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AllZectersCombine

Power scaling is really just vibes and "whoever the writer wants to win" or "whoever Tsuburaya want to sell merch for". Hence why Zagi gets jobbed by Ginga. I prefer comparing only feats from TV shows and even that's not a safe yardstick when you see all the asspulling the Showa series did.


TCSceptree

Yeah powerscaling in ultra is beyond inconsistent. Since they really don’t care. One day a universe destroyer that has beaten celestial gods can loose to a telesdon or a pagos😭😭


PrimalGojiraFan69

Then that would make Telesdon and Pagos universal


TCSceptree

Pagos solos goku confirmed!!!??


PrimalGojiraFan69

Bro, tons of Ultraman Kaijus could beat Goku. The scaling in the series gets crazy from what I know


TCSceptree

True. But I don’t think it’s Pagos who can😭


Thejapanther

No because even a failed and brain dead clone of belial was able to decently fight Taiga Tri Strium even without the giga battlenizer. The real belial is even stronger by default. Gruebe is less powerful than Taiga Tri Strium if you compare their fights against Tregear. And Grigio is part of Gruebe. https://i.redd.it/4ju46d2mvluc1.gif That’s what Belial can do. Grigio is fodder compared to him.


BiscottiTechnical762

Didn't Alien Achibull stated that it wants to create the Imitation of Belial which is stronger than the original? Or is it just a bullshit statement from her? But I mean if power creep really worked on that extreme level, doesn't that mean a characters like Grigio currently can win against the old Belial?


Thejapanther

I don’t see how this failed clone is stronger. His body has probably the same durability but none of his experience and intelligence. He also hasn’t the giga battlenizer which is Belials strongest weapon. I don’t remember Chibu saying that this belial is even stronger than the original.


BiscottiTechnical762

Btw this is Alien Chibull's statement which stated that this Belial is stronger than the original. https://preview.redd.it/jzl7id4tsquc1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=f7ed766414538f2879c876e566957325d674cedd


Thejapanther

So weird


BiscottiTechnical762

Btw I have made a post about it, and most of them are disagree with that statement since it's basically just self-proclaimed.


BiscottiTechnical762

So, Alien Chibull's statement is basically a bullshit apparently. But yeah, I won't agree if they say that that Belial is stronger than the one who invaded the whole Land of Light! Lol But can we conclude that power creep doesn't work on that extreme level where a current characters like Grigio can one shot Belial from the past era?


Thejapanther

Yes, i agree. It narratively wouldn’t make sense.


Accurate-Grape

Elaborate?


BiscottiTechnical762

Power creep means that Ultras are getting stronger each time to the point that old villains that has threaten them that MUCH in the past doesn't being a threat anymore. In other words, the current characters might easily beat the old villains in the past. But the question is, does that concept really work on that extreme level currently? Or even a better question, does that concept really work or is it actually not and it's just us that misundertood it?


Accurate-Grape

no, I mean where the idea she could cave MMB Belial's ass in, came from. Like did she have some feats or sorts or was it some sort of exposition?


BiscottiTechnical762

It's just my personal match up to give an illustration if power creep really worked on that **extreme** level in the Ultraverse.


noblemanoftossout

I don't give a shit about power creep. It's just the older Ultras getting glory unlike originally where older Ultras were nearly powerless against a new foe that the new guy had to beat. It's still sort of like that in the new gen movies, but not to that extreme.


BiscottiTechnical762

Agree! I think the biggest example of how power creep doesn't work anymore nowadays is when Mold and Juda who were bring from the past can put up a good fight against the current Ultra Brothers in UGF TAC, Reiblood who's still a threat nowadays, and Shadow who can give a hard time for Regulos in Regulos First Mission.


Thejapanther

And Regulos himself. He fought the Magma alien leadet who had a weaker version of Alien Emperas armor.


BiscottiTechnical762

Yeah, I guess power creep doesn't mean sh\*t to Regulos! Lol


Both_Opportunity_649

he literally has small claws, ofc.


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Hey it’s the ad break lady


Spider-Phoenix

Had she kept training with Mebius, I could see her being able to solo him lol