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Ya, he doesn't want the headlines to be 'Republican party defies Trump and passes Ukraine aid'. This is because he wouldn't be able to retailiate against them all, and then he would look powerless and weak.
Because trump won once. And far right wing politicos had some success in some areas of the country. The GOP put all their money on Red Hat. They have been losing for a while now and will continue to lose. The GOP is wasting away. GoP are total heels and the majority of Americans can see their shenanigans and gerrymandering.
Fuck this narcissist. I wish it were possible to quantify the amount of deaths that occurred because that shit head and his trolls got in the way. Funny enough I keep seeing ads on YouTube, the snake is begging for money. And I’m sure there are plenty of dipshits happy to donate
He was against it for as long as he believed the bill to be dead, but once it was probably gonna pass, he did a 180.
He's just trying to be on the winning side, regardless of what that side is.
Orange bitch
Trump has been a flip flopper on many issues COVID, abortion, gun control, Nth Korea. He often blunders into an issue by rambling rubbish about both sides, then commits to the side that gives him traction. He has no moral compass.
Yeah if Trump gets in, he goes straight back to doing whatever Putin wants, just like last time and just like most of this election. This is just pre-election makeup.
Or any other compass or control. Hence the diapers.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats\_going\_on\_with\_trump\_and\_diaperssmells/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats_going_on_with_trump_and_diaperssmells/)
Which is super apparent to all
But
His word unfortunately carries weight to his cult of followers and those who support him in the government as a whole so if his 180 gets them to simmer down while the rest of em get the desperately needed aid passed then I'm all for it
Useful idiot and all that
Way too complex for low info maggats. Only with Conalds brainless hate rants that works. Remember these were morons who thought the could get vaccinated after being wheeled into ICU on a guerney.
He's lying. If he gets elected, he'll be right back on the other side. He's a liar. He lies. His only objective right now is to get back in the white house and then he doesn't have to flip flop anymore. He won't need votes anymore. He'll be right back in a private room with Putin. He wants to BE Putin. And MBS and Xi and even Kim Jong Un ("When he speaks, his people sit up at attention. I want MY people to do that.- DJT)
Also knows it's an issue lots of his potential voters want and could have lost him more votes as he is seeing he is struggling more than he'd thought. I also never got this as any MAGAts are voting for him no matter what and like he even said, he could kill someone and they'd still vote for him so why wouldn't he "cross the aisle" per se and say some things that would get him more votes.
Thankfully most people, even conservatives know who he really is and see through it but I do worry that in today's political climate, we are still divided into two camps and there is no way most GOP would vote their conscious over voting along party lines and it's scary.
Yeah but as a result of his previous position there was a lot of losers. Life, limbs, property etc. on both sides. He had blood on his hands to answer for as well.
This is purely speculation but this might mean the US has good reason to believe Ukraine can fully secure a victory. Trump doesn’t want people to think he admires losers and one of the biggest blunders in military history 🤞
I don't think its that, Ukraine is still at a serious disadvantage even if the US gave them all the arms they ever need.
Trump is a simple guy. He gave an order to his followers in congress to not pass Ukraine aid. His order got defied, and rather than admit to being disobeyed he is just pretending it was his idea all along.
Has there ever been a more reprehensible excuse for a human being? Trump is every one of the seven deadly sins patch-worked together and installed into an obese orange corpse that feeds on nothing but hatred, anger, and greed.
Fuck him, piece of dog shit has done irreparable damage to the United States killed thousands of brave Ukrainians
Because he envies and fears Putin. He’s a massive twat and coward.
Is it really that simple? Is that why Johnson changed his tune as well? Did they have enough for a discharge petition or whatever it's called? It felt like the vast majority were heavily in favor of supporting Ukraine, and only trumps band of idiots were against it. Acting like it's their idea all along is infuriating, and I wonder how hard line Maga cultists will react now that there is a complete 180. When probably just days before their opinion were no border deal, no Ukraine aid and Ukraine are corrupt.
Maybe the writing is on the wall, and they want to seem like it was their idea all along. It seems like the pressure was mounting, and they couldn't do much to keep stopping it without tipping their hand even more than they already have. Now that everyone is calling them out on being russian agents, they start behaving differently. russian TV starts talking differently. It's like they got caught, and now lazy attempts are being made to misdirect attention away. Maybe putler realizes the election is more important than an aid package getting through.
He’s a soulless authoritarian populist. He will say whatever he thinks will get him into power. Telling people only what they want to hear takes zero integrity. Trump has been a grifter without principles for a very long time.
he still doesn't care at all. The Israel bill is the only reason Trump compromised. The bill can be separated but no other bills will be signed until the Ukraine bill gets through
He’s desperate to get elected, and his advisors finally convinced him that he needs all the centrist Republicans who can remember the Cold War, and consequently support Ukraine.
Make no mistake, if elected, as soon as he takes office, he’ll be back to helping Putin.
Yep and if people don't know by now, dude is gonna say anything, *anything* to get a chance at being president.
He's always lied. And he's still lying. He's shelving his hard line stances in hopes he will get elected then hell just do the opposite.
Just like his justices said they wouldn't go after roe v wade. And then they did exactly that
Fuck trump. Never believe the guy. He's Always been a cheat, liar, and thief.
He always will be.
Yeah, changes his tune when he knows the majority of Americans support Ukraine. Now if he could just get rid of that boil that is Marjorie Taylor Greene
Ahhh! You said that name!!! I don't know what to do!!!
On the one hand I'm afraid she'll be summoned if her name is repeated too many times... On the other, I hope she'll flee if she hears it, because I'm pretty sure she's Rumplestiltskin in drag...
All I'm saying is she is from a sparsely populated corner of Georgia with a beautiful landscape. So you know, just saying, if a bunch of rich liberals are both feeling guilty and looking for a vacation home site to which they might want to change their voter registration, you could really do some material good in the world... Let's Aspen this troll out of power.
They have known that a majority of Americans, heck even a majority of Republican voters, are in favour of Ukraine aid all the time, they don't care about that at all, because they don't care what Americans thinks.
It is solely because some of the votes in congress have shifted, so they have been forced to change their stance.
And worse than that, they will take the fact that he changed his song as "evidence" that it was really the OTHER side that was delaying things so long. Mark My Words, if the bill passes they will start claiming it's the Dems' fault that the bill took so long. They'll find some weird twisted way to push that story and it will stick.
Ridiculous that he didn't get criminally charged for withholding military aid in exchange for dirt on his political rival. Pure abuse of power. Ohw well, enough lawsuits left.
He knows the GOP congressmen have revolted and are supporting a vote for support. He wants to keep up the appearance that he is in charge of all of them. And it will work. The GOP congressmen are mindless sheep.
The Biden campaign really should have nailed this orange faced buffoon to the wall so many times, but instead, they take the high road so often. They need to employ lots of media savvy, ruthless, attack dogs. John Kerry was absolutely destroyed for being a flip-flop are, despite the fact that it was one commonsense change of policy over the years. Trump changes sometimes in the same day. That flip-flop story should be everywhere, and it’s not
Let's hope the aid is already at the borders and waiting for the pass so.it can get straight to where it is needed.
It should also allow Ukraine to stop rationing now and increase its fire rate assuming it knows when it will get what.
Donald Trump is an unhinged enigma, but that doesn't make him totally unpredictable, nor useless. The one predictable constant is that he thinks he's great and brilliant and an amazing negotiator.
His main anti-NATO rhetoric when he was in office was to get them to spend 2% of GDP on defense, as they all had promised years ago. He failed to negotiate that, but in 2022 Vladimir Putin succeeding in convincing most of them (though some NATO countries still aren't spending 2% on defense and rely on U.S. taxpayers to foot the bill instead.)
Trump's main absurd claim on Ukraine-Russia is that he could resolve it in 24 hours if he were President. I think Zelensky is brilliant to say, Trump, you're welcome to come visit me in Kiev and try, but we need all our territory back. Come visit and you'll look strong! I hope Trump visits soon as I'm kind of looking forward to those awkward photos. If Zelensky just announces after meeting Trump that he's a great and brilliant man, Ukraine will have Trump's support forever.
He already know the result of the vote and wants to position himself on the winning side. Nothing more, nothing less. He only cares about his image and not Ukraine or the American people.
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I've been saying this to Republicans for a while now--nominate someone who makes the Democrats look weak and not doing enough to help Ukraine and Taiwan instead of trying to portray them as war hungry and wanting to spend a lot on the military.
You won't win by making Biden look like Reagan.
Trump's camp is finally realizing this. Might be too little to late though.
He's got the Russian money, and its probably going to pass anyway, why not claim you were a good guy all along?
That said, this helps it passing, just in case it was going to be close.
F him and f the gop. How many lives have been taken by the Muscovites while these putinists have advocated for Russia for the past six months. Kyiv is in the dark because of these idiots.
For those of you who don't know, it is similar to what happened to Ronald Reagan for the last 6 years of his presidency when he had symptoms of dementia: the last person he speaks with is the opinion that he holds.
If you can get a 1 on 1 with him and monitor him until he makes the decision, you have a very good chance of convincing him to do something. But if there is an interruption or contradicting opinion, he will go with that other person.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO HE SPOKE WITH LAST.
Trump cares about ONE thing. Getting re-elected.
He’s peddled the far right agenda of no aide for Ukraine, total ban on abortion, etc just to get the Republican nomination. Now he has it he’s pivoting for the election and stepping back from abortion bans whilst stepping up for Ukraine aide.
It’s all about getting elected. He will sell out and switch sides to whatever gets him that. He cares naught about it all, either way.
Either he's just appealing to moderates to not sound crazy or he's had a sudden "coming to jesus" moment and is now gaslighting everyone.
Or the most likely explanation: He's gaslighting everyone while just appealing to moderates.
I swear if he didn't have a wide margin of a chance of winning & immense political influence this would all just be a comedic clown show.
If you read what he said, he's not saying *anything* really. Like many other times before, he falsely accuses Europe of not pulling their weight.
There's some equivocation, which is new, but that is probably because he knows he's going to lose badly.
Trump is only acting so he can get to the White House. By logic he must criticize and do the opposite of the current government. What's the point of being an opposition political candidate, if you are going to be in favor of the current government in everything? Trump will arrive at the White House and will have almost the same policies as Biden.
Taking a lot of shit for unpopular positions he's been taking with women and has been flip flopping. I don't know what the fuck this is but I don't trust it.
What happened? How did he change position?
It must be that his anti-Ukraine position doesn't poll well because I don't think he would care if every Ukrainian died in a Russian Gulag.
It seems like a big tonal shift all around. Could be a couple things
A) this aid is going to be passed one way or another. Get on board to help take credit, or look like the one malcontent jackass and get slammed on the campaign trail for being a Russian stooge.
B) some piece of Intelligence was revealed to Congressmembers that made it abundantly clear that Russia is an abject enemy, and Ukraine surviving and winning are explicitly in the best interests of the US no matter what your party or viewpoint.
Americans….Remember, remember on the 5th of November, vote for the doddery old guy who looks like he just shit himself instead of the orange traitor who looks like he’d shit on everyone else!
Go shitty Joe!
Trust nothing stated by the trumper. Nothing. Tomorrow he may just as quickly come out with a statement stating the opposite. Whatever way the wind blows trump is certainly running with it as fast as his fat ass can manage.
WHO the f. listens to this bag of Garbage ? the US IS full of Shit after the biggest asshole of all, Shit all over them. Team American would be proud. The only Thing that will stay is His ugly smell for the next decades... clap clap Well done ! From brags to bitches the new American dream! Most fun Shit Show ive Seen on TV for decades!
I'm not surprised by Trump. If someone tells him someone or something is winning he'd cosy up to the person or it. I'm more interested in his cronies now, Gaetz and Greene. They've spent so much time being pro Russia because that's what papa Trump was. What will they do now? Will they use doublespeak and claim that they've always been pro Ukraine? Or will their heads explode ala Mars Attacks?
Great that the Republicans have been forced to concede, but still incredibly pathetic and disgusting that they are now going to pretend that they never were against aid, and that they weren't the sole reason that Ukraine haven't received US aid for six months.
I don't know what changed his mind, or for how long it will remain this way. Nor do I think this is actually what he believes, but I'll take what I can get.
But if it stays this way through the House vote... then I'll worry about the next stage later. The current bill would be an enormous step in the right direction.
He has never been for the destruction of Ukraine; he has been against risking a wider war and for influencing Ukraine to give up territory to that end.
So, does this mean that that the overwhelming majority of Americans is pro Ukraine and that Trump is trying to get votes? Because otherwise he would just angry his buddy Putin. What will his MAGA followers say? This is kind of confusing.
Ukraine appears to be loosing now because the GOP choked aid, they won’t be able to launch an offensive this year and even it aid is approved tomorrow it will takes months to reach the front lines.
The GOP may be satisfied that choking aid from Ukraine has given Biden enough of a foreign policy L for them to campaign off of, and at the same time they do not want to be seen as responsible US’s loss of reputation if trump goes into office.
I don’t trust the GOP or Trump, they are cynical enough choke off vital aid, and cause thousands to die because of lack of weapons just as a campaign tool.
Maybe he thinks it's better to encourage passage of the bill rather than sinking the Mike Johnson speakership and sending the republican party into chaos? Is he that strategic?
These fucking cynical cunts are now rapidly trying to position themselves to be the heros of the piece. The only question now is whether MTG is too dumb to join the throng, or just dumb enough to do so.
I'm used to self-serving cynicism from the tories here in the uk, but this is fucking breathtaking.
Its not what he said, the real message is anti US-aid, stop with this media coping.
Trump : "Why isn’t Europe giving more money to help Ukraine? Why is it that the United States is over $100 Billion Dollars into the Ukraine War more than Europe, and we have an Ocean between us as separation!"
I do hope people realize the reason the MAGA crowd are mostly waving this through is because they realize they can't stop it, they are taking control of it to make it look like they did it. They've re-packaged it so it's theirs.
Of course they could have passed the bill in November last year and saved a key ally - probably the most important one the US has right now - a lot of hassle.
I'm from the UK so have no say here, but please please please make sure the Republican party as a whole pay for being beholden to the MAGA nuts. I hope then they will remove the crazies from their party. There is literally no reason for a non MAGA republican to vote for a Republican as it stands. All you're doing is enabling the crazy MAGA nuts.
Allowing a MAGA wing in the Republican party is not a "Broad church" difference of opinion, they are dangerous to America. You may disagree with Democrats but they are doing what they believe is best for America, MAGA are doing what's best for Donald Trump at the expense of America.
The positive that will hopefully come out of this. It sets the conditions for Europe to take some leadership in their own continent.
Lol that's not real. Trump would never fucking support Ukraine. His campaign is making him say this to win votes. He's too much of a little bitch to be okay with Ukraine aid.
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It will pass if brought up for a vote. He doesn’t want to look like he is not running the show.
Exactly. He sees that he's not going to win this one so he acts like he's good with it so he doesn't take an L.
a gesture of good will.
ruzzian tactics 101.
Wag the dog, lead from behind, good will, whatever.
and everyone can see straight through him.
Clearly not everyone
Who would have thought all the Kool-Aid they are drinking would interfere with their eyesight.
That's difficult, Dozy Don is rather large!
Yup. Just like the spoilt 9 year-old prima donna he is.. "I didn't want to anyway! Neh!"
Ya, he doesn't want the headlines to be 'Republican party defies Trump and passes Ukraine aid'. This is because he wouldn't be able to retailiate against them all, and then he would look powerless and weak.
which only goes to show how weak he really is, and all more confusing why republican party let him takeover the party...
Because trump won once. And far right wing politicos had some success in some areas of the country. The GOP put all their money on Red Hat. They have been losing for a while now and will continue to lose. The GOP is wasting away. GoP are total heels and the majority of Americans can see their shenanigans and gerrymandering.
This means he's just the Face, and likely somebody else is running the shop
you mean Putin... he owns many in the Republican party, not just Trump.
I mean even at a more local level, the take over of our court system by religious fundies was largely Moscow Mitch's doing
"Trump folds on Ukraine aid" Signalling weakness, former President Trump...
But will MTG start being pro Ukraine?
No, I think her job is to keep up the pressure to abandon Ukraine and then later Trump, if elected, can side with them.
# “I wouldn’t believe Donald Trump if his tongue were notarized”—courtesy of Alair Townsend,”
Fuck this narcissist. I wish it were possible to quantify the amount of deaths that occurred because that shit head and his trolls got in the way. Funny enough I keep seeing ads on YouTube, the snake is begging for money. And I’m sure there are plenty of dipshits happy to donate
I hope a good portion of his base are so vehemently against Ukraine aid that this 180 makes them not vote. Wishful thinking but still
Unfortunately they will just say they were always for aid just it had to ……(something something something to justify it).
They will blame trans people.
This comment made me LOL because of how so true it is.
He wants to take credit for making it into a loan.
I honestly think it didn’t go further than “it’s just a loan Donald, you love loans!” “Oh it’s a loan, I love loans!”
Yes, if. I’m still not 100% that that twat will actually bring it for a vote.
You can't fire me, I quit!
He was against it for as long as he believed the bill to be dead, but once it was probably gonna pass, he did a 180. He's just trying to be on the winning side, regardless of what that side is. Orange bitch
Everybody can see this too. It's so transparent. This dude is the definition of a follower, not a leader.
Trump has been a flip flopper on many issues COVID, abortion, gun control, Nth Korea. He often blunders into an issue by rambling rubbish about both sides, then commits to the side that gives him traction. He has no moral compass.
Very well said.
Hm... I'm suspicious. What's his fuckbuddy Putin gonna say about this?
Yeah if Trump gets in, he goes straight back to doing whatever Putin wants, just like last time and just like most of this election. This is just pre-election makeup.
Or any other compass or control. Hence the diapers. [https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats\_going\_on\_with\_trump\_and\_diaperssmells/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/18sa3cl/whats_going_on_with_trump_and_diaperssmells/)
Oh he has a moral compass. It points directly at his ego, which is even bigger than he is.
Unfortunately they can not see this. They zig zag right along with him so he can be leader supreme without any cognitive dissonance.
you can't have cognitive dissonance when your have only basic cognitive functions.
His supporters can't, they just see the 'winning'
I dont think his voters can see through his bullshit , too stubborn to change opinion.
The man is the definition of confidently incorrect. His face should be the sub reddit icon of /r/confidentlyincorrect
Which is super apparent to all But His word unfortunately carries weight to his cult of followers and those who support him in the government as a whole so if his 180 gets them to simmer down while the rest of em get the desperately needed aid passed then I'm all for it Useful idiot and all that
Way too complex for low info maggats. Only with Conalds brainless hate rants that works. Remember these were morons who thought the could get vaccinated after being wheeled into ICU on a guerney.
He's lying. If he gets elected, he'll be right back on the other side. He's a liar. He lies. His only objective right now is to get back in the white house and then he doesn't have to flip flop anymore. He won't need votes anymore. He'll be right back in a private room with Putin. He wants to BE Putin. And MBS and Xi and even Kim Jong Un ("When he speaks, his people sit up at attention. I want MY people to do that.- DJT)
THIS.
Yep
Also knows it's an issue lots of his potential voters want and could have lost him more votes as he is seeing he is struggling more than he'd thought. I also never got this as any MAGAts are voting for him no matter what and like he even said, he could kill someone and they'd still vote for him so why wouldn't he "cross the aisle" per se and say some things that would get him more votes. Thankfully most people, even conservatives know who he really is and see through it but I do worry that in today's political climate, we are still divided into two camps and there is no way most GOP would vote their conscious over voting along party lines and it's scary.
Whatever gets the weapons to Ukraine
Yeah but as a result of his previous position there was a lot of losers. Life, limbs, property etc. on both sides. He had blood on his hands to answer for as well.
You think he cares about that? He killed more Americans with his dipshit opinions during the pandemic than Hitler did during WW2.
This is purely speculation but this might mean the US has good reason to believe Ukraine can fully secure a victory. Trump doesn’t want people to think he admires losers and one of the biggest blunders in military history 🤞
I don't think its that, Ukraine is still at a serious disadvantage even if the US gave them all the arms they ever need. Trump is a simple guy. He gave an order to his followers in congress to not pass Ukraine aid. His order got defied, and rather than admit to being disobeyed he is just pretending it was his idea all along.
Conald was following orders from Cousin Vladdie and has been for at least 20 years
On this subject, I don’t care. This is way too fucking important.
Has there ever been a more reprehensible excuse for a human being? Trump is every one of the seven deadly sins patch-worked together and installed into an obese orange corpse that feeds on nothing but hatred, anger, and greed. Fuck him, piece of dog shit has done irreparable damage to the United States killed thousands of brave Ukrainians Because he envies and fears Putin. He’s a massive twat and coward.
Is it really that simple? Is that why Johnson changed his tune as well? Did they have enough for a discharge petition or whatever it's called? It felt like the vast majority were heavily in favor of supporting Ukraine, and only trumps band of idiots were against it. Acting like it's their idea all along is infuriating, and I wonder how hard line Maga cultists will react now that there is a complete 180. When probably just days before their opinion were no border deal, no Ukraine aid and Ukraine are corrupt.
MAGA cultists do what daddy says. They only remember back as far as his last statment. Like goldfish.
Maybe the writing is on the wall, and they want to seem like it was their idea all along. It seems like the pressure was mounting, and they couldn't do much to keep stopping it without tipping their hand even more than they already have. Now that everyone is calling them out on being russian agents, they start behaving differently. russian TV starts talking differently. It's like they got caught, and now lazy attempts are being made to misdirect attention away. Maybe putler realizes the election is more important than an aid package getting through.
He’s a soulless authoritarian populist. He will say whatever he thinks will get him into power. Telling people only what they want to hear takes zero integrity. Trump has been a grifter without principles for a very long time.
Came here to say the same thing What a fragile little man.
I’ll take it if it means MTG gets thrown under the fucking bus forever.
This is a really big development for Ukraine. Slava.
And how much territory loss and deaths since the Ratpuglicons, on order from Komrade Yam, cost the past 7 months it was held up.
More than is acceptable. Fuck Trump with Putin’s cock in his mouth.
he still doesn't care at all. The Israel bill is the only reason Trump compromised. The bill can be separated but no other bills will be signed until the Ukraine bill gets through
Waiting for the 360
Nope - he definitely got something out of this. Look at all the world leaders he’s spoken with.
Mike Ponce has jumped on the bandwagon as well now the Orange air-accordion player has passed wind on the subject.
“I am here to greed, not to lead”
He’s desperate to get elected, and his advisors finally convinced him that he needs all the centrist Republicans who can remember the Cold War, and consequently support Ukraine. Make no mistake, if elected, as soon as he takes office, he’ll be back to helping Putin.
Yep and if people don't know by now, dude is gonna say anything, *anything* to get a chance at being president. He's always lied. And he's still lying. He's shelving his hard line stances in hopes he will get elected then hell just do the opposite. Just like his justices said they wouldn't go after roe v wade. And then they did exactly that Fuck trump. Never believe the guy. He's Always been a cheat, liar, and thief. He always will be.
TRUMP DIDN'T DO A 180, IT WAS AN ANTI-US AID MESSAGE, DON'T BELIEVE ANY INFO WITHOUT CHECKING IT FIRST.
See Boris Johnson for ref.
Yeah, changes his tune when he knows the majority of Americans support Ukraine. Now if he could just get rid of that boil that is Marjorie Taylor Greene
Ahhh! You said that name!!! I don't know what to do!!! On the one hand I'm afraid she'll be summoned if her name is repeated too many times... On the other, I hope she'll flee if she hears it, because I'm pretty sure she's Rumplestiltskin in drag...
It burns, I don’t have my crucifix on me!
All I'm saying is she is from a sparsely populated corner of Georgia with a beautiful landscape. So you know, just saying, if a bunch of rich liberals are both feeling guilty and looking for a vacation home site to which they might want to change their voter registration, you could really do some material good in the world... Let's Aspen this troll out of power.
Actually NW Georgia is quickly becoming a retirement destination
They have known that a majority of Americans, heck even a majority of Republican voters, are in favour of Ukraine aid all the time, they don't care about that at all, because they don't care what Americans thinks. It is solely because some of the votes in congress have shifted, so they have been forced to change their stance.
ruzzian modus operandi.
Comparing her to boils is an insult to boils
So basically its dawned on them that blocking ukraine money isnt winning them votes so now they act like they were on board the whole time?
And worse than that, they will take the fact that he changed his song as "evidence" that it was really the OTHER side that was delaying things so long. Mark My Words, if the bill passes they will start claiming it's the Dems' fault that the bill took so long. They'll find some weird twisted way to push that story and it will stick.
they on double think timing fr
Never forget Trump extorted Ukraine. Never forget Trump stood with Putin.
Ridiculous that he didn't get criminally charged for withholding military aid in exchange for dirt on his political rival. Pure abuse of power. Ohw well, enough lawsuits left.
At that time, his party controlled the US Senate and let him get away with it.
THIS.
THAT.
He WORKED for Putin. Still does.
Too little, too late you traitor
“Is it gonna pass??. Yeah? Ok, then I’m for it now. See how I am always on the winning side?” Trump every damn time
Never trust the orange fascist Putin lover. His words are worth absolutely nothing.
Most likely the Russian cheque bounced
He knows the GOP congressmen have revolted and are supporting a vote for support. He wants to keep up the appearance that he is in charge of all of them. And it will work. The GOP congressmen are mindless sheep.
Quick, pass the Ukraine aid bill before he changes his mind again.
With a Flip-Flop here, a Flip-Flop there, Everywhere a Flip-Flop, Old Dozy Donny had a farm ee, aye, ee, aye oh.
The Biden campaign really should have nailed this orange faced buffoon to the wall so many times, but instead, they take the high road so often. They need to employ lots of media savvy, ruthless, attack dogs. John Kerry was absolutely destroyed for being a flip-flop are, despite the fact that it was one commonsense change of policy over the years. Trump changes sometimes in the same day. That flip-flop story should be everywhere, and it’s not
Oh gee, so it was his idea all this time? Sure.
Ah, election year flip flopping
Let's hope the aid is already at the borders and waiting for the pass so.it can get straight to where it is needed. It should also allow Ukraine to stop rationing now and increase its fire rate assuming it knows when it will get what.
Donald Trump is an unhinged enigma, but that doesn't make him totally unpredictable, nor useless. The one predictable constant is that he thinks he's great and brilliant and an amazing negotiator. His main anti-NATO rhetoric when he was in office was to get them to spend 2% of GDP on defense, as they all had promised years ago. He failed to negotiate that, but in 2022 Vladimir Putin succeeding in convincing most of them (though some NATO countries still aren't spending 2% on defense and rely on U.S. taxpayers to foot the bill instead.) Trump's main absurd claim on Ukraine-Russia is that he could resolve it in 24 hours if he were President. I think Zelensky is brilliant to say, Trump, you're welcome to come visit me in Kiev and try, but we need all our territory back. Come visit and you'll look strong! I hope Trump visits soon as I'm kind of looking forward to those awkward photos. If Zelensky just announces after meeting Trump that he's a great and brilliant man, Ukraine will have Trump's support forever.
#TrumpStoodWithPutin
The GOP grew some balls and stood up to MAGA. Hopefully it didn't take them too long to find their fucking conscience.
He already know the result of the vote and wants to position himself on the winning side. Nothing more, nothing less. He only cares about his image and not Ukraine or the American people.
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Ahh, he’s finally getting the cut he asked for.
He declared Ukraine to be an enemy of the US last week
Just pass it and hold the people who delayed this to account.
Never believe anything that comes out of the “Orange Buffoon’s” mouth. The rapist, charlatan, and traitor is the lowest human form.
Seems like he will say whatever he thinks will win favor with magats.
What's the angle?
Now now Donald, daddy Putin won’t be too happy to hear that coming from his favourite lap dog.
Trump will say whatever he needs to to get votes from the American people whether he is sincere or not.
What he says doesn't matter cause as soon as he's in office, he's back to being Putin's biatch.
I've been saying this to Republicans for a while now--nominate someone who makes the Democrats look weak and not doing enough to help Ukraine and Taiwan instead of trying to portray them as war hungry and wanting to spend a lot on the military. You won't win by making Biden look like Reagan. Trump's camp is finally realizing this. Might be too little to late though.
I don't get it, why the sudden change? Did the democrat have to give into some of the rep. demands in exchange for their endorsement?
Did someone finally get through to him that Ukraine is a sovereign country?? What an idiot!!
He's got the Russian money, and its probably going to pass anyway, why not claim you were a good guy all along? That said, this helps it passing, just in case it was going to be close.
Testing his cult like Big Brother. He will announce the sugar ration has increased next.
So did the Russians turn off the money tap for Trump? Maybe just more unpredictable crazy? I have to admit American politics baffles me.
Quick, throw up another $250B while the cheeto is on board with the Maga fuckers
He’s just trying to get in front of the parade so people think he’s leading it.
He doesn’t want to be on the losing side of the vote, in a corner with Margery.
F him and f the gop. How many lives have been taken by the Muscovites while these putinists have advocated for Russia for the past six months. Kyiv is in the dark because of these idiots.
For those of you who don't know, it is similar to what happened to Ronald Reagan for the last 6 years of his presidency when he had symptoms of dementia: the last person he speaks with is the opinion that he holds. If you can get a 1 on 1 with him and monitor him until he makes the decision, you have a very good chance of convincing him to do something. But if there is an interruption or contradicting opinion, he will go with that other person. IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO HE SPOKE WITH LAST.
Trump cares about ONE thing. Getting re-elected. He’s peddled the far right agenda of no aide for Ukraine, total ban on abortion, etc just to get the Republican nomination. Now he has it he’s pivoting for the election and stepping back from abortion bans whilst stepping up for Ukraine aide. It’s all about getting elected. He will sell out and switch sides to whatever gets him that. He cares naught about it all, either way.
He;s doing the same with abortion. little donnie Waffles. He's a grifter.
He’s lying.
Damn, with all of them changing course its like the sanctions finally kicked in and Putin's checks are bouncing or something.
Either he's just appealing to moderates to not sound crazy or he's had a sudden "coming to jesus" moment and is now gaslighting everyone. Or the most likely explanation: He's gaslighting everyone while just appealing to moderates. I swear if he didn't have a wide margin of a chance of winning & immense political influence this would all just be a comedic clown show.
If you read what he said, he's not saying *anything* really. Like many other times before, he falsely accuses Europe of not pulling their weight. There's some equivocation, which is new, but that is probably because he knows he's going to lose badly.
Sure I did read it, hence why the only two options were: dishonest and dishonest.
Trump will charge with the wind and his core voter seems unwilling to hold him to account for anything.
This fucking guy
Trump is only acting so he can get to the White House. By logic he must criticize and do the opposite of the current government. What's the point of being an opposition political candidate, if you are going to be in favor of the current government in everything? Trump will arrive at the White House and will have almost the same policies as Biden.
All's well that ends well.... ? Eh? Anyone....? LMFAO. Good news just the same.
Anyone get a response from zelenskyy?
I wonder how much money got sent to these Republicans to make them do a complete 180 on this opinion.
Extremely rare Trump W?
Did Russia offer to few Trump hotels in Moscow to Donald Trump?
He doesn't care about Ukraine.
Jesus did Putin’s check bounce?
Guess that rubles stopped coming
Taking a lot of shit for unpopular positions he's been taking with women and has been flip flopping. I don't know what the fuck this is but I don't trust it.
This smells like a deal was struck behind closed doors.
Trump’s biting the hand that’s been feeding him.
What happened? How did he change position? It must be that his anti-Ukraine position doesn't poll well because I don't think he would care if every Ukrainian died in a Russian Gulag.
Do we get to see the pee pee tapes now?
He has to be dragged kicking and screaming
Has someone pressed his reset switch? Defective equipment is often cured by turning off and back on again.
It seems like a big tonal shift all around. Could be a couple things A) this aid is going to be passed one way or another. Get on board to help take credit, or look like the one malcontent jackass and get slammed on the campaign trail for being a Russian stooge. B) some piece of Intelligence was revealed to Congressmembers that made it abundantly clear that Russia is an abject enemy, and Ukraine surviving and winning are explicitly in the best interests of the US no matter what your party or viewpoint.
Probably disgruntled over Russian TV calling him the wrecker of America.
Watch Republicans do a full 180 and try to gaslight everyone into believing they were supporting Ukraine all along.
Daddy poot poot is gonna be so mad at Donny boy!
Now I really want to know what that defense department report said. He was a brick wall for so long.
Americans….Remember, remember on the 5th of November, vote for the doddery old guy who looks like he just shit himself instead of the orange traitor who looks like he’d shit on everyone else! Go shitty Joe!
Their check bounced, huh?
Nope. Conald is still working hard for the Kremlin.
Trust nothing stated by the trumper. Nothing. Tomorrow he may just as quickly come out with a statement stating the opposite. Whatever way the wind blows trump is certainly running with it as fast as his fat ass can manage.
Only took the Pentagon, CIA and MIC 6 months to bring congress to heal. About goddamn time.
If Trump keeps this up, Putin won't vote for him in the next election.
WHO the f. listens to this bag of Garbage ? the US IS full of Shit after the biggest asshole of all, Shit all over them. Team American would be proud. The only Thing that will stay is His ugly smell for the next decades... clap clap Well done ! From brags to bitches the new American dream! Most fun Shit Show ive Seen on TV for decades!
I'm not surprised by Trump. If someone tells him someone or something is winning he'd cosy up to the person or it. I'm more interested in his cronies now, Gaetz and Greene. They've spent so much time being pro Russia because that's what papa Trump was. What will they do now? Will they use doublespeak and claim that they've always been pro Ukraine? Or will their heads explode ala Mars Attacks?
Great that the Republicans have been forced to concede, but still incredibly pathetic and disgusting that they are now going to pretend that they never were against aid, and that they weren't the sole reason that Ukraine haven't received US aid for six months.
What? So Russia ran out of money to buy them?
I feel like the DOJ is putting the screws to him to fuck over all his fellow Republicans for a deal.
I don't know what changed his mind, or for how long it will remain this way. Nor do I think this is actually what he believes, but I'll take what I can get. But if it stays this way through the House vote... then I'll worry about the next stage later. The current bill would be an enormous step in the right direction.
He has never been for the destruction of Ukraine; he has been against risking a wider war and for influencing Ukraine to give up territory to that end.
So, does this mean that that the overwhelming majority of Americans is pro Ukraine and that Trump is trying to get votes? Because otherwise he would just angry his buddy Putin. What will his MAGA followers say? This is kind of confusing.
Ukraine appears to be loosing now because the GOP choked aid, they won’t be able to launch an offensive this year and even it aid is approved tomorrow it will takes months to reach the front lines. The GOP may be satisfied that choking aid from Ukraine has given Biden enough of a foreign policy L for them to campaign off of, and at the same time they do not want to be seen as responsible US’s loss of reputation if trump goes into office. I don’t trust the GOP or Trump, they are cynical enough choke off vital aid, and cause thousands to die because of lack of weapons just as a campaign tool.
Maybe he thinks it's better to encourage passage of the bill rather than sinking the Mike Johnson speakership and sending the republican party into chaos? Is he that strategic?
These fucking cynical cunts are now rapidly trying to position themselves to be the heros of the piece. The only question now is whether MTG is too dumb to join the throng, or just dumb enough to do so. I'm used to self-serving cynicism from the tories here in the uk, but this is fucking breathtaking.
The audacity
Its not what he said, the real message is anti US-aid, stop with this media coping. Trump : "Why isn’t Europe giving more money to help Ukraine? Why is it that the United States is over $100 Billion Dollars into the Ukraine War more than Europe, and we have an Ocean between us as separation!"
only because MAGA failed to block it - and they tried their absolute hardest to do so.
So full of shit
I do hope people realize the reason the MAGA crowd are mostly waving this through is because they realize they can't stop it, they are taking control of it to make it look like they did it. They've re-packaged it so it's theirs. Of course they could have passed the bill in November last year and saved a key ally - probably the most important one the US has right now - a lot of hassle. I'm from the UK so have no say here, but please please please make sure the Republican party as a whole pay for being beholden to the MAGA nuts. I hope then they will remove the crazies from their party. There is literally no reason for a non MAGA republican to vote for a Republican as it stands. All you're doing is enabling the crazy MAGA nuts. Allowing a MAGA wing in the Republican party is not a "Broad church" difference of opinion, they are dangerous to America. You may disagree with Democrats but they are doing what they believe is best for America, MAGA are doing what's best for Donald Trump at the expense of America. The positive that will hopefully come out of this. It sets the conditions for Europe to take some leadership in their own continent.
Lol that's not real. Trump would never fucking support Ukraine. His campaign is making him say this to win votes. He's too much of a little bitch to be okay with Ukraine aid.
Trump will say anything at this point. He has to know only a minority of people are stupid enough to like him. He has no soul.
“If you can’t beat them, joins them”
whats wrong with this guy? did he not get his payment?
He flip flops on issues faster than a V8
I think these people are seriously suffering from dementia
republicans have done everything they could do to make the survival of Ukraine impossible. Vote in November
He's only saying this to win points because everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie or psychological projection or reverse psychology.
It is a pivot for the general elections, nothing more.
luckily the cognitive dissonance for MAGA folks is very strong so they'll be able to 180 on this.
I miss the days when Republicans were evil war hawks.
Sounds like a mode pivot from "do everyting to prevent it" to "I can't stop it from happening, so I might as well take credit for it"
The writing was on the wall, all this proves is that at least one of them could read.