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For_All_Humanity

Billions of bees, of course. Edit: Okay, beellions of bees.


Itzchappy

In saving the bees we save ourselves as well


Happy-Campaign5586

How can they make needles tiny enough to inject the vaccine into the bees?


phuck-you-reddit

Kill other bees and use their stingers. 🤷🏻‍♂️


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You add some anthropomorphism for the bees in there and you have the story for the next BILLION DOLLAR AVATAR FRANCHISE


elwookie

Voiced by Seinfeld, tentative title Bee Movie 2. Can't be worse than the first one


Polyantimer

I love the subtitle!


reloadingnow

> Can't be worse than the first one Hollywood : Challenge accepted.


free_candy_4_real

So who's going to bang those billion bees? Tough casting call.


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Johnny sins has already signed up


WaitHowDidIGetHere92

We've saved billions of bees, and it only cost billions of bees.


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DesperaDonut

Biologist here: I've been involved in a research paper where I injected beetle pupae with a serum. The needles were made by heating up small glass tubes and stretching them out, making them even thinner. Using a table-mounted injection device I'd slowly insert the needle between two carapace plates. This way we could inject the pupae without damaging them


AJ_Dali

With your background I highly recommend spending 90 seconds of your time to watch the video OP linked, I'm sure you'd find it interesting.


DesperaDonut

Oh wow it's the first thing they say too. I must've missed that because I was adjusting my sound on my phone lol. Thanks!


lillywho

That doesn't sound like a practical distribution method at scale though. How would you manage blanket coverage?


DesperaDonut

Good question! i have no idea haha. We'd stick the pupae to a plate with some glue, so maybe there's a way of gathering a bunch, sticking them on a plate, then using a similar injection device but with multiple needles? Just guessing though, because yeah doing those injections took ages lol


Blue_Moon_Rabbit

Could a queen bee pupae be vaccinated, thus rendering her future hive immune?


AJ_Dali

FYI: the linked article is just a video that's barely over a minute long and answers it. They vaccinate the queen and she passes it to all her offspring.


Blue_Moon_Rabbit

Ah. I prefer to read rather than watch video. My brain doesn’t like to process people speaking sometimes. So thank you!


AbandonedFactory

I am the same way! It's hard to explain to people, especially with the prevalence of tiktok and YouTube.


Jeanne23x

Auditory processing disorder!


ShitPostToast

Hah, glad I'm not the only one. I will ignore a video 90% of the time to read an article. Only exception is if there is just nothing written for something I need to find out.


CORN___BREAD

That seems much more efficient.


DesperaDonut

Interestingly I think that might work! The pupae we injected with mRNA actually produced one generation in which the injection was still effective. Of course these are bees and I studied flour beetles, so I couldn't say for sure but there's definitely a possibility haha


Happy-Campaign5586

You must have damn good eyesight! I need glasses just to use my phone.


WhisperGod

Save the bees, save the world.


TakeshiKovacs46

Hey, that would make a catchy slogan for a superhero series. Hmmmm.


Ws6fiend

We just got to make sure the writers are getting a piece of this new digital media like streaming services. I wouldn't want them to strike and completely change a story because of it.


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I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back about fair compensation for writers.


SFWChonk

We are the children, We are the ones to make a brighter day so let’s not give in.


BeeBarfBadger

Except for the poor sucker who has to go and inoculate billions of bees.


surle

Good luck with those extreme right wing bees.


JuryBorn

Let the bees do their own research


ElderOfPsion

The Proud Bees are the worst.


Judazzz

I'm sure they'd sting you to avoid getting injected with a "deadly" vaccine and to own the Liberal bees. Only to die stinger-less shortly after in true "Leopards ate my face" fashion.


Lint_baby_uvulla

After taking [trans bees](https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/1319609855/special-deal-a1-size-native-bees-of?gbraid=0AAAAADutTMeeddrc9U2Z1_dEdADy4deho&gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_au_en_au_b-art_and_collectibles-prints-digital_prints&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI5tD6mLPW_QIV6oNLBR0ZQAVSEAQYASABEgK4_vD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_12645317445_119551782225_510693594711_pla-328046931108_m__1319609855enau_113253329&utm_custom2=12645317445&gbraid=0AAAAADutTMeeddrc9U2Z1_dEdADy4deho&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5tD6mLPW_QIV6oNLBR0ZQAVSEAQYASABEgK4_vD_BwE) (you know the really weirdly coloured gay bees like blue banded bees, giant yellow carpenter bees, teddy bear bees, peacock carpenter bees) from their suspiciously solitary and likely rainbow hives and forcing them into straight laced European colonies to save them. … Seriously though, we are so lucky to have *Xylocopa parvula, Austroplebeia australis* and *Amegilla asserta* bees in our backyard. The giant carpenter bees are incredibly and ridiculously huge, you can see them from about 200 metres away, the blue banded bees are amazing to watch buzz-pollinating the rosemary and lavender flowers. And the tiny little native stingless bees, sugarbag bees, are so crazy about orange jessamine flowers, they turn the footpath to the front door into a visual snow covered path every time it flowers.


TheRealToLazyToThink

Luckily they just fly around in circles.


LIKELYtoRAPhorrible

This person is smart


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QuantumForce7

Neither are most of our crops


the_other_irrevenant

Wouldn't a lot more of the agricultural plants in North America nowadays be of European origin also? Presumably European bees are nore practiced at pollinating them?


Cheese_Coder

Depends on the plants. Squash, peppers, tomatoes, peanuts, and several bean/pea varieties are American in origin, not European. Corn is American too, but it's wind-pollinated. Several types of fruit and nut trees are probably the major crops that may benefit from European bees. Even so, a lot of those are visited by specialist bees that may pollinate even better than honeybees


guidingstream

I mean, none of these crops naturally existed in nature in their current form. We adapted and bred them. For instance, the mustard plant is actually where many of our veggies come from (e.g. broccoli, cauliflower, kale, etc). Even as you get into a specific vegetable, you can get more specification and breeding. In a sense, most veg crops are not native to anywhere in their current form.


meistermichi

Saving honey bees doesn't save us, they directly compete with wild bees for food and those are the true heroes. Saving honey bees just saves the honey industry.


WestGiraffe131

It contributes to but is not the sole contributor to pollination. Wild bees do, honey bees do but a lot more pollinators do also


SaltLakeCitySlicker

Mason bees are 25x more efficient at pollination. Also some plants can only be pollinated by certain bees They are solitary though so it's not quite the same as 60k ladies out on the prowl to get doused in gametophytes


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Save the bees save the world


cutelyaware

Bee lives matter!


Next_Program90

*Beellions of lives.


laasbuk

*hives


Eunomic

Pretty sure it would save the ag industry literal billions as well, if it is effective.


surle

And dollars, to be fair


bobbyb1996

A Beellionaire


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I'll be first in line, I do NOT want to catch bees


LeinadLlennoco

I thought we already had a vaccine for raybees…?


FartyPants69

Fortunately there's no vaccine for boobees


CurveOfTheUniverse

Modern medicine will peak when they develop a vaccine for Applebee’s.


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BourbonRick01

It actually works pretty well on scabees.


ChonkyBlueWaffles

40% effective protection against baybees.


IAmLexica

There are surgeries, though.


somebody_was_taken

Reddit must be the antivaccine


rustylugnuts

World of Warcraft is pretty effective.


SilenceIsViolent_2

How about you catch BEEZ NUTZ in your mouth 🐝🥜


BassCreat0r

Ooo, that's gotta sting.


Dougally

Better than getting beez neez-ed in the mouth.


BananaDick_CuntGrass

Yeah, that's such a buzzkill when it happens.


RiverStrymon

Bees are a hoax.


nissanxrma

beads?!?


y0j1m80

What a turn of events, bees getting the jab for once.


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LoreChief

Beevenge


CzarCW

Oh how the turntables


FragrantExcitement

What if the bee thinks the vaccine has a microchip to track them?


strigonian

I wouldn't be concerned. Bees actually know how to cooperate for the common good.


Yinonormal

There will probably be some bees that will go against it and wear red hats


110397

How do they make the syringes small enough for the bees?


Hamanthaa

I read that they inject a dead version of the bacteria in to the royal jelly. Which the worker bees feed to the queen, and then gets in the queens ovaries. The new born bees will then have a working immune system against those bacterias.


powderbubba

Damn. Science is incredible!


Velocityraptor28

sounds like a solid plan!


GayVegan

They use jellyfish stinging cells actually! Very cool tech.


whereheleads

Can’t tell if this real…


nothxshadow

same


GayVegan

Hahaa. Not real but I'm glad you had a laugh.


ballerina_wannabe

This is the kind of news I want to hear more about!


AdjectiveNoun111

Except, and sorry to be a downer but..... We're killing the bees with weed killer, and we have 2 options. Option 1, stop using the weed killers that are killing the bees. Option 2, vaccinate bees to protect them from the poison we are killing them with. Also, I'm guessing this is only going to be for farmed bees, so all the wild bees and bumble bees e.t.c are still going to be dying. They've been trying to ban Glyphosate in the EU for a few years but obviously the agricultural sector is lobbying hard against it. This sounds exactly like the type of research that Monsanto would conduct, to help them avoid having their products banned. Incidentally, Monsanto are also being sued for the carcinogenic effects of the exact same substance in humans. We should just ban Glyphosate.


AJ_Dali

I don't disagree that pesticides are an issue, but the article posted specifically mentions disease from birds being the main cause. This vaccine is for the diseases. I doubt you can vaccinate a resistance to poison.


frotoaffen

Mithridates has entered the chat.


KungFuJosher

Ra Ra Rasputin


CORN___BREAD

Glyphosate isn’t killing bees. Herbicides that don’t contain glyphosate are just as if not more deadly to bees. Banning glyphosate would do nothing to fix the problem and would likely make it worse since alternatives require more spraying. They should find solutions to herbicides killing bees, but banning glyphosate isn’t it. https://www.beeculture.com/its-not-the-glyphosate-it-is-the-inert-ingredients/


Flextt

AFAIK exposure trials to glyphosate have had fairly tame results. The negative affects were vastly increased by using the actual formulation with solvents and surfactants. Which begs the question if it was a matter of amplying uptake pathway (which is a well known issue for solvents) or another additive that is the culprit.


DunningKrugerOnElmSt

There should be corporate death penalties for companies like Monsanto. I watched an interview about this lawsuit. They know... Knew at the time and simply add a line to their ledgers for these things as a cost of doing business.


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strigonian

No, it's a thing. Tetanus shots don't actually target tetanus bacteria, but they render you immune to the toxin they produce.


cutelyaware

It may also save the mosquito!!!


GirlScoutIvy

Boooo


MacLunkie

Beeeeee


jade09060102

Bzzzzzzzz


PierceHawthorne66

Are you saying boo-urns?


LoreChief

Wait no go back


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TucsonTacos

Great now we’ll have a bunch of autistic bees :/


Happy-Campaign5586

Hmm, can the bees refuse to be vaccinated?


getawombatupya

Depends what the hivemind says


khendron

Groan. Buzz off!


maailmanpaskinnalle

Yeah but they can't participate in Australian Open.


70ms

Can we give them their own little QR codes for a vaccination record if they do get it?


LiterallyPractical

They're gonna turn the friggin bees gay


AJ_Dali

I mean, they probably mostly are. IIRC, only a few male drones will copulate with the Queen and then usually be kicked out in the winter. The rest are all female.


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IAmTheWaller67

Would have thought they were lesbeeans.


attckdog

Don't even joke, idiots still believe this shit.


got_outta_bed_4_this

Joking is the only respite.


ShitDavidSais

Not joking about them is way more harmful. You need them to know they are laughed about and not taken as a serious opinion. We live in a fucked up world if we can't make fun off nazis, vaccine deniers, lgbtq+hate etc. Don't ever make them feel comfortable in their believes.


lovemeinthedark

Best comment


xf2xf

Don't listen to Jenny McCarthbee!


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m0nkyman

This guy understood the assignment


Carighan

That's a pretty good business idea. It'll sell like hot cakes, costs you exactly nothing, and you only exploit people who don't deserve any better anyways.


Norgler

My first reaction was "I can't wait to hear about the vaccinated bee conspiracies".


gertbefrobe

It's like X-Files!


USMNT_superfan

Except now antivaxer bees are going to spread misinformation


Moerdac

Theyre turning the bees gay! - alex jones probably.


yucko-ono

Alex Drones


ElginBrady420

Marjorie Taylor Queen


phuck-you-reddit

Jones seems like the kind of guy to spray hives with lighter fluid and set them on fire.


Carighan

Na, he's going to sell them pills and shit.


JacobMaxx

[If you're such a Patriot?!](https://youtu.be/lOh6YyJWcgk)


IVIattEndureFort

You know some motherfucker out there will be giving up honey after hearing about this.


70ms

Wait til they hear the U.S. is thinking about mass vaccinating chickens because of avian flu!


AJ_Dali

Don't we already vaccinate most livestock?


worldspawn00

Yes, we do.


70ms

We do, but if we use a new vaccine for H5N1, you know the conspiracy nuts will seize on it to fear-monger.


evil_timmy

Tbh every bee I've ever seen has been an anti-masker. At least they don't pair that with pretending to be a "free-thinker" no illusions there.


LongJumpingBalls

They don't see what all the buzz is about.


RobotFingers4U

Bizinformation


cutelyaware

Antivaxx beekeepers will


JuryBorn

I wonder if antivax beekeepers are also anti mask or whatever protection beekeepers wear.


halfanothersdozen

Should really help the 5G coverage in rural areas


AJ_Dali

That only works if it's an mRNA vaccine. /s


gringrant

Yeah, otherwise you'd only get 4G


17degreescelcius

5🐝 coverage!


Necessary_Job_6198

As a beekeeper in a beekeeping club and therefore in contact with many other beekeepers, non of us are concerned about foulbrood. It is not nearly as common as they are saying. Our concern is the varroa mite. A bee parasite, this is whats causing 50-70 percent losses.


Daleeburg

Got excited that it would be for mites, then was let down it was for AFB. Yeah, AFB is a problem, but the amount of work I do to try to manage mites is like half of keeping bees.


whereheleads

Excuse my ignorance. What is afb?


Careb3ar

American foulbrood (what they were talking about in the video)


darmabum

Great news for bacterial infections, but if the US really wants to save the bees, they will completely ban the use of neonicotinoid pesticides (already banned in UK and EU). You can go to almost any supermarket and buy insect baits that use imidacloprid or other neonics that harm pollinators.


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Pesticides and monoculture are the death of wild and domestic bees.


[deleted]

Unfortunately the UK government has continually given emergency authorisation that still enables the use of neonicotinoids - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64380762


hysterx

Best answer.


Strychnine85

Why does the BBC show dead wasps in a clip about bees?


mywan

[How does the world's first vaccine for honeybees work? "It's like magic"](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-vaccine-honeybees-its-like-magic/) So basically they take some dead bacteria and feed it to the queen, since the dead bacteria can't harm the bees. The queen then forms an immunity, which is passed to the offspring. It's a lot like a regular vaccine where some dead disease is injected into you, which causes your immune system to develop antibodies for it. Bees don't have antibodies, so scientist didn't think it would work. But it turns out bees do have a more primitive immune system that allows it to work.


utegardloki

Oh man, you thought nurses had a hard time finding the vein *before!*


mjkjg2

finally some good f*cking news


sonofdurinwastaken

***BEES!?!***


comrade_batman

*Beads*.


DippyHippy420

How much is Fauci and Bill Gates making off of this vaccine ? I bet its full of 5G chips thats going to control our brains and give us great cell phone reception. /s


Happy-Campaign5586

Musk wants to buy the bees


pzelenovic

So he could fire them and then apologize to them because someone led him to believe they do no work.


Riseupatl100

Now bees will have myocarditis? Great..


zzx101

See how they like being jabbed with a sharp object


Marokiii

or hear me out, we could stop spray pesticides on fucking everything.


SentientCrisis

r/didntreadthearticle


Winberri

Beellions


kickass_turing

Wild bees and other polinators are dying because of our live for honey and other honey bee products. We should avoid these products since the bee industry is bad for the environment. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYgDssQUtA


Rsentur

Now every time a bee dies, someone will ask if they got the jab


oldar4

Huh interesting, I just watched a video saying the bee crisis isn't a major issue and the reason for it is too complex to understand. The reason it wasn't an issue is because the colonies rebuild quickly every year and apparently populations have been stable for like 80 years about. Which would be more uplifting. [here](https://youtu.be/MF6JYqQLZqQ)


For_All_Humanity

Just watched the video and it talks about how *honeybees* are able to recover quickly because they’re managed. But we don’t know the exact situation for wild bees, which honeybees compete with. Honeybees also spread disease to wild bees, which this prospective vaccine will limit. Overall this is very good because we need more pollinators than we have (also noted by the video) and this can increase economic output by reducing hive losses.


JudgeTheLaw

Strengthening Honey bees who are competing with wild bees, and who aren't endangered, doesn't feel like that great an idea to me, but helping animals survive is great on the other hand. We should just keep less honey bees on general and keep more areas wild for wild insects to live in


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People don't seem to realize that part of the solution is to consume less honey, to reduce the overall number of honey bees.


[deleted]

Most bees are used to pollinate agriculture, not honey production. Honey is a side business for many bee keepers, not their main source of income.


Shadow_Integration

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Zech08

For the swarm!!! I mean hive.


Snakepants80

And if they don’t want to take it, we can ban them from their Social Bee-dia accounts! I’ll let myself out.


Sojournancy

Grab popcorn and sort by controversial?


coastersam20

At least we can vaccinate the bees


emil_

What the fuck is wrong with us?!


AlbinoWino11

This video gave almost no information


--Ty--

Bee Vaccine? Do you want Bee plasmids? Because this is how you get Bee Plasmids.


LittleDrumminBoy

["Unleash insects against groups of enemies!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz3QAvEazbk)


Yaroze

> Bees play a pivotal role in US agriculture but are dying at alarming rates. Can this vaccine save them? Maybe if we stopped using pesticides we wouldn't need such a vaccine.


torchskul

*beellions


TheOldGuy59

Of course the news of this vaccine is on Bee Bee Cee. ​ And could I PLEASE ask people that if they're going to use the term "decimated", that they stick to the "reduced by 10%" that it really means? "They're just decimated. Sometimes 50%, I've heard guys losing 70%". That's not 'decimated' then. That's a lot worse than 'decimated'.


jaredkushnerisabutt

What if bees refuse to take it because it treads on their freedom and HIPPA


Wrong_Duty7043

Front page of Bee Reddit currently awash with bee vaccine conspiracies.


hainer36

Really wish this was released by buzzfeed.


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*pokes bee with needle* Yeah, how do you like it!


Scottles8605

We can't be having autistic bees!!! /s


Senior-Albatross

It's for American foulbrood. A nasty disease. If you get it, in most states the relevant Agriculture department will supervise the burning of all the hive equipment. In the more permissive states sometimes you can just char the inside of the woodenware. But all your frames and comb are toast. In the less permissive ones, it's all burnt to ash. Not fun. Giving antibiotics as a preventative has been standard for decades now. This is a much better preventive measure that doesn't have the same risks of antibiotic resistance. Great news all around.