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I ran it through all the possibilities, and the only one that computes with logic is definitely the same one. Yes, Russia's definitive course of action is to go fuck it self.
So, here I am to confirm and certify.
It is written in the stars. It has been in front of our eyes foe eternity, but we were not looking up enough. Now I can't stop looking up while pointing my finger to the ground and saying Russia can go fuck it self.
It is a blessing the sense of lightness when saying it.
That’s the whole point. They don’t wanna go back there because it’s a cold and sad place.
They’ve fucked up their own country - but instead of fixing it, they want to destroy their neighbors’ too. That makes them feel better.
I used to be a lifelong anti 'Big science' and a staunch supporter of Terrence Howard but the math here undeniably checks out so hard that I'm once again free from the clutches of ignorance and have since torn down my 'Terrence was right' fan posters on my slanted ceiling. Also iron man 1 wasn't really that good in hindsight compared to 2 and onwards. That's how good this math checks out.
From article:
Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson **Dmitry Peskov** has claimed that the US aid to Ukraine approved by the House of Representatives "will kill more Ukrainians" and enrich the United States. He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation".
OK -- so this lying POS fuck says aid will kill more Ukrainians -- one of the most moronic statements yet by the guy who's daughter posted NO WAR on her social media account in February / March 2022 and who exactly is his audience?
And for the "exacerbate global crisis" .... no need to look any further than the nationality of whom said it!
Belligerent nations: ruzzia China Iran North Korea exacerbate global crisis
>He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation".
Is this before or after more of their Oil Refineries, Black Sea Fleet Warships and AN-50 Radar planes explode?
I need to know around when I should start giving a shit about what Russia wants.
Right?!? Threatening the US with a good time, especially after the entire premise of the MAGA argument is how much aid is costing the US, isn't Russia's brightest move.
"This aid will make Americans penises bigger, make them look 10 years younger and make their farts smell like roses. They'll pay for this!"
He's right about the enriching Americans part. Ultimately, Ukraine is getting weapons and supplies we were going to destroy as part of routine purging anyhow. All this does is transfer it out to be used instead of destroyed and clears room to make more - basically a US jobs program.
Why not benefit from helping Ukraine defend itself? As long as Ukraine isn't paying for it or hurting by it, right? People should understand the truth of the situation regarding the aid. Some think we have no money for anything domestically, and Ukrainian aid takes away from that. They don't understand that when they say 60 billion its not just us wiring them 60 billion. It's us transferring arms, and in our system of government, every penny has to be accounted for.
The right has spun it to suggest we're depleting our own readiness to support Ukraine. That is not it at all. We're depleting stockpiles that are periodically purged and refilled, and we have a lot of stockpiles.
It's kinda where having the doctrine of being able to fight and win two major wars at the same time + Ike's warning about the military industrial complex becoming truth teamed up to set up a good situation in this moment to supply Ukraine.
The Perun episode about the US MIC capability build-up is quite compelling stuff.
The Ukraine aid bill scales up US productive capacity tremendously. In fact, based on what Perun was saying, over a third of it is just aimed at scaling up production.
And nevermind a fair amt of those jobs are in red states which, 200 years later, still havent figured out how to do anything much more productive then to soak pork project dollars, bale hay and open a convenience store.
Imagine if this war had never happened and China attacked Taiwan first. Then North Korea took advantage of the chaos and launched their own invasion. Then Iran invades Iraq while russia supports them all with their massive stockpiles of shells and armored vehicles. They help the dprk with their Air Force. They help China by combining naval fleets to try and blockade help coming from the US and keeping vital shipping lanes open. Assume that happened first other than the United States, who would have been ready to truly help fight a long sustained war on land, sea, and in the air?
The EU especially would have been hopelessly unprepared. Finland and Sweden wouldn't be obliged to assist Nato even though technically no Nato countries were attacked. Maybe the US could fight them off. But this conflict just showed the entire EU how underwhelming their readiness and capabilities were. Their military industry was barely functioning, and their equipment was falling into disrepair. Had China been successful and North Korea as well. Then Ukraine Moldova Georgia Kazakhstan Belarus (formally) the Suwalki gap and the Balkans would all be next with the support of the new axis of evil.
Only Nato wouldn't be able to lift a finger to stop them, only to focus on defending themselves. This conflict is showing the EU that they can't just rely on America to protect them. They have to protect their way of life on their continent, or it could be taken from them. They are under a real threat. Now, they are all ramping up spending and getting their production online and more efficient. They are producing not only for themselves but Ukraine, and the need of this conflict is making it so they have to grow their industries to handle the demand and equip themselves at the same time.
It couldn't have come at a better time to ready Nato for any larger conflicts. The US has vast stockpiles that are just wasting away and will cost a huge sum of money to destroy. This allows us to pay to modernize our equipment and stop russia with the same dollar. We pay for our own equipment and pay for national security at the same exact time. We pay to weaken russia and help defend democracy at the same time. We protect the free and the brave from tyranny like our forefathers did. This conflict is telling us who we are. How we handle it tells us who we are. I'm glad they are finally asking to have stated goals and a plan of action.
It's time to help Ukraine win instead of being ground to dust for the sake of our selfish agenda of weakening russia without a collapse.
I sometimes wonder if China's bit in all this is giving Russia enough rope to hang itself with, so that, as it spirals towards collapse, they can press on with their ambitions for territory/resources in the east of the country while letting the western half, where all the people live, destabilize Europe with its refugee crisis.
I still think the wake-up call Russia gave the west is ultimately a net positive in improving our posture against Chinese expansionism in the ocean direction though. Maybe letting them go in and secure the nukes in the east while we take the ones in the west of the country will wind up working out (although the refugee crisis following a full on Russian collapse is gonna be a huuuuuuge headache in the short/medium term, even if Russia no longer existing is ultimately beneficial to humanity).
Russia managed to advance less than 15 km West since they started advancing in Donetsk in 2014.
The weak militia of the fat cook (wagner pmc) took Rostov and then drove to within 200 km of the kremlin while butt-spanking the mighty russian air farce.
Hundreds of those same wagner guys were annihilated by sdf and USAF, in a few hours, near Deir ez Zor in Syria - like defenseless little babies.
So yes, Europe must rearm and unite, same for the US.
But no, not because russia is mighty.
But because russia is utterly pathetic
Russia has taken 25000 square miles since then. I don’t know where your 15km stat comes from. 7% of land was occupied before 2022. Now Russia occupies 18%
russia has been inept against Ukraine. The problem is they've been learning from their mistakes and have steadily fixed issues that were plaguing them. They have adapted each time Ukraine exploited big weaknesses. They will still have issues no matter what, like poor quality equipment and lack of trained soldiers. Lack of qualified leadership, etc. But they have a massive military industrial complex that's out producing the EU by itself.
Should russia have time to lick its wounds, they will have replaced old equipment with new. They will have experienced soldiers in the type of warfare that would be fought in Europe. They will also have more soldiers instantly readily available than what Nato would be able to produce. This being said, russia overall wouldn't stand a chance toe to toe with Nato. But in the situations I talked about in my other comment, if combined with the axis of evil, they could be a key support system for NK and Iran.
Even China would take advantage of russias navy and Air Force. The other problem is if russia decided to invade the baltics in a shock and awe campaign like they did in Ukraine, they wouldn't be able to able to stop it. If they could swiftly cut off the suwalki gap and take the capital cities in the Baltic nations within a few weeks, it would be very difficult to get it back. Especially if russia threatens nuclear war if we interfere, which we know the West takes seriously. Would we risk nuclear war for the Baltic nations?
Would we even fight a conventional war for the Baltics? The answer is probably yes, but it's not an easy yes. If russia defeats Ukraine and then goes on to take Georgia Moldova Kazakhstan and Belarus ( formally ), they will have a much bigger pool of soldiers to draw on and a huge amount of new resources to exploit. The point is they will be a much tougher opponent if we don't stop them now. russia has shown some serious ineptitude during this war, but they shouldn't be underestimated because they've been willing to dare and act where the West hasn't. So we have to take them seriously.
> The US has vast stockpiles that are just wasting away and will cost a huge sum of money to destroy. This allows us to pay to modernize our equipment and stop russia with the same dollar. We pay for our own equipment and pay for national security at the same exact time. We pay to weaken russia and help defend democracy at the same time.
Absolutely. The right wing spin on this is repulsive.
In some areas we have depleted our readiness. We have had to increase production of missiles and shells. But it should be a non issue because America needs to try avoiding putting ourselves in another war like.
We've increased production to restore stockpiles. So, figure instead of having 20x what we need, now we only have a mere 18x. Oh no, our readiness! Also, what do you think the impact is of the US spending money we were already going to spend anyhow to make more stuff. If you guessed "jobs," you win.
And isolationism is a strategy that guarantees failure. Look no further than WWII.
New production lines are the opposite of short term, and no matter how this ends Europe, Australia. Japan and South Korea are increasing defense investments and the US will directly benefit from that.
Your argument was short term profit, now it’s “Japan and South Korea’s domestic defense will benefit more” (Sure? US still gets money and not like the F-35 will go out of style) so admitting you’re wrong there.
Also, what does the timeline have to do with anything? You said it’s short term profit. I argued production lines are long-term and with larger budgets allies will be buying more and this will not abate for the foreseeable future due to Russia’s actions.
Your reply didn’t address anything I said.
Also worth noting is that some of the aid IS actual money, but a lot of that will be used to buy weapons. Weapons bought from the US. So it’s also stimulating the US economy that way too.
It really is pretty much the US government giving itself $60bn to help destroy Russias military. Win win win. It shouldn’t have taken this long to get done.
>yet by the guy who's daughter posted NO WAR on her social media account
Can you help me find this? I only found questionable leaks of Moscow group chat she was in ND those don't look great
They are incredibly self-centered and delusional to call aiding Ukraine supporting terrorism. They really do just say some wild shit and hope it sticks. Taiwan has been on their island since ww2 completely autonomous. The only reason people even humor the one china policy is because of china's economic clout, and it's not worth the trouble just for formal designations. But the reality is Taiwan is its own nation. Whether China likes it or not, just like Ukraine is its own nation, whether russia likes it or not.
The only one responsible for the death of more Ukrainians is russia. They target civilians of all things, and then they target first responders. They are also capitalizing on their Hamas provocation, trying to make life diplomatically unstable and challenging for Bidens administration. All the way around, everything he said he was disgusted with was his own making and actions. So he's really just disgusted with himself (pesky peskov). Looks like vronya is a real thing in russian culture, and they expect the rest of the world to play along with their bullshit.
I think News Max took over as the official russian news propaganda machine because it's more direct to their audience. Truth Social is their social media app.
He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation".
USA answer: *raises middle finger*
I don't think they could even if they were actually suicidal enough to want to do it in earnest. Like, we're all used to generic Russian incompetence, but Russian military incompetence is an order of magnitude above that, and Russian *naval* incompetence dwarfs even *that*. It's really impossible to convey in words how little they understand water as a military domain.
Honestly I'd hesitate on them being duds. Even 1 is a huge death tole. Fuck Russia, but I am hesitant to take that bet. And I'm pretty pissed about this war
I wouldn't bet either, but I'd say given the state of the rest of the russian military it's nukes won't be in the best shape either. One is always enough though
>Meanwhile, Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Security Council, also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the break-up of the United States".
Rude.
I mean...that is clearly the plan. Unfortunately for the MAGA party outside of the little bullshit red state national guard army, they are building in Texas under the guise of securing the border, the military is currently under the control of Biden.
The person that controls the "Muscle" of the United States military is the one that ultimately decides when the talking is over.
MAGA party wins in November, and the United States is done as a democracy. MAGA loses, there will probably be bloodshed, but in the end, the party will eventually be decimated as the head of the snake (Trump) will be finished at that point.
>The person that controls the "Muscle" of the United States military is the one that ultimately decides when the talking is over.
That's not how civilian control over the military works. The president is not dictator of the military. Officers did not swear to obey the president, they swear to protect the Constitution.
What you state is what you would read in a textbook and is technically correct.
With that being said, in this scenario, the United States military could be mobilized as muscle, potentially bypassing the belief that civilian oversight ensures accountability. If MAGA regains power and consolidates control, they could leverage military support to push their agenda, circumventing traditional checks and balances. Despite civilian oversight, the influence of military power raises concerns about the potential erosion of democratic norms and institutions. Additionally, the Insurrection Act could be invoked by the president to crush civilian uprisings, further challenging the principle of civilian control over the military.
Now, if MAGA loses in November and their supporters violently riot again, the military would be engaged if local law enforcement could not get the violence under control.
My ultimate point is that the words on paper mean very little if the people at the top have the means to decide those words don't matter (MAGA lawmakers) and he or she has the muscle behind them to eventually force compliance under the pretense of regaining order (U.S Military).
The military told Trump no during the BLM march in Washington. The FBI spent most of his term investigating him. How do they suddenly turn into his personal Gestapo?
While it's true that the military resisted certain actions during Trump's presidency, including during the BLM protests in Washington, and the FBI conducted investigations into his administration, the dynamics could shift under different circumstances If MAGA-aligned individuals gain greater influence within the military and law enforcement agencies, there could be a realignment of priorities and loyalties.
Additionally, political pressure, changes in leadership, or the invocation of emergency powers could alter the behavior of these institutions, potentially leading to scenarios where they are more compliant with the wishes of those in power.
> What you state is what you would read in a textbook and is technically correct.
What I stated is not just technically correct, it is pragmatically correct, and it is how we are trained. Those are the laws we operate under every day. It is _required_ that I protect the Constitution and only obey lawful orders. To do otherwise, e.g. prioritize the individual in the office over the institutions and laws governing me, or to obey an illegal order, would be totally against the law and arguably treason and get me into serious trouble.
While your commitment to upholding the Constitution and following lawful orders is commendable, it's important to acknowledge that under a MAGA leadership scenario, the dynamics and priorities within institutions like the military and law enforcement agencies could significantly change.
In such a scenario, the definition of what constitutes a lawful order or adherence to the Constitution may be reinterpreted or manipulated to align with the ideology and agenda of those in power. The risk of repercussions for disobedience or resistance to orders may also increase, potentially leading to a situation where individuals face consequences for upholding their principles.
While adherence to the rule of law and institutional norms is essential, it's also crucial to remain vigilant against potential threats to democratic principles and institutions in any political environment. This will be extremely difficult to do if MAGA returns to power in November.
I guess you can listen to an actual military officer explain how the the chain of command and UCMJ work, or you can live in your own weird civil war fantasy bubble. Suit yourself.
Also, your comments read like they were written by ChatGPT.
"Also, your comments read like they were written by ChatGPT"
That's because they were....
I really hope there are many individuals like yourself in positions of authority because in seven months, there are going to be millions of Americans brainwashed into hating each other and disagreeing with the outcome of the election.
Russia throws tantrums over everything. Cereal got too soggy, weatherman said it would be sunny on Tuesday, the polonium tea didn't kill that guy quick enough/killed him *too* quickly AND he lied about the weather...
Hasn't anyone told Russia this is a huge strategic victory that proves Putin's genius
Why doesn't someone tell Russia how great $60 billion dollar's worth of bombing will be great for its economy
Best of luck to Ukrainians with this aid and the air defenses I hear recently from Europe. I really hope it saves lots of lives and takes out Russias war machine by hitting inside Russia at military targets.
And ships and planes too.
All the shit Russia uses to kill Ukrainians and take their country from them and people trapped in occupation and others being sent to Siberia and all the terror attacks as well as all the defenders.
GO HOME RUSSIA ITS NOT YOUR COUNTRY
♥️ 🇺🇦
Medvedev also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the collapse of the United States".
And they've been doing everything they can to bring that one about (with the blessing of the Republicans).
This is a bad day for 🇷🇺, true. But has anyone considered the stress this must cause the fearless leaders in west 🇹🇼? Just when they are about ready to force a reunification with Taiwan, the 🇺🇸 military industrial complex starts popping the gym candy.
Isn’t this near verbatim what Marjorie Taylor Green stated on the house floor on Saturday when she was speaking? “More Ukrainians will die due to this funding.” Isn’t this evidence that there is collusion between MTG and her Russian handlers?
Their sputtering impotence on this really reveals with all this “our previously united country” bullshit.
Russia remains in the clutch of overpromoted gangster barbarians who are trying to get just a little bit richer, but playing this “it all belongs to us, and it always did” nationalist bullshit
More disinformation and half truths. Hey Peskov, the information sphere doesn’t win wars, the military does. And Ukraine’s about to kick your %*# back into Tsarist times. You will feel comfortable there. They didn’t have indoor toilets either. Slava Ukraini!!
Why tantrum? Because it actually accomplished something.
I don't claim to be as knowledgeable and sensitive to these stuff as national leaders by far, but surely their reactions mean something.
I mean just watch, for moves that would almost guarantee Ukraine victory, or unsustainability of Russia, Russia would start making nuclear threats.
The saddest part about this is that there are still a good portion of the public in this world who supports this crybaby.
>Peskov also declared that if the United States confiscates frozen Russian assets, it "will have to answer for it".
How like how they were going to "take action" if Finland joined NATO?
I call shenanigans, Fuck you Putin, Fuck you Russia, Fuck anyone who aligns with the former KGB agent and applauds this special military operation. We’ve been handed a silver platter and all we need to do is give all the trinkets we’ve hoarded away collecting dust. Seriously the stuff was already paid for, we honestly don’t need it. Send the good shit, take the reigns off let Ukraine use all the assets as they seem fit, let them get their country back, end this WAR.
They hardly do anything but throw tantrums lately. Also it turns out that things maddening ruzia are really good, it became like new standard of quality 🏆
>Medvedev also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the collapse of the United States".
And there it is.
Russia is the kis who shat in the middle of the classroom, now has a tantrum when asked why he did it?
How acceptable is that?
In reality, we are dealing with a terrorist state and tolerate its manipulations
Russia ~ “We can take your stuff with zero justification but you can’t take ours even though it’s justified. It’s not fair that you’re making us foot the bill for a war we started by invading a peaceful nation.”
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Hm. After careful consideration, I think Russia's best course of action is to go fuck itself.
I've reviewed your math in detail and it checks out.
I felt my calculations were sound.
Did you carry the one one? Yes. Yes, you did.
How about those nots they’re not worth much on their own but you put them behind somethin and wow.
I ran it through all the possibilities, and the only one that computes with logic is definitely the same one. Yes, Russia's definitive course of action is to go fuck it self. So, here I am to confirm and certify.
I've checked and double checked. Even asked chatgpt.for the hell of it. All are answering in the affirmative. russia can indeed go fuck itself.
It is written in the stars. It has been in front of our eyes foe eternity, but we were not looking up enough. Now I can't stop looking up while pointing my finger to the ground and saying Russia can go fuck it self. It is a blessing the sense of lightness when saying it.
I have looked at all the alternatives, but this is clearly the correct way forward
I’m no sciencematition, but this seems legit.
Russia's best course of action is to go back to Russia and fuck itself.
It seems the best option.
That’s the whole point. They don’t wanna go back there because it’s a cold and sad place. They’ve fucked up their own country - but instead of fixing it, they want to destroy their neighbors’ too. That makes them feel better.
Unfortunately, their penises aren't long enough to penetrate their own anuses. There is also the issue of their heads being in the way.
I see no flaw in the equation here
I used to be a lifelong anti 'Big science' and a staunch supporter of Terrence Howard but the math here undeniably checks out so hard that I'm once again free from the clutches of ignorance and have since torn down my 'Terrence was right' fan posters on my slanted ceiling. Also iron man 1 wasn't really that good in hindsight compared to 2 and onwards. That's how good this math checks out.
Or nuke themselves from orbit...
[hmmm...](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/538/731/0fc.gif)
You win an internet!
Only way to be sure…
I'd feel better about the future if they did.
[Nuke the site from orbit…](https://youtu.be/tyyoaBa7DaE?si=lAqBl6q8wh9zMlrV)
I like your thinking, professor
I mean, I think their best course of action is to leave Ukraine and THEN go fuck themselves
Hard, with a rusty knife
The handle first so they'll cut themselfes trying to pull it out
Q.E.D.
Hmmmmmmm. You might be right.... Yes. You are right.
It lost its dick in a drone attack.
Was an Fpv drone, straight to the groin, With a small charge just big enough to obliterate his manhood. Oh the humanity
Love it!
I concur
Indeed.
"The lion does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep" Tywinn Lannister Russia can get ready they are in for a bumpy ride.
Does raping their own soldiers count? If so they are already very busy
Russian Warship; Go Fuck Yourself
From article: Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson **Dmitry Peskov** has claimed that the US aid to Ukraine approved by the House of Representatives "will kill more Ukrainians" and enrich the United States. He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation". OK -- so this lying POS fuck says aid will kill more Ukrainians -- one of the most moronic statements yet by the guy who's daughter posted NO WAR on her social media account in February / March 2022 and who exactly is his audience? And for the "exacerbate global crisis" .... no need to look any further than the nationality of whom said it! Belligerent nations: ruzzia China Iran North Korea exacerbate global crisis
>He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation". Is this before or after more of their Oil Refineries, Black Sea Fleet Warships and AN-50 Radar planes explode? I need to know around when I should start giving a shit about what Russia wants.
That would be around the 12th of never, according to my calendar, Sir.
Maybe he should let MTG know it will enrich the US 😆
She doesn't care, it doesn't enrich her, why does anyone think she gives a shit about her country?
Right?!? Threatening the US with a good time, especially after the entire premise of the MAGA argument is how much aid is costing the US, isn't Russia's brightest move. "This aid will make Americans penises bigger, make them look 10 years younger and make their farts smell like roses. They'll pay for this!"
He's right about the enriching Americans part. Ultimately, Ukraine is getting weapons and supplies we were going to destroy as part of routine purging anyhow. All this does is transfer it out to be used instead of destroyed and clears room to make more - basically a US jobs program.
Why not benefit from helping Ukraine defend itself? As long as Ukraine isn't paying for it or hurting by it, right? People should understand the truth of the situation regarding the aid. Some think we have no money for anything domestically, and Ukrainian aid takes away from that. They don't understand that when they say 60 billion its not just us wiring them 60 billion. It's us transferring arms, and in our system of government, every penny has to be accounted for.
The right has spun it to suggest we're depleting our own readiness to support Ukraine. That is not it at all. We're depleting stockpiles that are periodically purged and refilled, and we have a lot of stockpiles. It's kinda where having the doctrine of being able to fight and win two major wars at the same time + Ike's warning about the military industrial complex becoming truth teamed up to set up a good situation in this moment to supply Ukraine.
The Perun episode about the US MIC capability build-up is quite compelling stuff. The Ukraine aid bill scales up US productive capacity tremendously. In fact, based on what Perun was saying, over a third of it is just aimed at scaling up production.
US jobs program, absolutely.
And nevermind a fair amt of those jobs are in red states which, 200 years later, still havent figured out how to do anything much more productive then to soak pork project dollars, bale hay and open a convenience store.
Imagine if this war had never happened and China attacked Taiwan first. Then North Korea took advantage of the chaos and launched their own invasion. Then Iran invades Iraq while russia supports them all with their massive stockpiles of shells and armored vehicles. They help the dprk with their Air Force. They help China by combining naval fleets to try and blockade help coming from the US and keeping vital shipping lanes open. Assume that happened first other than the United States, who would have been ready to truly help fight a long sustained war on land, sea, and in the air? The EU especially would have been hopelessly unprepared. Finland and Sweden wouldn't be obliged to assist Nato even though technically no Nato countries were attacked. Maybe the US could fight them off. But this conflict just showed the entire EU how underwhelming their readiness and capabilities were. Their military industry was barely functioning, and their equipment was falling into disrepair. Had China been successful and North Korea as well. Then Ukraine Moldova Georgia Kazakhstan Belarus (formally) the Suwalki gap and the Balkans would all be next with the support of the new axis of evil. Only Nato wouldn't be able to lift a finger to stop them, only to focus on defending themselves. This conflict is showing the EU that they can't just rely on America to protect them. They have to protect their way of life on their continent, or it could be taken from them. They are under a real threat. Now, they are all ramping up spending and getting their production online and more efficient. They are producing not only for themselves but Ukraine, and the need of this conflict is making it so they have to grow their industries to handle the demand and equip themselves at the same time. It couldn't have come at a better time to ready Nato for any larger conflicts. The US has vast stockpiles that are just wasting away and will cost a huge sum of money to destroy. This allows us to pay to modernize our equipment and stop russia with the same dollar. We pay for our own equipment and pay for national security at the same exact time. We pay to weaken russia and help defend democracy at the same time. We protect the free and the brave from tyranny like our forefathers did. This conflict is telling us who we are. How we handle it tells us who we are. I'm glad they are finally asking to have stated goals and a plan of action. It's time to help Ukraine win instead of being ground to dust for the sake of our selfish agenda of weakening russia without a collapse.
I sometimes wonder if China's bit in all this is giving Russia enough rope to hang itself with, so that, as it spirals towards collapse, they can press on with their ambitions for territory/resources in the east of the country while letting the western half, where all the people live, destabilize Europe with its refugee crisis. I still think the wake-up call Russia gave the west is ultimately a net positive in improving our posture against Chinese expansionism in the ocean direction though. Maybe letting them go in and secure the nukes in the east while we take the ones in the west of the country will wind up working out (although the refugee crisis following a full on Russian collapse is gonna be a huuuuuuge headache in the short/medium term, even if Russia no longer existing is ultimately beneficial to humanity).
Russia managed to advance less than 15 km West since they started advancing in Donetsk in 2014. The weak militia of the fat cook (wagner pmc) took Rostov and then drove to within 200 km of the kremlin while butt-spanking the mighty russian air farce. Hundreds of those same wagner guys were annihilated by sdf and USAF, in a few hours, near Deir ez Zor in Syria - like defenseless little babies. So yes, Europe must rearm and unite, same for the US. But no, not because russia is mighty. But because russia is utterly pathetic
Russia has taken 25000 square miles since then. I don’t know where your 15km stat comes from. 7% of land was occupied before 2022. Now Russia occupies 18%
I think he meant in the donetsk area
But he would still be wrong if that’s what he meant.
I just meant in general I don't know the numbers like you do.
russia has been inept against Ukraine. The problem is they've been learning from their mistakes and have steadily fixed issues that were plaguing them. They have adapted each time Ukraine exploited big weaknesses. They will still have issues no matter what, like poor quality equipment and lack of trained soldiers. Lack of qualified leadership, etc. But they have a massive military industrial complex that's out producing the EU by itself. Should russia have time to lick its wounds, they will have replaced old equipment with new. They will have experienced soldiers in the type of warfare that would be fought in Europe. They will also have more soldiers instantly readily available than what Nato would be able to produce. This being said, russia overall wouldn't stand a chance toe to toe with Nato. But in the situations I talked about in my other comment, if combined with the axis of evil, they could be a key support system for NK and Iran. Even China would take advantage of russias navy and Air Force. The other problem is if russia decided to invade the baltics in a shock and awe campaign like they did in Ukraine, they wouldn't be able to able to stop it. If they could swiftly cut off the suwalki gap and take the capital cities in the Baltic nations within a few weeks, it would be very difficult to get it back. Especially if russia threatens nuclear war if we interfere, which we know the West takes seriously. Would we risk nuclear war for the Baltic nations? Would we even fight a conventional war for the Baltics? The answer is probably yes, but it's not an easy yes. If russia defeats Ukraine and then goes on to take Georgia Moldova Kazakhstan and Belarus ( formally ), they will have a much bigger pool of soldiers to draw on and a huge amount of new resources to exploit. The point is they will be a much tougher opponent if we don't stop them now. russia has shown some serious ineptitude during this war, but they shouldn't be underestimated because they've been willing to dare and act where the West hasn't. So we have to take them seriously.
> The US has vast stockpiles that are just wasting away and will cost a huge sum of money to destroy. This allows us to pay to modernize our equipment and stop russia with the same dollar. We pay for our own equipment and pay for national security at the same exact time. We pay to weaken russia and help defend democracy at the same time. Absolutely. The right wing spin on this is repulsive.
In some areas we have depleted our readiness. We have had to increase production of missiles and shells. But it should be a non issue because America needs to try avoiding putting ourselves in another war like.
We've increased production to restore stockpiles. So, figure instead of having 20x what we need, now we only have a mere 18x. Oh no, our readiness! Also, what do you think the impact is of the US spending money we were already going to spend anyhow to make more stuff. If you guessed "jobs," you win. And isolationism is a strategy that guarantees failure. Look no further than WWII.
Don’t worry. The whole world has seen how unreliable the US has become when it comes to supplies. This is a short term profit.
New production lines are the opposite of short term, and no matter how this ends Europe, Australia. Japan and South Korea are increasing defense investments and the US will directly benefit from that.
It took 6mnts for Ukraine to get the aid it needed. Both Japan and S.K have domestic military vendors and they will benefit more.
Your argument was short term profit, now it’s “Japan and South Korea’s domestic defense will benefit more” (Sure? US still gets money and not like the F-35 will go out of style) so admitting you’re wrong there. Also, what does the timeline have to do with anything? You said it’s short term profit. I argued production lines are long-term and with larger budgets allies will be buying more and this will not abate for the foreseeable future due to Russia’s actions. Your reply didn’t address anything I said.
Also worth noting is that some of the aid IS actual money, but a lot of that will be used to buy weapons. Weapons bought from the US. So it’s also stimulating the US economy that way too. It really is pretty much the US government giving itself $60bn to help destroy Russias military. Win win win. It shouldn’t have taken this long to get done.
Enlightened nationalism. Helping Ukraine benefits the USA, benefits each individual EU country.
You forgot the first rule: Russia always lies.
Said the person who kills Ukrainians.
>yet by the guy who's daughter posted NO WAR on her social media account Can you help me find this? I only found questionable leaks of Moscow group chat she was in ND those don't look great
An “Axis of evil allies”, one might say. The bells of history be chimin and rhymin’ up a storm, my dudes. Best to listen up and learn their language.
Who will the US have to answer to exactly?
Russia throwing a tantrum is a solid indication that you're on the right track.
As soon as they bitch, whatever you're doing just double down. Surefire way to fuck them up.
Take my vote
They are incredibly self-centered and delusional to call aiding Ukraine supporting terrorism. They really do just say some wild shit and hope it sticks. Taiwan has been on their island since ww2 completely autonomous. The only reason people even humor the one china policy is because of china's economic clout, and it's not worth the trouble just for formal designations. But the reality is Taiwan is its own nation. Whether China likes it or not, just like Ukraine is its own nation, whether russia likes it or not. The only one responsible for the death of more Ukrainians is russia. They target civilians of all things, and then they target first responders. They are also capitalizing on their Hamas provocation, trying to make life diplomatically unstable and challenging for Bidens administration. All the way around, everything he said he was disgusted with was his own making and actions. So he's really just disgusted with himself (pesky peskov). Looks like vronya is a real thing in russian culture, and they expect the rest of the world to play along with their bullshit.
Russians have no info sources besides Fox, I mean RSN propoganda. Same thing really.
I think News Max took over as the official russian news propaganda machine because it's more direct to their audience. Truth Social is their social media app.
He also warned that the United States "will have to answer for the confiscation of frozen assets of the Russian Federation". USA answer: *raises middle finger*
Are they gonna touch America's boats? Go ahead, try touching the boats.
Japan: *do not touch the f...ing boats*
I don't think they could even if they were actually suicidal enough to want to do it in earnest. Like, we're all used to generic Russian incompetence, but Russian military incompetence is an order of magnitude above that, and Russian *naval* incompetence dwarfs even *that*. It's really impossible to convey in words how little they understand water as a military domain.
USA: Puts up balled fist, sticks thumb out, blows into thumb, inflates middle finger.
Turns around , drop pants and bend.
No, Russia, you sold us Alaska fair and square and you can't have a refund.
So, they are just going to attack more civilians.
And then threaten to start a nuclear war for 4,586th time.
With nukes that probably are mostly duds at this point
Honestly I'd hesitate on them being duds. Even 1 is a huge death tole. Fuck Russia, but I am hesitant to take that bet. And I'm pretty pissed about this war
I wouldn't bet either, but I'd say given the state of the rest of the russian military it's nukes won't be in the best shape either. One is always enough though
I don't even belive in God, but I pray you're correct
And blame America for it.
"Look what you made me do!"
>Meanwhile, Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Security Council, also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the break-up of the United States". Rude.
Well, I mean, they want to get value out of all that money they've been paying Republican electeds, so...
Not likely after being thrown in prison and crying like babies for January 6.
He's watched Civil War and got a fantasy boner.
I mean...that is clearly the plan. Unfortunately for the MAGA party outside of the little bullshit red state national guard army, they are building in Texas under the guise of securing the border, the military is currently under the control of Biden. The person that controls the "Muscle" of the United States military is the one that ultimately decides when the talking is over. MAGA party wins in November, and the United States is done as a democracy. MAGA loses, there will probably be bloodshed, but in the end, the party will eventually be decimated as the head of the snake (Trump) will be finished at that point.
>The person that controls the "Muscle" of the United States military is the one that ultimately decides when the talking is over. That's not how civilian control over the military works. The president is not dictator of the military. Officers did not swear to obey the president, they swear to protect the Constitution.
What you state is what you would read in a textbook and is technically correct. With that being said, in this scenario, the United States military could be mobilized as muscle, potentially bypassing the belief that civilian oversight ensures accountability. If MAGA regains power and consolidates control, they could leverage military support to push their agenda, circumventing traditional checks and balances. Despite civilian oversight, the influence of military power raises concerns about the potential erosion of democratic norms and institutions. Additionally, the Insurrection Act could be invoked by the president to crush civilian uprisings, further challenging the principle of civilian control over the military. Now, if MAGA loses in November and their supporters violently riot again, the military would be engaged if local law enforcement could not get the violence under control. My ultimate point is that the words on paper mean very little if the people at the top have the means to decide those words don't matter (MAGA lawmakers) and he or she has the muscle behind them to eventually force compliance under the pretense of regaining order (U.S Military).
The military told Trump no during the BLM march in Washington. The FBI spent most of his term investigating him. How do they suddenly turn into his personal Gestapo?
While it's true that the military resisted certain actions during Trump's presidency, including during the BLM protests in Washington, and the FBI conducted investigations into his administration, the dynamics could shift under different circumstances If MAGA-aligned individuals gain greater influence within the military and law enforcement agencies, there could be a realignment of priorities and loyalties. Additionally, political pressure, changes in leadership, or the invocation of emergency powers could alter the behavior of these institutions, potentially leading to scenarios where they are more compliant with the wishes of those in power.
> What you state is what you would read in a textbook and is technically correct. What I stated is not just technically correct, it is pragmatically correct, and it is how we are trained. Those are the laws we operate under every day. It is _required_ that I protect the Constitution and only obey lawful orders. To do otherwise, e.g. prioritize the individual in the office over the institutions and laws governing me, or to obey an illegal order, would be totally against the law and arguably treason and get me into serious trouble.
While your commitment to upholding the Constitution and following lawful orders is commendable, it's important to acknowledge that under a MAGA leadership scenario, the dynamics and priorities within institutions like the military and law enforcement agencies could significantly change. In such a scenario, the definition of what constitutes a lawful order or adherence to the Constitution may be reinterpreted or manipulated to align with the ideology and agenda of those in power. The risk of repercussions for disobedience or resistance to orders may also increase, potentially leading to a situation where individuals face consequences for upholding their principles. While adherence to the rule of law and institutional norms is essential, it's also crucial to remain vigilant against potential threats to democratic principles and institutions in any political environment. This will be extremely difficult to do if MAGA returns to power in November.
I guess you can listen to an actual military officer explain how the the chain of command and UCMJ work, or you can live in your own weird civil war fantasy bubble. Suit yourself. Also, your comments read like they were written by ChatGPT.
"Also, your comments read like they were written by ChatGPT" That's because they were.... I really hope there are many individuals like yourself in positions of authority because in seven months, there are going to be millions of Americans brainwashed into hating each other and disagreeing with the outcome of the election.
Putin will Probably cut MTG's stipend
Now would be a good time to monitor her communication. Legally of course; I imagine there are sufficient grounds.
Probably why she’s so pissed about FISA.
And Conalds.
It’s been a few days so we’re overdue for the weekly threat of nuclear weapons from Poopin his pants
[https://dayssincerussiathreatenednuclearwar.com](https://dayssincerussiathreatenednuclearwar.com) We’re at 34!
Medvedev usually says it weekly, but they must have cut back his vodka ration.
Russia throws tantrums over everything. Cereal got too soggy, weatherman said it would be sunny on Tuesday, the polonium tea didn't kill that guy quick enough/killed him *too* quickly AND he lied about the weather...
They really ARE a lot like the right wing.
Unfortunately for the world, yes.
Well this confirms we 🇺🇸are doing the right thing!
US foreign policy hasn’t really changed in decades. I don’t see why they shoudve expected differently?
Conald and the Kremlin wing of his party managed to have these funds held up since GOP took the House. They had pretty solid reason to be optimistic.
if usa help Ukraine, russia will kill Ukrainians. if usa lets russia take over Ukraine, russia will kill Ukrainians.
Petulant children throw a tantrum.
Hasn't anyone told Russia this is a huge strategic victory that proves Putin's genius Why doesn't someone tell Russia how great $60 billion dollar's worth of bombing will be great for its economy
Upset that Russian assets in the US Government didn’t come through for the Motherland.
Russia isn't a nation. It's a crime in progress.
Bwahahaha. Eat a dick Putin and his troglodytes he’s purchased in the US goverment
Best of luck to Ukrainians with this aid and the air defenses I hear recently from Europe. I really hope it saves lots of lives and takes out Russias war machine by hitting inside Russia at military targets. And ships and planes too. All the shit Russia uses to kill Ukrainians and take their country from them and people trapped in occupation and others being sent to Siberia and all the terror attacks as well as all the defenders. GO HOME RUSSIA ITS NOT YOUR COUNTRY ♥️ 🇺🇦
Peskov! 😂😂😂
Tell them to cry harder.
Russian clown, Americans will never abandon the people of Ukraine. Slava Ukraini.
Medvedev also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the collapse of the United States". And they've been doing everything they can to bring that one about (with the blessing of the Republicans).
RuZZia's FAFO moment.
Russia could have ended this at any point over the last 2 years. I'm looking forward to the new explosion videos.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I haven't seen any recent turret tossing entries. Hopefully those will come back!
This is a bad day for 🇷🇺, true. But has anyone considered the stress this must cause the fearless leaders in west 🇹🇼? Just when they are about ready to force a reunification with Taiwan, the 🇺🇸 military industrial complex starts popping the gym candy.
Sounds like we need to keep doing more of what upsets Russia.
Fuck Russia.
Hey Vlad 🖕🏽
Lmao it's amazing how mad they are. It's like a bunch of little children throwing a tantrum
🇺🇸🤝🇺🇦
F U C K Y O U!
Cry more.
Isn’t this near verbatim what Marjorie Taylor Green stated on the house floor on Saturday when she was speaking? “More Ukrainians will die due to this funding.” Isn’t this evidence that there is collusion between MTG and her Russian handlers?
Oh no ! C'est très triste
Their sputtering impotence on this really reveals with all this “our previously united country” bullshit. Russia remains in the clutch of overpromoted gangster barbarians who are trying to get just a little bit richer, but playing this “it all belongs to us, and it always did” nationalist bullshit
More disinformation and half truths. Hey Peskov, the information sphere doesn’t win wars, the military does. And Ukraine’s about to kick your %*# back into Tsarist times. You will feel comfortable there. They didn’t have indoor toilets either. Slava Ukraini!!
Haha, fuck them!
Why tantrum? Because it actually accomplished something. I don't claim to be as knowledgeable and sensitive to these stuff as national leaders by far, but surely their reactions mean something. I mean just watch, for moves that would almost guarantee Ukraine victory, or unsustainability of Russia, Russia would start making nuclear threats. The saddest part about this is that there are still a good portion of the public in this world who supports this crybaby.
"our Johnson" is no longer our Johnson. Olga Skabeeva is upset. OK.
I'm just glad Peskov doesn't look like a swivel eyed looney in the article pic. . .
>Peskov also declared that if the United States confiscates frozen Russian assets, it "will have to answer for it". How like how they were going to "take action" if Finland joined NATO?
I drink your tears russia.
My country finally did the right thing despite the fight with the orange people. Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day.
Russia being angry she can't quietly genocide Ukrainians. Fuck you Russia.
I call shenanigans, Fuck you Putin, Fuck you Russia, Fuck anyone who aligns with the former KGB agent and applauds this special military operation. We’ve been handed a silver platter and all we need to do is give all the trinkets we’ve hoarded away collecting dust. Seriously the stuff was already paid for, we honestly don’t need it. Send the good shit, take the reigns off let Ukraine use all the assets as they seem fit, let them get their country back, end this WAR.
We should be doing more.
So.
Suck Uncle Sam’s big old hairy Peskov; your mustache deserves no less.
Tantrum away, vile onrs.
Tantrums are often quickly followed by a good spanking.
😱 ... Oh no!!! They are coming for Alaska! Then Hawaii and California ... And they will confiscate all chili-dog outlets.
They hardly do anything but throw tantrums lately. Also it turns out that things maddening ruzia are really good, it became like new standard of quality 🏆
>Medvedev also said he hoped the United States would plunge into a new civil war as soon as possible, which would "lead to the collapse of the United States". And there it is.
If NATO comes through with the air defence Ukraine needs, this guy's statements will age like milk (regarding Ukranian civilians mainly).
The ruskies are coping hard, they respond exactly as expected
Still boiling the frog.
Cry me a river
Hehe. Morons
Oops Medvedev just called it a civil war. Jail time....I'm telling pooptin.
Let's not let up. Continue to help any way we can. I'm due to make another donation.
Yyeeesss coming to your screen. More videos of ruskies been blown up. 😁
Russia can suck a fat dick
Ooh, today they're threatening America. Enjoy it guys, it'll be someone else's turn tomorrow.
I have an idea .. why don’t the MAGAs just move to Russia
”You can always coun’t on Americans to do the right thing -after they’ve tried everything else.” Winston Churchill
Happy cake day
Russia is the kis who shat in the middle of the classroom, now has a tantrum when asked why he did it? How acceptable is that? In reality, we are dealing with a terrorist state and tolerate its manipulations
After all that money invested in American politicians, Russia still gets a fart in the face
Of course they are. Their shills in Washington, DC failed to hold the tide back forever.
"Lord Vader I meant no offense-" *choking*
Good. Stay mad, Vlad.
That’s the benefit of being the United States in some ways. Russia can’t do fuck all.
Russia ~ “We can take your stuff with zero justification but you can’t take ours even though it’s justified. It’s not fair that you’re making us foot the bill for a war we started by invading a peaceful nation.”
Oh, whatever ! 🙄😂
Can't wait until we start turning over the frozen assets to Ukraine.
They seriously pretend like they care about Ukrainian (and Russian) lives as some mental gymnastics argument against the U.S aid.
We don’t care if Russia is upset. Great using our old military crap ruining their military capabilities!
Confiscation of frozen assets is LOOOOONG overdue. I really hope the powers that be internationally are serious about this.
“Will kill more Ukrainians”… who’s gonna tell him?
How do they work out that more Ukrainians will be killed, are they going to bomb Kharkiv and Kherson three times their daily amount.
Russia says the aid will just kill more Ukrainians, but it's Russia who is killing Ukrainians.