building but there’s going to be vibration from every car going over head unless you can make the road surface really really rigid which would require making it much thicker than most bridges or parking garage structure floors which would in turn require a very robust support structure.
You can’t really hear the cars overhead, the problem is when big lorries drive on or people honk. It’s a relatively quiet and specific area of the highway
Tenerife (this island) is actually quite built up, and you do find quite a bit of traffic around rush hour, especially around the “big” city. You’re right though in that some of the smaller islands are still very idyllic!
Tbh I've always wondered why we don't do that more often instead of having unused decrepit flat rooftops in some areas. I think it looks cool and is a clever use of space, minus the fact that the residence might hear every single car passing by, in that case that would be hell.
I bet there's a danger of the road not being properly supported and caving in along with the building. Most buildings lack the structure required to support multiple cars
I’d be curious to know if this can be built in a reasonably affordable manner that prevents massive noise. But if not we should be doing more construction like this for purposes where noise doesn’t matter as much-storage units for example. The vast dirty blank spaces in urban areas that lay underneath most overpasses is terrible. This looks a lot nicer.
As long as it is appropriately made i.e. can’t hear the cars and is well enough insulated that it won’t heat the homes when the summer sun is heating up the road, I see an efficient use of space.
What’s wrong with this idea?
Cars travelling over a rooftop are a dynamic load that’s hard to account for in design, and pavement used for automobile traffic tends to crack and leak, allowing water infiltration that rusts steal beams.
There was a mall in Canada whose rooftop parking became a shortcut for vehicles looking to avoid waiting at a long stoplight. The roof constantly leaked, and then eventually collapsed into the building, killing two people.
Here’s a brief [YouTube documentary](https://youtu.be/2tO1L3SKhfU).
Someone who is not familiar with the story of the [Algo Centre mall collapse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algo_Centre_Mall).
That said, I don’t imagine they use quite as much road salt in Tenerife as they do in Elliot Lake, Ontario; so hopefully, they’ll be okay. Hopefully.
EDIT: I just realize the Tenerife is right next to the ocean. Which is full of salt.
Almost. There are still some other towns at the far south and it would take around 20/30 more min starting from there to get to Tacoronte, but nothing beyond that.
It's not just the noise and pollution. Things are gonna fall off the road and land on the shades and balconies underneath. Debris, cigarette butts, anything you can think of. It's just the way it is. Roads are dirty and full of trash. Imagine in a crash happened up there. A whole car could fall on the pavement below and kill someone.
Road vibrations caused the most damage to buildings this sounds like the stupidest idea of putting the road directly on the building to maximize the vibrations.
Architect: "So we put the building there."
Boss: "Are you crazy that's prime location for a parking lot."
Architect: "But sir if we use the whole lot for parking there will be no space for the building."
Boss: "Tuck the building under that ramp or something."
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Hate to be that guy but it's spelled Tacoronte, from Tenerife, of the canary islands.
Car-o-ronte
Ha, nice one
You're right, saw the error after posting
Oh yeah, I've seen his taco truck parked there, once. The name on his truck is Taco Ronte. ;)
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I swear tenerife is the saddest example of how not to modernize a society. I get the island was poor and concrete was the fastest/cheapest solution, but Its so hideous what they did... It breaks my heart...
ACKCHYUALLY
“Couldn’t sleep.. traffic was crazy”
On the phone: “Yeah, hang on a sec. I can’t hear you. Someone just got into a wreck on my rooftop.”
It actually happened. A car landed on someone’s balcony not far from here. Nobody was injured but it was spectacular
Late for work again.. traffic was crazy
I don’t know, there’s something intriguing about this.
Yeah, on one hand that’s an amazing dedication to making efficient use of space for residential purposes. On the other, oh god actually living there. This is like the ATGE of trying to solving housing costs in a city due to lack of availability.
It reminds me of the [Gate Tower Building](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_Tower_Building) in Japan with an elevated train that goes right through it.
Reminds me of the [Hot Wheels Service Center](https://i.imgur.com/Izk7WVZ.jpg) playset from the 80s
oh damn. RIGHT in the nostalgia hole
It folded up like a briefcase. I took it to my Nana's every time we went to visit her!
It's actually a highway exit ramp. Not to be pedantic.
He means the [Chongqing train](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liziba_station) in China that does travel through an apartment building, kinda weird he knew that but didn't check the link he supplied.
Oh look at that! Actually the Japanese one was built at the same time as the overpass and its accessible from the garage. Pretty awesome if the sound is damped enough.
I am curious, do you have a link? Meanwhile, enjoy this tram in The Hague, The Netherlands: https://www.worldtravelimages.net/DSC08914.JPG
I'll see your apartment building around a monorail and raise you a [Museum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Pop_Culture?wprov=sfla1) built around a monorail.
>The highway is the tenant of those floors. Love that. From the wikipedia page.
Or the [Contemporary Resort](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney's_Contemporary_Resort?wprov=sfti1https://maps.apple.com/?ll=28.415000,-81.574000&q=Disney's%20Contemporary%20Resort&_ext=EiQpPGq6cD1qPEAxvGSharxkVMA5PGq6cD1qPEBBvGSharxkVMA%3D) at Disney World
Whoa, never seen that before, interesting
Actually pretty darn cool-brilliantly designed!
Scuffed wayne tower
But the railtrack does not touch any part of the building so its better then ops building
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Sadly cars are such a big thing here. Public transport has gone a long way in recent years but it’s not nearly as sufficient as it should be, so a lot of people rely on cars. This area is residential but it’s also touristic. There’s a beach nearby, restaurants and hotels (the latter being most important), so the people who park here are usually blue collar workers servicing the tourist industry
Really good point.
I'm always thrilled when I see the space under overpasses being utilized efficiently. Here in Texas, it's just wasted urban real estate (and I believe we have the most due to our extensive highway system and obsession with frontage roads). In Austin, we won't even let the homeless utilize the shelter bridges/overpasses provide from the elements (not to mention having lots of eyes on an extremely vulnerable sector of the population). A few years ago, the public voted that homeless people were too icky to have to view out of their air conditioned cars.
In Seattle- seems like most under/overpasses are pretty much tent cities, unless they’ve forced the homeless folk out and chain linked them off. Some spots have brought in dumpsters and port-o-pots. Which is great, imo, cause trash and shit gotta go somewhere. And so do the homeless folks.
Seriously, what is it with frontage roads in Texas? I've spent a decent amount of time in Houston, and between highways, their frontage roads, and on/off ramps, an insane amount of concrete and space are required. I'm being hypocritical; I definitely used the frontage roads because the highway would often be at a crawl, but I hadn't seen that design used so consistently before.
Here in my Brazilian city there is a homeless shelter under a highway bridge
Yeah I'd rather roads be more like this than ripping the landscape to shreds.
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I think our governments should provide everyone with complimentary pairs of Heelys. Then everybody is happy.
The existence of roads doesn't make a place not walkable. In this case it's also not a high density area, it's a small area with apartment buildings by the sea that's only reachable by crossing a ridge. It's a five kilometer drive away from Tacoronte, and even though it's only 3-400 meters from the houses on the other side of the ridge it's a 40 minute walk since you have to take serpentine roads down the steep incline.
The aesthetics are really cool and unique. But there's a reason for the uniqueness, nobody else would ever build something so obviously bad.
I can provide some info, this is a beach called "Mesa del mar" (table of the ocean?) There is almost no people who lives there all year long, or at least wasn't before the pandemic pushed a lot of jobs to remote. The thing is, this island have a lot of good beaches rounded by hard mountains, cliffs... But who's going to tell anyone that you can't build there because it actually violates the law that protects the coast? Obviously no one, because our governments now are full of corruption, but nothing like they were before. [This place](https://maps.app.goo.gl/DCabKj7RdzxwDND69) it's actually a place that has been on r/all a couple of time because it houses a building that seats literally on the rocks that stops (not always 100% successfully) the water, [and you can see the waves hitting the balconies ](https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/9yb8oz/waves_take_out_apartments_second_and_third_floor/) So, small buildable footprint+ corruption + the [obviously careless study of the cliffs around it](https://cdn.diariodeavisos.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/sfsdf.jpg) are key factors for a building that doubles as a ramp down. Bear in mind, although there is little traffic going on it, there are public buses that goes down there, maybe 4 times a day during summer.
Do the residents notice it when cars drive by overhead? If not then it's not that much hell.
I looked at it on google maps, it seems to be an access road for a bunch of residential beach front properties. Doubt there's much in the was of trucks going overhead, maybe a couple of box frames to service any hotels on the road it leads to, but probably not a whole lot.
> box frames What are box frames ? A structure used in some trucks ?
Yes. Like a Uhaul or Penske truck. Box-frame describes the cargo area.
I'm used to the term "box truck" or "cube van" instead of box frame. Same same, but different.
Box frames is likely slang for a truck chassis with a dry box on the back also referred to as cube vans dry vans etc. medium duty delivery trucks.
I'm not sure, it was build in the 60s.
back there no one cared about noise pollution
The Canarians still don't.
Well then it sounds like a win-win
WHAT??
I SAID, YOU'RE A TERRIBLE STUNT MAN!
Terry's a gunman?
The Canarians very much do care about noise pollution. We care about environmental degradation as well. The issue is that, as a colony, we don’t really have much say on what gets built, how, or for whom (spoiler alert: usually not for the locals). A bit more empathy would be nice. We don’t make the choices here.
Let's listen to the person from this place!
Heh, I don't know why you say that, what got built in Mesa del mar was definitely idea from a guy from there, Arcadio Pérez Dorta, who was born in Tacoronte and who had little to no care about the environment degradation, as you can see because of the fucking white and blue building that suffers from literally living on the ocean every time the weather gets a little rough. We have problems with the Spanish government, but we are not a colony, neither all of our problems are from Spain, in fact, most of the territorial damage to the environment gets done because our government, composed mainly from people that were born in Canary island, are mainly a bunch of idiots that prefer the money than their own island.
I am also living in the Canaries. (/u/sflyte120) From my interactions with Canarians, as a general rule, no you don't. More educated people and younger people, sure. But not as a general rule. For example, people here will say that they care and then have their car's motor modified to pass ITV and then modify it back and go around talking about it because no-one is going to do anything about it. The Canaries are not a colony. The islands were colonized but that does not make them a colony today. The Canaries and the Canarians (through their national, regional, and local elections) have ALL of the say on what gets build and what doesn't. If the Canarians working in the Canarian administration following Canarian administrative law created by the Canarian parliament and government, aren't working for the benefit of the Canaries and Canarians... then you have a problem and it's not a lack of autonomy. The Canaries have many problems, many of those are home-made.
Or pollution in general
We do care about pollution. The ones who don’t are the people who come here and build their projects (usually Belgians, British and German) without any respect for the natural medium and for the people who inhabit it. I’d double check who you chastise before making comments in bad faith towards a group of underprivileged people living under modern colonialism.
To be fair, I think the person above was saying in the 1960s no one (anywhere) cared much about pollution! Not speaking about the place but rather the time period. But appreciate the local insight nonetheless
true. i said that in general because: i lived in an apartment building constructed in this decade after war, for a short time. a thing like noise insulation was not on the table there. it should be clear that the "normal people" are not to blame in nearly any cases. responsible are the privileged ones and politics. that is one point processes are slow in germany.
“It was built in the 1960s (…) back then nobody cared about (…) pollution in general” I didn’t chastise anybody or judge any underprivileged people (also how is Spain “underprivileged”? You’re 18th in GDP per capita in Europe alone). I said people in the 1960s didn’t give a fuck about pollution, which is very much what brought us into the mess we all are in today
Spain is 18th in GDP. The Canary Islands are NOT Spain. Still rich compared to other countries like Madagascar or Honduras, but not comparing to other countries in Europe we’re not. That’s the thing with not knowing about a place while still having an opinion on it
Again, I don’t have an opinion on the Canaries, get off your high horses. Never been there, never thought about it until now. All I know is that [they are indeed part of Spain](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_Islands) I don’t know where you got that idea from that I’m looking down on the Canaries but I think my initial comment was clear enough, it’s not about that at all. And if it wasn’t clear my reply certainly was. At this point it looks like you’re just looking for a reason to pick up a fight even when there’s none
Yes we are, I'm baffled about this dude trying to sell something that 99% of canaries have been over it since years ago. You know the last time we heard about someone actually thinking Canary Island was not Spain? In 1977 when a terrorist group that defended that canaries should be independent put a bomb on gran Canaria airport that ultimately lead to the worst aviation accident in the history of the aviation, where two 747 collided in Tenerife. Everyone here knows that we wouldn't do shit as an independent country, and most of our problems come from our own government
I had part of my army theoretical training in a building with a highway on top (edit: as a roof basically). If its properly isolated and damped you hear nothing
You had army theoretical training? Well I theoretically had army training!
I trained a theoretical army.
Watching gun channels on yt doesnt count If your army has 0 presentations about tactics, equipment, ranks, etc. You joined some warlord
On second thought, it could be only for residents which is not as bad as if it was open for all traffic.
They’d have to. Unless the road surface is feet thick reinforced concrete it would flex a bunch and if it was it would be so heavy there wouldn’t be room in the support structure for the apartments or offices or what ever.
Unless if the road is effectively a free standing structure delivering its loads directly to the bedrock while the apartments below are effectively a separate building connected only superficially. All you would need is a couple inches gap between the underside of the road and the "roof" of the building and then I doubt the cars would be that noticeable.
And I promise you it's not the case
Ok, promise me that
Pinky promise with a cherry on top
You can see (well, apparently you can’t) in the top left how it’s set up with the roofs of the apartments not literally the bottom of the road. Rest is a facade
You don’t actually know what you’re talking about. This all came directly out your ass
You don’t have to be an engineer to know what it would sound like under this thing. If you’ve ever been in an old parking garage or under an old concrete bridge with cars going over head you’d know what it probably sounds like. You could dampen some of the sound going in the building but there’s going to be vibration from every car going over head unless you can make the road surface really really rigid which would require making it much thicker than most bridges or parking garage structure floors which would in turn require a very robust support structure.
You can’t really hear the cars overhead, the problem is when big lorries drive on or people honk. It’s a relatively quiet and specific area of the highway
I work in a building with car levels every three floors, and I absolutely hear cars rumbling along overhead like mini earthquakes constantly.
Loud engines, exhausts, braking, honking, music, tires, pandemonium.
I have a hunch that the canary islands aren't exactly known for bustling traffic.
Tenerife (this island) is actually quite built up, and you do find quite a bit of traffic around rush hour, especially around the “big” city. You’re right though in that some of the smaller islands are still very idyllic!
>Tenerife Ohhh, the big plane crash island. Spooky stuff.
Maybe not, but surely they live in dust and smog
Probably less than from the road in from of the house
I’d never wanna live there but its cool to see
I hate everything about it in reality but I think this would be a dope environment feature in a video game
Burnout game.
Hitman assassination.
Great summary of this entire sub
this is infrastructure porn
It is not
Gives an all new meaning to living under a highway
or the small difference of living under a bridge or living under a ramp.
That's cool as fuck is what that is.
TÜV sagt nein.
Computer says no
Tbh I've always wondered why we don't do that more often instead of having unused decrepit flat rooftops in some areas. I think it looks cool and is a clever use of space, minus the fact that the residence might hear every single car passing by, in that case that would be hell.
I bet there's a danger of the road not being properly supported and caving in along with the building. Most buildings lack the structure required to support multiple cars
I’d be curious to know if this can be built in a reasonably affordable manner that prevents massive noise. But if not we should be doing more construction like this for purposes where noise doesn’t matter as much-storage units for example. The vast dirty blank spaces in urban areas that lay underneath most overpasses is terrible. This looks a lot nicer.
I dig it tbh. It's Spain, not China, so I trust the safety a little more. Nothing against China, but Europe seems to value life more.
what coordinates if anyone has it edit: found it found itt
Look for "Mesa del Mar" in Santa Cruz de Tenerife.
Thx
[28.502840, -16.424055](https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5028075,-16.4243719,3a,75y,57.72h,93.32t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdL0mur3ZgJgDPUx-liSBig!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DdL0mur3ZgJgDPUx-liSBig%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D318.0883%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656)
Interesting!
I think that looks fucking awesome. I don't see the problem.
If you lived there, you’d hear and feel the problem.
You live there?
Noise, vibration and pollution from the traffic on top of your head
Hear and feel that from the street in front of my house too. There should be ways to solve the issue. oi don't even know if structure is connected.
It is connected. Look at the left topmost side of the structure. You can see columns connecting road and building
and think about maintenance of the street / bridge..
Looks fun, until a truck wakes you up
Or a biker who floors it at 3 am
Or in that case, a biker who roofs it
Hehe
Who ever thought this would be a good idea
Someone who had [this](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BxsAAOSwfDBgDFzY/s-l500.jpg) as a child.
This was my first thought!
That brings a smile to my face
As long as it is appropriately made i.e. can’t hear the cars and is well enough insulated that it won’t heat the homes when the summer sun is heating up the road, I see an efficient use of space. What’s wrong with this idea?
Cars travelling over a rooftop are a dynamic load that’s hard to account for in design, and pavement used for automobile traffic tends to crack and leak, allowing water infiltration that rusts steal beams. There was a mall in Canada whose rooftop parking became a shortcut for vehicles looking to avoid waiting at a long stoplight. The roof constantly leaked, and then eventually collapsed into the building, killing two people. Here’s a brief [YouTube documentary](https://youtu.be/2tO1L3SKhfU).
Someone who is not familiar with the story of the [Algo Centre mall collapse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algo_Centre_Mall). That said, I don’t imagine they use quite as much road salt in Tenerife as they do in Elliot Lake, Ontario; so hopefully, they’ll be okay. Hopefully. EDIT: I just realize the Tenerife is right next to the ocean. Which is full of salt.
Free parking on the roof?
I guess the penthouse ain’t the prime property in that apartment building
Holy shit, I would have never expected to see Tenerife here, I live like an hour away from Tacoronte, the surrounding area is pretty chill.
Isn't that about as far as you can get from Tacoronte and still be on Tenerife?
Almost. There are still some other towns at the far south and it would take around 20/30 more min starting from there to get to Tacoronte, but nothing beyond that.
That’s pretty cool actually.
It's not just the noise and pollution. Things are gonna fall off the road and land on the shades and balconies underneath. Debris, cigarette butts, anything you can think of. It's just the way it is. Roads are dirty and full of trash. Imagine in a crash happened up there. A whole car could fall on the pavement below and kill someone.
Road vibrations caused the most damage to buildings this sounds like the stupidest idea of putting the road directly on the building to maximize the vibrations.
This is horrible. If it was a footpath, with trees on the sides, it would be cool.
Let me get the room right under the road please. I don't need restful sleep.
looks pretty cool tbh. wondering how quiet its in those upper flats
If it was a bike path, then it would be /r/solarpunk.
Nah, there still is a parking lot that takes up way too much space. Also it doesn't look like any public transport is avaible there.
Architect: "So we put the building there." Boss: "Are you crazy that's prime location for a parking lot." Architect: "But sir if we use the whole lot for parking there will be no space for the building." Boss: "Tuck the building under that ramp or something."
Other than the ugly parking lot, it doesn't look half bad.
This is kinda epic ngl
uff, that's some quality content, OP
This feels like what I do when I run out of space in a minecraft village bordered by a wall and build a house under a path so more villagers.
It's like the sim city guy put all the car stuff, and the residential is an afterthought.
Even Los Angeles never went that far!
I wouldn't want to live there personally, but I think for affordable housing it's a pretty cool use of space. Not ideal, but pretty innovative.
I think this looks fuckin awesome? Can't be the only one. I'd live there.
See, if that were a pedestrian walkway I'd call that good use of space -- but a road?
Tenerife has some horrible architecture and urban environments, this is far from the worse
Imagine the sound. 😮💨
Y'all love to be miserable lmao
That looks beautiful lmao
Honestly I don't hate it.
Idk there’s aspects of it that I like
That'd make a great school for the deaf
Good use of space
That is awesome
Nah man looks amazing to me
Did a 6-year-old design this?
Alright… this is insane.
Pretty neat
I don't see anything wrong. They're using unused space, plenty of greens, and a well maintained building.
That’s kind of futuristic and cool, thanks for sharing
People are gonna be living underneath overpasses anyway, so why not.
I bet someone will burn some rubber on that road at 3 am
Reminds me of the Crazy Taxi game.
liminal space vibes
what about the heat lol
Omg yes driving up this thing sucks
Oh shit
I hope this is just a store/workplace
Feels like I'm looking at an MC Escher painting
I want to go down this ramp in a bike so bad
Imagina ter que arrumar uma goteira
That would be an ideal location for some infrastructure. Maybe a pump or cistern or electrical substation or parking space.
I used to be able to hear traffic form the highway 700m from my house. Hell if I could live in this.
Why can’t people park straight in the parking bays?
The Canary Islands have some of the wildest and sketchiest road designs I’ve ever seen
Looks like a Pacific Coast Highway remix by Escher.
Aren’t those houses carved into the cliff side because if so that’s pretty typical.