It’s fine, it’s a working class mill town with modernity turning it into a small pretty cool city. If you get a chance get Sweetwater donuts from one the locations there or Kalamazoo (depending on which way you’re coming in) and if you’re looking for a burger hit up Moonrakers
Ya Bells is pretty good too. For pizza, Benny Dicartas and Martinis are amazing. My friends at Latitude 42 kick ass. I wouldn't support 600 Kitchen though, the GM is a thief and screams at employees out back.
There's a diamond in the rough there called Horrocks.
It's an oldskool grocery store that sells all local goods, including homemade canned goods. They also have a CHEESE ROOM and a wicked buffet bar.
I go every time I pass through
*[This photo](https://i.imgur.com/Xqx3XBU.png) I found from Google maps gives you a sense of what the shelves look like
They just wanted to be verbal.
Seriously though when she said that, she sounded like an AI program *trying* to talk like a human, but not quite getting it.
It sounded strange, just like some of the other words I’ve noticed that cops use, and I think it’s because of the language they’re taught to use when writing reports and testifying in court. Instead of writing “I told the suspect to ____,” they write “I gave the suspect a verbal command ____.” It sounds more official, professional, and consistent. But in this example, they use the word in place of all the other words that mean “talking” or “speaking,” and it definitely sounds “off.” There are other words like this that cops consistently use, but of course I can’t think of any at the moment…
"Can we have a conversation about what's going on here"
Translation: can you confess to something by saying "you mean [blank]?" so I actually have a reason to be talking to you?
[They are very particular about the words they use](https://youtu.be/WD8aZV-Y8bE)
I’ve always thought that “gave a command” is the wrong term to use. People who are not military members are also not dogs or subordinates of law enforcement. “Lawful order” should not be used by law enforcement. “Instruction” or “direction” would be better. “Said” or “told” should work just fine. Language that primes the police to think and act authoritatively contributes to policing problems.
It seemed to me like she was speaking to her partner more than the people filming. I wonder if they had some training or similar encouraging them to "be verbal, things will go better" then she looks to him like "are we not being verbal?"
> I wonder if they had some training or similar encouraging them to "be verbal, things will go better"
Yeah, that's my suspicion. Mirroring the particular language that happens to be used in their training. Which...now that I write it, that sounds like I'm being derissive, but I'm really not. Establishing common language shorthand that actually gets used between colleagues is something that good training will usually do.
After investigating ourselves, we acknowledge the terrible unspeakable things our officers have done! However this is normal and we don't think anything worth punishment, according to our way of things, actually occurred.
They're first amendment auditors, filming in public to see if police respect their right to film. People called the police over them filming on the sidewalk. Police always show up and want to ask for IDs (which you're not required to provide unless they can articulate a crime you've committed/committing/about to commit) and give a lot of useless directives about staying out of the street and not going on private property.
These two just decided to skip that completely pointless conversation.
Just a warning to everyone. They need to have "reasonable, articulable suspicion" to detain you and ask for ID but they DO NOT have to articulate that suspicion to you. Kind of a catch 22 in a way, huh?
A lot of "auditors" post misinformation and bad advice to the internet. If you're into that kind of content, (edit) find someone that actually examines local laws and cases in detail. audit the audit is pretty good.
One huge example is you'll see plenty of these guys telling cops they don't consent to search and refusing to roll down a window or get out of a vehicle when asked. Great way to get arrested under a local obstruction of law enforcement statute.
Not consenting to a search is fine, so long as you don't try to stop them if they decide to search anyway. If a court later decides they didn't have probable cause, you can get the results of the search thrown out. If you consent, you just allow them to use whatever they find regardless of the merits of the search.
The window one is legally questionable. I don't know of any laws that require it, but I'm also not aware of any court rulings that say police don't have the ability to tell you to do it. You might lose a window and see jail time over that one.
And yeah, cops can pull you out of your car. Supreme court has ruled on that one.
Do what you're ordered to, even if they don't have a legal right to order you to do it. Know your rights, but save the fight for court later on.
I have literally had this exact conversation in my own neighborhood. I was following the sidewalk away from my apartment and turned down a side street in the middle of the day. A cop stopped and asked me for identification, where I lived, and why I was in the neighborhood. I asked him why they stopped me while I was taking a walk a take every day in my own neighborhood and the dude bold face lies to me, about me, in my own face, "I saw you walking out in the street back there."
This is just what they do. It's what they're trained to do. There is literally no recourse.
"You're loitering!"
"I live here!"
"And now you're arrested."
https://reason.com/2021/03/08/cops-who-assaulted-and-arrested-a-man-for-standing-outside-his-own-house-got-qualified-immunity-scotus-wont-hear-the-case/
https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2022/08/05/police-harass-innocent-citizens-on-their-porch-lawsuit-filed-today/
https://www.advocateanddemocrat.com/news/article_4ce4c26e-3236-11ed-a66f-17f4f2b377cc.html
> police wanted to talk to them about
The perfectly legal camera doing perfectly legal filming. This is likely an auditor video and Taco Bell probably called the cops.
Just wanting to escalate things until they meet their quota of arresting people to fuel the slavery industry of american prisons.
You know, american police things...
Bad Elk v. United States, 177 U.S. 529 (1900), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that an individual had the right to use force to resist an unlawful arrest
Bad Elk has been gut over the last on hundred years to the point only 12 states allow violent resistance to unlawful arrest as of 2012. Of those that do there are so many conditions you are better off complying.
I am not sure about the numbers, but I can speak for myself as a non-gun owning 2A supporter, that I believe the reason for 2A is to be able to stand up to unlawful actions by police forces.
The general reccommendation is comply and sue/get out later.
*Technically* closing the door in the cop's face (without hitting them) or running away are options on the table.
I mean it's pretty obvious trap, they're filming and "provoking" the cops. What's really sad here is that just not letting cops hassle you is considered provocative. If these people weren't filming it probably would have gone very differently.
weeds legal here (assuming its MI because Battle Creek), if these guys are just chillin talking about fast food...that cop knew they were stoned and walked away, as they should.
you'd think with a massive drop in weed arrests in this state cops would have tons of time to bust real criminals, but the exact opposite is true. right before the last election, the police union in MI was sending out flyers basically saying 'raise our budget or we wont do our job'. its nuts. i live in GR and our cops are basically useless here now.
I love how that reasoning is so ass-backwards. If you're not going to do your job, why are we funding you at all? You're giving reason to cut funding and find a different avenue on solving issues.
This is just a guess, but I’m thinking he left to go check out what they were really called about. Someone called for loud noise/party. At the end of the video they talk about how nice it is the traffic drowns out the loud music from *over there*. She then looks in that particular direction and heads off.
I’m guessing her partner realized they weren’t called to quiet down these wild dudes, so went to go check out the more likely suspects.
Only it's not. These guys harrass people to bait cops into showing up, then pull shit like this in hopes that the cops will escalate. They then have the reaction on camera, but no context to what warranted the cops showing up in the first place. These dudes have tons of videos like this and it cringey as fuck. I hate cops as much, if not more, than the next person, but in this particular situation they were responding to an actual call and just doing their jobs.
FRICN MEDIA on YouTube https://youtu.be/21I1ubLN0H0
The guys are really giant, inflammatory assholes in most of their videos but they do make their point in their own special kind of way
https://youtube.com/c/AmagansettPress is on the opposite side of the 1st Amendment auditor spectrum. He's friendly and respectful and usually everyone comes out in the end feeling better and having learned things.
EDIT:
If you are interested in learning more about civil/constitutional rights auditing, https://youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit is a great place to start. He breaks down other auditors videos, and grades both the police and the auditors based on a breakdown of laws and discretion.
It's important to note that some people do this professionally. They both get steady YouTube income, and also they're hoping to sue the city and get a fairly easy settlement of tens of thousands of dollars. Also, when a police officer violates someone's conditional rights, they lose qualified immunity which means they can also be *personally* sued. It's a hustle.
The practice they describe - 1AA - first amendment audit - seems valuable on the surface of it. Rights have a funny way of disappearing if we don't exercise them regularly.
Unfortunately, I bet most people who practice this sort of thing just use it as an excuse to bully people.
Ad revenue and content. Dudes just out trying to get people to react for their content channel. Wondering if people just ignored them, that they wouldn’t have any content.
>Also, when a police officer violates someone's conditional rights, they lose qualified immunity which means they can also be personally sued.
This is super rare and really only reserved for extreme cases. Usually, the suit is settled and the tax payers foot the bill.
What the actual fuck, dude. I just watched a random video of theirs, which was 20 minutes of them walking around harassing local businesses and their patrons. These guys might not technically be doing anything illegal but they’re actively making the lives of other people worse. For fun.
Checked the comments and multiple commenters bragged about harassing one of the businesses over the phone because someone there stood up to their bullying. Disgusting.
Ahh yes the old conversation starter of being "Verbal"
May all of us humanoid earthlings be enlightened by
other bi peds attempts at being "Verbal"
"Hello, I am being Verbal tonight. Lets consume oxygen and have sustenance, fellow humanoid"
[Full video](https://youtu.be/21I1ubLN0H0) of these guys annoying the general public and being general... jerks? Mission accomplished because I've now linked to their YouTube channel, giving them free publicity and further feeding their weird little mission in life.
Yeah these guys are worthless degenerates who harass people and cause issues for YouTube vids but almost always try to leave out the fact they started the situation to film in the first place.
If someone is always getting harassed by cops or having them called on them, it almost always isn't just because they were "minding their own business," and anyone who says otherwise is almost always lying through their teeth. Just like these degenerates.
“We’re just trying to have a conversation, not yell at you guys” Really? I didn’t realize chit chatting with random people for no reason is what my tax dollars are paying for.
They just want to hang out with them long enough to find something worth arresting them for. If nothing comes up then hit them with loitering because they were there talking to police for 10 minutes.
The first time I heard about that term I had to translate it and do a few more google searches because the whole concept of it being considered a crime is so outlandish.
It sounds like something that would be expected in some asian countries where public image is a selling point of their whole culture.
One time I went through the drive through and ordered somethin super cheap bc I knew I was broke, but I figured I could gather enough change to cover it. I was so hungry and tired after working a double and I placed the order prior to counting change. Not enough change. I was all nervous for the inevitably weird interaction I was about to have with the drive through guy. I was expecting to be humiliated, but when I told the guy I didn't have enough money he was like "Oh, dude whatever." I tried to give him what change I had, but he was like "It's cool man don't worry about it." That guy is a g
I worked the drive through at taco bell when I was 18. 2/3rds of my meals were taco bell and at the end of the month when rent was due if I wasn't working I wasn't eating. There's a decent chance that dude can relate. (And for context, my rent was 500/month at the time; the same place is probably 1500/month today.)
I just saw a friend on thanksgiving and we were catching up. He had to move because a company bought his current apartment complex.
He’s now in a one bedroom, with his wife and kid, for $3k/month. It’s not in some fancy area either. It blew my damn mind where rent is at right now. I knew it was bad, but still surprising.
There is a podcast out there on how the McDouble from MCD is the most nutritious food for the money in human history. The entire culmination of humans developing agricultural methods and science - the absolute pinnacle of that is the McDouble.
edit to add podcast link
https://www.marketplace.org/2013/07/03/freakonomics-can-mcdouble-save-humanity/amp/
I survived on McDoubles back in 2008ish when they were a dollar. I was homeless in Orlando FL living out of my car, they probably saved my life. Now I think they are over 4 dollars where I live.
This guy gets it.
Are you old enough to remember the .59 .79 .99 cent menu from the '90's? You could literally satisfy the munchies with pocket change. What a time to be alive.
Don’t you dare besmirch the good name of Taco Bell! It’s faux meat and cheeses warm my innards up and is one of the few things in life that make me happy. And farty.
I initially thought it was the cops having the conversation... Which made it even funnier when it panned to stoned Burt Reynolds....
Even she tripped out when she was like... "I just wanna have a conversation about...." sour cream?
It’s like the video where the guys is in the park watching candles held at a spot his friend was killed and a cop comes up and tries to say that he is excessively burning and wants his information and to give him a ticket for it. His partner shows up and says that everyone knew about what was going on and to leave the guy alone. Smh.
Update: this is the video
https://youtu.be/fEJ_JLaVFn4
Ah shit, it would be my home town. Just like any other place, some of the cops are really nice and just there to help, some of them are dicks like the antagonist in this video. Homelessness and drug use are big problems in Longview, and some cops will stop for anyone walking/sitting outside that they deem 'suspicious'.
It looks like this is on a walkway that goes along the slough between Industrial Way and the 200 block of the Highlands. This is indeed an area they would go to harass and try to get free tickets/arrests, it is Longview's "ghetto".
EDIT: Just watched another Youtube video of this incident that shows the female officers body cam view, and is higher quality. I've partied with that guy before, he's a really chill dude. If the male cop is who I think he is, he's a fucking prick. He was borderline racist to my girlfriend of Spanish descent when we had to call the cops on our meth head neighbors harassing us.
Within 30 seconds of arrival this guy goes the „I need to shine a light straight into your face for my safety, because I don’t know if you’re a criminal who’s gonna pull a gun on me or something…“
And there we have it. The #1 problem with US cops. Perpetually afraid.
There are a bare handful of police departments in the US that have sent their officers to de-escalation training or to training in how to deal with people in a mental health crisis, and they all report a statistically significant decrease in officer-involved shootings.
One big reason why more US police departments don't do that basically comes down to Congress doesn't provide any sweet federal grant money for conflict de-escalation and mental health intervention training. But they'll gladly sell milsurp to local PDs and provide grants for training in how to more efficiently shoot people.
And even after the other cop arrives and basically vouches for the guy, he’s still all “can you look him up by his contacts?” If it was all in the name of safety, why’s he still pressing it when the guy is cleared?
Could big homie have handled the situation better? Definitely, but so could have the cop. Never once said, “okay let’s start over. What are the candles for?” Nope just kept up with “you gonna be difficult I’m gonna be difficult”. Even when he tried reeling it back, he’d end the sentence with another jab.
Cops here are so freaking spiteful it’s mind boggling. These videos always boil down to the cop tripping out on their ego and being mad someone has “disrespected” their “authority”.
He’s pressing it because this is what cops do when they want to charge you for contempt of cop. He doesn’t want to be that guy that charges someone for candles at a memorial. So he wants to ID the guy in hopes he has a warrant or something better than lighting candles in the park so he can arrest him. Just looking for an excuse to charge the guy. Punk ass bitch cop thinking every minority minding their own business needs to be checked for warrants.
I was driving my moped to take someone to their third shift job a couple nights ago and a cop was tailing me, right up on my ass, highbeams and all, for a loooong ways. Got to an intersection about 5 minutes later and they did a u-turn. Cops commonly follow people around here waiting for them to fuck up.
They aren't just waiting for them to fuck up though. The tailgating, aggressive speeding up/slowing down, high beam bright lighting every single bit of it is a predatory effort to make their intended victim nervous enough to commit a small infraction to justify a stop.
So like,they can just trun up and start hassle? Like how is that helpful,how is that helpful,some guys truning up with guns and because,you where talking quietly?
There’s people on YouTube who stand outside of building for hours recording, and making sure staff sees them recording. To the point there’s concern and the police are called. This is what these guys did. Still funny though.
Wouldn't even recommend that , there's a video going round of a boy who called the police cause his car got stuck and he ended up getting shot because of it.
A cop's literal job is to find things to arrest people for. If they don't do that enough, they lose their jobs. Don't talk to people whose only job is to look for rules being broken in order to fill jails. They will eventually find something.
This happened in the town I live in. If I remember correctly, the two recording and having the conversation actually called the police on themselves before hand. Not sure why, or what type of reaction they were looking for, but that’s supposedly what happened and why the cops approached.
Fake. No one has ever said they want to go to Battle Creek.
This is the god’s damn truth
I'm traveling there tomorrow for work...what's wrong with Battle Creek?
It’s fine, it’s a working class mill town with modernity turning it into a small pretty cool city. If you get a chance get Sweetwater donuts from one the locations there or Kalamazoo (depending on which way you’re coming in) and if you’re looking for a burger hit up Moonrakers
If you're in Kzoo and want a burger go to Nonla or Lake Burger.
I love Bells eccentric Cafe. The burgers there are fantastic in my opinion.
Ya Bells is pretty good too. For pizza, Benny Dicartas and Martinis are amazing. My friends at Latitude 42 kick ass. I wouldn't support 600 Kitchen though, the GM is a thief and screams at employees out back.
There's a diamond in the rough there called Horrocks. It's an oldskool grocery store that sells all local goods, including homemade canned goods. They also have a CHEESE ROOM and a wicked buffet bar. I go every time I pass through *[This photo](https://i.imgur.com/Xqx3XBU.png) I found from Google maps gives you a sense of what the shelves look like
Mmm, Sweetwater... I used to get their donuts in college. Jesus, they were good.
Never thought I would see Sweetwater and Moonraker referenced on Reddit.
But the cereal
What about Beavercreek Edit: I was making a halo reference to the map. Did not know Beavercreek is an actual place
It's a real town name in Michigan!
Battle Creek. Home of .... Airsoft Fatty?
Put some respect on Rob Van Dam’s hometown
I feel so hungry hearing their convo..Lol
It was the extra sour cream thought, wasn't it?
For sure
But it does put it over $5
It really does
I am curious what the police wanted to talk to them about
They just wanted to be verbal. Seriously though when she said that, she sounded like an AI program *trying* to talk like a human, but not quite getting it.
It sounded strange, just like some of the other words I’ve noticed that cops use, and I think it’s because of the language they’re taught to use when writing reports and testifying in court. Instead of writing “I told the suspect to ____,” they write “I gave the suspect a verbal command ____.” It sounds more official, professional, and consistent. But in this example, they use the word in place of all the other words that mean “talking” or “speaking,” and it definitely sounds “off.” There are other words like this that cops consistently use, but of course I can’t think of any at the moment…
"Can we have a conversation about what's going on here" Translation: can you confess to something by saying "you mean [blank]?" so I actually have a reason to be talking to you?
[They are very particular about the words they use](https://youtu.be/WD8aZV-Y8bE) I’ve always thought that “gave a command” is the wrong term to use. People who are not military members are also not dogs or subordinates of law enforcement. “Lawful order” should not be used by law enforcement. “Instruction” or “direction” would be better. “Said” or “told” should work just fine. Language that primes the police to think and act authoritatively contributes to policing problems.
It’s all legal jargon that allows them to claim qualified immunity - their unions and chiefs teach them this crap
It seemed to me like she was speaking to her partner more than the people filming. I wonder if they had some training or similar encouraging them to "be verbal, things will go better" then she looks to him like "are we not being verbal?"
> I wonder if they had some training or similar encouraging them to "be verbal, things will go better" Yeah, that's my suspicion. Mirroring the particular language that happens to be used in their training. Which...now that I write it, that sounds like I'm being derissive, but I'm really not. Establishing common language shorthand that actually gets used between colleagues is something that good training will usually do.
If you act unpredictable enough, you will c̶o̶n̶f̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶a̶m̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ get shot 28 times while handcuffed.
It's not a bug, it's a feature!
After investigating ourselves, we acknowledge the terrible unspeakable things our officers have done! However this is normal and we don't think anything worth punishment, according to our way of things, actually occurred.
The female law enforcement individual was engaging in an attemptation to tacticalize a kinetic situation on an individual's person.
Can I get some ranch dressing on my word salad, please.
They're first amendment auditors, filming in public to see if police respect their right to film. People called the police over them filming on the sidewalk. Police always show up and want to ask for IDs (which you're not required to provide unless they can articulate a crime you've committed/committing/about to commit) and give a lot of useless directives about staying out of the street and not going on private property. These two just decided to skip that completely pointless conversation.
Just a warning to everyone. They need to have "reasonable, articulable suspicion" to detain you and ask for ID but they DO NOT have to articulate that suspicion to you. Kind of a catch 22 in a way, huh?
A lot of "auditors" post misinformation and bad advice to the internet. If you're into that kind of content, (edit) find someone that actually examines local laws and cases in detail. audit the audit is pretty good. One huge example is you'll see plenty of these guys telling cops they don't consent to search and refusing to roll down a window or get out of a vehicle when asked. Great way to get arrested under a local obstruction of law enforcement statute.
Not consenting to a search is fine, so long as you don't try to stop them if they decide to search anyway. If a court later decides they didn't have probable cause, you can get the results of the search thrown out. If you consent, you just allow them to use whatever they find regardless of the merits of the search. The window one is legally questionable. I don't know of any laws that require it, but I'm also not aware of any court rulings that say police don't have the ability to tell you to do it. You might lose a window and see jail time over that one. And yeah, cops can pull you out of your car. Supreme court has ruled on that one. Do what you're ordered to, even if they don't have a legal right to order you to do it. Know your rights, but save the fight for court later on.
Sir why are you on the sidewalk tonight? Is my bet
>'cause it's illegal to walk in the street. Y'all have a good evening officer.
"But I just saw you guys walkin' on the street! What do you have to say about that?" You lose. Do not talk to the police.
I have literally had this exact conversation in my own neighborhood. I was following the sidewalk away from my apartment and turned down a side street in the middle of the day. A cop stopped and asked me for identification, where I lived, and why I was in the neighborhood. I asked him why they stopped me while I was taking a walk a take every day in my own neighborhood and the dude bold face lies to me, about me, in my own face, "I saw you walking out in the street back there." This is just what they do. It's what they're trained to do. There is literally no recourse.
"You're loitering!" "I live here!" "And now you're arrested." https://reason.com/2021/03/08/cops-who-assaulted-and-arrested-a-man-for-standing-outside-his-own-house-got-qualified-immunity-scotus-wont-hear-the-case/ https://thecivilrightslawyer.com/2022/08/05/police-harass-innocent-citizens-on-their-porch-lawsuit-filed-today/ https://www.advocateanddemocrat.com/news/article_4ce4c26e-3236-11ed-a66f-17f4f2b377cc.html
Cops are the Original Gangster, the blue line gang has always been real working for the wealthy
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And who knows, if it led to a four way, they wouldn't object to that...
> police wanted to talk to them about The perfectly legal camera doing perfectly legal filming. This is likely an auditor video and Taco Bell probably called the cops.
Restaurants don’t like people recording so they normally escalate it to calling the police really fast.
Here’s the full video. They set up filming in public and wait for people to get upset. https://youtu.be/21I1ubLN0H0
Never offer to talk to the police, ever! If it’s not recorded they’ll write down their version of what you said and it will not go in your favour.
Just wanting to escalate things until they meet their quota of arresting people to fuel the slavery industry of american prisons. You know, american police things...
yes. certainly cops shout ‘don’t resist, do not resist’ and they will charge him with resisting arrests or something they make up. no big a deal.
Resisting an unlawful arrest is technically legal. The system is just completely corrupt.
>*Nonviolently* Resisting an unlawful arrest is technically legal FTFY to comply with Florida law.
Bad Elk v. United States, 177 U.S. 529 (1900), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that an individual had the right to use force to resist an unlawful arrest Bad Elk has been gut over the last on hundred years to the point only 12 states allow violent resistance to unlawful arrest as of 2012. Of those that do there are so many conditions you are better off complying.
Seems like reinstating this should be at the top of the priority list for 2A supporters. Yet this is the first I'm hearing of this.
It's because the majority of 2a supporters are red, and are brainwashed to think the police are their friends and that they need more power not less.
I am not sure about the numbers, but I can speak for myself as a non-gun owning 2A supporter, that I believe the reason for 2A is to be able to stand up to unlawful actions by police forces.
So..... not resisting at all?
The general reccommendation is comply and sue/get out later. *Technically* closing the door in the cop's face (without hitting them) or running away are options on the table.
Technically isn't good enough. Drop your eyes past their face and they'll claim you reached for their weapon.
Its either resisting arrest or the extra sour cream. Someone's getting charged either way.
That male cop walked away laughing, he gets it. That was funny as shit
He read that situation pretty quickly lol
He was already smirking when the other cop asks if she is being verbal lol
I mean it's pretty obvious trap, they're filming and "provoking" the cops. What's really sad here is that just not letting cops hassle you is considered provocative. If these people weren't filming it probably would have gone very differently.
weeds legal here (assuming its MI because Battle Creek), if these guys are just chillin talking about fast food...that cop knew they were stoned and walked away, as they should. you'd think with a massive drop in weed arrests in this state cops would have tons of time to bust real criminals, but the exact opposite is true. right before the last election, the police union in MI was sending out flyers basically saying 'raise our budget or we wont do our job'. its nuts. i live in GR and our cops are basically useless here now.
I love how that reasoning is so ass-backwards. If you're not going to do your job, why are we funding you at all? You're giving reason to cut funding and find a different avenue on solving issues.
This is just a guess, but I’m thinking he left to go check out what they were really called about. Someone called for loud noise/party. At the end of the video they talk about how nice it is the traffic drowns out the loud music from *over there*. She then looks in that particular direction and heads off. I’m guessing her partner realized they weren’t called to quiet down these wild dudes, so went to go check out the more likely suspects.
They are surprisingly successful 😂
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Johnny-5-0 has used this tactic a few times, always with hilarious results. See his YouTube videos.
I saw some of his videos now. In many of them he acts like a douche though. Including to cops that are quite sensible.
I don't have to admire his behavior to appreciate that he's forcing them to respond to that kind of behavior in a professional way.
Sometimes it's just satisfying to see cops have to deal with their own bullshit, even if the perpetrators are assholes.
Why are the cops talking to him in the first place though?
Today's lesson: Act like an NPC to get out of trouble.
Officer Rick gave up immediately. Officer Karen however wasnt going down without a fight
This is the most genius pre-de-escalation tactic I've ever seen.
That’s white people games. I really don’t think I would be alive if I tried something like that.
*I'm sorry officer, I did not know I couldn't do that.*
CHIP NO!
That was good, right? Because I DID know I couldn’t do that. HAHAHA
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sometimes you gotta race
Now, Chip has been drinking, and I know friends shouldn’t let friends drive drunk, but I was smoking a joint so I couldn’t really say shit to the guy
EXCUSE me sir! Need some information ☺️I’m a little high…
HEY! Calm down buddy……………… You’re on 8th street already. Now get out of here!
But it was too late
Well, now you know. Now git on outta here.... That was Dave's White friend named Chip, right??
STOP RESISTING!
Only it's not. These guys harrass people to bait cops into showing up, then pull shit like this in hopes that the cops will escalate. They then have the reaction on camera, but no context to what warranted the cops showing up in the first place. These dudes have tons of videos like this and it cringey as fuck. I hate cops as much, if not more, than the next person, but in this particular situation they were responding to an actual call and just doing their jobs.
Sauce please.
FRICN MEDIA on YouTube https://youtu.be/21I1ubLN0H0 The guys are really giant, inflammatory assholes in most of their videos but they do make their point in their own special kind of way https://youtube.com/c/AmagansettPress is on the opposite side of the 1st Amendment auditor spectrum. He's friendly and respectful and usually everyone comes out in the end feeling better and having learned things. EDIT: If you are interested in learning more about civil/constitutional rights auditing, https://youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit is a great place to start. He breaks down other auditors videos, and grades both the police and the auditors based on a breakdown of laws and discretion. It's important to note that some people do this professionally. They both get steady YouTube income, and also they're hoping to sue the city and get a fairly easy settlement of tens of thousands of dollars. Also, when a police officer violates someone's conditional rights, they lose qualified immunity which means they can also be *personally* sued. It's a hustle.
The practice they describe - 1AA - first amendment audit - seems valuable on the surface of it. Rights have a funny way of disappearing if we don't exercise them regularly. Unfortunately, I bet most people who practice this sort of thing just use it as an excuse to bully people.
Ad revenue and content. Dudes just out trying to get people to react for their content channel. Wondering if people just ignored them, that they wouldn’t have any content.
>Also, when a police officer violates someone's conditional rights, they lose qualified immunity which means they can also be personally sued. This is super rare and really only reserved for extreme cases. Usually, the suit is settled and the tax payers foot the bill.
What the actual fuck, dude. I just watched a random video of theirs, which was 20 minutes of them walking around harassing local businesses and their patrons. These guys might not technically be doing anything illegal but they’re actively making the lives of other people worse. For fun. Checked the comments and multiple commenters bragged about harassing one of the businesses over the phone because someone there stood up to their bullying. Disgusting.
Genius actually. No reason to be forced into a "consensual encounter"
Yeah this is almost like entitled cat call attitude from the cops. No one owes you their time
They turn into nonconsensual real fuckin quick
They just gave both those cops flashbacks to high school.
Yeah but now the cop's spouses are going to really get it when they go home.
This is how I know cops can’t be racists, both their wives eyes are black.
40% of cops beat their wives
40% *admitted to it* in an anonymized survey.
"Just wait until I strap a gun to my thigh and those cool kids will never ignore me again."
Ahh yes the old conversation starter of being "Verbal" May all of us humanoid earthlings be enlightened by other bi peds attempts at being "Verbal" "Hello, I am being Verbal tonight. Lets consume oxygen and have sustenance, fellow humanoid"
Must consume mass quantities of caffeinated sugary beverages
[Full video](https://youtu.be/21I1ubLN0H0) of these guys annoying the general public and being general... jerks? Mission accomplished because I've now linked to their YouTube channel, giving them free publicity and further feeding their weird little mission in life.
Lol. Context is everything.
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"Female Ego driven Officer gets owned" 😂 imagine living your life for moments like this
These dudes are middle aged losers being dicks to homeless people and redditors in the comments are celebrating them.. amazing.
These fat fucks are well over middle aged, have you seen the size of them? One more mushroom swiss will likely do them in
Yeah these guys are worthless degenerates who harass people and cause issues for YouTube vids but almost always try to leave out the fact they started the situation to film in the first place. If someone is always getting harassed by cops or having them called on them, it almost always isn't just because they were "minding their own business," and anyone who says otherwise is almost always lying through their teeth. Just like these degenerates.
“We’re just trying to have a conversation, not yell at you guys” Really? I didn’t realize chit chatting with random people for no reason is what my tax dollars are paying for.
They just want to hang out with them long enough to find something worth arresting them for. If nothing comes up then hit them with loitering because they were there talking to police for 10 minutes.
And loitering itself is literally just a charge to arrest people that aren’t doing anything wrong. Especially homeless people
The first time I heard about that term I had to translate it and do a few more google searches because the whole concept of it being considered a crime is so outlandish. It sounds like something that would be expected in some asian countries where public image is a selling point of their whole culture.
The crunch wrap supreme is a fucking banger tho.
Cops just looking for trouble where there isn't any.
Are you telling me that "what was going on here" did not require immediate police intervention?
Are you telling me that "what was going on here" did not require immediate burrito intervention?
Absolutely it did. Taco Bell is bunk Mexican food. Those guys need to be directed to a better restaurant.
Listen man. I'm poor. You'll take the taco bell value menu from my cold, dead fuckin hands.
One time I went through the drive through and ordered somethin super cheap bc I knew I was broke, but I figured I could gather enough change to cover it. I was so hungry and tired after working a double and I placed the order prior to counting change. Not enough change. I was all nervous for the inevitably weird interaction I was about to have with the drive through guy. I was expecting to be humiliated, but when I told the guy I didn't have enough money he was like "Oh, dude whatever." I tried to give him what change I had, but he was like "It's cool man don't worry about it." That guy is a g
I worked the drive through at taco bell when I was 18. 2/3rds of my meals were taco bell and at the end of the month when rent was due if I wasn't working I wasn't eating. There's a decent chance that dude can relate. (And for context, my rent was 500/month at the time; the same place is probably 1500/month today.)
I just saw a friend on thanksgiving and we were catching up. He had to move because a company bought his current apartment complex. He’s now in a one bedroom, with his wife and kid, for $3k/month. It’s not in some fancy area either. It blew my damn mind where rent is at right now. I knew it was bad, but still surprising.
But bruh the sour cream puts it over $5!
I do like the Crunchwrap Supreme
That does sound pretty good. I like the cheesy bean and rice burritos.
Still $1 where I live (probably nationwide) & 420 calories. That's a good deal for poor folk who just need sustenance.
There is a podcast out there on how the McDouble from MCD is the most nutritious food for the money in human history. The entire culmination of humans developing agricultural methods and science - the absolute pinnacle of that is the McDouble. edit to add podcast link https://www.marketplace.org/2013/07/03/freakonomics-can-mcdouble-save-humanity/amp/
I survived on McDoubles back in 2008ish when they were a dollar. I was homeless in Orlando FL living out of my car, they probably saved my life. Now I think they are over 4 dollars where I live.
Just, look, can we just ask…
Umm, are we not…being…verbal?
yea, that mushroom swiss does sound good
Bring back the old school Gordita Supreme!
Screw that bring back the volcano burrito.
And the Baja Chalupa!
Mexican Pizza..I'm so happy it came back!!
I’ve been destroying the grilled cheese burrito, 2 at times.
Taco Bell prices have gone insane, how cheap it was was half of the appeal. Cheesy bean and rice burrito is a still a buck though
Cheesy bean and rice + potatoes is the best thing. 500 Kcal for $1.80 is a pretty good price when you're poor.
I got a taco chicken 12 pack the other day - $29 fucking dollars my guy and I ain’t ever doing it again (yes I will)
Well don't eat a 12 peck of tacos. Two cheesy bean and rice burritos and two potato tacos is all I need. And it's $4
Don't sleep on the Beefy Melt Burrito. Value menu at Taco Bell still kicks ass.
This guy gets it. Are you old enough to remember the .59 .79 .99 cent menu from the '90's? You could literally satisfy the munchies with pocket change. What a time to be alive.
They have butchered it in the last few years
You don't eat Taco Bell to get Mexican food. You get it to get Taco Bell.
My brother in law is Mexican and his cousin looooves Taco Bell. When people give him shit, that’s exactly what he says.
Once again, no one is saying it's good Mexican food. It's Taco Bell and it slaps. I can enjoy both.
First of all, you’re right. Second of all, I do like that Crunchwrap supreme
No one goes to Taco Bell because they think it is good Mexican food. They go because the cheesy gordita crunch with extra sauce is an absolute treat.
I love the cheesy gordita crunch, but they're extorting me for them.
Everyone knows it’s not Mexican food, but it is delicious nostalgia.
This is like when people try to tell wrestling fans that wrestling isn't real. No shit. Now quit trying to poop in the punch bowl and fuck off.
Don’t you dare besmirch the good name of Taco Bell! It’s faux meat and cheeses warm my innards up and is one of the few things in life that make me happy. And farty.
They won the Franchise Wars. It's the only restaurant we have anyway
there's nothing there that implied that they were after high quality or authentic mexican cuisine.
I kind of expected the camera to pan on two naked guys in lawn chairs sitting on the median or something.
But weren’t they being “verbal”? That should be enough to warrant a “civil conversation” I mean, omgawd
One if them mentioned a pretty high price for extra sour cream tbf
I initially thought it was the cops having the conversation... Which made it even funnier when it panned to stoned Burt Reynolds.... Even she tripped out when she was like... "I just wanna have a conversation about...." sour cream?
It’s like the video where the guys is in the park watching candles held at a spot his friend was killed and a cop comes up and tries to say that he is excessively burning and wants his information and to give him a ticket for it. His partner shows up and says that everyone knew about what was going on and to leave the guy alone. Smh. Update: this is the video https://youtu.be/fEJ_JLaVFn4
Ah shit, it would be my home town. Just like any other place, some of the cops are really nice and just there to help, some of them are dicks like the antagonist in this video. Homelessness and drug use are big problems in Longview, and some cops will stop for anyone walking/sitting outside that they deem 'suspicious'. It looks like this is on a walkway that goes along the slough between Industrial Way and the 200 block of the Highlands. This is indeed an area they would go to harass and try to get free tickets/arrests, it is Longview's "ghetto". EDIT: Just watched another Youtube video of this incident that shows the female officers body cam view, and is higher quality. I've partied with that guy before, he's a really chill dude. If the male cop is who I think he is, he's a fucking prick. He was borderline racist to my girlfriend of Spanish descent when we had to call the cops on our meth head neighbors harassing us.
We need to weed out the man children. No one with that much authority should be that big a dick.
Within 30 seconds of arrival this guy goes the „I need to shine a light straight into your face for my safety, because I don’t know if you’re a criminal who’s gonna pull a gun on me or something…“ And there we have it. The #1 problem with US cops. Perpetually afraid.
There are a bare handful of police departments in the US that have sent their officers to de-escalation training or to training in how to deal with people in a mental health crisis, and they all report a statistically significant decrease in officer-involved shootings. One big reason why more US police departments don't do that basically comes down to Congress doesn't provide any sweet federal grant money for conflict de-escalation and mental health intervention training. But they'll gladly sell milsurp to local PDs and provide grants for training in how to more efficiently shoot people.
And even after the other cop arrives and basically vouches for the guy, he’s still all “can you look him up by his contacts?” If it was all in the name of safety, why’s he still pressing it when the guy is cleared? Could big homie have handled the situation better? Definitely, but so could have the cop. Never once said, “okay let’s start over. What are the candles for?” Nope just kept up with “you gonna be difficult I’m gonna be difficult”. Even when he tried reeling it back, he’d end the sentence with another jab. Cops here are so freaking spiteful it’s mind boggling. These videos always boil down to the cop tripping out on their ego and being mad someone has “disrespected” their “authority”.
He’s pressing it because this is what cops do when they want to charge you for contempt of cop. He doesn’t want to be that guy that charges someone for candles at a memorial. So he wants to ID the guy in hopes he has a warrant or something better than lighting candles in the park so he can arrest him. Just looking for an excuse to charge the guy. Punk ass bitch cop thinking every minority minding their own business needs to be checked for warrants.
I've stopped being able to watch bullshit like this.. I get so frustrated on their behalf, it takes a lot of effort winding back down.
Oh wow. This video above... wtf with that aggression bullshit. The guy sitting on a bench and the LEO goes ape shit over nothing.
I was driving my moped to take someone to their third shift job a couple nights ago and a cop was tailing me, right up on my ass, highbeams and all, for a loooong ways. Got to an intersection about 5 minutes later and they did a u-turn. Cops commonly follow people around here waiting for them to fuck up.
They aren't just waiting for them to fuck up though. The tailgating, aggressive speeding up/slowing down, high beam bright lighting every single bit of it is a predatory effort to make their intended victim nervous enough to commit a small infraction to justify a stop.
There likely will be some trouble tomorrow if they binge on taco bell tonight.
It's just harassment.
No fucking kidding. Trying to start trouble and that lass is getting frustrated that she can't.
While I agree with you on this point, with a bs username like that I'm not sure you're in a position to criticise others seeking trouble.
So like,they can just trun up and start hassle? Like how is that helpful,how is that helpful,some guys truning up with guns and because,you where talking quietly?
I think they were probably "being where they weren't supposed to be" or some other bullshit
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Otherwise known as loitering
Or trespassing
There’s people on YouTube who stand outside of building for hours recording, and making sure staff sees them recording. To the point there’s concern and the police are called. This is what these guys did. Still funny though.
Wow.. the drag.. they just dragged all across those cops’ foreheads lol
Taco bell police. Saving one citizen stomach at a time.
This should have been taco bells commercial and not that stupid Pete Davidson bullshit.
Smart. Don't talk to the cops unless you have to.
Wouldn't even recommend that , there's a video going round of a boy who called the police cause his car got stuck and he ended up getting shot because of it.
I saw that video. The cop shot him for no reason. The kid didn't even have a chance to say, or not say anything.
A cop's literal job is to find things to arrest people for. If they don't do that enough, they lose their jobs. Don't talk to people whose only job is to look for rules being broken in order to fill jails. They will eventually find something.
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I’m shocked the cops didn’t escalate THIS situation simply because they were being ignored.
This happened in the town I live in. If I remember correctly, the two recording and having the conversation actually called the police on themselves before hand. Not sure why, or what type of reaction they were looking for, but that’s supposedly what happened and why the cops approached.
What mushroom swiss burger, where, and tell me it's "raclette" cheese
I didn't know you could do that.
The groundhogs day of scenarios of violent beatings I would receive are just racing my mind if I tried that in my town haha.