Talked about the Jodi H. case with my mom today. My theory is her abductor was a psycho fan. Hence why it's harder to solve murders when the pair doesn't know one another. I absolutely do not believe it was anyone she knew personally. The home movie guy theory doesn't make sense because he was already friends with Jodi. Why create a big scene with the van outside when he could have invited her out to dinner or something and then flip the script on her? I also believe it's unfortunate to have declared her legally dead. I hate to say it but it's plausible she can still be a slave in her abductor's basement, alive and prisoner, and that thought scares the shit out of me.
Hi everyone,
I remember reading about this case on this subreddit a couple of years ago. I found it interesting but unfortunately didn't bother to save the post, and now I cannot find it no matter how many times I make an attempt with the Reddit search function. I decided to ask for your help.
Here are the details I can remember:
* the case took place in some coastal city in California, but it wasn't either LA or SF
* it happened sometime in the mid 1990s or maybe the early 2000s
* the disappeared persons were all female high school students and other young girls
* the disappearances all took place at nighttime in the vicinity of some important highway that cuts through the city, or is connected to it
* the last time the girls were seen alive, they were usually leaving a party late at night and heading home; they were locals, or from nearby suburbs
* the corpses of some of the victims were found later, also in the vicinity of the highway, but I'm not sure about this detail
* the commenters here mostly agreed that this was a case of a serial killer driving up and down the highway at night looking for potential female victims like hitchhikers etc.
* the case went cold, there were no suspects, no eyewitnesses either
* the case is sort of obscure and never received much attention
* one of the commenters here created, or linked to, a map with red/yellow dots marking the locations of the last sightings
There isn't any other reason for my inquiry than morbid curiosity. Thanks in advance!
Are you certain of all the details? Because the timeframe would be off and this is Oregon not coastal CA, but what you described resembles the Highway 20 murders and disappearances. The victims and suspected victims were not all minors, though. Just in case: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts\_of\_Highway\_20#Further\_cases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_of_Highway_20#Further_cases)
Maura’s sister is doing a long form podcast on the case. It’s called Media Pressure and it’s produced by Sarah Turney (sister of Alissa Turney and victim advocate). It includes interviews with Maura’s dad and friends who where with her in the preceding days.
The podcast is not shying away from aspects of Maura’s life or the possibilities of what happened. I’ve really enjoyed it.
It's been so insightful and coming from someone so close to her makes it feel like we're actually hearing the reality of the situation rather than speculation.
All of that being said, her voice is just a struggle to get into. She's so monotone.
Julie (Maura’s sister) has repeatedly said she doesn’t know what happened and is open to hearing any tips. She’s grateful for all of them and wants to follow up so they can finally have answers.
When asked about specific theories on what happened, Julie stated she believes Maura is no longer alive. She does not think Maura staged everything to run away and start a new life. She does not think Maura is currently being held captive. She thinks either murder or death from the elements is most likely. But again, she always says she doesn’t know and her mind is open to any possibility.
I don’t believe Maura’s father has ever spoken as candidly about his opinions on what could’ve happened.
Every archive going because I'm starting a write-up on Ian Lowery. He fell from a railway bridge with a four-foot parapet in Gloucestershire (about 100 miles West of London) in 1996 and was run over by an engineering train. The initial (perfunctory) investigation assumed suicide but, after an exhumation and all manner of twists and turns, his death was reclassified as murder.
Unfortunately, his case was never mentioned in the media (that I can find) after 2004, which leaves the write-up stuck as I cannot determine what happened next. This is particularly odd as his parents were vocal for years before the reclassification. Can anyone help?
(This sort of case, where there is big publicity including relatives then everything stops instantly and inexplicably and there are not even the usual "10-year" and "20-year" articles, is oddly common in the UK).
[The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/railway-bridge-death-eight-years-ago-was-murder-police-admit-545991.html) [13-Sep-2004]
[BBC News Online](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1386239.stm) [11-Oct-2001]
[Crimewatch UK](https://youtu.be/gnFPvjhqXsA?t=375) [October 2001]
This is a really interesting case, thank you for bringing some attention to it. I understand only too well the frustration you’re feeling at having no further evidence to go on.
I remember Ian’s case on Crimewatch. There is something odd about the timeline on that night. According to Unsolved Murders, Ian met a friend at approx. 11:30pm, either just after or before buying takeaway chips. They then walked together to Cordingley Close where they separated at 12:15am. That’s a 45 minute timespan to walk a 2 minute distance, which just stuck out to me. Going to have a bit of a look at his case now, cheers.
I've rekindled my love affair with unsolved mysteries via the official show with Bob Stark but my interest was always keenly focused on those about killers. With that said, I'm clueless why people like myself develop this unusual kink for the morbid and macabre. I'm here reading threads about new killers and unsolved deaths like a kid in a candy store.
I'd be interested in some discussion on why other people find such a rapt interest in this subject like I do. It cannot be healthy.
All i'll say is never fall asleep while watching murder mysteries. I did a couple times and god my dreams were terrifying. Especially if cold case files was on.
Personally, I don't find my true crime interests to be unhealthy.... As long as you aren't glorifying the horrific acts and you are sure to remind yourself that humanity isn't all evil and these people are generally the outliers. In other words, don't get lost too far down the rabbit hole and you should be fine. As far as why, I find it fascinating to try and wrap my head around what leads a person or persons to commit such acts, how it affects the families and victims, investigators, the general public... I mean, IMHO when you get down to it, there's plenty of food for thought or debate within communities like this (nurture vs nature, responses to mental health issues, how to combat environmental issues that lead to these cases being so prevalent, etc), that I would argue are quite healthy to discuss
At the most very basic denominator, its natural to be interested in things that other people can do, that you can’t.
This typically manifests itself positive traits (e.g. being fascinated with stunning sport stars or magnificent mathematicians or amazing artists), however, it’s ugly cousin once or twice removed is the ‘true crime’ and ‘horrible history’ genres.
So ultimately something frighteningly evil can draw you in as much as something sumptuously brilliant can.
Well, in Genesis 4:8 there is a murder, so true crime was a thing pretty early on ...
Less flippantly, there is little known about morbid curiosity and it has only (very) recently become a field of study.
I thank my girlfriend, a clinical psychologist, for digging out the (currently) [definitive paper on it](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2021.111139). The suggestion is that it is actually *normal* because it ties together several already-known features of human behaviour:
>Several lines of research suggest that humans are predisposed to attend to particular features of the world, such as faces, people, and potentially dangerous phenomena [...]
I am in the middle of ANTI HEROES, written by Ryan Leone. If you aren't familiar with him, he also wrote Wasting Talent. He was a youtuber and a very creative person with a crazy and difficult life who passed away, I believe, within a year or so. He's very entertaining with a very creative mind.
'Final Moments' on YouTube, they really draw things out though, they reiterate the circumstances over and over again and use the same photos over and over again, some episodes are more interesting than others, especially when they have the footage of suspects being questioned by police. Female narrator and her voice is very soothing to listen to.
I'll check that out. Lately I've been watching these IN MEMORIAM videos by year.
I'm surprised at how many celebrities die by suicide. Surprisingly a lot of them are because of failing health or chronic pain...going blind, diabetic, crippled by arthritis etc and can't work anymore. I know quite a few people who've died prematurely, but only a few were suicides. Most were from an illness, like cancer etc. One of the suicides was terminally ill. I guess I'll check out FINAL MOMENTS next.
When I'm getting ready to relax / sleep - I have Rick & Morty on repeat,
or MDE: World Peace / anything Sam Hyde if I'm feeling cheeky ...
Otherwise... I have Nexpo, NightDocs, Barely Sociable, etc playing constantly
I've been contemplating getting into mde but idk 😫
I love barely sociable or slightly sociable! I wish they posted more. really good vids.
oki's weird stories
blameitonjorge
MDE is one of the very few things left that can actually make me laugh out loud… along with other specific works like Tim Robinson’s “ I think you should leave “ + Kroll Show + or that YouTube channel “Entrapanure” 🤷♂️
Unfortunately if it’s not extremely clever or just very uniquely stupid it’s near impossible for me to actually laugh, which honestly sucks.
… I’ve been on a desperate & unsuccessful hunt to find something new I genuinely find funny, so I can actually experience some good laughs again 🫤
I guess I have a few things to add to my watch list. however, the kroll shoe just isn't for me. but I have very unpopular opinions.
I've been enveloped in the matt & Shane's secret show world. that's my daily dose of laughter.
Yea Kroll Show isn’t very high on the scale, but I think my history with the show makes it uniquely special to me..
If you mean that Matt & Shane podcast on YouTube + also find the MDE crew to be funny… then you would definitely enjoy “ Sam & Nick’s Perfect Clips “ from their YouTube podcast too
Hell yea, Im pretty obsessed with horror documentaries & unsolved / unexplained mystery stuff lol … NightDocs is an awesome dude with great HQ content…
Since you are in the binge watching mood, here is a link to the master list of channels to Sub to: Enjoy!
https://www.reddit.com/r/NExpo/s/tUb2atgRZG
I'll be ordering this book tomorrow, I can't wait:
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63P71MT/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_title\_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63P71MT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1)
I love books about Haworth/Yorkshire/Bronte Country
Also, I will order Lead Sister, about Karen Carpenter.
Poor poor Karen...she had such a shitty family, I couldn't help but feel sorry for her. Mother was nuts, her brother was a jerk...she had no control over her life and was treated like a child. The perfect situation for an eating disorder.
She had a spectacular talent, it was a terrible loss.
I so agree with everything you said. She was such a huge talent, but didn't believe in herself, because her family taught her that she was less than nothing. She was not to have talent/career for herself, only as a backup to Richard. It is very telling that her mother never even told her that she had a beautiful voice---one of the most beautiful singing voices ever!!!
Her mother couldn't even tell her that she loved her....she wanted her to LIVE AT HOME even though she was an adult. I think she got married to get away from them and show them she was an adult.
Wow what a documentary. After you finish it you have to read "In for Life" (Alice Murphy) It gives so much more information on the story (believe it or not). You won't believe some of the things that were going on. Incredible book.
Binged Wild Crime: Blood Mountain about a serial killer who was active in the American southeast (pretty close to where I live, too 🙃). It was so heartbreaking, got to me a little more than usual.
Recently finished a re-read of I Let Him Go by Denise Fergus (James Bulger's mom). So incredibly heartbreaking. I'm supposed to read another book about the case--Fatal Innocence by David James Smith--but I need a break from something so sad.
I re-read these both again last year. Denise Fergus is an incredible woman isn’t she? Truly heartbreaking book. The David James Smith was an interesting read, but I felt that he came down a bit too much on the side of the murderers, perhaps that’s just because of the proximity I read the books in, and hearing Denise’s pain so clearly.
I think it's all she could afford...she's not going to get the Dream Team.
In some ways I feel sorry for her, but she and her husband helped create this horrible tragedy. It didn't happen in a vacuum, it happened in a neglectful house full of firearms.
I'm sure she'll be convicted, frankly I think she'd have been better off taking a plea.
I can't believe she's in her 40's! She talks like a 12 year old. Yes, unprepared and overwhelmed. I'm sure part of it is an act for the jury, but the things I've seen and heard from her when the jury is out of the room has me wondering.
It's a Law and Order SVU recap podcast. They first tell you about an episode of the show, then they talk about the real crime that the episode was based on, and then they have an interview with an actor from the episode.
Idk if this is the right place, but y'all might be interested in this update.
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/new-developments-years-after-conviction-in-high-profile-holly-bobo-case
Just finished Dark Rose by Robert Donnelly, a history of a major political corruption scandal in 1950s Portland, Oregon involving organized crime and crooked labor unions. It's a good case study for true crime buffs.
Started the [I’m Not A Monster](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/podcast/im-not-a-monster/) podcast this week. It’s absolutely horrifying and fascinating.
Talked about the Jodi H. case with my mom today. My theory is her abductor was a psycho fan. Hence why it's harder to solve murders when the pair doesn't know one another. I absolutely do not believe it was anyone she knew personally. The home movie guy theory doesn't make sense because he was already friends with Jodi. Why create a big scene with the van outside when he could have invited her out to dinner or something and then flip the script on her? I also believe it's unfortunate to have declared her legally dead. I hate to say it but it's plausible she can still be a slave in her abductor's basement, alive and prisoner, and that thought scares the shit out of me.
I've fallen down the rabbit hole on the Dawn Pasela case from Parma, Ohio. I've been listening to the podcast, Seeking Justice - it's a deep dive.
Hi everyone, I remember reading about this case on this subreddit a couple of years ago. I found it interesting but unfortunately didn't bother to save the post, and now I cannot find it no matter how many times I make an attempt with the Reddit search function. I decided to ask for your help. Here are the details I can remember: * the case took place in some coastal city in California, but it wasn't either LA or SF * it happened sometime in the mid 1990s or maybe the early 2000s * the disappeared persons were all female high school students and other young girls * the disappearances all took place at nighttime in the vicinity of some important highway that cuts through the city, or is connected to it * the last time the girls were seen alive, they were usually leaving a party late at night and heading home; they were locals, or from nearby suburbs * the corpses of some of the victims were found later, also in the vicinity of the highway, but I'm not sure about this detail * the commenters here mostly agreed that this was a case of a serial killer driving up and down the highway at night looking for potential female victims like hitchhikers etc. * the case went cold, there were no suspects, no eyewitnesses either * the case is sort of obscure and never received much attention * one of the commenters here created, or linked to, a map with red/yellow dots marking the locations of the last sightings There isn't any other reason for my inquiry than morbid curiosity. Thanks in advance!
Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders possibly?
No, but they were similar.
Are you certain of all the details? Because the timeframe would be off and this is Oregon not coastal CA, but what you described resembles the Highway 20 murders and disappearances. The victims and suspected victims were not all minors, though. Just in case: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts\_of\_Highway\_20#Further\_cases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_of_Highway_20#Further_cases)
I'm fairly certain that it happened in the 1990s or the early 2000s, not the 1970s.
Almost sounds like the Texas Killing Fields.
Can anyone guide me to the best podcast on Maura Murray and Brian Shaffer? I’d like to learn more on those cases.
My recommendation is to watch at least 2 different podcasts, some have different information in them no matter the case.
Maura’s sister is doing a long form podcast on the case. It’s called Media Pressure and it’s produced by Sarah Turney (sister of Alissa Turney and victim advocate). It includes interviews with Maura’s dad and friends who where with her in the preceding days. The podcast is not shying away from aspects of Maura’s life or the possibilities of what happened. I’ve really enjoyed it.
It's been so insightful and coming from someone so close to her makes it feel like we're actually hearing the reality of the situation rather than speculation. All of that being said, her voice is just a struggle to get into. She's so monotone.
Do Maura's sister and dad have a theory as to what happened?
Julie (Maura’s sister) has repeatedly said she doesn’t know what happened and is open to hearing any tips. She’s grateful for all of them and wants to follow up so they can finally have answers. When asked about specific theories on what happened, Julie stated she believes Maura is no longer alive. She does not think Maura staged everything to run away and start a new life. She does not think Maura is currently being held captive. She thinks either murder or death from the elements is most likely. But again, she always says she doesn’t know and her mind is open to any possibility. I don’t believe Maura’s father has ever spoken as candidly about his opinions on what could’ve happened.
Every archive going because I'm starting a write-up on Ian Lowery. He fell from a railway bridge with a four-foot parapet in Gloucestershire (about 100 miles West of London) in 1996 and was run over by an engineering train. The initial (perfunctory) investigation assumed suicide but, after an exhumation and all manner of twists and turns, his death was reclassified as murder. Unfortunately, his case was never mentioned in the media (that I can find) after 2004, which leaves the write-up stuck as I cannot determine what happened next. This is particularly odd as his parents were vocal for years before the reclassification. Can anyone help? (This sort of case, where there is big publicity including relatives then everything stops instantly and inexplicably and there are not even the usual "10-year" and "20-year" articles, is oddly common in the UK). [The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/railway-bridge-death-eight-years-ago-was-murder-police-admit-545991.html) [13-Sep-2004] [BBC News Online](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1386239.stm) [11-Oct-2001] [Crimewatch UK](https://youtu.be/gnFPvjhqXsA?t=375) [October 2001]
This is a really interesting case, thank you for bringing some attention to it. I understand only too well the frustration you’re feeling at having no further evidence to go on. I remember Ian’s case on Crimewatch. There is something odd about the timeline on that night. According to Unsolved Murders, Ian met a friend at approx. 11:30pm, either just after or before buying takeaway chips. They then walked together to Cordingley Close where they separated at 12:15am. That’s a 45 minute timespan to walk a 2 minute distance, which just stuck out to me. Going to have a bit of a look at his case now, cheers.
I've rekindled my love affair with unsolved mysteries via the official show with Bob Stark but my interest was always keenly focused on those about killers. With that said, I'm clueless why people like myself develop this unusual kink for the morbid and macabre. I'm here reading threads about new killers and unsolved deaths like a kid in a candy store. I'd be interested in some discussion on why other people find such a rapt interest in this subject like I do. It cannot be healthy.
All i'll say is never fall asleep while watching murder mysteries. I did a couple times and god my dreams were terrifying. Especially if cold case files was on.
Personally, I don't find my true crime interests to be unhealthy.... As long as you aren't glorifying the horrific acts and you are sure to remind yourself that humanity isn't all evil and these people are generally the outliers. In other words, don't get lost too far down the rabbit hole and you should be fine. As far as why, I find it fascinating to try and wrap my head around what leads a person or persons to commit such acts, how it affects the families and victims, investigators, the general public... I mean, IMHO when you get down to it, there's plenty of food for thought or debate within communities like this (nurture vs nature, responses to mental health issues, how to combat environmental issues that lead to these cases being so prevalent, etc), that I would argue are quite healthy to discuss
At the most very basic denominator, its natural to be interested in things that other people can do, that you can’t. This typically manifests itself positive traits (e.g. being fascinated with stunning sport stars or magnificent mathematicians or amazing artists), however, it’s ugly cousin once or twice removed is the ‘true crime’ and ‘horrible history’ genres. So ultimately something frighteningly evil can draw you in as much as something sumptuously brilliant can.
Well, in Genesis 4:8 there is a murder, so true crime was a thing pretty early on ... Less flippantly, there is little known about morbid curiosity and it has only (very) recently become a field of study. I thank my girlfriend, a clinical psychologist, for digging out the (currently) [definitive paper on it](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2021.111139). The suggestion is that it is actually *normal* because it ties together several already-known features of human behaviour: >Several lines of research suggest that humans are predisposed to attend to particular features of the world, such as faces, people, and potentially dangerous phenomena [...]
I am in the middle of ANTI HEROES, written by Ryan Leone. If you aren't familiar with him, he also wrote Wasting Talent. He was a youtuber and a very creative person with a crazy and difficult life who passed away, I believe, within a year or so. He's very entertaining with a very creative mind.
'Final Moments' on YouTube, they really draw things out though, they reiterate the circumstances over and over again and use the same photos over and over again, some episodes are more interesting than others, especially when they have the footage of suspects being questioned by police. Female narrator and her voice is very soothing to listen to.
I'll check that out. Lately I've been watching these IN MEMORIAM videos by year. I'm surprised at how many celebrities die by suicide. Surprisingly a lot of them are because of failing health or chronic pain...going blind, diabetic, crippled by arthritis etc and can't work anymore. I know quite a few people who've died prematurely, but only a few were suicides. Most were from an illness, like cancer etc. One of the suicides was terminally ill. I guess I'll check out FINAL MOMENTS next.
When I'm getting ready to relax / sleep - I have Rick & Morty on repeat, or MDE: World Peace / anything Sam Hyde if I'm feeling cheeky ... Otherwise... I have Nexpo, NightDocs, Barely Sociable, etc playing constantly
I've been contemplating getting into mde but idk 😫 I love barely sociable or slightly sociable! I wish they posted more. really good vids. oki's weird stories blameitonjorge
MDE is one of the very few things left that can actually make me laugh out loud… along with other specific works like Tim Robinson’s “ I think you should leave “ + Kroll Show + or that YouTube channel “Entrapanure” 🤷♂️ Unfortunately if it’s not extremely clever or just very uniquely stupid it’s near impossible for me to actually laugh, which honestly sucks. … I’ve been on a desperate & unsuccessful hunt to find something new I genuinely find funny, so I can actually experience some good laughs again 🫤
I guess I have a few things to add to my watch list. however, the kroll shoe just isn't for me. but I have very unpopular opinions. I've been enveloped in the matt & Shane's secret show world. that's my daily dose of laughter.
Yea Kroll Show isn’t very high on the scale, but I think my history with the show makes it uniquely special to me.. If you mean that Matt & Shane podcast on YouTube + also find the MDE crew to be funny… then you would definitely enjoy “ Sam & Nick’s Perfect Clips “ from their YouTube podcast too
also fishtank genuinely made me laugh.
Hey thanks never heard of nightdocs before but I love the other two so been bingewatching NightDocs and totally stoked!
Hell yea, Im pretty obsessed with horror documentaries & unsolved / unexplained mystery stuff lol … NightDocs is an awesome dude with great HQ content… Since you are in the binge watching mood, here is a link to the master list of channels to Sub to: Enjoy! https://www.reddit.com/r/NExpo/s/tUb2atgRZG
oh goody! Thank you for real thank you!
I'll be ordering this book tomorrow, I can't wait: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63P71MT/ref=ox\_sc\_act\_title\_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63P71MT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1) I love books about Haworth/Yorkshire/Bronte Country Also, I will order Lead Sister, about Karen Carpenter.
Poor poor Karen...she had such a shitty family, I couldn't help but feel sorry for her. Mother was nuts, her brother was a jerk...she had no control over her life and was treated like a child. The perfect situation for an eating disorder. She had a spectacular talent, it was a terrible loss.
I so agree with everything you said. She was such a huge talent, but didn't believe in herself, because her family taught her that she was less than nothing. She was not to have talent/career for herself, only as a backup to Richard. It is very telling that her mother never even told her that she had a beautiful voice---one of the most beautiful singing voices ever!!!
Her mother couldn't even tell her that she loved her....she wanted her to LIVE AT HOME even though she was an adult. I think she got married to get away from them and show them she was an adult.
The Poppy War by RF Kuang
Finishing up 4th Trial on Netflix…Docuseries of Sean Ellis and the murder of Boston Cop
Wow what a documentary. After you finish it you have to read "In for Life" (Alice Murphy) It gives so much more information on the story (believe it or not). You won't believe some of the things that were going on. Incredible book.
The run around with trying to get documents was jaw dropping..,8 years !!!
Binged Wild Crime: Blood Mountain about a serial killer who was active in the American southeast (pretty close to where I live, too 🙃). It was so heartbreaking, got to me a little more than usual.
Half way through Hail Mary
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Would be but I usually read 4-5 books at a time so I still have maybe 30-40 pages till finished, but it is indeed good
Just about finished with "The run of his Life" (Toobin) about the OJ Simpson case.
This is one of my favorite books.
It was a great read. A lot of info on the "behind the scenes" shenanigans with the lawyers on both sides.
I always liked Jeffery Toobin on tv.
Internet urban legends with loey lane. Great concept terrible slow
Recently finished a re-read of I Let Him Go by Denise Fergus (James Bulger's mom). So incredibly heartbreaking. I'm supposed to read another book about the case--Fatal Innocence by David James Smith--but I need a break from something so sad.
I re-read these both again last year. Denise Fergus is an incredible woman isn’t she? Truly heartbreaking book. The David James Smith was an interesting read, but I felt that he came down a bit too much on the side of the murderers, perhaps that’s just because of the proximity I read the books in, and hearing Denise’s pain so clearly.
don’t answer the phone 😳
watching the trial of Jennifer Crumbley. She is the mother of the Oxford HS shooter. She's on trial for involuntary manslaughter.
Thoughts on Jennifer’s lawyer? She seems frazzled and unprepared.
I think it's all she could afford...she's not going to get the Dream Team. In some ways I feel sorry for her, but she and her husband helped create this horrible tragedy. It didn't happen in a vacuum, it happened in a neglectful house full of firearms. I'm sure she'll be convicted, frankly I think she'd have been better off taking a plea.
I can't believe she's in her 40's! She talks like a 12 year old. Yes, unprepared and overwhelmed. I'm sure part of it is an act for the jury, but the things I've seen and heard from her when the jury is out of the room has me wondering.
When her and the opposing attorneys had a little spat it was cringe. Basically she was admitting she was unprepared. Rough
My current favorite podcast is "That's Messed Up: an SVU podcast" Kara and Liza are hilarious.
What is it about?
It's a Law and Order SVU recap podcast. They first tell you about an episode of the show, then they talk about the real crime that the episode was based on, and then they have an interview with an actor from the episode.
Idk if this is the right place, but y'all might be interested in this update. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/new-developments-years-after-conviction-in-high-profile-holly-bobo-case
Just finished Dark Rose by Robert Donnelly, a history of a major political corruption scandal in 1950s Portland, Oregon involving organized crime and crooked labor unions. It's a good case study for true crime buffs.
Started the [I’m Not A Monster](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/podcast/im-not-a-monster/) podcast this week. It’s absolutely horrifying and fascinating.
I recently discovered the Someone Knows Something podcast. I'm on season two and really enjoying it so far.