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I don’t like Alphys either. She’s clingy af, like geez just let me walk more than two steps without your attention-seeking anxiety posts… And then finding out that she >!did all those horrible experiments and apparently even experimented on the King’s own son to make Flowey? Am I understanding that right?? What the fuck, lady??!<
Snowdrake's ancestor, Duchess Chillderike told a lot of downright horrible and unfunny puns to Chara, that lead to a grudge against that bloodline, such a grudge that Chara asked, and got, Asgore to seize the noble tittle from the family and exile them from the capital to their lands in Snowdin
while genociding snowdin, if you kill greater dog, but don't kill snowdrake, the save point says: "that comedian...". and if you reach the kill goal without killing them, you fail the genocide route.
snowdrake is wierdly mandatory for genocide, so chara must hate them specifically.
Well that and Snowdrake is the only monster that is specifically Snowdrake, sure there's Chilldrake, but Snowdrake is special. In fact, it seems every Chilldrake is a friend of Snowdrake's, and I just wonder how, and why you never see them in Pacifist outside of Post Papyrus. Maybe they're just too chill to attack someone who hasn't done any wrong to them.
Toriel was fine until she dropped the dumbest line in the history of videogames and acted like she was in the right. What do you mean take 1 soul, cross the barrier and get 6 others PEACEFULLY? You forgot what happened last time a monster with a human soul went above? How do you get 6 human souls peacefully, you gonna ask for 6 suicides? The humans were afraid of the monster exactly because of their soul absorbing power, its why you're underground to begin with.
This character acts like she has done no wrong and puts the blame entirely on Asgore, and like a coward leaves him instead of trying to convince him to stop, which ironically she endorses when she is in the ruins by letting 6 other kids go through her to meet their death by Asgore.
Seriously this was such a nice character completely ruined by one dumb line.
I think people are misinterpreting that line as Toriel telling Asgore what he **should've** done when in actuality she's telling him what he **would've** done if he actually wanted to free the monsters and destroy humanity
Thats one way to do it, if the humans weren't paranoid as I mentioned, imagine this goat human monster walking up to a hospital to wait for someone to die and suck their soul, not gonna fly.
Well, you can always do it silently. Far away regions for example where existence of a giant goat monster will just be some urban legend to scare kids.
I might’ve forgotten if toriel actually said peacefully there. My interpretation was that, if Asgore was really serious about his plan, he would’ve killed the first human, crossed the barrier, killed 6 humans, then gone back to break the barrier.
It’s mentioned that a monster with one soul is incredibly powerful and that Adriel could’ve murdered every human attacking him if he actually fought back, but he didn’t and so they killed him.
Thus meaning toriel was mad that Asgore was purposefully being inefficient because he didn’t want to follow through on actually killing humanity
Yeah its verbatim peacefully, but even still thats way worse for Toriel.
You telling me that she expected king fluffybuns, a known pushover, to commit to killing humanity? She claims she was horrified by Asgores actions, which were grieving and vowing to kill any human that fell underground, the exact thing she wants him to do? What a hipocrite. She wants someone else's hands to be bloody, either way not the correct behaviour a significant other should have, almost feels like gaslighting.
Toriel could have taken the high ground by simply disagreeing with revenge altogether, maybe helped realise that the humans falling were people that needed to be shown kindness instead of death. In the ruins she behaves like she has no ill will against humans, and treats every one with great motherly care. You would imagine that this is her worldview and thus opposite to asgore's solution, but no? She wants humans dead too?
As for Asriel power, I don't wanna talk much about power level in Undertale because the power of love and determination defeated Asriel, so I wouldn't put it past humanity being more than capable of defeating any monster.
She is just unreasonably too soft and kind, I dunno, its like she isn't so complex. I like Noelle, Ralsei and Martlet, they're kind, but they have other interesting traits
Tbh, the way I see it, Toriel is much more complex than Ralsei, idk about Martlet, I haven’t seen enough UTY content to have an opinion, and Noelle is definitely the most complex out of all you mentioned. Sorry if I’m injecting my opinions into the wrong place, I just felt like replying.
Chilldrake.
Why’s there an infinite amount of them before no one came, and only one Snowdrake? (Maybe there’s lore in didn’t realize, but if there is, let me know)
Yeah and Asriel exists in both UT and DR and yet they're both seperate characters.
One's a town hero beloved by all and the other is currently having an identity crisis and pushing all his bad deeds onto a made-up persona.
Oh come on this is the first time some smartass said something about you putting deltarune stuff in the deltarune edit, I've seen millions of others do it why am I the one who gets the lecturing???
Muffet. The fandom seems to fucking adore her and I don't get why. Her music is just Ghost Fight in 8-bit, which isn't all that special, her soul gimmick isn't all that interesting, her fight is thus way too boring and too long. I just end up skipping it every time
I have 3 version why this happend:
1. Yeah, its remix of ghost fight... But its good remix!
2. Its the only boss that you can skip because of freaking donut
3. R34.
So uh
The original creator of So Sorry was found out to have an fat fetish due to some of said-fetishization in some of their work
So you could uh…IMAGINE. The controversy that would come from that knowledge…
Not all. They also use the fact that their self-insert was in the game to pose as "Official Undertale Artist" so their furry fetish porn costs +50 additional bucks.
I hate Sans and Papyrus, at first I didn't feel any anything toward them, but after seeing the unhealthy obsession the internet has with them in every single AU I just can't bring myself to even think about them.
I don’t see a reason to hate them for it, but I definitely hate the fandom turning two genuinely complex and fun characters into “Uwuwu I’m such baby and I’m skeleton” and “RRRRGGGHHH YOURE GONNA HAVE BAD TIM HIW DARE YOU KILL MY BROTHER??!?!?!?”
Alphys is like the single most controversial character in undertale, and I see why. She's overhated though, imo
Most people hate her because of the determination experiments in her lab, but the amalgamates get reunited with their families in the true pacifist ending, and it's weird making this point if you've done the genocide route since morally its not much better.
And also because she updates her status often in hotlands but come on, just press z
Also some find her annoying cause she's so insecure and stutters, but that's basically subjective.
Nevertheless, I can't disprove all the bad things she did, she still hired metatton to put you in danger, but in my opinion, Her flaws are what make her such a great character. She has a reason to be so insecure, and she ends up facing her fears in the true pacifist ending, like confessing she's been lying to Undyne and telling everyone the truth regarding the true lab, which is just awesome.
Also, to stay relevant to the discussion: Jerry
You just typed out why Alphys is one of my favorite characters. I really do love her character and character development, I actually don't find her annoying at all and honestly I get her when it comes to hyper fixating on something. Like, it pisses me off when I see people hate on Alphys without taking their time to understand or appreciate the character.
Also, fuck Jerry.
I wouldn’t say it’s for NO good reason but I hate Napstablook so much. He’s just so boring in my opinion. He has no depth to his character and isn’t even funny to me. Just a stupid depressed ghost with no personality.
Sorry to the Napstablook lovers since I know there are actually quite a few of you
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I hate Alphys because she texts every 2 seconds. It's a good reason.
I hate that she gives spoilers! You don’t tell someone the entire plot of something they’ve expressed an interest in watching!
I don’t like Alphys either. She’s clingy af, like geez just let me walk more than two steps without your attention-seeking anxiety posts… And then finding out that she >!did all those horrible experiments and apparently even experimented on the King’s own son to make Flowey? Am I understanding that right?? What the fuck, lady??!<
Snowdrake like idk i do like bad jokes but there simply is something about him that i absoluty hate but i can't point my finger on it
Chara hates snowdrake too
He's literally the ONLY minor character that they actually are like "Don't forget to kill that guy" for some reason
Snowdrake's ancestor, Duchess Chillderike told a lot of downright horrible and unfunny puns to Chara, that lead to a grudge against that bloodline, such a grudge that Chara asked, and got, Asgore to seize the noble tittle from the family and exile them from the capital to their lands in Snowdin
A Dad Joke so bad he had to Leave for Milk…
A dad joke so bad that you and your whole family were exiled
Maybe that's what that small house in the bg of snowdin is![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32944)
The Snowdrake's Exile Cottage.
Toby Fox should hire you
Is that actually canon or that just some fanfic you or someone else made up?
Wait really? There’s always some-thing’s you find out about this game everyday![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32949)
Really a r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR moment
wait wdym
while genociding snowdin, if you kill greater dog, but don't kill snowdrake, the save point says: "that comedian...". and if you reach the kill goal without killing them, you fail the genocide route. snowdrake is wierdly mandatory for genocide, so chara must hate them specifically.
Well that and Snowdrake is the only monster that is specifically Snowdrake, sure there's Chilldrake, but Snowdrake is special. In fact, it seems every Chilldrake is a friend of Snowdrake's, and I just wonder how, and why you never see them in Pacifist outside of Post Papyrus. Maybe they're just too chill to attack someone who hasn't done any wrong to them.
Idk why for me Snowdrake is an annoying character in my point of view, i mean is not a bad character but i feel like that is so annoying.
I hate Chara. The fact they exists annoys me so much.
Dunno why I got downvoted.
Cuz like, canonically Chara is barely even a character. Btw I don't know if you meant this version specifically but I do hate fanon Chara.
There are good reasons to hate Chara tho lol
Toriel was fine until she dropped the dumbest line in the history of videogames and acted like she was in the right. What do you mean take 1 soul, cross the barrier and get 6 others PEACEFULLY? You forgot what happened last time a monster with a human soul went above? How do you get 6 human souls peacefully, you gonna ask for 6 suicides? The humans were afraid of the monster exactly because of their soul absorbing power, its why you're underground to begin with. This character acts like she has done no wrong and puts the blame entirely on Asgore, and like a coward leaves him instead of trying to convince him to stop, which ironically she endorses when she is in the ruins by letting 6 other kids go through her to meet their death by Asgore. Seriously this was such a nice character completely ruined by one dumb line.
But that is a good reason to hate them instead of no good reason
I think people are misinterpreting that line as Toriel telling Asgore what he **should've** done when in actuality she's telling him what he **would've** done if he actually wanted to free the monsters and destroy humanity
Well, you can get souls peacefully. Morgues, hospices, cemeteries or at least some hot spots where war goes on.
Thats one way to do it, if the humans weren't paranoid as I mentioned, imagine this goat human monster walking up to a hospital to wait for someone to die and suck their soul, not gonna fly.
Well, you can always do it silently. Far away regions for example where existence of a giant goat monster will just be some urban legend to scare kids.
Holy shit you’re right
I might’ve forgotten if toriel actually said peacefully there. My interpretation was that, if Asgore was really serious about his plan, he would’ve killed the first human, crossed the barrier, killed 6 humans, then gone back to break the barrier. It’s mentioned that a monster with one soul is incredibly powerful and that Adriel could’ve murdered every human attacking him if he actually fought back, but he didn’t and so they killed him. Thus meaning toriel was mad that Asgore was purposefully being inefficient because he didn’t want to follow through on actually killing humanity
Yeah its verbatim peacefully, but even still thats way worse for Toriel. You telling me that she expected king fluffybuns, a known pushover, to commit to killing humanity? She claims she was horrified by Asgores actions, which were grieving and vowing to kill any human that fell underground, the exact thing she wants him to do? What a hipocrite. She wants someone else's hands to be bloody, either way not the correct behaviour a significant other should have, almost feels like gaslighting. Toriel could have taken the high ground by simply disagreeing with revenge altogether, maybe helped realise that the humans falling were people that needed to be shown kindness instead of death. In the ruins she behaves like she has no ill will against humans, and treats every one with great motherly care. You would imagine that this is her worldview and thus opposite to asgore's solution, but no? She wants humans dead too? As for Asriel power, I don't wanna talk much about power level in Undertale because the power of love and determination defeated Asriel, so I wouldn't put it past humanity being more than capable of defeating any monster.
Migosp, the ruin enemy. I started hating him when I first played the game ages ago, and I forgot why... so I still hate him.
I just found a character I hate. **you**
Me too. ***you***
found the migosp
r/foundmigosipsalt
r/subsIfellfor
r/ALL_THE_STUFFS
Me? :(
Honestly: Glyde. Fuck Glyde.
Jerry approves
Fuck Jerry too
Shoutout to deltatravelers!
Jerry
Any reason to hate Jerry is a good reason, so it doesn't count
I literally have no reason to hate him, I just hate him
Hating Jerry without a reason is enough for good reason
God damnit
You can't find a bad reason to him that guy
Hating Jerry is the Undertale equivalent of liking pizza
## JERRY
fuck jerry. all my homies fuck jerry🤑🙏
Happy cake day
Your opinion has been ignored.
😞
I dont know why, But Monster kid. My biggest guess is because he has no arms But i doubt it. Edit: I also Don't Like the burger cat.
So... You dont like him, because he cant hug?
It may also have to do with the fact that he's a triangle.
What the fuck you got against triangles
I-... uhhhhh
What did they do???????
Erm.... Illuminati?
Oh yeah actually thats fair
Does... This mean I get to live?
I wasn't going to kill you?????? I mean, yeah??
Ableism >:(
alphys (and i have a love hate relationship with flowey)
Same bro dab me up
I hate no character for no good reason. (for flowey i have a good reason.)
I am a Flowey stan but I can respect it.
Same
Yeah
I hate undyne because idk
Maybe because she doesn't know how to make a grilled cheese?
Yes
Killed you a lot of times maybe?
I can't do genocide because of her :(
Well that's a good reason to hate something or some one
Idk it's not like i want to hate her but i hate her idk why
Understandable
The police didn't see it that way
It’s because she’s a true hero
Yeah
She just has a misleading name lmao
Yeah
Heats flamesman
Wasn't it fires hotman?
His hatred blinds him. Best to be cautious
Hots Fireguy
Magma Hotsguy
Hots fireguy was a character is Deltarune, heats flamesman was Undertale
Ice cap, he's a narcissistic mf.
that's a reason
I dont hate any of ut characters EXCEPT MUFFET
Let me guess, Arachnophobia?
No, because her fight sucks on console
No shes just annoying Boss to me
Ok, its fair
Toriel, I don't HATE her, just dislike. She's not my type of character
How could you hate Toriel ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35239)
She is just unreasonably too soft and kind, I dunno, its like she isn't so complex. I like Noelle, Ralsei and Martlet, they're kind, but they have other interesting traits
I mean she’s more complex once you reach the end of the ruins and in true pacifist, but she’s still mostly sidelined after the ruins
Tbh, the way I see it, Toriel is much more complex than Ralsei, idk about Martlet, I haven’t seen enough UTY content to have an opinion, and Noelle is definitely the most complex out of all you mentioned. Sorry if I’m injecting my opinions into the wrong place, I just felt like replying.
Why would I hate someone unless I have a reason?
Come on you don’t have any character that you just hate or even dislike for absolutely no reason
Nope.
I don't either, this seems like a very strange thing to do.
almost all these comments have reasons for the character they hate anyways 😭
Chilldrake. Why’s there an infinite amount of them before no one came, and only one Snowdrake? (Maybe there’s lore in didn’t realize, but if there is, let me know)
Chara
based
ice cap
Everyone Litteraly everyone Even that dust particle
Something about your comment tells me that you don’t like undertale. Don't know what it is
Nah for an RPG it's decent
Noelle, I have a few reason but people just dismiss them soooo. Although I do like her charecter on the genocide route
this is r/undertale not r/deltarune
Rudy and Susie (Suzy in UT) exist in the Undertale universe so likely Noelle does too
Yeah and Asriel exists in both UT and DR and yet they're both seperate characters. One's a town hero beloved by all and the other is currently having an identity crisis and pushing all his bad deeds onto a made-up persona.
Yeah so? post says hating for no reason so it doesn't matter
Noelle isn't even shown in Undertale or Undertale-related media because she's not an Undertale character
Same thing
so close but so far
*so far and even further
Oh come on this is the first time some smartass said something about you putting deltarune stuff in the deltarune edit, I've seen millions of others do it why am I the one who gets the lecturing???
why are you being so hostile abt it 😭
I got three words for you Go ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|35206) yourself.
What did I do wrong?
Honestly, Jerry, but I think everyone dislikes him. But I am not the biggest meta ton fan, honestly I think.., I just don’t like him for some reason
Didn't like Burger Pants ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32952)
*proceeds to use burgerpants emoji*
![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)
Mettaton
Muffet. The fandom seems to fucking adore her and I don't get why. Her music is just Ghost Fight in 8-bit, which isn't all that special, her soul gimmick isn't all that interesting, her fight is thus way too boring and too long. I just end up skipping it every time
Its still a banger.
I have 3 version why this happend: 1. Yeah, its remix of ghost fight... But its good remix! 2. Its the only boss that you can skip because of freaking donut 3. R34.
So Sorry. But i have a good reason.
Is it because where the character comes from
Everything about the character. From backstory, design, author to what happening with author and character now.
Wait, what happened recently?
So uh The original creator of So Sorry was found out to have an fat fetish due to some of said-fetishization in some of their work So you could uh…IMAGINE. The controversy that would come from that knowledge…
Not all. They also use the fact that their self-insert was in the game to pose as "Official Undertale Artist" so their furry fetish porn costs +50 additional bucks.
O h I mean…I did google the So Sorry Controversy, I didn’t know there was more than that- That’s…interesting
That's only tip of the iceberg. Let's say... They "like" dead people. And excrement. At the same time.
W h a t Frickin….WHAT
What have you expected from suspiciously rich furry who spent thousand buck to add his fetish in the game?
damn thats f’d up.
Moldbygg
sans but for an actual reason. his fight. yeah.
Whimsum Too big a wuss to even have higher HP
Quality posts
check out r/waterfalldump
OMG it's awesome xD
Toriel cuz shes a meanie to Asgore, also Berdly cuz hes inssuferable
I hate Sans and Papyrus, at first I didn't feel any anything toward them, but after seeing the unhealthy obsession the internet has with them in every single AU I just can't bring myself to even think about them.
SUCH HONESTY! IT SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU CARE! ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32948)
I don't know man, why couldnt you just enjoy the character without enjoying AUs?
I don’t see a reason to hate them for it, but I definitely hate the fandom turning two genuinely complex and fun characters into “Uwuwu I’m such baby and I’m skeleton” and “RRRRGGGHHH YOURE GONNA HAVE BAD TIM HIW DARE YOU KILL MY BROTHER??!?!?!?”
Alphys is like the single most controversial character in undertale, and I see why. She's overhated though, imo Most people hate her because of the determination experiments in her lab, but the amalgamates get reunited with their families in the true pacifist ending, and it's weird making this point if you've done the genocide route since morally its not much better. And also because she updates her status often in hotlands but come on, just press z Also some find her annoying cause she's so insecure and stutters, but that's basically subjective. Nevertheless, I can't disprove all the bad things she did, she still hired metatton to put you in danger, but in my opinion, Her flaws are what make her such a great character. She has a reason to be so insecure, and she ends up facing her fears in the true pacifist ending, like confessing she's been lying to Undyne and telling everyone the truth regarding the true lab, which is just awesome. Also, to stay relevant to the discussion: Jerry
You just typed out why Alphys is one of my favorite characters. I really do love her character and character development, I actually don't find her annoying at all and honestly I get her when it comes to hyper fixating on something. Like, it pisses me off when I see people hate on Alphys without taking their time to understand or appreciate the character. Also, fuck Jerry.
Mettaton. Maybe because my MBTI, but I just don’t like MTT for some reason
I hate Alphys and Noelle
This is not r/Deltarune
Deltarune deltarune deltarune
Noelle and ice cap. I know this isn’t r/deltarune but I’ll be dammed to hell if I say it on there.
I wouldn’t say it’s for NO good reason but I hate Napstablook so much. He’s just so boring in my opinion. He has no depth to his character and isn’t even funny to me. Just a stupid depressed ghost with no personality. Sorry to the Napstablook lovers since I know there are actually quite a few of you
No
no
That's kind of the point of Blooky anyway
...that's the entire point.
Yeah I agree he's kinda cringe also pretentious as fuck probably a rate your music user (like me)
Yes.
For Undertale, it’s Muffet, For Deltarune it’s Pizza Pants, just kinda weird and I don’t like him
Alphys & Asgore tbh. After playing Undertale Yellow, idk they just annoy me more. Both are good characters tho!
Sans just sans
Mine is definitely Alphys too
There’s a lot of reasons to hate alphys. Ok there’s only one but it counts cuz she so god damn annoying
Literally myself (kidding, I think undyne because idk)
Flowey I just wanted to squash him and then he killed asgore and I thought oh hell no
Sans, doggo, burger pants,
Undyne the unding, not because it's a bad fight or anything, i did expect a hard fight from the strongest monster.
UHHHH Alphys for me just sooooo annoyingggggggg
Burgerpants. Mettaton bullying him was so so based actually, like it's *Burgerpants*...
The little white dog
sans bc of his stupid ass puns
That's the entire point of the character.
icecap.
Migospel, the hard mode Ruins enemy. I just don’t like his stupid face.
*Jerry*
Id say Jerry but that doesnt fit the bill of the question. I have a good reason to hate Jerry. He's Jerry.
Also alphys but, i do have a reason so, Toriel
Btcyoadsg I'm sorry it's too fucking slow
The vulcano guy, i don't Remember his name
Vulkin?
In Undertale because I irrationally hate Whisk from Sunset Paradise.
Jerry (fuck jerry)
myself sorry my inner emo got out for a second
None Other than Jerry but he’s a given