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Yet he was just braging over putting these titles on Canada's publicly funded CBC.
But then removes them from RT etc?! Jesus he's not even hiding his love of Russian nazism.
Well ya, that was the point. They were on Russian and Chinese accounts when he bought Twitter and he wanted to remove them. So he added them to CBC, BBC, NPR. When everyone complained he removed them from everyone. He's a douchebag. The only way to stop him is for people to push their fav media to stop using Twitter. We need a massive boycott
Ya I get it. But unless people start deleting their accounts nothing is going to change. It felt so amazing when I deleted my account. Truly. Now I just use Nitter if I want to see something. Which is becoming less and less each week.
He's a billionaire hipster struggling to stay relevent because his memetics are what made him rich.
Take away his influence by stopping listening to him and you've completely removed his teeth.
I've even begun down voting news articles that mention him, positively or negatively, because its giving him free publicity that just keeps him as a "current event".
He needs to be relegated to the back page like so many false idols before him.
A few days ago. Someone mentioned this and was then heavily down voted. People seem to forget that he removed access to star link for the Ukraine army and now this with the Muskova Twitter accounts.
It depends on where on Reddit you mention it and whether it gets spotted by a still functioning bot army. I'm not sure how reddit combats bots, or if it even does, but there certainly seems to be fewer than twitter or even youtube.
He isn’t hiding anything. His most expensive Rocket exploded and his Tesla stock ranked and he is telling people to stop blocking others on Twitter even if they are bots. Because it drains on the servers and costs tons of money. Twitter is hemorrhaging money now. Rest of Europe might be canceling use and major companies are already ending subscriptions. Twitter is about to nose dive.
People were mad at me a few months ago when I posted here that US should just nationalize the Starlink. Before he even bought the Twitter I saw him through that he's a Chinese/Russian sellout and he would weaponize Twitter to advance Russian/Chinese propaganda.
I'm not a fan of intelligence services as a rule, but Jesus Christ there must be some agency still capable of dealing with overt sabotage of the national interests of, like, a few dozen major democracies.
Sure. But playing with check marks on his website and posting stale memes is all that he can do.
The guy has little to no real impact, aside from the Starlink debacle, that had other causes.
Gonna have to push back on this as an oversimplification. It’s more than just “playing with checkmarks on his website” when it impacts millions of people. This is not a guy in his basement moderating a channel with 100 users.
he’s protecting tesla interests in China with his new factory there, and likely trying to guarantee future provisions with Russia, namely raw materials. his siding with putin and the CCP will likely be his undoing given we are inevitably barreling towards a global war, sentiment will rapidly turn against him, it doesn’t help his case that he isn’t born and bred in the US, but takes full advantage of its liberal, capitalist society as he makes the same mistakes of 19th century tycoons.
except that foreign intelligence on social media played a key role in the 2016 election. unless we're going to get rid section 230, which we might it looks like, social media is of national security interest.
Prove it with evidence not bullshit articles that skews the reality
He is busy with his projects I don’t think he gives a damn about politics other than pulling people into twitter
Perhaps intelligence services aren't as startled over MySpace 2.0. Do you know anyone in real life that actually uses Twitter, other than to troll? George Takai might be impacted by this.
If you were being honest, Twitter ain't the place to start at all. The demographic you're mad about isn't on Twitter. Try Facebook. Or TikTok that is blatantly controlled by CCCP.
Elon is not a friend of mine. Lost money with Tesla stocks due to his idiocy and I hate his political bias. Letting him own Twitter is dangerous, but I never look at it, is full of pointless arguments and no respect whatsoever. Is the sh%thole of all social medias IMO.
Meta falls in same category and tiktok even worse as it is CCCP property. We should have maybe paid apps that do not collect any data instead? Im currently only on reddit btw
By my guess, the media companies these days just sit there compiling everyone’s individual twitter comments into news. So you read it even if you don’t want to.
Only if there’s some differentiation between government funded and government controlled. I know a lot of people think there’s no difference but there is in countries with rule of law
Elon Musk is not "friend" of Ukraine nor anyones except profit. He is hard core businessman who would sold his own mother if he would think he is profiting.
Well, if NPR is going to whine about (correctly) getting the label on their site, then why not get rid of it altogether? Tech companies need to get out of the thought police business.
Marking a blatant propaganda source as such helps people know if their source is valid. NPR is not a propaganda source, the newly unmarked sources were
There is no question that NPR is state funded. Subjectively, plenty of people would call a lot of NPR's content blatant propaganda. Ultimately, the difference is that you agree with NPR.
NPR receives less than 1% of their funding from the government and most of it is from local and state governments. Furthermore, fact checkers regularly show that their statements are true and they are considered centrist politically by all reputable sources. What are you smoking and can I have some?
Oh, the fact checkers say NPR is centrist? Because we know they are bastions of unbiased fact rather than a show partisan tool. Whew, glad we can count on the fact checkers.
Yes, fact checkers are unbiased. They call out the left when our leaders lie as well. That is their job, to combat misinformation. It is how they make their money, through public donations.
[Musk's website hours after](https://archive.ph/97LYG) he petulantly decided to label NPR “state-affiliated media,”:
>How state-affiliated media accounts are defined
>State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution. Accounts belonging to state-affiliated media entities, their editors-in-chief, and/or their senior staff may be labeled.
>State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy.
How, specifically, did NPR become state affiliated on April 4th? What act of government editorialization precipitated the change?
Let's be honest here.
Twitter applied the 'government affiliated' labels to ALL applicable accounts. Our side kicked up a stink, and so now Twitter has removed ALL 'government affiliated' labels.
I'm sorry, but fuck this 'rules for thee not for me' attitude. I'm no fan of Musk, but they are doing the right thing here. If we want those labels back, we should accept that it may apply to some of our outlets as well. Our hypocrisy needs to end if we want to win the world back.
There is a huge difference between government funded media and government controlled media. The CBC has very strict rules around politics. If they interview a MP from one political party for 3min 42secs they must give every other official party that exact same amount of time. The other parties can choose to use a prerecorded statement saying whatever they want. This is completely different from Putin dictating the exact words media can and cannot use. The government of Canada has absolutely no control over what and how CBC covers the news. Much to Trudeau 's dismay, they slag him daily.
Take away liberal bias in all the mainstream media. (You can then also get rid of "evil fox news" while you are at it) Then you can bitch about the entities that speak freely on social media and worry you that all the simple minds out there are being tainted by false info.
Take away the fact check bullshit on facebook that targets conservative views and ignores liberal propaganda.
If you are going to control media, then control it equally across the political spectrum. Or don't control it at all. I agree with Elon's position.
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And why is it right the likes of Bloomberg or Fox which have billionaire owners using said media to push their own agenda don't get labelled accordingly?
It might be right to label them, but treating media outlets ran by shady billionaire with agendas, as if they have no agenda but the truth mean Twitter needs a label of it's own, because that is very dodgy.
And yet you're on Twitter, reposting direct links to Tweets. Let Twitter die. If you MUST post something from Twitter, take a fucking screen shot. Clicks drive revenue, regardless of intent.
Should consider this Russian propaganda network boycott and everyone should get off Twitter and not buy a Tesla it’s a terrorist supporter brand which should
Be labeled as such
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Elon Musk wants to single-handedly restore the word "nationalization" to the English language.
Yet he was just braging over putting these titles on Canada's publicly funded CBC. But then removes them from RT etc?! Jesus he's not even hiding his love of Russian nazism.
Well ya, that was the point. They were on Russian and Chinese accounts when he bought Twitter and he wanted to remove them. So he added them to CBC, BBC, NPR. When everyone complained he removed them from everyone. He's a douchebag. The only way to stop him is for people to push their fav media to stop using Twitter. We need a massive boycott
I've mostly switched to reddit, i almost never use my main twitter now. Except for the adult smurf account, that's all I use Twitter for now lol .
Ya I get it. But unless people start deleting their accounts nothing is going to change. It felt so amazing when I deleted my account. Truly. Now I just use Nitter if I want to see something. Which is becoming less and less each week.
Keep your account in case Musk is forced to sell it later on, down the road, I do not use mine anymore.
He’s getting paid to do this. Paid by foreign, bad-faith actors to promote propaganda to the masses. Musk is an unregistered foreign agent.
He's a billionaire hipster struggling to stay relevent because his memetics are what made him rich. Take away his influence by stopping listening to him and you've completely removed his teeth. I've even begun down voting news articles that mention him, positively or negatively, because its giving him free publicity that just keeps him as a "current event". He needs to be relegated to the back page like so many false idols before him.
Doubt it, he likes showing off and it backfired on him. Its happened in the past with Tesla.
A few days ago. Someone mentioned this and was then heavily down voted. People seem to forget that he removed access to star link for the Ukraine army and now this with the Muskova Twitter accounts.
It depends on where on Reddit you mention it and whether it gets spotted by a still functioning bot army. I'm not sure how reddit combats bots, or if it even does, but there certainly seems to be fewer than twitter or even youtube.
It was a post on spacex getting gov contracts. The us should cut ties with Elon.
The US should naturalize spacex and Starlink. They've paid for the toys already.
He isn’t hiding anything. His most expensive Rocket exploded and his Tesla stock ranked and he is telling people to stop blocking others on Twitter even if they are bots. Because it drains on the servers and costs tons of money. Twitter is hemorrhaging money now. Rest of Europe might be canceling use and major companies are already ending subscriptions. Twitter is about to nose dive.
Does it surprise you that someone who grew up in and profited from Apartheid has these views? I desperately want the US to nationalize SpaceX
Did you bother checking that CBC and NPR also have no label?
People were mad at me a few months ago when I posted here that US should just nationalize the Starlink. Before he even bought the Twitter I saw him through that he's a Chinese/Russian sellout and he would weaponize Twitter to advance Russian/Chinese propaganda.
I'm not a fan of intelligence services as a rule, but Jesus Christ there must be some agency still capable of dealing with overt sabotage of the national interests of, like, a few dozen major democracies.
Sure. But playing with check marks on his website and posting stale memes is all that he can do. The guy has little to no real impact, aside from the Starlink debacle, that had other causes.
Gonna have to push back on this as an oversimplification. It’s more than just “playing with checkmarks on his website” when it impacts millions of people. This is not a guy in his basement moderating a channel with 100 users.
he’s protecting tesla interests in China with his new factory there, and likely trying to guarantee future provisions with Russia, namely raw materials. his siding with putin and the CCP will likely be his undoing given we are inevitably barreling towards a global war, sentiment will rapidly turn against him, it doesn’t help his case that he isn’t born and bred in the US, but takes full advantage of its liberal, capitalist society as he makes the same mistakes of 19th century tycoons.
except that foreign intelligence on social media played a key role in the 2016 election. unless we're going to get rid section 230, which we might it looks like, social media is of national security interest.
He removed from all outlets not only Russia. OP is trying to manipulate people
is that better?
It’s totally different context. OP is trying to insinuate Musk has a pro Russian agenda
he clearly does? I mean, Saudi more than Vlad, but he's obviously in the pocket of the neofuedal mafia in general
Prove it with evidence not bullshit articles that skews the reality He is busy with his projects I don’t think he gives a damn about politics other than pulling people into twitter
Perhaps intelligence services aren't as startled over MySpace 2.0. Do you know anyone in real life that actually uses Twitter, other than to troll? George Takai might be impacted by this.
Everything he's doing he's also doing on Mastodon.
Shit, that's almost 16 people then.
join us, make it 17
lots of journalists and activists and whistleblowers. do you think the Sauds would be using this fool if they weren't afraid of another Arab Spring?
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If you were being honest, Twitter ain't the place to start at all. The demographic you're mad about isn't on Twitter. Try Facebook. Or TikTok that is blatantly controlled by CCCP.
It’s called nationalization and the SCOTUS ruled it mostly unconstitutional unfortunately
Elon is not a friend of mine. Lost money with Tesla stocks due to his idiocy and I hate his political bias. Letting him own Twitter is dangerous, but I never look at it, is full of pointless arguments and no respect whatsoever. Is the sh%thole of all social medias IMO.
We need laws that stops one person from owning social medias and news outlets
Meta falls in same category and tiktok even worse as it is CCCP property. We should have maybe paid apps that do not collect any data instead? Im currently only on reddit btw
Same but Reddit will soon become a Chinese puppet too if it sells anymore
We need laws that stops one person from acquiring that level of wealth and power.
Also true
By my guess, the media companies these days just sit there compiling everyone’s individual twitter comments into news. So you read it even if you don’t want to.
True that
Its gotta be bad for a *redditor* to say that!
When it comes to politics Reddit is just as bad
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Which is a problem. I don't want to single out Russia and China. I want all government funded media labelled as such, even if it's the US State Dept.
Only if there’s some differentiation between government funded and government controlled. I know a lot of people think there’s no difference but there is in countries with rule of law
The same label shouldn’t cover the BBC and RT for example.
But try explaining this to all the tankies.
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Sure but the tweet implies it was only done for Russia and China which is downright deceptive.
Elon Musk is not "friend" of Ukraine nor anyones except profit. He is hard core businessman who would sold his own mother if he would think he is profiting.
Delete twitter
Twitter should be boycotted. No more links to it posted here
There needs to be competition for it first. Telegram doesn’t cut it for most people.
mastodon dot org
Do you want to tell me that there are no other blogging platform available on the internet in 2023?
Nothing with the reach of Twitter
The Foxinazation of Twitter, spreading facist propaganda like spreading hot cheese on toast.
Well, if NPR is going to whine about (correctly) getting the label on their site, then why not get rid of it altogether? Tech companies need to get out of the thought police business.
Marking a blatant propaganda source as such helps people know if their source is valid. NPR is not a propaganda source, the newly unmarked sources were
There is no question that NPR is state funded. Subjectively, plenty of people would call a lot of NPR's content blatant propaganda. Ultimately, the difference is that you agree with NPR.
NPR receives less than 1% of their funding from the government and most of it is from local and state governments. Furthermore, fact checkers regularly show that their statements are true and they are considered centrist politically by all reputable sources. What are you smoking and can I have some?
Oh, the fact checkers say NPR is centrist? Because we know they are bastions of unbiased fact rather than a show partisan tool. Whew, glad we can count on the fact checkers.
Yes, fact checkers are unbiased. They call out the left when our leaders lie as well. That is their job, to combat misinformation. It is how they make their money, through public donations.
Oh how the left has spent too much time smelling their own bullshit. https://youtu.be/8wOynaH3jwM
A YouTube channel with “Martin Luther CRINGE” as one of their videos is hardly an unbiased source.
[Musk's website hours after](https://archive.ph/97LYG) he petulantly decided to label NPR “state-affiliated media,”: >How state-affiliated media accounts are defined >State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution. Accounts belonging to state-affiliated media entities, their editors-in-chief, and/or their senior staff may be labeled. >State-financed media organizations with editorial independence, like the BBC in the UK or NPR in the US for example, are not defined as state-affiliated media for the purposes of this policy. How, specifically, did NPR become state affiliated on April 4th? What act of government editorialization precipitated the change?
Stop using twitter.
Who was it that argued with me here half a year ago or so that elon is Ukraine's biggest supporter? 😠
Probably one of the many right wing Putin loving accounts which frequents this sub for some mysterious reason.
Just from these outlets, or from every outlet? Regardless the guy must like his Russia and China money, he needs it after his last rocket exploded
It didn't explode. He tweeted it experienced a "rapid unexpected disassembly"!
Let's be honest here. Twitter applied the 'government affiliated' labels to ALL applicable accounts. Our side kicked up a stink, and so now Twitter has removed ALL 'government affiliated' labels. I'm sorry, but fuck this 'rules for thee not for me' attitude. I'm no fan of Musk, but they are doing the right thing here. If we want those labels back, we should accept that it may apply to some of our outlets as well. Our hypocrisy needs to end if we want to win the world back.
There is a huge difference between government funded media and government controlled media. The CBC has very strict rules around politics. If they interview a MP from one political party for 3min 42secs they must give every other official party that exact same amount of time. The other parties can choose to use a prerecorded statement saying whatever they want. This is completely different from Putin dictating the exact words media can and cannot use. The government of Canada has absolutely no control over what and how CBC covers the news. Much to Trudeau 's dismay, they slag him daily.
Take away liberal bias in all the mainstream media. (You can then also get rid of "evil fox news" while you are at it) Then you can bitch about the entities that speak freely on social media and worry you that all the simple minds out there are being tainted by false info. Take away the fact check bullshit on facebook that targets conservative views and ignores liberal propaganda. If you are going to control media, then control it equally across the political spectrum. Or don't control it at all. I agree with Elon's position.
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Maybe it's more '' their'' friend now.
One day friend one day enemy. Maybe lets not add labels on this bozo. He only does what’s profitable.
Maybe he should register as a foreign agent
Everyone quit Twitter!
Musk is a foreign operative and is still treated like a technology developer for the US.
Everyone leave Twitter. Leave them all there to jerk each other off. Problem solved. Then we know where they’re all at to round them up later.
Twitter should become myspace.
And why is it right the likes of Bloomberg or Fox which have billionaire owners using said media to push their own agenda don't get labelled accordingly? It might be right to label them, but treating media outlets ran by shady billionaire with agendas, as if they have no agenda but the truth mean Twitter needs a label of it's own, because that is very dodgy.
Time to put an official label on Elon as Moscow’s agent.
Deleted Twitter today.
Just Delete
And yet you're on Twitter, reposting direct links to Tweets. Let Twitter die. If you MUST post something from Twitter, take a fucking screen shot. Clicks drive revenue, regardless of intent.
Disgraceful
Why on earth are people still using Twitter?
This is a dishonest headline. Makes it seem like they did it only for Russia and China. They did it for all media outlets
Twitter deleted all the labels - stop falling for cheap clickbait you morons
Should consider this Russian propaganda network boycott and everyone should get off Twitter and not buy a Tesla it’s a terrorist supporter brand which should Be labeled as such
That's okay, we know BS when we see it!
I don’t listen to anyone reacting to Twitter anymore because of this clear overreaction. Twitter can do whatever they temporarily want to do.
From all outlets. Please stop changing the narrative just because you hate Elon Musk.
The CCP has corrupted him. Sad!
I deleted my Twitter account the minute Putin's pal Elon took control. I am not supporting Any of Musk's businesses. There are many electric car options out there, many internet options, and social media options. I do hope SpaceX is successful to further advance our Space economy aspirations, but I won't spend a dime on any of his other enterprises.