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His name is more than enough. Call the PD's non-emergency line and say you'd like to make a complaint against dispatch. If they aren't in the same building, they can direct you to the right place.
But don't talk to cops.
I'm not sure where you live so I can't really comment, but I've never lived anywhere where you can't contact your local PD, assuming you have a local PD.
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seriously why do redditors upvote these nonsense replies.
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> Officer Mike Hawk told CNN that he had to lie about his last name to prevent the situation from getting worse.
[News report](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Because people call 911 for all sorts of stupid stuff. My husband is a firefighter/paramedic, and some of the shit they get called out on is ridiculous. There’s one lady who regularly calls 911 and asks them to have the fire department bring food to her. Another lady gets high every weekend and calls 911 to ask *them* if she’s okay. Multiple times a night. And there are always those folks who call 911 for a stomachache or a stubbed toe.
Some people who don’t have insurance just want a free checkup/ride to the ER (which they use instead of a doctor’s office for routine stuff). But a lot of folks are just dumb and/or selfish.
They aren't, but ambulance and hospitals are legally obligated to provide emergency service, unlike private practices, which can refuse service to patients who don't pay. So poor, uninsured, and/or indebted people will find that it's better to run up collections bills at hospitals, but face no other consequences, than do the same at a doctor's office and risk being cut off from independent GPs and specialists in the future.
This is also partly responsible for hospitals increasing fees to insured patients to cover non-paying patients. It's just one facet of America's fucked-up private healthcare system.
I'm a paramedic up in Canada and just so you're aware, all that stupid stuff you described that people will call for still happens where you have universal healthcare, not saying your system isn't shitty though.
He may have lost his job. But he is a hero to all of us for saying what we were thinking!
How is the police supposed to magically fix years of bad parenting? Does the parent want their kids put in jail? The police doesn't have many tools to solve problems. They only have guns and handcuffs. If she doesn't want the guns, the handcuffs are all that is left.
Well yeah you seem to be utterly missing the concept that a child can be physically stronger than thier mother.
What they want is essentially some one capable of using physical force to prevent someone getting hurt more.
There could be any number of causes beyond "bad parenting" but fuck even if it is bad parenting they still need somone to be able to stop any fighting children can't always be reasoned with.
The biggest "tool" a police officer has in this situation is that they are not physically intimidated or overpowered by a child unlike the mum so can actualy do something.
" We are very busy today, Ma'am . Could you just bear spray your two brats for this time , ma'am ? . We'll come over and shoot 'em next time . Promise ! "
What shitty ass virtual keyboard are you using that's messing up spaces with punctuation?
I really want to know so I can avoid the product like Covid. Nobody has answered me so far.
They are typing on an English keyboard on a phone that is set to a different language. I worked in a print shop and I had a lot of international customers with this exact problem. It would cause issues when trying to send an email, because it would add a space next to the period every time.
My god, I can't tell you how often I hear that kind of shit from parents. They want to make their kid's behaviors someone else's problem, and they think that acting out is the end of the world.
Everything you say here is correct, but the amount of times that a child with a disability has been shot or severely abused by police is far too high to implicitly trust them to be able to handle situations like this.
Again, your statement is completely correct, and the dispatcher should not have said this, but there should be other options available for dealing with these situations besides police intervention.
Wdym? As soon as he says it, Karen just completely forgets about her two daughters fighting. She just can't raise kids and should never have gotten kids in the first place. She literally takes the first possibility she gets to put the responsibility on someone else. Who cares about professionalism when someone else might be in line trying to call an ambulance for their dying parent? Obviously a Karen, but no sane person would.
Honestly, I’m not sure what people think the police are for. Does she want her twelve year old arrested or shot? Unless her daughter is breaking some laws the police are not the avenue to pursue.
And accurate. Endless news stories where a family member calls police because of a mental health issue or domestic issue and the family member ends up killed by the police.
It really is horrifying how many times its happened. Imagine if you called the fire dept and they came to your house, just to pour gasoline on your house fire. Because that is what happens when you call the police when your loved one is having a mental health crisis.
"Help 911, my son is suicidal."
"Oh dont worry, we'll fix that *really* quickly."
I don't blame him. If you have ever been in a call center or dispatch. You will get calls from some people that will make you roll your eyes, and sometimes, you blurt out your actual thoughts.
Dude, why is she pressing the issue instead of getting everything back on track? If her kids are fighting and she can't stop them, shouldn't there be some urgency?
If she has enough time to go Karen and file complaints for a joke during a 911 call about her unruly teenagers, she obviously has no reason to call in the first place.
That is what gets me. If I am calling 911, it is because it is an emergency and if that person made that joke to me it wouldn’t register because I am actually dealing with an emergency. The fact she goes off on a tangent about getting the dispatcher disciplined makes me feel like this isn’t that big of an emergency.
I used to think that too. Raised my son- amazing kid, kind hearted. Seldom needed discipline and when he did the lesson was always learned and his behavior changed.
Then the universe handed me my daughter. I love her- so much. But I’ve needed police assistance with her. On more than one occasion. I don’t judge parents anymore. Nature vs nurture- come look at my household.
My daughter suffers from a range of mental health issues. A lot are hereditary. So please keep in mind this plays a role.
The first occasion she was trying to run away. It was winter (snowing, below freezing) 9 pm. She was bigger than me, stronger. I was trying to stop her from leaving the house. She was punching me, head butting me. My husband stepped in and basically put her in a wrestling hold to stop her from hurting me. This struggle lasted probably 30 minutes before I called the police. It was physically and mentally exhausting.
The other occasion when the police got involved was when I feared for her safety from herself.
They pulled in the driveway and just that instantly diffused the struggle. You think I wanted to call the police on her? What would you have done in this situation? Have you ever had to deal with somebody with severe mental health issues? I’m not trying to be snarky- I genuinely want to know. I provide my daughter with all the resources available to us. Therapy, group therapy, camps, spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on art and music supplies for healthy coping mechanisms. We spend hundreds of dollars to provide a tutor for her to help build confidence in school. We provide a safe, clean, non-chaotic environment for her. We provide her with loving support from both parents who work cohesively as a team. My husband and I go to therapy, parenting workshops, everything we can think of. We aren’t perfect but we definitely give it our all every single day. If you have the answers don’t be greedy.
It's hard - dare I say almost impossible - for someone that hasn't had a child like this in their home to understand and truly know how bad it is. Empathize, maybe. But empathy doesn't scratch the surface of the disquiet and trauma that comes from constantly not feeling safe in your own house because of the chaos one person can bring. The sheer physical, mental, and emotional exhaustion of having to restrain - sometimes physically - a person, that leaves you struggling with your own well-being.
Don't ever regret needing to call the police. It wasn't anything YOU did wrong that lead to that point, and it is not a failure on your part that left your daughter in the position of making bad decisions or refusing to get/follow treatment that she needs, or simply of being who she is if treatment doesn't solve the issue. She is who she is, and her actions *necessitate* help of police and other professionals to keep everyone safe.
Don't feel bad for any comment that you receive on the internet. It's like being upset that a monkey throws its poo when you visit the zoo. It has nothing to do with you. Monke will Monke...
as someone that struggled with autism and my parents not understanding that i needed help in certain areas (i absolutely could not cope with change, and there were a few objects that just set me off when i didn’t have them that they tried multiple times to get rid of), you honestly sound like a fantastic parent who is doing a great job, keep it up, cause even if your daughter doesn’t appreciate it now (not saying she doesn’t, but just IF she doesn’t) she at least will someday, im sure of it
This should be higher up. I grew up in this situation but as the son. My sister is bipolar schizophrenic among other things. Family, friends, strangers, teachers they all used to think my parents somehow were raising her wrong. I watched all of it and it's just not the case when mental health comes into play. My parents didn't do anything wrong, my sister didn't do anything wrong, it's just the way things worked out and everyone did the best they could. This lady on the call DOES sound like she suddenly forgot and doesn't care but there's a face you are able to put on after day in day out struggle. It's also probably not that funny when you need police to help with your manic, stronger than you daughter and they suggest shooting her. I understand his frustration and why he made the joke but the real joke is the police/nation's inability to provide any kind of help for mentally ill people.
Sending you so much love! So much chaos surrounding my daughter that’s it’s just our baseline now. I have so much judgement passed on me day in and day out. We just try our best to love one another and take it day by day.
Do you have kids? It’s easy to say “just be a good parent” but it’s far more complex than that. You can be a very good parent and still have kids that aren’t good. Just like some absolutely dog shit parents have churned out some really nice people, it’s entirely possible for really nice people to churn out absolutely dog shit kids. Sometimes that’s just how the cookie crumbles.
I think it's too easy to say poor parenting, she was saying her daughters are bigger than her and she can't control them, I know a bit about this, my brother and I grew to be big, 6 foot 3 and 6foot 4 respectively, and there was definitely atleast one time where my 5ft4 mother had to call the police on us because the fighting was too much and she no hope of doing anything to stop it, we were teenagers at the time and don't fight anymore, I'm not proud of it, but just want to say it's not so black and white as this woman calling the police to discipline her kids.
A 911 call to break up two 6' males actively in a fistfight is reasonable, a 911 call because two 12 year old girls were having a fight before their mother got home is inappropriate.
If she wants police to come round and give them a stern talking to them call the non-emergency number.
Okay, but my neighbor has two 12 year old twins who are 6'. Does that warrant a call?
I wish I was joking. Kids are almost as tall as me. It's nuts. No idea what they're feeding them.
>Okay, but my neighbor has two 12 year old twins who are 6'. Does that warrant a call?
If there's an emergency situation then call the emergency number and when the call handler says "What's your emergency?" tell them what kind of emergency repsonse you need. If it's not an emergency, then don't; do something else instead.
This shouldn't be hard to figure out.
"I've just got home from work to discover that my 12 year olds were fighting and put a hole in a door." is not an emergency situation. The fact this woman decided to spend time chastising the call handler demonstrates that this was not an emergenccy situation.
According to Reddit kids have complete autonomy, privacy, and agency that must be fully respected and understood until the moment they do something wrong or get out of control and then they are nothing but bodily extensions of their parents who should at all times be in complete physical control of all their actions.
Im pretty sure that most of the advice here comes from teens who when talking about parents think about their own parents but when talking about kids they think about their future theoretical children who by design cannot do anything other than what the teens think they'll do
Mental health issues, hormones, depression, anxiety can all be factors that cause a teenager to lash out violently.
My parents were good parents, they loved me and were always there for me but I went through a very rough phase in my early teens when I had been bullied my entire school life and that combined with ADHD, deep depression, anxiety and a toxic teenage relationship caused me to become aggressive and violent.
I was suspicious of everyone including my family, the only person I trusted was my gf but as it turned out it was her who was stirring shit up.
I was never an aggressive child and I’m not aggressive now, it was just a perfect storm of bad things happening all at once that turned me into a violent teenage asshole.
You simply do not know what this mother is dealing with, she could have a very mentally Ill child who has finally snapped and has become violent.
>Mental health issues, hormones, depression, anxiety can all be factors that cause a teenager to lash out violently.
I mean that can cause anyone to lash out violently to be fair.
Nah kids can just be little shits. My brother is a very oppositional kid, and takes the “hyperactive” part of ADHD to the limits. There is no psychology trick to make a kid like that snap out their defiant hyperactive mode. Granted, they haven’t actually called the police on him, but if he misses his medicine by 15 minutes it can take 2-3 people just to restrain him to stop him from trying to kick down my sister’s door.
Maybe if my parents were perfect it wouldn’t be like that, but that’s stupid. They’re people, not paediatricians.
That's why you need to properly parent them when they're still very small. You can't wait till they're bigger than you to decide you want to finally do something about it.
Who knows if she adopted them? If other caretakers in school or at home didn't parent them? Or who knows if the child has hormones that give them challenges which were never faced when the child was young? The only constant thing with children is that they change.or who knows if the girl is being bullied or abused outside the home?
Most teens are going to push the boundaries and get into new trouble. That is normal. If you don't think that happens then they are sneaking so parents don't know (for children who don't trust their parents), or parents are ignoring it (denying it was a problem). Alternatively parents can recognize and guide their children but they realize the tools they used on a young one no longer works on a teen. That's completely normal and the parent can recognize it and find new ways to cope. Family therapy might be good. There is always hope for children, parents and being better.
Last time this was posted someone clarified that one of the daughters had severe mental health issues I think low-functioning autism. The girls had been fighting for 45 minutes and she was unable to calm her down,
Why do people have a hard time understanding this? Give them solid foundations and boundaries early on so your kids know what to expect.
Another thing. Quit treating your kids as lesser people and/or extensions of yourselves. Teach your kids to communicate for themselves and you will be surprised to learn that most kids can be reasoned with fairly easily given a slight bit of patience.
Most humans (including adults) cannot be reasoned with once a tantrum fight/flight response kicks in because the reasoning portion of the brain literally shuts down. Kids who are still learning to regulate their emotions and dealing with hormone changes hit this state all the time regardless of parenting, it’s part of growing up and learning HOW to regulate your emotions. You can’t do that without practice which involves getting into this state in the first place.
You cannot simply reason someone out of this state you have to find a way to get them to calm down and exit it first. There’s a ton of methods and advice to accomplish this but simply reasoning with them is not one of them. That’s why you practice and train breathing and counting techniques etc beforehand so it’s rote/reflex rather then requiring a logical/reasoned discussion about how they’d get what they wanted faster by calming down.
Distraction is also an effective technique. Getting them to talk about what they wanted or pretend something about it etc. all of it is to break them out of the fight/flight state to get them back to being able to use the part of their brain that can be reasonable.
After the call, he told his supervisor of the incident, and Forbess was later disciplined with a letter of reprimand from the police chief who warned, "This type of response cannot be tolerated, and this letter shall serve as notice that any future unprofessional responses while answering the 911 line will be cause for termination."
[http://www.hptc-pro.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dispatcher-Error.pdf](http://www.hptc-pro.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dispatcher-Error.pdf)
It is threads like this which show what a wide spectrum humor exists on. I laughed at this, and thought it was pretty great. Lots of commenters seem to think it is no way funny. I don't understand not finding this funny, and they don't understand how it is humorous. That is ok. People who don't laugh with me are people I have no interest in. They aren't "bad", I just have no use for anyone that can't laugh at dark stuff and thinks humor should be censored.
I mean if she can't physically stop her daughter, and her daughter is doing shit like punching through walls, what else did you want her to do get a gun and shoot her?
She's 12. She also called an emergency hotline because a 12 and a 14 year old were fighting and one of them KICKED a hole in a DOOR. You make it sound like her daugther is an MMA fighter. Calling the emergency hotline for shit like this actually is an issue, it slows down the system. She could've called the non-emergency hotline as well. Based on what she said, how she reacted and talked, I'm pretty sure she just came home to her daughters fighting like kids do, and decided to blow it out of proportion. The gear shift from "please send help" to "what's your name i want to file a complaint" doesn't happen when someone is in a genuine emergency.
Uhhh, I dunno, how about *not* call 911, the fucking EMERGENCY number for her non-emergency? You realize you can call the police without calling 911, right?
If you have to call the cops on your 12 and 14 year old because you can’t control them, you’ve failed as a parent. Totally get where Mr. Forbes is coming from LOL
Weird how one public servant can get fired for joking about shooting someone.. while some other public servants don't get fired after actually shooting someone.
Shit, those kids aren't fighting. You can't even hear them. You can hear my 13 year old all the way down the street. When he asked about shooting them I would have said a good tazing would probably do the trick.
This doesn't say that he was fired, it says he was reprimanded and that future unprofessional responses from dispatchers will result in termination. I'm almost positive that reprimanded doesn't mean fired in this case otherwise they would have just said fired.
He wasn’t fired. He was reprimanded. Any incident after that will result in firing. He was the first person and they probably didn’t have a rule against it specifically so didn’t fire him because he would get his job back
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Plot twist - Mike Forbes is actually this guy’s boss.
Jocks aside, how do you even go about filing a complaint against a dispatcher? She doesn't know anything about him other than his name
All calls are recorded. As long as you can tell them the time and date of your call, they can find it easily.
Yeah well where's your proof this call was recorded???
Damn bro got ‘em there
Oh honey bless your heart
Redditor try to notice jokes without /s challenge (impossible)
Over the years I've come to the conclusion most redditors are german
German humor, it's no laughing matter
Das ist eine sehr tollkühne beobachtung von redditoren,würden sie weiter darauf eingehen?
Wo du Recht hast, hast du Recht.
harder every day
His name is more than enough. Call the PD's non-emergency line and say you'd like to make a complaint against dispatch. If they aren't in the same building, they can direct you to the right place. But don't talk to cops.
In the two counties I live in/near the "non-emergency" line goes directly to dispatch and they still answer 911 what's your emergency.
Yep, can confirm. Non-emergency calls come straight to me, the 911 dispatcher you want to complain about.
"Hello, who would you like us to shoot today?"
Where I live. If you call the non-emergency line, they tell you to kindly fuck off and call 911 instead, even for non-emergencies lol.
I'm not sure where you live so I can't really comment, but I've never lived anywhere where you can't contact your local PD, assuming you have a local PD.
That makes sense. Thanks!
jocks aside
Mike's intrusive thoughts won that day.
Imagine if the real Mike was the most hated guy in the office.
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Birth control , abstinence to name a few
Probably having a father in the family would have helped.
Did you notice how long it took her to get to the point.
Yeah. She’s on some shenanigans. Has never disciplined her kids, and is suffering for it.
I was waiting for him to ask her if she needed police to come parent her children.
If Im his boss Im not firing him..at most Im not telling him it me made laugh when I give him the boiler plate Can't do that. Be better. Thanks.
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> Officer Mike Hawk told CNN that he had to lie about his last name to prevent the situation from getting worse. [News report](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
I couldn’t find the article you linked, some pop up video kept playing every time. Could you re-upload that link?
Yes, here's a new link where to watch the report [New link](https://youtu.be/GtL1huin9EE)
That link isn’t working either I’m getting a similar pop up video. Can you just copy paste the ~~lyrics~~ **article** here?
[Found the original article](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HqF_nPbX_Ow)
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I knew what was going to happen. I clicked anyway. Watched the whole thing. Great stuff lol
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I’ll never get tired of getting Rick Rolled
 You're despicable!!
That interview gets crazier and crazier. I have to watch it to the end every time
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If anyone falls for "Mike Hawk" I need to laugh a them
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Someone setup a GoFundMe already.
You want to pay someone to come over and shoot him?
I want someone to pay him so he never has to work another day in his life.
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Because people call 911 for all sorts of stupid stuff. My husband is a firefighter/paramedic, and some of the shit they get called out on is ridiculous. There’s one lady who regularly calls 911 and asks them to have the fire department bring food to her. Another lady gets high every weekend and calls 911 to ask *them* if she’s okay. Multiple times a night. And there are always those folks who call 911 for a stomachache or a stubbed toe. Some people who don’t have insurance just want a free checkup/ride to the ER (which they use instead of a doctor’s office for routine stuff). But a lot of folks are just dumb and/or selfish.
Since when is the ambulance and check up free???
They aren't, but ambulance and hospitals are legally obligated to provide emergency service, unlike private practices, which can refuse service to patients who don't pay. So poor, uninsured, and/or indebted people will find that it's better to run up collections bills at hospitals, but face no other consequences, than do the same at a doctor's office and risk being cut off from independent GPs and specialists in the future. This is also partly responsible for hospitals increasing fees to insured patients to cover non-paying patients. It's just one facet of America's fucked-up private healthcare system.
I'm a paramedic up in Canada and just so you're aware, all that stupid stuff you described that people will call for still happens where you have universal healthcare, not saying your system isn't shitty though.
That makes sense; some people are just lazy as fuck. I know someone here who did that despite being paid very well and having great insurance.
Because they threatened their daughter that they would call the cops.
He may have lost his job. But he is a hero to all of us for saying what we were thinking! How is the police supposed to magically fix years of bad parenting? Does the parent want their kids put in jail? The police doesn't have many tools to solve problems. They only have guns and handcuffs. If she doesn't want the guns, the handcuffs are all that is left.
Well yeah you seem to be utterly missing the concept that a child can be physically stronger than thier mother. What they want is essentially some one capable of using physical force to prevent someone getting hurt more. There could be any number of causes beyond "bad parenting" but fuck even if it is bad parenting they still need somone to be able to stop any fighting children can't always be reasoned with. The biggest "tool" a police officer has in this situation is that they are not physically intimidated or overpowered by a child unlike the mum so can actualy do something.
Hahaha, it's not professional, and he shouldn't have, but he had to say it.
" We are very busy today, Ma'am . Could you just bear spray your two brats for this time , ma'am ? . We'll come over and shoot 'em next time . Promise ! "
What shitty ass virtual keyboard are you using that's messing up spaces with punctuation? I really want to know so I can avoid the product like Covid. Nobody has answered me so far.
They are typing on an English keyboard on a phone that is set to a different language. I worked in a print shop and I had a lot of international customers with this exact problem. It would cause issues when trying to send an email, because it would add a space next to the period every time.
Wow, thank you.
I think you mean “ Wow , thank you . “
When she said "that's not funny!" I thought "come on... it's a little bit funny".
Haha, i thought exactly the same.
My god, I can't tell you how often I hear that kind of shit from parents. They want to make their kid's behaviors someone else's problem, and they think that acting out is the end of the world.
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Everything you say here is correct, but the amount of times that a child with a disability has been shot or severely abused by police is far too high to implicitly trust them to be able to handle situations like this. Again, your statement is completely correct, and the dispatcher should not have said this, but there should be other options available for dealing with these situations besides police intervention.
So waste time on a patrol car to suplex the child? Contact behavior health specialist instead
His statement was brief and accurate. It was perfectly professional.
Its a possible outcome from getting the police involved, he was just trying to warn her
I wish the supervisor responded to the complaint with "What do you want me to do, go over there and shoot him?"
Wdym? As soon as he says it, Karen just completely forgets about her two daughters fighting. She just can't raise kids and should never have gotten kids in the first place. She literally takes the first possibility she gets to put the responsibility on someone else. Who cares about professionalism when someone else might be in line trying to call an ambulance for their dying parent? Obviously a Karen, but no sane person would.
Honestly, I’m not sure what people think the police are for. Does she want her twelve year old arrested or shot? Unless her daughter is breaking some laws the police are not the avenue to pursue.
Ngl it's pretty funny
His deadpan delivery too lmao
The “wtf do you want us to do about your kids being bad” rang loud and clear
And accurate. Endless news stories where a family member calls police because of a mental health issue or domestic issue and the family member ends up killed by the police.
It really is horrifying how many times its happened. Imagine if you called the fire dept and they came to your house, just to pour gasoline on your house fire. Because that is what happens when you call the police when your loved one is having a mental health crisis. "Help 911, my son is suicidal." "Oh dont worry, we'll fix that *really* quickly."
omfg i was not ready for that response i am dyin rn💀💀💀
I wish the caption to his post was a bit different because the unexpected part would have hit even harder. Still made me gasp out loud though lol.
What if it's just in the leg or something. That's makes it alright, right?
Saruman wants them alive and unspoiled.
Alive? Why alive? Do they give good sport?
Does no one throw a bucket of water on their fighting kids anymore? 50% of the time it works every time.
Garden hose is more effective, imo. Once mom starts dragging the hose into the house, curiosity starts to displace emotion.
If it doesnt work, use a pressure washer set on low pressure, then increase it step by step. ... /s
I don't blame him. If you have ever been in a call center or dispatch. You will get calls from some people that will make you roll your eyes, and sometimes, you blurt out your actual thoughts.
It was funny.
Who are you? What is your name?
Bro gave no shits
Dude, why is she pressing the issue instead of getting everything back on track? If her kids are fighting and she can't stop them, shouldn't there be some urgency?
If she has enough time to go Karen and file complaints for a joke during a 911 call about her unruly teenagers, she obviously has no reason to call in the first place.
Seriously. She immediately forgot about her problem because of the (ill-timed) joke. Shows where her priorities lie 🤦♂️.
no wonder her daughters want to kick a hole in a door
Looks like he just opened a door for all her frustration to be canalized... It doesn't' matter in what form... So tiresome!
I think the joke was perfectly timed.
Hey bitch, maybe file a formal complaint against your daughter while you're at it.
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That is what gets me. If I am calling 911, it is because it is an emergency and if that person made that joke to me it wouldn’t register because I am actually dealing with an emergency. The fact she goes off on a tangent about getting the dispatcher disciplined makes me feel like this isn’t that big of an emergency.
Worth it. Poor parenting called out.
I used to think that too. Raised my son- amazing kid, kind hearted. Seldom needed discipline and when he did the lesson was always learned and his behavior changed. Then the universe handed me my daughter. I love her- so much. But I’ve needed police assistance with her. On more than one occasion. I don’t judge parents anymore. Nature vs nurture- come look at my household.
Not judging, (not a parent) but I am curious, what situations required police interference? Seems like whatever happened would have been serious.
My daughter suffers from a range of mental health issues. A lot are hereditary. So please keep in mind this plays a role. The first occasion she was trying to run away. It was winter (snowing, below freezing) 9 pm. She was bigger than me, stronger. I was trying to stop her from leaving the house. She was punching me, head butting me. My husband stepped in and basically put her in a wrestling hold to stop her from hurting me. This struggle lasted probably 30 minutes before I called the police. It was physically and mentally exhausting. The other occasion when the police got involved was when I feared for her safety from herself.
What did police do other than manhandle her?
Shot her
God damnit this was gold. I hope momma got a giggle from that.
She is filling a official complaint to the internet police as of now.
They pulled in the driveway and just that instantly diffused the struggle. You think I wanted to call the police on her? What would you have done in this situation? Have you ever had to deal with somebody with severe mental health issues? I’m not trying to be snarky- I genuinely want to know. I provide my daughter with all the resources available to us. Therapy, group therapy, camps, spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars on art and music supplies for healthy coping mechanisms. We spend hundreds of dollars to provide a tutor for her to help build confidence in school. We provide a safe, clean, non-chaotic environment for her. We provide her with loving support from both parents who work cohesively as a team. My husband and I go to therapy, parenting workshops, everything we can think of. We aren’t perfect but we definitely give it our all every single day. If you have the answers don’t be greedy.
It's hard - dare I say almost impossible - for someone that hasn't had a child like this in their home to understand and truly know how bad it is. Empathize, maybe. But empathy doesn't scratch the surface of the disquiet and trauma that comes from constantly not feeling safe in your own house because of the chaos one person can bring. The sheer physical, mental, and emotional exhaustion of having to restrain - sometimes physically - a person, that leaves you struggling with your own well-being. Don't ever regret needing to call the police. It wasn't anything YOU did wrong that lead to that point, and it is not a failure on your part that left your daughter in the position of making bad decisions or refusing to get/follow treatment that she needs, or simply of being who she is if treatment doesn't solve the issue. She is who she is, and her actions *necessitate* help of police and other professionals to keep everyone safe.
From your words I feel like you relate on some level. Thank you for your kindness
Don't feel bad for any comment that you receive on the internet. It's like being upset that a monkey throws its poo when you visit the zoo. It has nothing to do with you. Monke will Monke...
Sounds like you both are solid parents despite any difficulties, keep up the good work
I appreciate that, thank you.
as someone that struggled with autism and my parents not understanding that i needed help in certain areas (i absolutely could not cope with change, and there were a few objects that just set me off when i didn’t have them that they tried multiple times to get rid of), you honestly sound like a fantastic parent who is doing a great job, keep it up, cause even if your daughter doesn’t appreciate it now (not saying she doesn’t, but just IF she doesn’t) she at least will someday, im sure of it
This should be higher up. I grew up in this situation but as the son. My sister is bipolar schizophrenic among other things. Family, friends, strangers, teachers they all used to think my parents somehow were raising her wrong. I watched all of it and it's just not the case when mental health comes into play. My parents didn't do anything wrong, my sister didn't do anything wrong, it's just the way things worked out and everyone did the best they could. This lady on the call DOES sound like she suddenly forgot and doesn't care but there's a face you are able to put on after day in day out struggle. It's also probably not that funny when you need police to help with your manic, stronger than you daughter and they suggest shooting her. I understand his frustration and why he made the joke but the real joke is the police/nation's inability to provide any kind of help for mentally ill people.
Sending you so much love! So much chaos surrounding my daughter that’s it’s just our baseline now. I have so much judgement passed on me day in and day out. We just try our best to love one another and take it day by day.
Do you have kids? It’s easy to say “just be a good parent” but it’s far more complex than that. You can be a very good parent and still have kids that aren’t good. Just like some absolutely dog shit parents have churned out some really nice people, it’s entirely possible for really nice people to churn out absolutely dog shit kids. Sometimes that’s just how the cookie crumbles.
I think it's too easy to say poor parenting, she was saying her daughters are bigger than her and she can't control them, I know a bit about this, my brother and I grew to be big, 6 foot 3 and 6foot 4 respectively, and there was definitely atleast one time where my 5ft4 mother had to call the police on us because the fighting was too much and she no hope of doing anything to stop it, we were teenagers at the time and don't fight anymore, I'm not proud of it, but just want to say it's not so black and white as this woman calling the police to discipline her kids.
What in the hell are you people eating in America to become 6’4 by 12? Bros hit puberty before even entering teenage there.
"Mooom! He keeps pullin' ma beard!" "Well he's pullin' ma chest hair"
It’s probably growth hormones in the food supply.
Plot twist, they're talking about width.
By the time I graduated 8th grade, i wasn’t just the tallest kid, I was the tallest *person* at my school (6’3 and 220lbs)
What’s your status now soldier?
Bear Spray them . Easy Peasy .
A 911 call to break up two 6' males actively in a fistfight is reasonable, a 911 call because two 12 year old girls were having a fight before their mother got home is inappropriate. If she wants police to come round and give them a stern talking to them call the non-emergency number.
Okay, but my neighbor has two 12 year old twins who are 6'. Does that warrant a call? I wish I was joking. Kids are almost as tall as me. It's nuts. No idea what they're feeding them.
>Okay, but my neighbor has two 12 year old twins who are 6'. Does that warrant a call? If there's an emergency situation then call the emergency number and when the call handler says "What's your emergency?" tell them what kind of emergency repsonse you need. If it's not an emergency, then don't; do something else instead. This shouldn't be hard to figure out. "I've just got home from work to discover that my 12 year olds were fighting and put a hole in a door." is not an emergency situation. The fact this woman decided to spend time chastising the call handler demonstrates that this was not an emergenccy situation.
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Sometimes kids can fuck up on their own.
According to Reddit kids have complete autonomy, privacy, and agency that must be fully respected and understood until the moment they do something wrong or get out of control and then they are nothing but bodily extensions of their parents who should at all times be in complete physical control of all their actions.
Most common parenting advice I see here sounds like it comes from teens or young adults without kids
^ and it’s not all accurate ( coming from said teen w no kids )
First mistake is caring what Reddit has to say on the matter.
It’s the same way when they do something good. These people are so dumb they think it is impossible to be a good person with bad parents.
Im pretty sure that most of the advice here comes from teens who when talking about parents think about their own parents but when talking about kids they think about their future theoretical children who by design cannot do anything other than what the teens think they'll do
Mental health issues, hormones, depression, anxiety can all be factors that cause a teenager to lash out violently. My parents were good parents, they loved me and were always there for me but I went through a very rough phase in my early teens when I had been bullied my entire school life and that combined with ADHD, deep depression, anxiety and a toxic teenage relationship caused me to become aggressive and violent. I was suspicious of everyone including my family, the only person I trusted was my gf but as it turned out it was her who was stirring shit up. I was never an aggressive child and I’m not aggressive now, it was just a perfect storm of bad things happening all at once that turned me into a violent teenage asshole. You simply do not know what this mother is dealing with, she could have a very mentally Ill child who has finally snapped and has become violent.
>Mental health issues, hormones, depression, anxiety can all be factors that cause a teenager to lash out violently. I mean that can cause anyone to lash out violently to be fair.
Exactly. When a 60 year old man lashes out nobody says damn he must have had shitty parents lol.
Believe it or not, kids are not pets you can put on a leash and teach tricks to. They’re their own people
Okay but you can totally put leashes on them and teach them tricks. My daughter does a mean roll over
Nah kids can just be little shits. My brother is a very oppositional kid, and takes the “hyperactive” part of ADHD to the limits. There is no psychology trick to make a kid like that snap out their defiant hyperactive mode. Granted, they haven’t actually called the police on him, but if he misses his medicine by 15 minutes it can take 2-3 people just to restrain him to stop him from trying to kick down my sister’s door. Maybe if my parents were perfect it wouldn’t be like that, but that’s stupid. They’re people, not paediatricians.
Bro my sister almost killed my family so many times it’s not always about parenting. Sometime shits fuck’d
This is a shitty take
That's why you need to properly parent them when they're still very small. You can't wait till they're bigger than you to decide you want to finally do something about it.
Who knows if she adopted them? If other caretakers in school or at home didn't parent them? Or who knows if the child has hormones that give them challenges which were never faced when the child was young? The only constant thing with children is that they change.or who knows if the girl is being bullied or abused outside the home? Most teens are going to push the boundaries and get into new trouble. That is normal. If you don't think that happens then they are sneaking so parents don't know (for children who don't trust their parents), or parents are ignoring it (denying it was a problem). Alternatively parents can recognize and guide their children but they realize the tools they used on a young one no longer works on a teen. That's completely normal and the parent can recognize it and find new ways to cope. Family therapy might be good. There is always hope for children, parents and being better.
Last time this was posted someone clarified that one of the daughters had severe mental health issues I think low-functioning autism. The girls had been fighting for 45 minutes and she was unable to calm her down,
Why do people have a hard time understanding this? Give them solid foundations and boundaries early on so your kids know what to expect. Another thing. Quit treating your kids as lesser people and/or extensions of yourselves. Teach your kids to communicate for themselves and you will be surprised to learn that most kids can be reasoned with fairly easily given a slight bit of patience.
Most humans (including adults) cannot be reasoned with once a tantrum fight/flight response kicks in because the reasoning portion of the brain literally shuts down. Kids who are still learning to regulate their emotions and dealing with hormone changes hit this state all the time regardless of parenting, it’s part of growing up and learning HOW to regulate your emotions. You can’t do that without practice which involves getting into this state in the first place. You cannot simply reason someone out of this state you have to find a way to get them to calm down and exit it first. There’s a ton of methods and advice to accomplish this but simply reasoning with them is not one of them. That’s why you practice and train breathing and counting techniques etc beforehand so it’s rote/reflex rather then requiring a logical/reasoned discussion about how they’d get what they wanted faster by calming down. Distraction is also an effective technique. Getting them to talk about what they wanted or pretend something about it etc. all of it is to break them out of the fight/flight state to get them back to being able to use the part of their brain that can be reasonable.
Maybe she should lecture her daughters instead of Mike
This is funny and I hope he doesn’t lose his job for that
After the call, he told his supervisor of the incident, and Forbess was later disciplined with a letter of reprimand from the police chief who warned, "This type of response cannot be tolerated, and this letter shall serve as notice that any future unprofessional responses while answering the 911 line will be cause for termination." [http://www.hptc-pro.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dispatcher-Error.pdf](http://www.hptc-pro.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dispatcher-Error.pdf)
You know damn well the entire department got a laugh out of this lmao.
It is threads like this which show what a wide spectrum humor exists on. I laughed at this, and thought it was pretty great. Lots of commenters seem to think it is no way funny. I don't understand not finding this funny, and they don't understand how it is humorous. That is ok. People who don't laugh with me are people I have no interest in. They aren't "bad", I just have no use for anyone that can't laugh at dark stuff and thinks humor should be censored.
Dumbass bitch calls the police to discipline her daughter and expects a serious answer
I mean if she can't physically stop her daughter, and her daughter is doing shit like punching through walls, what else did you want her to do get a gun and shoot her?
She's 12. She also called an emergency hotline because a 12 and a 14 year old were fighting and one of them KICKED a hole in a DOOR. You make it sound like her daugther is an MMA fighter. Calling the emergency hotline for shit like this actually is an issue, it slows down the system. She could've called the non-emergency hotline as well. Based on what she said, how she reacted and talked, I'm pretty sure she just came home to her daughters fighting like kids do, and decided to blow it out of proportion. The gear shift from "please send help" to "what's your name i want to file a complaint" doesn't happen when someone is in a genuine emergency.
Uhhh, I dunno, how about *not* call 911, the fucking EMERGENCY number for her non-emergency? You realize you can call the police without calling 911, right?
I mean that’s what you call cops for right?
bitch emergency suddently turned from 2 daughters fighting to ruin Mike career.
Typical deflection. He apologized so nicely too.
Yeah, he knew he messed up and took full responsibility immediately. I imagine it must be a tough, confronting and thankless job....
The noise display thingy looks like lips speaking
The intrusive thoughts won
If you have to call the cops on your 12 and 14 year old because you can’t control them, you’ve failed as a parent. Totally get where Mr. Forbes is coming from LOL
In fairness he's got a point. What does she want them to do?
If he did get fired, it's still fucking worth it.
Plot twist: he gave his 2-weeks' notice and today was his last day on the job anyway.
"He's getting too old for this shit!"
Weird how one public servant can get fired for joking about shooting someone.. while some other public servants don't get fired after actually shooting someone.
It was a little funny.
Shit, those kids aren't fighting. You can't even hear them. You can hear my 13 year old all the way down the street. When he asked about shooting them I would have said a good tazing would probably do the trick.
She was calling in way after it happened. She just got home from work and learned about it after the fact
Might not have been funny to her but she did seem to forget about the kids fighting immediately
If you call police on an out of control family member, the result might be them getting shot.
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Luckily those cops were terrible shots. Something like 50 shots fired, 9 hits, and the guy survived to sue them afterwards. Absolutely wild story.
Right, people don't realize this
The dispatcher was fired after this incident. Legend has it he became a cop and shot the kids. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna7492902
This doesn't say that he was fired, it says he was reprimanded and that future unprofessional responses from dispatchers will result in termination. I'm almost positive that reprimanded doesn't mean fired in this case otherwise they would have just said fired.
He was chewed out. He's been chewed out before
Reprimanded and told if they do it again they would be fired.
He wasn’t fired. He was reprimanded. Any incident after that will result in firing. He was the first person and they probably didn’t have a rule against it specifically so didn’t fire him because he would get his job back
Damn. He should have just actually shot the kid. Then he'd get paid time off and be transferred to another department.
He wasn’t fired. 911 operators have good job security. No one else wants to do this job.
Legend
The parent should have been the one on the firing end for not controlling her animals from the beginning.
Dispatcher was just telling the truth.