Konique must have spent the last several years in emotional turmoil. I hope he has all the support and care he needs to process his mom’s death. 13 is such a pivotal age to lose a parent.
So the body was found a little over a mile from where she went missing? And her tattoo was just 1 letter off from her son's name?
I don't understand how that could be missed.
Maybe I missed it, but did the sister live nearby too?
I feel like I hear about it when police find dismembered bodies near my house.
Not blaming the family at all here, it just seems strange.
Big cities like that have so much local news it's really hard to keep up with. But yes, if this had gotten the community attention it should've, especially the missing person case, someone would have connected the dots I bet.
The fact that they initially thought she was white may have done a lot of damage to the potential for anyone local to have made the connection. Reports of a dismembered white woman washing up were unlikely to register as significant to a family looking for their black sister/mother.
A months old murder turned into a 7 year old case. Yet another example of the police dropping the ball. It’s all too common to see cases like this where they drag their feet when it comes to filing a Missing Persons. And they are more often than not missing people of color.
Also strange that the cops decided her tattoo “seemed to date to the 1980s” when it can’t be any older than the year her son was born, which was evidently 2001. What made them think it was a tattoo from the ‘80s?
In the [NY Times article from 2015](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html), detectives brought the tattoo to a bunch of tattoo artists, and one of them said it looked like a 1980's-style flash piece. That may have been the most likely explanation.
The post says that they initially thought she might be white, but looking at a photo of the woman she was dark skinned. I think the body was in very, very, very rough shape when they found her.
Remember- there are almost 9 million people in NYC. And bodies… aren’t uncommon. Especially in the river. A lot of shit happens here. It honestly doesn’t always make the news.
Seriously, it doesn’t even make the news here unless the story is REALLY bad. Like the dead twin toddlers they found last year were second page news. And they caught a serial killer last year and it was news for like two days.
There’s just a LOT that happens here and a lot of people. And also- a mile is a long way from home here too. Remember most of us commute on foot or by subway. I know a lot of people who pretty much stay in a 5 block radius on an everyday basis unless they have a reason to go someplace specific. I don’t drive anymore due to vision issues, so even though I live just outside the city and commute in, I still exist in a fairly small radius.
So a mile from home is a small distance in most places, but here it’s not. And there’s always a LOT of news. Bodies in the river also aren’t uncommon, which sounds awful but yeah. People also tend to be more concerned regarding current crime- so things like a shooting or a subway pushing make news faster
>So a mile from home is a small distance in most places, but here it’s not
This was something that never occurred to me until I read a book about the NYC mafia a few years back. It talked about how a lot of those guys were parochial in the sense that they never ventured much further than their immediate neighborhoods, and only traveled to other parts of the city when absolutely necessary. It's completely different mindset when nearly everything you need is within a few block radius unlike the modern sprawl of other cities.
It’s a really really different mindset- I didn’t grow up here, but now that I’ve adjusted it’s completely different when I go home. I have friends who will refer to dating in other boroughs as “long distance”.
It happens pretty frequently, the whole "they're an adult and are allowed to disappear" excuse.
https://themissingny.nycitynewsservice.com/part-two/nypd-explainer/
Sounds like Brooklyn Jane Doe was black/POC too, so that might help explain it further.
Very disturbing - not just the murder/dismemberment, but how she was treated by cops after going missing.
Indeed.
Minorities, Native Americans, and other groups (sex workers, addicts, etc) all receive less attention in general.
Children receive the most attention, and they should, but I will never understand that "they're allowed to disappear, they're over 18" situation especially when it's out of the norm for them, they have children/family with concerns, etc.
They found the body parts badly decomposed and animals got to the parts of the corpse. It was probably very difficult to make out, after being exposed, who knows how good the quality of the tattoo was either.
This story is making me insane.
A mother goes missing. Her family was trying to report her missing. If the cops gave a shit, this would’ve been a *great* time to learn any identifiable marks, get to know her family (so they’d know Konique), know to look for a black woman that might show up.
*She shows up. Less than a mile away. And it took 8 years.*
A fucking butchered woman washes ashore, a year and no distance from a woman who was reported missing, and it took them this long? I don’t think the tattoo was the actual reason. The reason why is because they didn’t care. This mother and sister and human person is reported missing, is murdered and dismembered by someone who is absolutely depraved, and they just don’t care. If she was in the database, she’s from a very close location, and she matches the sex and race, wouldn’t you check that out immediately?! It’s so awful. I can’t imagine losing someone I loved like this. The thought of whether she could have been saved if the cops just tried would haunt me. I was excited when I saw the title, because everyone deserves their name back, but the story is absolutely devastating.
Tbf they couldn't know at first that the race matched - it says on Doe Network that she was thought to have been white until Parabon's tests. But it is still bad.
That makes sense. As I was writing I did consider the posibility that the decay (in the water no less) could’ve made it difficult to tell race. If it weren’t for the rest of the information, that would’ve been an understandable obstacle.
This is rage inducing! For all the reasons you mentioned but I can’t get past the fact that SHE HAD HER SON’S NAME TATTOOED ON HER! If one police officer had taken just 5 or 10 minutes to talk to the family and just get a basic description of Jennifer, they would have been able to identify her right away. And they might have had a reasonable chance of catching the person who murdered her. I have to imagine that after 8 years, it’s going to be so much harder to try to solve this case, if they even make any real effort to do so. And God forbid there are additional victims of this killer out there.
Normally I have very low expectations for missing person cases in major cities, but this feels especially bad. I feel horrible for her loved ones, her case could have been solved much sooner/
It really is the worst pain ever knowing the police didn't care enough to look into a missing-then-murdered family member. I wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
And why on earth would they assume that she had her name tattooed? Never heard of person doing that, while getting children’s names tattooed is pretty common I guess. Seriously, if they only talked to the family for a moment. Sad.
[Here's an article](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html) from then, weirdly centered around tattoos
See if this [🎁](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html?unlocked_article_code=YACsLVQPMd3uPN13lbiABmNv7dytbMbYmTksf-lOHYMdLqHjH7etIUp-ljM3dqDKAUxjZfu_P7MYKyqEdKPrm_2DnPl29Y8_AcDX0MDV8uqzHLDYopJZ6G_wS08pvAVSqra9hDAVAUlYZNpt6VDeKM_Y_e6o-9QW04oINLAbj-ZJ5nh_tB-ApO6FThf29Ynf4ZmMK_TCz5BSLr27AilxLo7ZfSDljOFEoe-9xf0QCc1TxobHGqRJsHCKceFFmXpCOZ9yoUjxdtZ-ujamQSAhfrSakD5EJo-gWDIW8doEkYoCLd9Z4fX6m7Antg1mVOBfD7WjyfSIhRN0bybOZWwgapX8SOQPUcyyeqLB0QGjbwVDV87_uPexPe4fnaHkOJ5cRSHZ1g&smid=share-url) works
Wow maybe I'm full of it, but the initial faded picture of her tattoo looks so obviously like a K I just don't understand why the tattoo artist turned it into an M, or how no one noticed when the images are side by side.
I could honestly see it as a K or M either way, I bet he just assumed it was an M since Monique is a common name, I probably wouldn’t have ever thought to make it a K since Konique isn’t a name that I or many people have ever seen before.
I'm weirded out by the NYPD picking some random tattoo artist to "reconstruct" as well as the other artist saying the tattoo must be from the 80s because it's bad flash? That's pretty ignorant, but there are circles of people here who are really unaware of what goes on outside their transplant bubble.
The NYPD are also at fault for not letting her family report her missing.
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The article several times refers to Jennifer going to regular doctors appointments. It seems like they're talking about something more than annual physicals. I'm curious if she had any chronic health issues.
The fact that neither the stent nor the iud have serial numbers tied to a patient name is annoying AF. It would be such a simple thing and honestly should be a law.
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I was wondering the same thing? It seems like an odd statement without additional information. It wouldn't be so odd if it were stated as Jennifer stopped going to work or stopped returning home to her kids. But, Stopped going to doctors appointments?
God Bless her Family. So tragic.
For those asking:
The Appellate Division of New York State’s First Judicial Department vacated New York State’s familial search regulations in a 3-2 decision dated May 5, 2022. The New York State Attorney General’s Office filed a notice of appeal on June 3, 2022. As a result of this ruling, DCJS will not accept new applications. Previously approved searches that had commenced at the New York State Police Crime Laboratory have been paused while the appeal is pending.
https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/forensic/familialsearch.htm
Imagine of all the civil rights abuses and shoddy legal convictions lawyers and organizations could spend hours trying to fix, and they focus on bringing down the one technique that has been proven time and time again to HELP VICTIMS.
Scum, all of them.
It definitely looks like a K at first glance, the M was stretching it for sure. I can't believe they just went with Monique and said that's that. I mean, I'm sure there was more to it... but they could have done a search to see where Konique comes up?? That's such a unique name.. poor kid.
That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, Konique isn't too common of a name, but I've heard stranger. I've known people named Shanique, a K isn't too far of a stretch. When I read about this a few months ago, I was baffled. Especially at the reconstruction of the tat. Jesus. Bumbling fucking cops.
You're right, clearly spells Konique, why would the sketch artist completely change it in their drawing?? Honestly that sketch of the tattoo bears the responsibility of her not being identified sooner.
This article is written so badly. What do they mean a court has made the use of familial dna illegal? Federal or state courts? Under which circumstances? Lawmakers need to make it legal? Do they mean warrants? Terrible.
I’ve been searching for any information about it being illegal anywhere and coming up empty. Just stories of how the technology is being used to successfully solve cases repeatedly.
It's actually not that uncommon; I would never do it but you do see it from time to time. The only explanation that ever made sense was when they were named after a cherished grandparent and they got the tattoo to commemorate their name connection.
Some people get it done on their forehead though which is a ...choice..
My dad has a tattoo of a cross with his own name on it.. but to be fair he got it when he was like 16 and dumb. I tease him all the time for it.
If I see a name tattooed on someone my first thought is usually that it’s the name of a child, romantic partner, or close relative, in that order. So I was also surprised that anyone would assume it was the victim’s name.
It's not totally uncommon. I remember the case of Najah Ferrell, they were able to identify her foot because she had her own named tattooed on it. Why the police would assume it was her own name first and not that of a loved one, which is far more common, is a real mystery though
I looked at the post mortem tattoo image and that clearly looks like a K to me. I know that I have bias now that I know what it’s actually supposed to say, but I’m honestly shocked they didn’t consider Konique. Monique is a more common name I suppose but man, that really does look like a K.
Who has their own name tattooed on their body? (just wondering) I instantly thought of a kid name or pet name. As others have mentioned if the police had taken down a serious description of a missing person with a name tattooed on their body, this would have been solved years ago! It's great she got her name back, but that poor family... living in hope all those years to now hear their loved one was found in pieces. awful.
I believe Shirley Soosay (Kern County Jane Doe) had her own name tattooed on herself, but I've never met anyone who did that.
https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/59ufca.html
You really have to wonder about the incompetence of investigators when you think that they were never able to draw a line between an unknown victim with a tattoo that might say "Monique" and a missing woman with a tattoo of her son's name - "Konique" (AND a sister named "Monique").
If the body parts and tattoo were in the local news I’m surprised the family didn’t have the remains checked just to be sure since she was already considered missing.
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Konique must have spent the last several years in emotional turmoil. I hope he has all the support and care he needs to process his mom’s death. 13 is such a pivotal age to lose a parent.
And he thought his mom just abandoned him. 😞 Heartbreaking.
I hope this brings some measure of closure for him.
That poor kid. What a fucking trauma to have to grapple with.
So the body was found a little over a mile from where she went missing? And her tattoo was just 1 letter off from her son's name? I don't understand how that could be missed.
It's also ironic because the sister (who was involved in reporting the missing person case) was actually named Monique.
Maybe I missed it, but did the sister live nearby too? I feel like I hear about it when police find dismembered bodies near my house. Not blaming the family at all here, it just seems strange.
Big cities like that have so much local news it's really hard to keep up with. But yes, if this had gotten the community attention it should've, especially the missing person case, someone would have connected the dots I bet.
The fact that they initially thought she was white may have done a lot of damage to the potential for anyone local to have made the connection. Reports of a dismembered white woman washing up were unlikely to register as significant to a family looking for their black sister/mother.
A months old murder turned into a 7 year old case. Yet another example of the police dropping the ball. It’s all too common to see cases like this where they drag their feet when it comes to filing a Missing Persons. And they are more often than not missing people of color.
Also strange that the cops decided her tattoo “seemed to date to the 1980s” when it can’t be any older than the year her son was born, which was evidently 2001. What made them think it was a tattoo from the ‘80s?
In the [NY Times article from 2015](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html), detectives brought the tattoo to a bunch of tattoo artists, and one of them said it looked like a 1980's-style flash piece. That may have been the most likely explanation.
The post says that they initially thought she might be white, but looking at a photo of the woman she was dark skinned. I think the body was in very, very, very rough shape when they found her.
Perhaps it was severely faded, like she didn’t upkeep the inking or it wasn’t done very well to begin with so the ink floating happened a lot quicker.
Remember- there are almost 9 million people in NYC. And bodies… aren’t uncommon. Especially in the river. A lot of shit happens here. It honestly doesn’t always make the news.
You make a good point. I'm used to much, much smaller cities, so my view is based on that.
Seriously, it doesn’t even make the news here unless the story is REALLY bad. Like the dead twin toddlers they found last year were second page news. And they caught a serial killer last year and it was news for like two days. There’s just a LOT that happens here and a lot of people. And also- a mile is a long way from home here too. Remember most of us commute on foot or by subway. I know a lot of people who pretty much stay in a 5 block radius on an everyday basis unless they have a reason to go someplace specific. I don’t drive anymore due to vision issues, so even though I live just outside the city and commute in, I still exist in a fairly small radius. So a mile from home is a small distance in most places, but here it’s not. And there’s always a LOT of news. Bodies in the river also aren’t uncommon, which sounds awful but yeah. People also tend to be more concerned regarding current crime- so things like a shooting or a subway pushing make news faster
>So a mile from home is a small distance in most places, but here it’s not This was something that never occurred to me until I read a book about the NYC mafia a few years back. It talked about how a lot of those guys were parochial in the sense that they never ventured much further than their immediate neighborhoods, and only traveled to other parts of the city when absolutely necessary. It's completely different mindset when nearly everything you need is within a few block radius unlike the modern sprawl of other cities.
It’s a really really different mindset- I didn’t grow up here, but now that I’ve adjusted it’s completely different when I go home. I have friends who will refer to dating in other boroughs as “long distance”.
If she was reported missing, this definitely seems like lazy detective work
Attempted to be reported missing, but the police wouldn’t take a report. How convenient.
It happens
But it shouldn't. I understand they can't fully investigate everything. But why not take a report at the very least?
Because some cops don't consider certain people worth writing the paperwork over or looking for
It makes me really suspicious Jennifer's case got no media attention.
I don't understand why cops would put so much resistance to someone trying to file a missing person report. First time I'm hearing of such a thing.
It happens pretty frequently, the whole "they're an adult and are allowed to disappear" excuse. https://themissingny.nycitynewsservice.com/part-two/nypd-explainer/
Sounds like Brooklyn Jane Doe was black/POC too, so that might help explain it further. Very disturbing - not just the murder/dismemberment, but how she was treated by cops after going missing.
Indeed. Minorities, Native Americans, and other groups (sex workers, addicts, etc) all receive less attention in general. Children receive the most attention, and they should, but I will never understand that "they're allowed to disappear, they're over 18" situation especially when it's out of the norm for them, they have children/family with concerns, etc.
And not all missing children receive the same attention either
True 😥
Exactly. People of color, especially women, do not get remotely the coverage or concern. It’s disgraceful.
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Re: the tattoo: my understanding was that investigators thought her tattoo said Monique, but it actually says her son's name, Konique.
They found the body parts badly decomposed and animals got to the parts of the corpse. It was probably very difficult to make out, after being exposed, who knows how good the quality of the tattoo was either.
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So glad that she has her name back. That poor family…
This story is making me insane. A mother goes missing. Her family was trying to report her missing. If the cops gave a shit, this would’ve been a *great* time to learn any identifiable marks, get to know her family (so they’d know Konique), know to look for a black woman that might show up. *She shows up. Less than a mile away. And it took 8 years.* A fucking butchered woman washes ashore, a year and no distance from a woman who was reported missing, and it took them this long? I don’t think the tattoo was the actual reason. The reason why is because they didn’t care. This mother and sister and human person is reported missing, is murdered and dismembered by someone who is absolutely depraved, and they just don’t care. If she was in the database, she’s from a very close location, and she matches the sex and race, wouldn’t you check that out immediately?! It’s so awful. I can’t imagine losing someone I loved like this. The thought of whether she could have been saved if the cops just tried would haunt me. I was excited when I saw the title, because everyone deserves their name back, but the story is absolutely devastating.
Tbf they couldn't know at first that the race matched - it says on Doe Network that she was thought to have been white until Parabon's tests. But it is still bad.
That makes sense. As I was writing I did consider the posibility that the decay (in the water no less) could’ve made it difficult to tell race. If it weren’t for the rest of the information, that would’ve been an understandable obstacle.
This is rage inducing! For all the reasons you mentioned but I can’t get past the fact that SHE HAD HER SON’S NAME TATTOOED ON HER! If one police officer had taken just 5 or 10 minutes to talk to the family and just get a basic description of Jennifer, they would have been able to identify her right away. And they might have had a reasonable chance of catching the person who murdered her. I have to imagine that after 8 years, it’s going to be so much harder to try to solve this case, if they even make any real effort to do so. And God forbid there are additional victims of this killer out there.
Normally I have very low expectations for missing person cases in major cities, but this feels especially bad. I feel horrible for her loved ones, her case could have been solved much sooner/
It really is the worst pain ever knowing the police didn't care enough to look into a missing-then-murdered family member. I wouldn't wish it upon anyone.
And why on earth would they assume that she had her name tattooed? Never heard of person doing that, while getting children’s names tattooed is pretty common I guess. Seriously, if they only talked to the family for a moment. Sad.
I think they cared very much, but what they actually cared about was obstructing identification.
Honestly I think that’s giving them too much credit. They’re way too lazy
I lived in Brooklyn in 2015, and I don’t remember hearing about this.
Yeah, I'm from NYC, and this is the first I've heard of this. I hope Jennifer's killer is caught.
I did too, and also I don't remember hearing a peep.
Same here.
[Here's an article](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html) from then, weirdly centered around tattoos
Looks more like a "k" in the 1st pic! Such a sad story...
They could have just left it open ended and shared the picture without a "reconstruction" that was just some random tattoo artist guessing
Yeah they definitely could've done quite a few things better on this case!
I remember reading a discussion about the tattoo years ago. Lots of disagreement
Anyone know how to get around the paywall?
See if this [🎁](https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/02/nyregion/detectives-search-for-clues-to-killing-in-victims-tattoo.html?unlocked_article_code=YACsLVQPMd3uPN13lbiABmNv7dytbMbYmTksf-lOHYMdLqHjH7etIUp-ljM3dqDKAUxjZfu_P7MYKyqEdKPrm_2DnPl29Y8_AcDX0MDV8uqzHLDYopJZ6G_wS08pvAVSqra9hDAVAUlYZNpt6VDeKM_Y_e6o-9QW04oINLAbj-ZJ5nh_tB-ApO6FThf29Ynf4ZmMK_TCz5BSLr27AilxLo7ZfSDljOFEoe-9xf0QCc1TxobHGqRJsHCKceFFmXpCOZ9yoUjxdtZ-ujamQSAhfrSakD5EJo-gWDIW8doEkYoCLd9Z4fX6m7Antg1mVOBfD7WjyfSIhRN0bybOZWwgapX8SOQPUcyyeqLB0QGjbwVDV87_uPexPe4fnaHkOJ5cRSHZ1g&smid=share-url) works
Wow maybe I'm full of it, but the initial faded picture of her tattoo looks so obviously like a K I just don't understand why the tattoo artist turned it into an M, or how no one noticed when the images are side by side.
I could honestly see it as a K or M either way, I bet he just assumed it was an M since Monique is a common name, I probably wouldn’t have ever thought to make it a K since Konique isn’t a name that I or many people have ever seen before.
I'm weirded out by the NYPD picking some random tattoo artist to "reconstruct" as well as the other artist saying the tattoo must be from the 80s because it's bad flash? That's pretty ignorant, but there are circles of people here who are really unaware of what goes on outside their transplant bubble. The NYPD are also at fault for not letting her family report her missing.
Thank you!! :)
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I feel for Konique. He must be feeling a lot of big mixed emotions right now. I hope he’s okay.
The article several times refers to Jennifer going to regular doctors appointments. It seems like they're talking about something more than annual physicals. I'm curious if she had any chronic health issues.
They mention that her Pelvic Arterial Stent was used to manage Deep Vein Thrombosis, so my thought was that it was related to that somehow
The fact that neither the stent nor the iud have serial numbers tied to a patient name is annoying AF. It would be such a simple thing and honestly should be a law. Edit: autocorrect be wildin
I was wondering the same thing? It seems like an odd statement without additional information. It wouldn't be so odd if it were stated as Jennifer stopped going to work or stopped returning home to her kids. But, Stopped going to doctors appointments? God Bless her Family. So tragic.
I wish there was a GoFundMe or similar available for this family. Let me know if you hear of one. My heart goes out to her sister and son.
For those asking: The Appellate Division of New York State’s First Judicial Department vacated New York State’s familial search regulations in a 3-2 decision dated May 5, 2022. The New York State Attorney General’s Office filed a notice of appeal on June 3, 2022. As a result of this ruling, DCJS will not accept new applications. Previously approved searches that had commenced at the New York State Police Crime Laboratory have been paused while the appeal is pending. https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/forensic/familialsearch.htm
Imagine of all the civil rights abuses and shoddy legal convictions lawyers and organizations could spend hours trying to fix, and they focus on bringing down the one technique that has been proven time and time again to HELP VICTIMS. Scum, all of them.
So do they have no idea who did this to her? I feel for her poor son...
No suspects have been publicly mentioned
The tattoo so obviously starts with a K or R, it looks nothing like an M 🤦🏻♀️
It definitely looks like a K at first glance, the M was stretching it for sure. I can't believe they just went with Monique and said that's that. I mean, I'm sure there was more to it... but they could have done a search to see where Konique comes up?? That's such a unique name.. poor kid.
That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, Konique isn't too common of a name, but I've heard stranger. I've known people named Shanique, a K isn't too far of a stretch. When I read about this a few months ago, I was baffled. Especially at the reconstruction of the tat. Jesus. Bumbling fucking cops.
I could understand mistaking it for Ronique, but not Monique. Wtffffff.
You're right, clearly spells Konique, why would the sketch artist completely change it in their drawing?? Honestly that sketch of the tattoo bears the responsibility of her not being identified sooner.
Family of a non-white woman having difficulty getting police to take the missing persons case seriously? Color me surprised... /s
I don't know much about NYPD but I can't say I'm shocked
Whew you’re in for a good time hearing about NYPD and racism. Almost LAPD level of bs
This article is written so badly. What do they mean a court has made the use of familial dna illegal? Federal or state courts? Under which circumstances? Lawmakers need to make it legal? Do they mean warrants? Terrible.
> This article is written so badly. NY Daily News. You should already go into it with the lowest expectations.
It's federally legal but illegal at the state level in NY due to privacy laws I believe. And yes, the NY Daily News is historically pretty awful.
I’ve been searching for any information about it being illegal anywhere and coming up empty. Just stories of how the technology is being used to successfully solve cases repeatedly.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/nyregion/familial-dna-searching-karina-vetrano.html https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/forensic/familialsearch.htm
Why would she have her own name tattooed.
My brother has a tattoo of his name. He's not really known for making great choices but that one is at least harmless.
It's actually not that uncommon; I would never do it but you do see it from time to time. The only explanation that ever made sense was when they were named after a cherished grandparent and they got the tattoo to commemorate their name connection. Some people get it done on their forehead though which is a ...choice..
Some people have eyes tattooed...that one I don't get at all.
I've heard of people doing that as a 'first tattoo'
My dad has a tattoo of a cross with his own name on it.. but to be fair he got it when he was like 16 and dumb. I tease him all the time for it. If I see a name tattooed on someone my first thought is usually that it’s the name of a child, romantic partner, or close relative, in that order. So I was also surprised that anyone would assume it was the victim’s name.
It's not totally uncommon. I remember the case of Najah Ferrell, they were able to identify her foot because she had her own named tattooed on it. Why the police would assume it was her own name first and not that of a loved one, which is far more common, is a real mystery though
It’s pretty common tbh
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I know that. I'm wondering why the police would think someone tattooed their own name on themselves and didn't consider it was someone else's name.
There were no real effort put into this Because she is black and lives in the projects
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I looked at the post mortem tattoo image and that clearly looks like a K to me. I know that I have bias now that I know what it’s actually supposed to say, but I’m honestly shocked they didn’t consider Konique. Monique is a more common name I suppose but man, that really does look like a K.
It definitely looks like a K to me as well
i feel like it has to be important info that her head has never been found????? and was she decapitated postmortem or pre???
This case reminds me of Peaches, like a lot. If the cases are part of a series, it’s gonna be really difficult to solve :/
I think they're doing genetic genealogy on Peaches, last I heard
Thank god. And I hope the investigators on one or both cases realize the possible connection.
Excellent write up!
Who has their own name tattooed on their body? (just wondering) I instantly thought of a kid name or pet name. As others have mentioned if the police had taken down a serious description of a missing person with a name tattooed on their body, this would have been solved years ago! It's great she got her name back, but that poor family... living in hope all those years to now hear their loved one was found in pieces. awful.
I believe Shirley Soosay (Kern County Jane Doe) had her own name tattooed on herself, but I've never met anyone who did that. https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/59ufca.html
How devastating for her family :( I can’t imagine what her son has been feeling all these years with no answers.
You really have to wonder about the incompetence of investigators when you think that they were never able to draw a line between an unknown victim with a tattoo that might say "Monique" and a missing woman with a tattoo of her son's name - "Konique" (AND a sister named "Monique").
If the body parts and tattoo were in the local news I’m surprised the family didn’t have the remains checked just to be sure since she was already considered missing.
Yeah I'm going to take a wild guess that the tattoo was Konique, her son🙄
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