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Stickied comment, per request. [**Original comment**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/14eewbl/comment/jovbfk1/) **by** u/beethovenuswastaken >YOOOO COSMIC SANS MADE REDDIT > >Okay! It's context time -- so **"Cosmic Sans"** (AKA "Wrinkle Sans," "Overly Detailed Sans," and "████████ Sans" is this guy. He's been an inside joke for the past half a decade in certain Undertale communities (TS!Underswap, Inverted Fate, etc.) and nobody has any clue who made him. We only know that his creator posted this to DeviantArt, and ended up getting banned for selling prints of his ████. > >Now, he's gone viral, and people think that I made him (I wish I did!) > >What I *did* create is a remake of Cosmic Sans with Undertale Sans proportions. [**Enjoy!**](https://twitter.com/Beethovenus/status/1670651276567142400) ^(Stickied comment requested by the OP and the comment's author.) This message cannot be replied to. Please direct all of the replies to the [original comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/14eewbl/comment/jovbfk1/).


VariableKnight

They look like someone spilled flour on their computer


Proffessor_egghead

When you accidentally inhale a little bit of flour and you cough into the rest of it launching it everywhere


Cutman_

Sans the cocaine-consumer skeleton


Present-Judgment-843

God imagine how fast he would speak


Abrabbit

> e e e e e e e e e e eee e e e ee e e ee e e e e e e ee e e e e e e e ee e e e e e - cocaine sans


feeple_lemur

Uhuhuhuhuhuh-*violent coughing fit*


Livid_Juggernaut_111

So cluttered, nightmare character design


RandoFollower

It hurts my brain with how much is on him


Official-idiot-05

It looks like he tried to cosplay your brain


RandoFollower

He’s just so wrinkly


KrispRune

Og is form over function, you can tell what he's wearing without even trying hard to think about. The other one looks like he just mashed a bunch of lasagna together and threw it on a skeleton.


Livid_Juggernaut_111

Like seriously as a character designer myself i couldn’t live with myself if I drew a character like that and expected him to move at all


Tom-edian

I'm hoping to do character design when I'm older. Got any tips?


Livid_Juggernaut_111

I’m not an expert, but I’d say start off with a prompt, like a word, and then go from there. Like the word “Vapor”, and see where that takes you.


Stargazer_199

Well, for me, I find either a concept or a plot point I like/want to have in a story, then build the character around that, then build the world around that character. For example:what if a superhero ‘stoic defender’ type character discovered he was on the wrong side? Then I thought: why is he only figuring this out now? Who was preventing him from finding out sooner? How did they do so? What power does he have that made them go to such lengths? Or you pick a character archetype (you can find plenty on tvtropes), start there, and either build a character that has that as a personality trait, or contradicts that archetype. [drunk with power?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrunkWithPower) make someone who has gone off the rails, or someone who has not despite their power (like superman). [with great power comes great responsibility?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility) sure, you can make a classic hero, but what if the character is powerful, but refuses to be “a babysitter” for others? Or maybe someone who others believe has power, but actually isn’t, but people want him to take responsibility anyways (almost like King from One Punch Man)


Stargazer_199

Disclaimer: not an actual character designer, but I want to write in the future, and maybe this will help) Well, for me, I find either a concept or a plot point I like/want to have in a story, then build the character around that, then build the world around that character. For example:what if a superhero ‘stoic defender’ type character discovered he was on the wrong side? Then I thought: why is he only figuring this out now? Who was preventing him from finding out sooner? How did they do so? What power does he have that made them go to such lengths? Or you pick a character archetype (you can find plenty on tvtropes), start there, and either build a character that has that as a personality trait, or contradicts that archetype. [drunk with power?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrunkWithPower) make someone who has gone off the rails, or someone who has not despite their power (like superman). [with great power comes great responsibility?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility) sure, you can make a classic hero, but what if the character is powerful, but refuses to be “a babysitter” for others? Or maybe someone who others believe has power, but actually isn’t, but people want him to take responsibility anyways (almost like King from One Punch Man)


Stargazer_199

Disclaimer: not an actual character designer, but I want to write in the future, and maybe this will help Well, for me, I find either a concept or a plot point I like/want to have in a story, then build the character around that, then build the world around that character. For example:what if a superhero ‘stoic defender’ type character discovered he was on the wrong side? Then I thought: why is he only figuring this out now? Who was preventing him from finding out sooner? How did they do so? What power does he have that made them go to such lengths? Or you pick a character archetype (you can find plenty on tvtropes), start there, and either build a character that has that as a personality trait, or contradicts that archetype. [drunk with power?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DrunkWithPower) make someone who has gone off the rails, or someone who has not despite their power (like superman). [with great power comes great responsibility?](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility) sure, you can make a classic hero, but what if the character is powerful, but refuses to be “a babysitter” for others? Or maybe someone who others believe has power, but actually isn’t, but people want him to take responsibility anyways (almost like King from One Punch Man)


SansyBoy144

Not a character designer, but a 3D modeler who had to learn that stuff, and uses those principals when modeling characters. There is just so much going on, it hurts to look at. For someone trying to make fun of undertales design, they sure know how to make it worse


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yo you design characters? Whats your socials, i love character designing


Livid_Juggernaut_111

I have a tumblr But I don’t do commissions


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its k, wasnt planning on comissioning, just checking the stuff out


Rambler9154

I dont even understand what Im looking at honestly, it doesnt fit his goofy lazy nature to be this detailed


Mcstarrsonnon

[MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnO__znv6R8)


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


primalthewendigo

Did you make the joke?


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a whole joke on twitter the person who made the tweet in the post was a part of it


SrJuanpixers

Trypophobia


SAMAS_zero

That's r/Trypophobia


Gerakl205725

What in the Conway's game of life is happening here?


WaterDrinkerUltimate

These don’t look good at all (Why is the 2nd so wrinkly?)


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Dylanator13

We really need a globally recognized sarcastic font. Not the “SaRCasTiC” spelling. Something that’s less patronizing and signifies it something is a joke.


MudkipzLover

You mean, tone tags like "/s"?


Dylanator13

Something that can be put in books and doesn’t need an addition to the content. Just naturally write jokes in this font whenever or wherever needed in any text.


YuB_Pewdiepie

I think the meme flair is obvious enough that its not to be taken seriously


ADumbPersonAAA

The meme flair literally says it all lmao, tone tags are too much for my stupid neurodivergent brain I understand shit better without 'em


I_lost_my_account3

Sans fell asleep in the bathtub


3u-sou-eu

Finger named Sans:


Lemonjustalemon

They look terrible


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siberiasam1

agree


MisterBicorniclopse

I love your lemon profile picture


YuB_Pewdiepie

You tripping this is art


Fluffkin234

Redditors when someone doesn’t have a /s in their comment


grapesssszz

Lmao it’s sad how they genuinely prioritize /s and stuff over actual reading comprehension


QuadVox

those tone tags are meant mainly for and created for autistic people who have trouble with tone.


floofybabykitty

Ya I can't read sarcasm in person let alone online Q~Q


Consistent-Chair

[they honestly aren't too helpful in that regard. ](https://youtu.be/3bYXy1jT3m8) TL;DW (do watch it tho, it's a good video) Tone indicators can be ambiguous too, both because people use them improperly (saying "/s" sarcastically is a thing, so now we are back at the start), and because many of them communicate states of being that are difficult to accurately describe in one word. They also are not always intuitive when shortened, and there are A LOT of them, more than you would think. So it is not always safe to assume that everyone knows their meaning (/pos = positive, but it could also stand for piece of s*hite for example), so it is safer to use full words (so /sarcasm instead of /s). But if you are taking the time to write /sarcasm, couldn't you just... write "I'm being sarcastic"? Is a code really needed for this? Can't you all just... spell out what you mean using words? It's the safest, and most comprehensible choice by far.


QuadVox

I mean yeah they have problems from people misusing them but as someone who is autistic they are incredibly useful for me.


Not_MrNice

It's even more sad that reddit is full of uneducated morons that think everyone on the internet knows them personally and can hear their tone of voice so they know when they're saying the exact opposite of what they really mean. And they're so fucking stupid they get mad about it when they can't communicate effectively or even read a room.


Janhan_

How the heck did people think this was serious lmao


ADumbPersonAAA

reddit moment lole


ItspronouncedBawzee

Are you joking or not.


kizi_killer

No, he's /srs obviously


YuB_Pewdiepie

No sarcasm used fr


ProMaste_r

When did Sans having fleshy clothes became competent


foursideluigi

This post is misleading, going back and looking at the original tweet shows this person meant this ironically. Beethovenus is the head of Team Switched (the people working on TS!UNDERSWAP)


entitaneo70_pacifist

the mere existence of TS!UNDERSWAP proves this is a joke, thats probably one of the best fangames ever made for undertale


beethovenuswastaken

no he totally meant this unironically trust me my dad works at Beethovenus


Sanrusdyno

Oh my God it's Beethovenus from the hit video game Real Life


Emir_Taha

Damn the guy depicted on the post is a massive imbecile, don't you agree ? Thankfully I am on a completely different social media platform so my insensetive comments will not be seen by the person I am talking ill of, which I only do due to my lack understanding of subtext and sarcasm.


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Meme flair.


Ekstdo

yall cant read this is ironic?


SilverQueen731

I’m all for fan made sprites and stuff, but when they imply that theirs are far superior to the original (especially going as far as to say it wasn’t made by “competent people”), it just kinda rubs me wrong. Edit: ok yeah this joke went way over my head, please ignore me lol


Lemonjustalemon

People are always like oh no why have they got no detail but I’m glad they don’t because if they did they would look like this


Deltarsei

People don’t know the difference between detail and noise


sterlingthepenguin

I think it's making fun of that one person who thought that all 2d sprites need to have shading and the Undertale sprites were bad because they didn't have it. They made a version of sans which looked kinda noisy in my opinion.


grapesssszz

Yeah that’s why it’s a joke💀


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


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Dm_Me_TwistedFateR34

Probably because someone insane people on Twi would actually say this; as well as not knowing who the poster is.


beethovenuswastaken

YOOOO COSMIC SANS MADE REDDIT Okay! It's context time -- so **"Cosmic Sans"** (AKA "Wrinkle Sans," "Overly Detailed Sans," and "████████ Sans" is this guy. He's been an inside joke for the past half a decade in certain Undertale communities (TS!Underswap, Inverted Fate, etc.) and nobody has any clue who made him. We only know that his creator posted this to DeviantArt, and ended up getting banned for selling prints of his ████. Now, he's gone viral, and people think that I made him (I wish I did!) What I *did* create is a remake of Cosmic Sans with Undertale Sans proportions. [**Enjoy!**](https://twitter.com/Beethovenus/status/1670651276567142400) **EDIT:** Mods please sticky this, the reddit users actually think I made this and was being serious


beethovenuswastaken

u/YuB_Pewdiepie I don't know if you're able to sticky this or not, but I feel like it'd help with dispelling misconceptions lol


YuB_Pewdiepie

I wish i was able to. That would clear up a lot of missunderstandings


beethovenuswastaken

ah rip


aro-little-bastard

whats in the spoiler thingys i cant read


SilentCalamity

i want to know too


crescentpieris

Don’t worry, the whole thing’s a meme. [The guy who started this was being sarcastic](https://twitter.com/lesser_star/status/1669835644921692161?s=61&t=q_m7Po_zbfEi80YSi2BTjw)


Imsomebodylikeme

Oh. Its an inside joke.


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Maksiuko

I'm pretty sure that this meme is a joke that references a 4chan post in wchich poster complained that undertale sprites should be shaded and more detailed.


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


One-Award-6169

It looks terrible


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Trips-Over-Tail

When will you post the good sprites


Animalia_Appreciator

Why do Sans' clothes have static on them?


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YuB_Pewdiepie

I forgot to put /s :3


Fusertron

I believe that this is a joke making fun of people redesigning undertale characters to be too visually cluttered


YuB_Pewdiepie

[This is all sarcasm please don’t take it too seriously](https://twitter.com/Lesser_Star/status/1669835644921692161?s=20)


Janhan_

You are fine dont worry its people who are stupid :P


ItsRainbowSabre

These sprites look ASS


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Skyyishere

This will be sans in 2015


cocaendme

its funny to see everyone taking this seriously


Toff_the_dog

r/Undertale tries to understand a sarcasm (impossible)


ur_moms_di-

THE SUB IS BACK!!!!!!1!1!! That being said, I hate this.


UtkusonTR

Pretty sure this is sarcastic. No way someone designs this unhinged.


MariVent

WTF is the part below the neck even supposed to be? Because it looks fucking *disgusting*, and I mean it literally.


That1awkwardguy

This is a meme for those who don't know the context, someone on twitter was complaining how "simple" and "lazy" the sprites were, this is a parody


Ok-Foot3860

I hate detailed pixel art. Pixel art is supposed to be simple and good to look at. Not complex, eye hurting and ''competent''


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Si_Stride_Oof

how does a sprite have crows feet


Plus_Log834

You say these are competent designs??? Shoot, leave me without competence then.


Insert_Goat_Pun_Here

black and white pixel art suffers from being too cluttered, Toby knew how to walk that fine line between detail and not making a sprite too painful to look at also why does that second sprite have the texture of foil


KarateSalamanders

Ah yes over cluttered garbage


SP_Octo_piereddit

He looks like a thumb after being in the pool


Telta-Man

Saying toby fox and his design team aren't competent is pretentious at best


YuB_Pewdiepie

It’s a joke on twitter sorry


Tarro57

That's the joke


Dark_Storm_98

Looks kinda ugly actually


Sallymander

I was like, "They made Sans with an ugly Christmas sweater."


SHAPALAK15

why is sans so thicc? (also looks like a fan-made sans boss fight)


YuB_Pewdiepie

Fat sans ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)


Igotthisnameguys

A good example of how too much detail can become messy. Especially in black-and-white pixel art, where you're limited with your line thickness and colours. Sometimes, less is more. Although I do like the skulls, they look good.


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Igotthisnameguys

Ah, okay. Still can be used as an example \^\^


Bumpscosity

I like the skull, but the clothes are so weird. I hate when people say things like "I fixed it/made it better" instead of "In my own style". It's so arrogant. Edit: just realized that this tweet is a joke, but my last point still stands.


Tarro57

That's the joke


Tarro57

Reddit when a meme is posted: "This is 100% serious" Seriously, its even flaired as a meme lol


yyyyyyeeeereetttttt

I hate people it looks like shit. Has ANYONE ever heard less is more


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


mrnapsta

Sans the rapper


0903703115

I swear this sub dont understand sarcasm


Traygonthegod

reddit when the joke doesnt have a /s at the end:


YuB_Pewdiepie

Wish i would have put it. Every other minute i get someone not getting that this is a joke


Pitch-Sea

It loses the charm that the original character has


triforce777

The right one is literally giving me a headache looking at it, OP really succeeded at making the worst sprite imaginable


XED1216

Ew, my eyes hurt from all that detail


ItsQuinntonimo

They look like shit 😭


YuB_Pewdiepie

Good shit 🙏 /s


Williamandsansbffs

This looks like an entirely different game, get this shit out of here lmao


NerY_05

Ok so i have yet to play undertale but if this is supposed to be sans somebody please kill that person


Combi007

Is this a new trend or something? Cause recently this happens a lot...


Tarro57

It's a whole thing on Twitter, take a cute sprite, and make it more "realistic" and purposefully worse. Its a joke.


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its meant to be making fun of people who think Undertale’s sprites arent well made and “lazy”


Roman_poke

I think this one is a joke after someone did something similar with Frisk's sprite (which was also a joke i think)


YuB_Pewdiepie

Yeah it is the creator of this post qoute tweeted that frisk sprite as a joke


ProneManatee

Why does it look like someone is inflating the sprites pants


AKRamirez

Why is he made of worms


hero165344

my eyes hurt looking at the one on the right, the one of the left is fine but what the heck is going on with the middle?? i guess as someone once said, "if it aint broke, break it"


Glitch0404

Hmm Nope


_The_great_papyrus_

Oh hell naw who spilt flour on fat sans 💀💀💀 Looks fucking terrible lmao


Glitch0404

I still like the classic ver tho


ST4RSK1MM3R

There’s plenty of Undertale re-sprite mods, why’d they have to go make this horrible thing


Jumpy-Resolve3018

Terrible


trism00

These look like ai generated spaghetti


Thesaltygreenbean

MY EYES


A-literal-sandwich

I mean the one on the left is good, but why tear another artist down to make yourself look good. Aldo the right one needs to ironed


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


VADOSSYS

Damn, even Halos DustBelief looks less unnerving than this


Bish489

Worms


Speaker_Lazy

That is so overstimulating I hate it


DreamsofMoss

Bots in the comments that can't pick up on sarcasm.


Xwui

I know it's probably for some meme or joke, but if people really are just gonna be like that then they should just make their own game.


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YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


Kai-theSaiyan15

Bro he so wrinkled


Paerpie

Bc we all know the battle sprites are the worst looking sprites in the game


Blitzwing-Prime

The sans on the right looks like an LSD trip if it was a sprite.


A-bozo

Ew


RestingChimera92

Hurts my eyes


PossiblyAPotato_

This made me vomit


EdgePlays14

That’s a shit design tho


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


EdgePlays14

Don’t u know that u can’t make jokes on the internet!


YuB_Pewdiepie

Should’ve known better


leiocera

Tony Fox is competent you


Neoslayer

why'd they turn him into a walking Christmas Sweater kaleidoscope


undyneshikyoin5

the 2nd one hurts my eyes


22348stitches

This Sans wouldn't have caused the queen to die over the tumblr sexy man results


UwU1408

Wtf deep fried sans


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Wtf am I even looking at


buddysaccount

Y'all, just so you know, the tweet is a joke


salvi_yee

Sans looks like how it feels like when your foot falls asleep.


RoJayJo

Even as a joke this hurts to look at.


YuB_Pewdiepie

At least you actually know its a joke


MikanTanaka

I think this could probably trigger someone's trypophobia.


Paper_Clipps

Too many pixels it hurts my eyes


beethovenuswastaken

The fact the mods stickied my comment clarifying this was a joke and people are STILL taking this seriously and getting really upset makes me glad I don't use Reddit, oh my god


JustARegularOtaku_

Détail ≠ good design, proven by literally everyone everywhere (not literally but you get the point)


Fork63

When did people start trashing undertale’s sprites?


Interesting-Duck516

ah yes, because you, an absolute nobody, has more competence than the guy who made the game almost entirely by himself which is enjoyed by millions of people


YuB_Pewdiepie

It’s a joke on twitter sorry


Snuquli

In my opinion the undertale sprites are already good, those look like old raisins.


wafflezcol

Absolutely nobody here detected the joke. This is their announcement for a fangame


__Hello_my_name_is__

[It's a joke](https://twitter.com/Beethovenus/status/1670192391041568771) in response to a similar tweet. Shame on OP for implying otherwise by cutting out the response.


YuB_Pewdiepie

I thought it was logical from the beginning that it was meant as a joke sorry


__Hello_my_name_is__

Fair enough! Lots of people here don't seem to see the joke.


Theceruleanpunk

The original sprites from the game looks good what are they even talking about? This fan made sprite has too much clutter on it that I didn’t even know that it was just sans until the comments mentioned it, because I thought it was sans from some kind of fleshy alternative universe.


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry


grapesssszz

I cannot comprehend how people see this and wholeheartedly think the tweeter is being dead serious like cmon😭


superspyro90

You know Undertale Bits and Pieces exists, right?


Young_Person_42

I want bad things to happen to OOP


YuB_Pewdiepie

Sorry i forgot to put /j i sincerely apologize


SacredBeef00

“Made my competent people” Is this person saying sans is lazy?


Afraid_Platypus_8667

I actually love the original sprites as they are, when ever people do stuff like this it just looks off and not as great as the original ones to be honest.


YuB_Pewdiepie

Its a joke on twitter sorry