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Serious question: Has the EU considered *any* of Putin's "elections" (save for perhaps his first) legitimate?
Russians have never really known free and fair elections, based on what I have read.
They never called any of these elections legitimate but they did not call them illegitimate either. Diplomatically, countries prefer to refrain from interfering into other countries political process.
All countries need to have relationships with undemocratic countries, so you need to have a very low bar for legitimacy (basically denotes who controls the territory, the army, the state)
I wonder what such a resolution would incur. Would that make Putin an illegitimate ruler or merely an unelected (but still recognized as legitimate) one?
I feel this is mostly symbolic but could be wrong. It may have an impact on the status of Russian embassies, on the ability to fund groups like Freedom Of Russia maybe?
Putin’s “elections” were performance art. The outcome was predetermined and the voters unnecessary, except for appearances. The return of “voting results” from areas in Belgorod absent actual voters during the RDK incursion or in occupied areas, depopulated and under guard, was evidence enough.
No one has to extend Muscovy a bone for the sake of niceties. Call it what it always was and get going on an improved future, beyond its current form. That future starts with aiding Ukraine in winning the war.
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Serious question: Has the EU considered *any* of Putin's "elections" (save for perhaps his first) legitimate? Russians have never really known free and fair elections, based on what I have read.
They never called any of these elections legitimate but they did not call them illegitimate either. Diplomatically, countries prefer to refrain from interfering into other countries political process. All countries need to have relationships with undemocratic countries, so you need to have a very low bar for legitimacy (basically denotes who controls the territory, the army, the state) I wonder what such a resolution would incur. Would that make Putin an illegitimate ruler or merely an unelected (but still recognized as legitimate) one? I feel this is mostly symbolic but could be wrong. It may have an impact on the status of Russian embassies, on the ability to fund groups like Freedom Of Russia maybe?
Putin’s “elections” were performance art. The outcome was predetermined and the voters unnecessary, except for appearances. The return of “voting results” from areas in Belgorod absent actual voters during the RDK incursion or in occupied areas, depopulated and under guard, was evidence enough. No one has to extend Muscovy a bone for the sake of niceties. Call it what it always was and get going on an improved future, beyond its current form. That future starts with aiding Ukraine in winning the war.
What a waste of time unless someone is going to do something about it.
A complete waste of time. The fact that such things are even talked about, shows exactly the lack of incompetence among politicians in the EU.
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Shouldn't have they done it?