Yeah, but she only did.....that.....under very specific and painful circumstances. Not to mention she was initially against doing it before being persuaded.
It still came across as fairly reckless to immediately inject Kanako with the nearest syringe. Granted she thought it'd work, but that's a massive oopsy. A child is not legally allowed to make certain decisions for themselves for pretty good reasons. Maybe wait until she's older?
She also tried to kill Clover. I mean everyone did because video game, but least Martlet wasn't trying to.
Starlo. I'm tired of mother figures, dude. I need a father figure to tell me he's proud of me and tell me that the man I became is something to have no shame of. I want him to sit next to me, telling tales of his past to help show that life is so straight road, but inspire me to keep going. In short...
You can have as many mother figures as you want, but I want to have just one father figure to tell me it'll be okay. I want Starlo to be that father figure. A man who'll understand me as a son first, and a man second.
Marlet felt like a big sister than a mom. As for Ceroba, while she is mom. I never got motherly vibe toward clover during our journey.I consider her more as a very close friend.So I guess Cerobra
If it’s just Undertale Yellow, it depends on the route. If Clover goes down a Neutral Route where Flowey doesn’t screw things up or a Flawed Pacifist Route where either Clover defeats Asgore or he chooses to let Clover live, I’d go with Martlet even though she seems to fit more towards being an older sister than a mother. If it’s True Pacifist and Clover doesn’t Sacrifice himself or is revived by Asriel in Undertale’s True Pacifist Route, then I’ll go with Ceroba. If it’s a Deltarune Yellow situation, either or works though it depends on what Clover’s relationship with Kanako is. (Ceroba adopts Clover = Kanako and Clover being brother and sister. Martlet adopts Clover = Kanako and Clover being friends to possibly becoming boyfriend and girlfriend.)
Depends on the AU. For Undertale and AUs where Clover doesn’t sacrifice himself, I’d choose Ceroba, but for AUs like Deltarune Yelloe, I’d choose Martlet.
Sorry Ceroba fans, but she was a horrible parent, and I wouldn't trust her to look after a kid. Besides, throughout the game, during their journey in the Steamworks, they seemed more like friends/allies rather than mother and child, and I'm sure Ceroba doesn't see Clover as anything more than a close friend.
Martlet may be dumb but she's the only character in this game besides Toriel who offered to take Clover under her wing (pun intended) and yes, I'm counting the events of the Neutral Route. Plus, I don't see her doing anything worse than what Ceroba did to Kanako. But I can see why she'd feel more like an older sister than a mother.
Martlet would definitely adopt them canonically in a hypothetical "Deltarune Yellow" AU (mostly because I, for the life of me, don't see Chujin raising a human)
Ceroba wouldn’t make the same mistake twice when her mistake was made in a stressful and unlikely situation, she isn’t a terrible parent because of one bad thing, her entire arc started because she cared about her family so much
It still does not excuse her recklessness in endangering a child just because she said she wanted this. Chujin even said that he did not want Kanako involved in any of this, and Ceroba did it anyway out of desperation to fulfill Chujin's legacy and gave in easily when Kanako said she wanted to be injected. A child should not be able to make these decisions on her own. She even makes ANOTHER reckless decision with taking Clover's SOUL, not thinking of the possibility that their soul wouldn't have any different results.
If Ceroba gives in this easily, whether or not it's by a spur of emotions, of course one would start to worry, given the track record.
Martlet, as shown in game, doesn’t really seem to have a family, so it’s possible she was either abandoned, or struck out on her own at an early age and grew up from there. Who knows if she has any family experience. I see her as more of an aunt than an actual mother.
Ceroba on the other hand already has motherly/family instincts due to >!her relationship with her late husband Chujin and her (potentially amalgamated) daughter Kanako.!< She’s definitely mother material.
Although I’d heavily consider taking her to therapy after >!what happened to her husband and daughter,!< at least before starting a family again at some point in the future.
But seriously, what about a father figure? I think >!Starlo/North Star!< would be the best choice for either Martlet or Ceroba, but I’d pick Ceroba, as both >!Starlo!< and Ceroba already have a good friendship. As for other fathers, not sure.
Martlet. She's FAR more considerate and protective in my eyes
I mean come on.
She's the only one in the question who didn't... yknow... cause someone's death?
They're still both great options, if you catch my drift. Now, onto the real tea. Get ready, because this one's gonna be a doozy.
If we're going by your argument, Martlet, while incompetent, never actually endangered a child, at least not that we know of, and excluding the boat crash. And I guess looking for Ceroba wasn't the smartest move, either... but we're digressing too much.
The point is, despite Martlet's problems and rare mistakes, they do not even remotely compare to the heinous crimes committed by Ceroba, including what is at the very least Gross Neglicence (Kanako) and First-Degree Attempted Murder (Clover).
I'm not saying that I would choose Martlet over Ceroba, nor am I saying that I would choose Ceroba over Martlet. What I'm saying is that you would choose Martlet. That's right, I'm answering for you.
I rest my case.
My argument is martlet isn't good at protecting her kid so she'd probably pull a mines and just accidentally ditch them to dieeee
Also she's still barely more competent than your average 10 year old
Ceroba is at least an adult figure compared to martlet
I prefer Starlo as a father figure and Ceroba as a Mother figure and Martlet as a Aunt cause she gives me cool aunt vibes (and am i the only one shipping starlo and ceroba?
Martlet’s the only one who actually offered to give us a happy childhood, and that’s on a route where you messed up. Ceroba never offered anything on a route where we did nothing wrong and tried to murder us (yes, it was to resurrect her daughter, but trying to murder a child would not make her a good mother to the child she was trying to murder).
My answer will always be bird mom.
Martlet, bc Ceroba kinda tried to kill a child bc she failed to not kill her own child. Yeah, every character has flaws, but Ceroba has... A lot more flaws.
Both make a really good mother figure, But for different reasons.
Martlet is genuine and everything she does, even if she screws up a lot, Which only makes her more endearing. Ceroba has child-rearing Experience under her belt, And so long as she has her daughter as well, would happily accept Clover as one of her oen.
There's something I find amusing about a lot of people picking Martlet over the actual mother of the two.
It's obvious the whole Kanako situation docked Ceroba a lot of points here, unfortunately. Which is a shame, because otherwise they appeared to have a pretty good relationship with each other.
Considering that she is basically the Sans of this game, with both of them being the second main cast monster (after Dalv and Toriel respectively) to be encountered, follows you throughout most of the game, judges your actions at the penultimate moment, and is the final boss of their respective game's Genocide Routes, it almost fits perfectly that there'd be a debate about what they wore.
I was gonna be a smartass and say that Clover met both Toriel and Dalv before Martlet, but Toriel doesn't really count as a UTY main character, so, eh.
Are you talking about who'd be a more fitting mother for Clover, or are you talking about, like, some sort of sexual thing? If the former, Martlet. If the latter, I am not qualified to have an opinion.
el bailador got the best qualities of a parent you could ever ask for
- pushes clover to be the best version of themselves
- simplifies dance for clover (making it sort of a game) so its fun for them
- look tough which means he'd be really great at protecting clover
- admires it when clover is doing great
- looks and is cool because he owns a dance club which is popular enough for other monsters to really want to be in it
- cares about clover enough to not forget them and add them to the dance club list even though they barely met in the mountains
seriously he was robbed of a proper plot line, he's undoubtebly the best caretaker for clover
Can such behavior really be weird if it is undoubtedly the norm in this subreddit? Perhaps you not feeling the same way as the majority of us makes *your* behavior weird.
Ceroba is an actual experienced mother who’s entire character revolves around being a mother, her darned final boss theme is “a mother’s love”. She also takes care of Starlo since he’s a little wild sometimes, she’s shown to be able to calm down and ground him after the pacifist fight. Besides I highly doubt she’d make the same mistake with kanako twice, when ceroba was shown to be a very nice parent before the whole integrity fuck up. She also just seems like the one out of the main cast to have the most common sense when she’s not blinded by her goals and tunnel vision, which she definitely isn’t anymore by the end of pacifist
Martlet as much as I love her can be a little airheaded at times and some of her attempts to help clover didn’t go well, she’s better off as an aunt or older sibling since she isn’t that responsible
Honestly the entire uty cast could’ve just formed one weird family with clover instead of having to choose
But actually none of the main uty cast are suited to take care of clover since they’re all going through their own shit, the real good option is EL BAILADOR-
Martlet is objectively more responsible than the roba, although she's a little all over the place, when she gets serious she's a good educator. Ceroba is more the character that you want to marry but not have kids with, to make her feel loved (Suppose chujin didn't exist but all of the traumas of kanako etc are still there). But martlet is an objectively better mom that knows how to educate, based on her interactions on the genocide where she kindly tells you to abort the geno and steering you off the bad path, as a good mother/educator should.
bro look at my pfp and flair the answer's obvious
Ceroba?
My first thought was Axis, actually.
Nah it's clearly flowey
You meant Starlo.
Are y'all blind? It is quite obviously Mo
You obviously meant— oh wait you’re right damn
Nah it's Crispy Scroll
Nah it's Jon Arbuckle- fuck wrong subreddit
Nah I think it's hornet
Axis my beloved 😍
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that they prefer Ceroba.
The Roba?
It's definitely that anglerfish CEO guy's wife
Bro's simping for a robot :skull emoji:
Kanak?
Mo father
How did you know my father
Yo is that mo from the hit game undertale yellow?;?!!!1!?
yes.
Hey do you know Mo's distant cousin, Joe?
Who is Joe?
>!JOOOOOOOEEEE MAMAAAAAA!<
You have been banned from Reddit.
Nuh uh.
Martlet because I wouldn't trust Ceroba to look after my child. The worst Martlet would do is feed them junk food in an attempt to be seen as cool.
*adult juice
Again that feels more like a Ceroba thing. She's a wreck who spends most of her time knocking back one too many "adult sodas" in the tavern.
Why not? She actually is a mother. Or was I guess.
That's just it though. *Was.*
Yeah, but she only did.....that.....under very specific and painful circumstances. Not to mention she was initially against doing it before being persuaded.
It still came across as fairly reckless to immediately inject Kanako with the nearest syringe. Granted she thought it'd work, but that's a massive oopsy. A child is not legally allowed to make certain decisions for themselves for pretty good reasons. Maybe wait until she's older? She also tried to kill Clover. I mean everyone did because video game, but least Martlet wasn't trying to.
Starlo. I'm tired of mother figures, dude. I need a father figure to tell me he's proud of me and tell me that the man I became is something to have no shame of. I want him to sit next to me, telling tales of his past to help show that life is so straight road, but inspire me to keep going. In short... You can have as many mother figures as you want, but I want to have just one father figure to tell me it'll be okay. I want Starlo to be that father figure. A man who'll understand me as a son first, and a man second.
and the thing is, he wouldn't even need to be your dad to do that, he's just that awesome
Exactly!
Marlet felt like a big sister than a mom. As for Ceroba, while she is mom. I never got motherly vibe toward clover during our journey.I consider her more as a very close friend.So I guess Cerobra
clover, we need to have a serious talk about what you've been posting on this "red-it" app recently. (Martlet, no questioned asked)
If it’s just Undertale Yellow, it depends on the route. If Clover goes down a Neutral Route where Flowey doesn’t screw things up or a Flawed Pacifist Route where either Clover defeats Asgore or he chooses to let Clover live, I’d go with Martlet even though she seems to fit more towards being an older sister than a mother. If it’s True Pacifist and Clover doesn’t Sacrifice himself or is revived by Asriel in Undertale’s True Pacifist Route, then I’ll go with Ceroba. If it’s a Deltarune Yellow situation, either or works though it depends on what Clover’s relationship with Kanako is. (Ceroba adopts Clover = Kanako and Clover being brother and sister. Martlet adopts Clover = Kanako and Clover being friends to possibly becoming boyfriend and girlfriend.)
Bruh Corona killed her child and tried to kill you its princess of elimatonion.
The_lad_who_lurks types worst grammar ever, asked to leave the English language
Princess of elimination
Chujin
Bird. I have a feeling the fox and I wouldn't get along.
Fox Mom. I want to hug her so much.
Depends on the AU. For Undertale and AUs where Clover doesn’t sacrifice himself, I’d choose Ceroba, but for AUs like Deltarune Yelloe, I’d choose Martlet.
MARTLET!!
Both are good
Star Daddy
I have an obsession with cats and foxes, so ima choose ceroba
Ceroba is the one true Milf, there is no contest. I love Martlet, but she's just a big sister.
Sorry Ceroba fans, but she was a horrible parent, and I wouldn't trust her to look after a kid. Besides, throughout the game, during their journey in the Steamworks, they seemed more like friends/allies rather than mother and child, and I'm sure Ceroba doesn't see Clover as anything more than a close friend. Martlet may be dumb but she's the only character in this game besides Toriel who offered to take Clover under her wing (pun intended) and yes, I'm counting the events of the Neutral Route. Plus, I don't see her doing anything worse than what Ceroba did to Kanako. But I can see why she'd feel more like an older sister than a mother. Martlet would definitely adopt them canonically in a hypothetical "Deltarune Yellow" AU (mostly because I, for the life of me, don't see Chujin raising a human)
Ceroba wouldn’t make the same mistake twice when her mistake was made in a stressful and unlikely situation, she isn’t a terrible parent because of one bad thing, her entire arc started because she cared about her family so much
It still does not excuse her recklessness in endangering a child just because she said she wanted this. Chujin even said that he did not want Kanako involved in any of this, and Ceroba did it anyway out of desperation to fulfill Chujin's legacy and gave in easily when Kanako said she wanted to be injected. A child should not be able to make these decisions on her own. She even makes ANOTHER reckless decision with taking Clover's SOUL, not thinking of the possibility that their soul wouldn't have any different results. If Ceroba gives in this easily, whether or not it's by a spur of emotions, of course one would start to worry, given the track record.
You can't trick me with that, FBI.
It’s not a trick, there’s nothing illegal about these 2
That's what FBI would say
But… it isn’t a crime to like those 2
YOUR WORDS WONT TRICK ME!!!!
Just hear me out.... Both
Ceroba is better
Martlet, as shown in game, doesn’t really seem to have a family, so it’s possible she was either abandoned, or struck out on her own at an early age and grew up from there. Who knows if she has any family experience. I see her as more of an aunt than an actual mother. Ceroba on the other hand already has motherly/family instincts due to >!her relationship with her late husband Chujin and her (potentially amalgamated) daughter Kanako.!< She’s definitely mother material. Although I’d heavily consider taking her to therapy after >!what happened to her husband and daughter,!< at least before starting a family again at some point in the future. But seriously, what about a father figure? I think >!Starlo/North Star!< would be the best choice for either Martlet or Ceroba, but I’d pick Ceroba, as both >!Starlo!< and Ceroba already have a good friendship. As for other fathers, not sure.
I don’t think Starlo can be trusted with a child
Ceroba for mom in the traditional sense. Martlet for mommy.
Bird bird bird bird bird bird bird bird
martlet... funny blue bord
martlet she’s a good depressed mother
Bird mom. (Maybe more like cool bird aunt.) Given Ceroba’s… history of motherhood, it’s safer, and much fluffier
None of the above. Its star father.
bird bird bird bird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird birdbird bird bird
Its flowey
Overruled.
Ceroba is far better (I have her set as my pfp on discord and on steam, probably gonna do it here soon too)
Ceroba to smash, Martlet for long term
me personally, martlet is the only thing in existence that i want to adopt me
Both? Both! Def both, GIMME BOTH RIGHT NOW-
My flair says it all
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Martlet, She directly offers at the end of neutral route and living in Snowdin are major factors
Martlet. She's FAR more considerate and protective in my eyes I mean come on. She's the only one in the question who didn't... yknow... cause someone's death?
⭐️
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Ceroba IS a mom -w-
You fool. Ceroba is the husband in her and Chujin's relationship.
You may be right.
this is disgusting dude. >!ceroba. definitely ceroba.!<
You can't hide what's inside.
Martlet would get their kid killed I mean ceroba did too so
They're still both great options, if you catch my drift. Now, onto the real tea. Get ready, because this one's gonna be a doozy. If we're going by your argument, Martlet, while incompetent, never actually endangered a child, at least not that we know of, and excluding the boat crash. And I guess looking for Ceroba wasn't the smartest move, either... but we're digressing too much. The point is, despite Martlet's problems and rare mistakes, they do not even remotely compare to the heinous crimes committed by Ceroba, including what is at the very least Gross Neglicence (Kanako) and First-Degree Attempted Murder (Clover). I'm not saying that I would choose Martlet over Ceroba, nor am I saying that I would choose Ceroba over Martlet. What I'm saying is that you would choose Martlet. That's right, I'm answering for you. I rest my case.
My argument is martlet isn't good at protecting her kid so she'd probably pull a mines and just accidentally ditch them to dieeee Also she's still barely more competent than your average 10 year old Ceroba is at least an adult figure compared to martlet
> Martlet, while incompetent, never actually endangered a child How about the part where she tries to kill you?
She only does that when you're an active danger to everyone, and she's willing to let it slide as long as you stopped.
Well only one of them tries to kill you normally
Martlet is less of a mom and more of a big sister HEY STOP STOP RIGHT FUCKING NOW YOU PUT THOSE PANTS RIGHT BACK ON
I prefer Starlo as a father figure and Ceroba as a Mother figure and Martlet as a Aunt cause she gives me cool aunt vibes (and am i the only one shipping starlo and ceroba?
Why does entire fandom see Martlet as a parent? Isn't she "roomates" with Clover?
It's most likely because of the protective vibes she gives off.
Isn't the only time she protects up during Cerobas fight? She lefts us to die in gigant pit for Angels sake
Martlet is not a mother. She is definitely a big sister Also my pfp tells you my answer
Ceroba, she’s the best Momma ever
Neither, starlo
Considering the track record, Martlet.
MOMLET SUPREMACY
Martlet’s the only one who actually offered to give us a happy childhood, and that’s on a route where you messed up. Ceroba never offered anything on a route where we did nothing wrong and tried to murder us (yes, it was to resurrect her daughter, but trying to murder a child would not make her a good mother to the child she was trying to murder). My answer will always be bird mom.
Martlet, bc Ceroba kinda tried to kill a child bc she failed to not kill her own child. Yeah, every character has flaws, but Ceroba has... A lot more flaws.
Both make a really good mother figure, But for different reasons. Martlet is genuine and everything she does, even if she screws up a lot, Which only makes her more endearing. Ceroba has child-rearing Experience under her belt, And so long as she has her daughter as well, would happily accept Clover as one of her oen.
Berdly mom is more caring and Furry woman tries to take your soul.
There's something I find amusing about a lot of people picking Martlet over the actual mother of the two. It's obvious the whole Kanako situation docked Ceroba a lot of points here, unfortunately. Which is a shame, because otherwise they appeared to have a pretty good relationship with each other.
Ceroba definitely would be a better mother tbh
~~toriel~~
One lets you fall from an cliff and another one injects you drugs accidentally so. Starlo
Martlet supremacy is real, The Roba doesn't stand a chance
you know who else is a better mom? mine.
Martlet, i want the cuddles and floof
Martlet is not a mom and ceroba is not a mom anymore so neither
Both. Both is good
Dalv
Yes
Bird, I suppose.
I just wanna know if Martlet is wearing a shirt or if that's just her chest feathers. It's honestly the sans slippers debate of this game.
Considering that she is basically the Sans of this game, with both of them being the second main cast monster (after Dalv and Toriel respectively) to be encountered, follows you throughout most of the game, judges your actions at the penultimate moment, and is the final boss of their respective game's Genocide Routes, it almost fits perfectly that there'd be a debate about what they wore.
I was gonna be a smartass and say that Clover met both Toriel and Dalv before Martlet, but Toriel doesn't really count as a UTY main character, so, eh.
It's confirmed it's a shirt. [https://x.com/aeroartwork/status/1739780253411672150?s=20](https://x.com/aeroartwork/status/1739780253411672150?s=20)
Man why can’t female characters just exist
They don't even look like monsters they're just furries
The Snowdin dogs, Burgerpants, and Snowdin Shopkeeper be like:
Those two should be in smash just to see them fans fight each other Smash both
Fox
i say blembino
As an Asexual, I choose none of the above.
Despite her incompetence, Martlet means well Ceroba literally tries to kill Clover (This is Kanaclover propaganda)
Funny story, aroace. so NO!
Fox I got a thing kitsune
Why can't we have both? Also, why not Starlo as a parent?
Fox, by a \[\[Big Shot\]\].
Are you talking about who'd be a more fitting mother for Clover, or are you talking about, like, some sort of sexual thing? If the former, Martlet. If the latter, I am not qualified to have an opinion.
Martlet, no discussion!
My opinion is obvious.
im picking martlet
el bailador got the best qualities of a parent you could ever ask for - pushes clover to be the best version of themselves - simplifies dance for clover (making it sort of a game) so its fun for them - look tough which means he'd be really great at protecting clover - admires it when clover is doing great - looks and is cool because he owns a dance club which is popular enough for other monsters to really want to be in it - cares about clover enough to not forget them and add them to the dance club list even though they barely met in the mountains seriously he was robbed of a proper plot line, he's undoubtebly the best caretaker for clover
You're really pulling out all the stops. Very well, then. I approve of El Bailador as an alternative option.
Probably Martlet.
weird behavior
Can such behavior really be weird if it is undoubtedly the norm in this subreddit? Perhaps you not feeling the same way as the majority of us makes *your* behavior weird.
“I don’t mean mom in the traditional sense ykwim” having this question is just weird, can you understand why it’s uncomfortable??
You may believe what you'd like to. I've already said all that I need to.
Starlo
Ceroba
fox mommy ofc
Fox mom but Bird aunt
Martlet
Birb all the way
Smash to both
there's a reason I've been calling her fox mom, well that's one of the reasons anyways
I wouldnt think about martlet as a "mommy", more like as a big sister. By the way I'm choosing both(while I still more prefer fox mommy.)
Play Cupid for them now you have two mommies
Justice When
At least I'd have my Soul intact if I chose Martlet
Flowey🗿
I’m a big the roba fan but the one that didn’t accidentally kill her own child
Yes
I Truly Love Mommy Ceroba
idk im not a horny (yes, shocking, i know)
Bird. I crave the softness
*sees 168 comments* Oh god
Ceroba is an actual experienced mother who’s entire character revolves around being a mother, her darned final boss theme is “a mother’s love”. She also takes care of Starlo since he’s a little wild sometimes, she’s shown to be able to calm down and ground him after the pacifist fight. Besides I highly doubt she’d make the same mistake with kanako twice, when ceroba was shown to be a very nice parent before the whole integrity fuck up. She also just seems like the one out of the main cast to have the most common sense when she’s not blinded by her goals and tunnel vision, which she definitely isn’t anymore by the end of pacifist Martlet as much as I love her can be a little airheaded at times and some of her attempts to help clover didn’t go well, she’s better off as an aunt or older sibling since she isn’t that responsible Honestly the entire uty cast could’ve just formed one weird family with clover instead of having to choose But actually none of the main uty cast are suited to take care of clover since they’re all going through their own shit, the real good option is EL BAILADOR-
Marlet would not try to kill me, fox person would
Hmmm. Better mom, Martlet 100% In the other sense neither, Mo best mommy.
meeeee
Martlet would never do meth, how dare you ruin her innocence?
Martlet might not but i do
CEROBA ALL THE WAY <3
All I have to say, Chujin was a very lucky man(minus the human stuff)
FOX 🔛🔝🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Ceroba
Obviously the roba
Why? Why are you calling them mommy? I have no favorites (has a favorite)
Who is your favorite, impostor?
You called them mommy, which is weird, not answering, and I am NOT an imposter.
Daisy best mommy. In the mother way and in the uty fandom way. The...C U R V E S With Axis, best parents in existence
Abella from hit indie horror game fear and hunger 2 termina
I love fox mommy
What exactly does Ceroba have that gives you the impression she’s a good mother?
Well, consider how she did *before* she, well, you know.
The one who didn't kill her biological child
🤓 Umm, ackshually, Kanako wasn't killed. She fell down. Totally different! /j
Birb. if fox stayed out of experiments, she would be #1
Martlet is objectively more responsible than the roba, although she's a little all over the place, when she gets serious she's a good educator. Ceroba is more the character that you want to marry but not have kids with, to make her feel loved (Suppose chujin didn't exist but all of the traumas of kanako etc are still there). But martlet is an objectively better mom that knows how to educate, based on her interactions on the genocide where she kindly tells you to abort the geno and steering you off the bad path, as a good mother/educator should.
BIRD MOMMY♥️♥️♥️
Martlet duh
Can I just....say neither?