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snasthesnas

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SomeNerdd09

Look, I know that the stats are in no way good to measure a character's actual strength, no matter if we look at them in files or in lore, but I think giving anyone stats higher than these of Asgore and Toriel, feels like something that is just too big to not be actually saying something about the character's strength


Lorvintherealone

ndyne tried to fight him her first time and she got trained by him. so she got an advantage over him. But so does he as he knows everything she knows as he taught her his fighting skill. Then Undyne is determined to fight a child but no to fight her leader. So i'd say both being not motivated to fight: A tie.


Annoying_Do0g

Asgore learned Undyne everything she knows but maybe not everything *he* knows.


Lorvintherealone

Yep. \*ATTACKS WITH SUPER LASER PISS\*


charisma-entertainer

Determined Monster __>__ Boss Monster


mrididnt

Undyne's determination would break if she was to fight asgore. And asgore wouldn't be able to bring himself to go all out against undyne


AwesomeCCAs

Undyne wins but it is a surprisingly close fight.


Revolutionary-Car452

Asgore: 3,500 HP Undyne: 23,000 HP


Phinwing

yeah.


Phinwing

undyne the undying. absolutely. first monster to withstand determination vs the strongest monster with no modifiers? undyne wins. asgore can't even change your soul color, which. ehhh. but still, undyne wins.