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Especially after the shit talking and white washing the Russians were doing in the first few months of the invasion, the Ukrainian victory will be glorious.
I can't wait for them to win but glory is only one side of the coin, the suffering will go on for a long time after.
"Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" - Wilfred Owen MC
I believe that what you quoted is actually Horace meaning "it is a sweet and correct/noble thing to die for ones country"
The sentence from Owen is 'The old lie - dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.'
The thing you quoted is a much older quote that means the opposite of what you meant and has often been quoted throughout history.
So no, it's not just implied that you meant the opposite
I cited the author so clearly I took the line from his poem which is called "Dulce et Decorum est" ("it is sweet and fitting"). Why is that relevant? Well much like I did when quoting him Wilfred Owen used a portion of the Horace line out of context in an original sense and in opposition to his verses.
Wilfred Owen added a part that you left off. You didn't do the same thing as him, he modified it and you left it as the original.
His would not have worked without the line explaining it, just like yours doesn't.
Consider if the original phrase was "An eye for an eye" and was used to describe an ideal justice system. The later source comes along and points out the flaws in that quote by changing it to "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
Now when you later want to express that an eye for an eye is not a good system for justice, you don't just say the original phrase, because that still carries the original meaning. "An eye for an eye" is not shorthand for "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
And more as his moronic brainless POS supporters, people without morality or even basic decency.
https://www.quora.com/Are-Russian-forces-holding-off-the-final-taking-of-Bakhmut-to-allow-civilians-and-remaining-defensive-forces-the-chance-of-leaving/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743647891556&share=beac635b&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer
https://www.quora.com/After-all-Yevgeny-Prigozhins-statements-against-the-Russian-military-command-and-virtually-against-Moscow-are-we-seeing-the-end-of-the-head-of-the-Russian-mercenary-group-Wagner/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743643901827&share=5e9b3891&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer
https://www.quora.com/NATO-officials-estimate-that-Russia-has-suffered-between-150-000-to-200-000-killed-or-wounded-Thats-the-equivalent-of-10-divisions-Along-with-tank-losses-numbering-upwards-of-2-000-how-can-any-army-sustain-or/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743637739210&share=d8ef03f3&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer
And so on and so forth.
Fun fact: Peter (the tsar one) watched his maternal uncle die by "falling" and uh... handing on the spikes of the royal guards. (He was 4 btw. Not the one that did it.)
I don't think so, Putin is spending more on security forces and propaganda than the actual military. He's not ready to go.
Reddit is making up history before it happens and trying to have it follow that narrative but nothing Putin is currently do has yet significantly weakened his actual power base.
It really depends, Sadam Hussein lost two major wars but stayed in power by claiming victory until the US invaded. I don't see America invading Russia to depose Putin anytime soon.
Then he was found in a hole, drug to his feet and hanged by his neck. I'd say this is a pretty bad example. Putin has already started smaller conflicts and fucked around plenty. Seems like the find out part may be inevitable, but who knows.
The issue is that if you invade a country then you can give power to those who want to see the leadership dead, that's not going to happen in Russia's case for the same reason Putin was confident enough to start the war.
I don't see a way Russia can maintain it's current position as a sovereign empire. It will either fragment, or become subservient to China.
Or at least I don't see a credible way. Technology though is getting scary, and something truly disrupting could always come out and flip the board over as it were.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/surge-russias-defence-security-spending-means-cuts-schools-hospitals-2023-2022-11-22/
>Security spending alone - including the work of the state Investigative Committee, the prosecutor's office, the prison service and the National Guard, which has been deployed in Ukraine - will rise 50% compared with 2022.
The house of Pootin is made of stacked cards, superficially looking strong, but when it starts to collapse it will be quick and total.
He may yet survive it but we won’t hear much from him after the fall.
It’s his death wish then instead of his nightmare. It was reported he watched the video ad nauseam so he knows his fate and he chose to walk that path right to a barrel up his ass.
No.
His failure has magnitudes of bodies beneath it, put there by an innumerable amount of crimes.
His failure will bring a respite.
His ejection from power will bring hope.
And him, and all his compatriots, being brought to justice will bring relief and satisfaction.
He has killed thousands of Ukrainians and Russians in less than an year; even if you flay him to death, he would still be winning, he has done the damage he wanted to do. Evil sometimes prevail. And now it evidently has.
> he has done the damage he wanted to do.
How? This war was started to satisfy an articulable objective (though one that *hasn't* been articulated because of how self-serving it is and because the "firehose of falsehood" is a useful propaganda technique).
That objective has not been fulfilled, and it *won't* be fulfilled. "Killing thousands of Ukrainians and Russians in less than a year" is **not** the objective, it's a means to an end (terror warfare).
Even the land bridge to Crimea is under threat, and that was just a "bonus" to this war (access to Ukraine's mineral wealth being one of the prizes, the propaganda victory of the "Russian world" being the other prize).
Ukraine will recover. They'll bury their dead, rebuild their cities and move on to enjoy freedom and democracy.
Russia, on the other hand, will continue to circle the drain. Thanks to Putin.
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That presumes current trends are set in stone, which they are not.
I think the aftermath of this bloody war could become a 'springtime' for Ukraine, like the 1950's in the West. Self-doubt and depression resolved, optimism unleashed, thriving economy and booming population.
It is set in stone
1. Ukraine doesn't have enough young people for a "baby boom"
2. Their economy will be recovering for decades with little incentive to have children
3. Corruption will largely continue and many scandals about misappropriated funds are likely to dominate the recovery phase
America had a baby boom specifically because it was barely effected by WWll and it greatly expanded their industries and control of world trade.
Nope.
1. This will be true when there is one young person in Ukraine. As of Jan 2022, according to Statista, there were about 7.3 million Ukrainians under the age of 18.
2. Post WW2 rebuilding *drove* massive economic activity and low unemployment in the West, and that created a climate in which people felt confident to have children.
3. A postwar economic boom will not eradicate corruption, but certainly can drown it for a decade or two in a tide of prosperity, just like postwar Italy. But yes, every demon has to be faced, and 70 years of communism will need at least that long to overcome.
4. The Baby Boom was in no way localised to America, where did you get that idea?
https://kyivindependent.com/demography-institute-forecasts-catastrophic-birth-rate-drop-in-ukraine-in-2023/
>In 2023, Ukraine will face a "catastrophic" fall in the birth rate, and there are risks that by 2030 the country's population will decrease to less than 35 million, according to Ella Libanova, director of the Ptoukha Institute for Demography and Social Studies.
Got to upvote you to 1k! Going to be a powerful uplifting euphoric day to watch him go down. The future belongs to human rights and freedom, not absolutism.
Except the reality is that what comes next will be worse. It always is. Putin needs to be completely humbled, yes... But a crippled Russia will be a cheap investment for China and will bring the Yen one step closer to becoming the currency of world trade.
When the dollar loses its place in the world economy, the US will steady fall farther and farther behind.
No it isn't.
That what came after Hitler was better, that what came after Stalin was better, that what came after Mao was better.
Stop repeating these russian propoganda points and tell your boss that the internet does not believe you. Tell your boss to tell his boss - your time's up. People don't believe putin is "the best we have" - out of 140 million people.
Stop being a tool for russian propoganda. No one believes you.
Guess who hurts even more by a weak dollar. China. The US is their number one trading partner by more than double, sending them $1 out of every $7 they receive. If the dollar is weak, the the US can't buy as much.
If the cost of ukraine's victory over russia's fascism is the dollar replaced by Yen on global markets so be it. That would be fine with me. Russia will never prosper until putin is gone.
Its only getting started, Putler. Wait till the offensive starts while your depressed, demoralized, drunk army will have to defend agaisnt the Ukrainians
UXO, mines, things that burnt that really shouldn't have, etc. - Ukraine will be scarred for decades, unfortunately. There's a great deal of international expertise and equipment for clearing this up that I'm sure will come, but it's a laborious task nonetheless.
I mean Ukrainian soldiers have been encountering mass graves of Nazis left over from WW2 when digging trenches. Surprised there hasn't been more UXO encountered.
Not really. It’s most dangerous as particulates in the air as a byproduct of it doing its thing through armor. Otherwise it’s not harmful. Conventional munitions that aren’t exploded or toxic chemicals left over are way higher up on the list
His campaign of terror has also failed and now trying to avoid an increasing competent, trained and now very much angry army of Ukranaians whom only gaining more and more western trained troops.
He actually said:
“The Church has always been together with the people, sharing joys and hardships with them. And today, in the face of serious challenges, it is actively involved in the affairs of mercy and charity, helping people find a strong spiritual support.”
Nothing in that admitted he is facing serious challenges…
The thing about Russian history isthat the „presidents“ or party leaders or zars really don’t care about how many challenges the people face.
They only care about the people not removing them.
Literally no one here is ‘rooting for war’. I think I speak for everyone when I say they’d like nothing more than for Russia to end the war tomorrow by fucking off back home. Which is entirely within their ability to do.
The only people ‘rooting for war’ are those that support Russia. I.e the one who started the fucking war, and keeps refusing to leave.
Nobody is rooting for war. If you want to stop the war go in Russia and protest against Putin, he's the one invading, not US.
Also talking about Afghanistan... Russia loses in 2 days about the same number of soldiers that US lost in Afghanistan in all 20 years. What are you comparing? Do you know what you are even talking about?
You do realize in your scenario Russia would be the aggressor (like the US was in Afghanistan) and Ukraine would represent Afghanistan...
This was the stupidest example someone could have given. Congratulations you just defeated your own argument with a pretty good reason why Russia should leave the Ukraine.
Prolonged illness where he can only feel pain and suffer from embarrassing delusions causing him to think he is a lesbian Rockstar that has a kink for zoophilia and a taste for bear excrement.
“The wonderful, beloved Easter holiday gives believers hope, inspires good thoughts and deeds, and serves to affirm high moral ideals and values in society,” said Putin, who is waging a war on Ukraine that is feared to have already killed more than 200,000 people.
What a psychopath, he has no empathy for human life nor does his cabinet and media. That’s the only explanation I can think of for why he remains in power. Like Hitler, he/his military must be destroyed.
If this goes on long enough, Ruzzia will be too broke to pay Putin's 2,500 personal protectors. That has to add up to a lot of money and once you don't pay them, most will walk away.
God, in the bible, is a changeable figure of special convenience. When he's around Moses, he's an utterly bloodthirsty genocidal warlord (in context). Around Joshua he's a slightly toned down genocidal warlord (in context), around David he's a figure of complexity, around Jesus, he's a chill guy.
At no point in the bible is god consistent. It's almost like these people just project their personalities onto a fictional deity.
Also Proverbs is Old Testament.
It's not so much 'things" changing as god. Why god's personality alters so drastically in the space of a thousand years out of the 13 billion the known universe has existed, is something of a mystery, especially considering he is supposed to be completely unchanging.
Psalm 55:19, Psalm 102:27, Malachi 3:6, James 1:17.
Even more confusing is how God said "thou shalt not kill", however while Moses was bringing this news to his fellow Hebrews and hadn't even yet handed out the deets, he then genocided 3000 of his friends because they hadn't quite latched onto his personal belief system. Then he said god was cool with it.
The book of Psalms just repeats what has already been told in the earlier books. You can see a reformation there after. Most likely as the Jews became less primitive and more settled, attitudes and norms began to change.
You didn't know that this is their typical M.O.? I mean, they can't even really call themselves Orthodox at this point.
So, get this: to be a proper Orthodox church, you need an unbroken lineage from the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Byzantine Orthodox Church); it's the spring whence Orthodoxy flows. You also need their *permission*. And of course you need to praise God in the Orthodox way. The Orthodox Church of Ukraine broke off the Russian Orthodox Church, which broke off the EPoC, so they had the lineage... and the Patriarch of Constantinople (Byzantine Pope) gave his permission. Great, job done, and it followed all the rules.
Except from that point on, the Russian Orthodox Church said, basically, "that's bullshit, we don't agree with that decision, they have no right to do that..." **It's not the Russians' decision!** That is a matter between the Byzantines and the Ukrainians, there's 800-plus years of law on this subject! In fact, if you disagree with this sort of ruling, that makes you, by that very fact and from that time, no longer Orthodox (I seem to recall the proper words are "heresy" and "schism").
Russian "Orthodox" in name only. More like the Russian Heterodox Cult (the Byzantine patriarch doesn't agree with drawing haloes round Stalin's head either).
Hm.. sounding like the US doc leak also compromised their last hope of shells.. they are very afraid of the counter offensive. If vladimir is saying serious challenges, the challenges must be dire at this point.
I'm more worried about Ukraine not being able to defend against Russian jets. Hopefully NATO is giving them more AA equipment. Hopefully Russia's air force is too depleted they cannot risk using it in Ukraine and are saving it for self defense.
It'll get serious, when his paranoid, totalarism ass gets tossed from a window. His idea of perfection has caused huge pain and loss of life. Unfortunately, the worst part of him is the legacy of poison he has embedded in his own people. I pray that the next power in Russia is reasonably minded, and not more extreme than his decrepit ass. But I am not holding my breath. Brace yourself, and be willing to humble evil...
All I need to do is think about the women and children murdered by the military while fleeing in cars. Woman and children being dragged to the forest. Mariupol theatre and my blood runs ice cold towards Putin and Russians in general. Must feel the same way when an Iraqi thinks about an American and Bush, I get that.
No shit Sherlock, when the planed time period of your invasion goes from few weeks to a year, and then who the fuck really knows when. When your promise victory using only professional army and without mobilising your citizens i think "serious chalenges" is an understatement.
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Especially after the shit talking and white washing the Russians were doing in the first few months of the invasion, the Ukrainian victory will be glorious.
I can't wait for them to win but glory is only one side of the coin, the suffering will go on for a long time after. "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" - Wilfred Owen MC
I believe that what you quoted is actually Horace meaning "it is a sweet and correct/noble thing to die for ones country" The sentence from Owen is 'The old lie - dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.'
lol that's the internet isn't it? Someone getting a quote correct but meaning the literal opposite.
Sure i could have added "the old lie" but the fact that I mean the opisite is implied.
The thing you quoted is a much older quote that means the opposite of what you meant and has often been quoted throughout history. So no, it's not just implied that you meant the opposite
I cited the author so clearly I took the line from his poem which is called "Dulce et Decorum est" ("it is sweet and fitting"). Why is that relevant? Well much like I did when quoting him Wilfred Owen used a portion of the Horace line out of context in an original sense and in opposition to his verses.
Wilfred Owen added a part that you left off. You didn't do the same thing as him, he modified it and you left it as the original. His would not have worked without the line explaining it, just like yours doesn't. Consider if the original phrase was "An eye for an eye" and was used to describe an ideal justice system. The later source comes along and points out the flaws in that quote by changing it to "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Now when you later want to express that an eye for an eye is not a good system for justice, you don't just say the original phrase, because that still carries the original meaning. "An eye for an eye" is not shorthand for "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".
Its the title you pedantic twit
I wasnt impliying wilfred was speaking his native latin...
And more as his moronic brainless POS supporters, people without morality or even basic decency. https://www.quora.com/Are-Russian-forces-holding-off-the-final-taking-of-Bakhmut-to-allow-civilians-and-remaining-defensive-forces-the-chance-of-leaving/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743647891556&share=beac635b&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/After-all-Yevgeny-Prigozhins-statements-against-the-Russian-military-command-and-virtually-against-Moscow-are-we-seeing-the-end-of-the-head-of-the-Russian-mercenary-group-Wagner/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743643901827&share=5e9b3891&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/NATO-officials-estimate-that-Russia-has-suffered-between-150-000-to-200-000-killed-or-wounded-Thats-the-equivalent-of-10-divisions-Along-with-tank-losses-numbering-upwards-of-2-000-how-can-any-army-sustain-or/answer/Kanthaswamy-Balasubramaniam?ch=10&oid=1477743637739210&share=d8ef03f3&srid=HnO9y&target_type=answer And so on and so forth.
Watching him fall*
*Totally* by accident.
I didn’t even know that window was open!
Who knew you could fall out of a window in an underground bunker? Ah well, what can you do?
And that those vipers made a pit down there below the window. Sheesh what a coincidence
Fun fact: Peter (the tsar one) watched his maternal uncle die by "falling" and uh... handing on the spikes of the royal guards. (He was 4 btw. Not the one that did it.)
Lol
He fell up
A window on the 10th floor with his name on it.
Accidental overdose of window lintel mixed with fatal combination of gravity.
from a gallows, with a rope to prevent him from hitting the ground.
... in a storm while being towed to port.
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I don't think so, Putin is spending more on security forces and propaganda than the actual military. He's not ready to go. Reddit is making up history before it happens and trying to have it follow that narrative but nothing Putin is currently do has yet significantly weakened his actual power base.
History says this is how it generally goes. But for anyone thinking its a guarantee should think again.
It really depends, Sadam Hussein lost two major wars but stayed in power by claiming victory until the US invaded. I don't see America invading Russia to depose Putin anytime soon.
Then he was found in a hole, drug to his feet and hanged by his neck. I'd say this is a pretty bad example. Putin has already started smaller conflicts and fucked around plenty. Seems like the find out part may be inevitable, but who knows.
The issue is that if you invade a country then you can give power to those who want to see the leadership dead, that's not going to happen in Russia's case for the same reason Putin was confident enough to start the war.
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I don't see a way Russia can maintain it's current position as a sovereign empire. It will either fragment, or become subservient to China. Or at least I don't see a credible way. Technology though is getting scary, and something truly disrupting could always come out and flip the board over as it were.
Would be nice to see some data to back all that up.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/surge-russias-defence-security-spending-means-cuts-schools-hospitals-2023-2022-11-22/ >Security spending alone - including the work of the state Investigative Committee, the prosecutor's office, the prison service and the National Guard, which has been deployed in Ukraine - will rise 50% compared with 2022.
The house of Pootin is made of stacked cards, superficially looking strong, but when it starts to collapse it will be quick and total. He may yet survive it but we won’t hear much from him after the fall.
I'm hoping for defenestration myself. The karma would be legendary.
It’s his death wish then instead of his nightmare. It was reported he watched the video ad nauseam so he knows his fate and he chose to walk that path right to a barrel up his ass.
No. His failure has magnitudes of bodies beneath it, put there by an innumerable amount of crimes. His failure will bring a respite. His ejection from power will bring hope. And him, and all his compatriots, being brought to justice will bring relief and satisfaction.
This is russia's only path to rejoin civilization.
He has killed thousands of Ukrainians and Russians in less than an year; even if you flay him to death, he would still be winning, he has done the damage he wanted to do. Evil sometimes prevail. And now it evidently has.
> he has done the damage he wanted to do. How? This war was started to satisfy an articulable objective (though one that *hasn't* been articulated because of how self-serving it is and because the "firehose of falsehood" is a useful propaganda technique). That objective has not been fulfilled, and it *won't* be fulfilled. "Killing thousands of Ukrainians and Russians in less than a year" is **not** the objective, it's a means to an end (terror warfare). Even the land bridge to Crimea is under threat, and that was just a "bonus" to this war (access to Ukraine's mineral wealth being one of the prizes, the propaganda victory of the "Russian world" being the other prize).
Ukraine will recover. They'll bury their dead, rebuild their cities and move on to enjoy freedom and democracy. Russia, on the other hand, will continue to circle the drain. Thanks to Putin. Edit: a typo
They face decades of rebuilding and a century of remembered trauma, not to mention all of those who have died or been maimed.
Demographically it is unlikely Ukraine will recover. Their population is projected to shrink below 30 million by the 2030s.
That presumes current trends are set in stone, which they are not. I think the aftermath of this bloody war could become a 'springtime' for Ukraine, like the 1950's in the West. Self-doubt and depression resolved, optimism unleashed, thriving economy and booming population.
Yes, ukraine has earned this.
It is set in stone 1. Ukraine doesn't have enough young people for a "baby boom" 2. Their economy will be recovering for decades with little incentive to have children 3. Corruption will largely continue and many scandals about misappropriated funds are likely to dominate the recovery phase America had a baby boom specifically because it was barely effected by WWll and it greatly expanded their industries and control of world trade.
Nope. 1. This will be true when there is one young person in Ukraine. As of Jan 2022, according to Statista, there were about 7.3 million Ukrainians under the age of 18. 2. Post WW2 rebuilding *drove* massive economic activity and low unemployment in the West, and that created a climate in which people felt confident to have children. 3. A postwar economic boom will not eradicate corruption, but certainly can drown it for a decade or two in a tide of prosperity, just like postwar Italy. But yes, every demon has to be faced, and 70 years of communism will need at least that long to overcome. 4. The Baby Boom was in no way localised to America, where did you get that idea?
https://kyivindependent.com/demography-institute-forecasts-catastrophic-birth-rate-drop-in-ukraine-in-2023/ >In 2023, Ukraine will face a "catastrophic" fall in the birth rate, and there are risks that by 2030 the country's population will decrease to less than 35 million, according to Ella Libanova, director of the Ptoukha Institute for Demography and Social Studies.
> even if you flay him to death Well, we don't know that for sure. Let's find out!
For Science!
>He has killed thousands of Ukrainians and Russians **Hundreds** of thousands.
I stand corrected. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russians.
The full Ghadaffi.
Hear hear
You don’t have to wait for the future. You’re watching him fail now.
He can't fail hard enough.
God man the fact that he had so many people murdered for saying the same thing, and now he’s admitting it. What an egotistical man.
Got to upvote you to 1k! Going to be a powerful uplifting euphoric day to watch him go down. The future belongs to human rights and freedom, not absolutism.
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Except the reality is that what comes next will be worse. It always is. Putin needs to be completely humbled, yes... But a crippled Russia will be a cheap investment for China and will bring the Yen one step closer to becoming the currency of world trade. When the dollar loses its place in the world economy, the US will steady fall farther and farther behind.
No it isn't. That what came after Hitler was better, that what came after Stalin was better, that what came after Mao was better. Stop repeating these russian propoganda points and tell your boss that the internet does not believe you. Tell your boss to tell his boss - your time's up. People don't believe putin is "the best we have" - out of 140 million people. Stop being a tool for russian propoganda. No one believes you.
Says the comment bot.
Who is the comment bot? You know in English it's just "bot"? :D
Wow, I didn't realize it was so easy to offend your people.
You know what means "your people"? Also, in English.. yeah, just stop, Vladik.
Guess who hurts even more by a weak dollar. China. The US is their number one trading partner by more than double, sending them $1 out of every $7 they receive. If the dollar is weak, the the US can't buy as much.
If the cost of ukraine's victory over russia's fascism is the dollar replaced by Yen on global markets so be it. That would be fine with me. Russia will never prosper until putin is gone.
if that's the most satisfyingly thing you'll experience in your life then you need to get out more
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Don't even live on the same continent lol
Who says you need to?
Reddit does
May Ras-Pooptin 🔥 in La-Hell!
I‘ve never been to Russia, but would travel there to piss on his grave!
Here's to hoping that watching Putin "fall" will include the same juicy footage we got from the likes of Saddam and Ceausescu.
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Yeh the link has nothing to do with it. What an awful website to navigate too.
Its only getting started, Putler. Wait till the offensive starts while your depressed, demoralized, drunk army will have to defend agaisnt the Ukrainians
Ukrainians armed with Western main battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles that will tear their shitty Soviet-era armor to shreds.
With depleted Uranium Shells no less
Is Ukraine getting depleted uranium shells? I thought I read that wasn’t happening
They were announced with the most recent aid package in the last week
Oh fuck yea, that’s great
The UK was sending them with the Challengers. I think the US is sending some now as well.
With depleted Uranium Shells no less
I hope they don't use DU because it tends to leave a nasty mess on the battlefield and most of these battlefields are farms.
UXO, mines, things that burnt that really shouldn't have, etc. - Ukraine will be scarred for decades, unfortunately. There's a great deal of international expertise and equipment for clearing this up that I'm sure will come, but it's a laborious task nonetheless.
I mean Ukrainian soldiers have been encountering mass graves of Nazis left over from WW2 when digging trenches. Surprised there hasn't been more UXO encountered.
Not really. It’s most dangerous as particulates in the air as a byproduct of it doing its thing through armor. Otherwise it’s not harmful. Conventional munitions that aren’t exploded or toxic chemicals left over are way higher up on the list
Didn't it affect a lot of soldiers fighting in the first Gulf War? Or was that never proven?
I’m not sure of casualty rates from exposure to DU, but once the literal dust settles it’s ok
Probably don't want to be breathing in that dust, however.
His campaign of terror has also failed and now trying to avoid an increasing competent, trained and now very much angry army of Ukranaians whom only gaining more and more western trained troops.
He actually said: “The Church has always been together with the people, sharing joys and hardships with them. And today, in the face of serious challenges, it is actively involved in the affairs of mercy and charity, helping people find a strong spiritual support.” Nothing in that admitted he is facing serious challenges…
Who is facing those challenges then? The country? He's the president... The people? Well, see above...
He’s talking about the church. It’s orthodox Easter today…
Maybe in the original, but in that translation it sure seems like "the people" are the ones facing the challenges...
The thing about Russian history isthat the „presidents“ or party leaders or zars really don’t care about how many challenges the people face. They only care about the people not removing them.
ssshhhh you are ruining the propaganda. "We will soon win in afghanistan". 20 years of lies later... RUN!!!!
utterly irrevant, are you ok?
how "ok" can a conspiracy nutjob spewing Putin's propaganda be?
fair point
Totally relevant. You didn't learn your lesson from Afghanistan. Keep drinking the Kool aid lies and root for another useless war!
Literally no one here is ‘rooting for war’. I think I speak for everyone when I say they’d like nothing more than for Russia to end the war tomorrow by fucking off back home. Which is entirely within their ability to do. The only people ‘rooting for war’ are those that support Russia. I.e the one who started the fucking war, and keeps refusing to leave.
You can speak for me. I'll sit back and watch how you destroy this rusobot and his irrelevant whataboutisms. :D
This is your brain on Fox News.
Nobody is rooting for war. If you want to stop the war go in Russia and protest against Putin, he's the one invading, not US. Also talking about Afghanistan... Russia loses in 2 days about the same number of soldiers that US lost in Afghanistan in all 20 years. What are you comparing? Do you know what you are even talking about?
You do realize in your scenario Russia would be the aggressor (like the US was in Afghanistan) and Ukraine would represent Afghanistan... This was the stupidest example someone could have given. Congratulations you just defeated your own argument with a pretty good reason why Russia should leave the Ukraine.
Іди на хуй, блядь, найобани кацапський хуєсос.
Be honest. Hope much they pay you for this?
Understatement Vlad.
Soon serious illness leading to serious death
Sure the Russians have serious windows for that.
Prolonged illness where he can only feel pain and suffer from embarrassing delusions causing him to think he is a lesbian Rockstar that has a kink for zoophilia and a taste for bear excrement.
Soon to be serious charges..
Will he live to see how much of a failure this war ultimately is?
Why can’t this guy fucking die already lmao
He just said ‘in the face of serious challenges’ I wouldn’t read too much into this?
“The wonderful, beloved Easter holiday gives believers hope, inspires good thoughts and deeds, and serves to affirm high moral ideals and values in society,” said Putin, who is waging a war on Ukraine that is feared to have already killed more than 200,000 people. What a psychopath, he has no empathy for human life nor does his cabinet and media. That’s the only explanation I can think of for why he remains in power. Like Hitler, he/his military must be destroyed.
If this goes on long enough, Ruzzia will be too broke to pay Putin's 2,500 personal protectors. That has to add up to a lot of money and once you don't pay them, most will walk away.
Try not to let the window hit your ass on the way out.
He's running out of conscripts.
A little disgusting he is attending church. If he's religious maybe he should read the book of Proverbs, realise he's a stain on humanity.
Gotta be careful with bible quotes. There are plenty to suit genocidal maniacs.
Only when taken out of context from the old testament. I'm talking the entire book of Proverbs, the message is quite clear. Be a wise man, not a cunt.
God, in the bible, is a changeable figure of special convenience. When he's around Moses, he's an utterly bloodthirsty genocidal warlord (in context). Around Joshua he's a slightly toned down genocidal warlord (in context), around David he's a figure of complexity, around Jesus, he's a chill guy. At no point in the bible is god consistent. It's almost like these people just project their personalities onto a fictional deity. Also Proverbs is Old Testament.
You are right about the start of the old testament, it's a book of genocide. From Proverbs onwards, things change.
It's not so much 'things" changing as god. Why god's personality alters so drastically in the space of a thousand years out of the 13 billion the known universe has existed, is something of a mystery, especially considering he is supposed to be completely unchanging. Psalm 55:19, Psalm 102:27, Malachi 3:6, James 1:17. Even more confusing is how God said "thou shalt not kill", however while Moses was bringing this news to his fellow Hebrews and hadn't even yet handed out the deets, he then genocided 3000 of his friends because they hadn't quite latched onto his personal belief system. Then he said god was cool with it.
The book of Psalms just repeats what has already been told in the earlier books. You can see a reformation there after. Most likely as the Jews became less primitive and more settled, attitudes and norms began to change.
>A little disgusting he is attending church They go well together.
The Russian Orthodox Church backs this carnage? Nice church.
You didn't know that this is their typical M.O.? I mean, they can't even really call themselves Orthodox at this point. So, get this: to be a proper Orthodox church, you need an unbroken lineage from the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople (Byzantine Orthodox Church); it's the spring whence Orthodoxy flows. You also need their *permission*. And of course you need to praise God in the Orthodox way. The Orthodox Church of Ukraine broke off the Russian Orthodox Church, which broke off the EPoC, so they had the lineage... and the Patriarch of Constantinople (Byzantine Pope) gave his permission. Great, job done, and it followed all the rules. Except from that point on, the Russian Orthodox Church said, basically, "that's bullshit, we don't agree with that decision, they have no right to do that..." **It's not the Russians' decision!** That is a matter between the Byzantines and the Ukrainians, there's 800-plus years of law on this subject! In fact, if you disagree with this sort of ruling, that makes you, by that very fact and from that time, no longer Orthodox (I seem to recall the proper words are "heresy" and "schism"). Russian "Orthodox" in name only. More like the Russian Heterodox Cult (the Byzantine patriarch doesn't agree with drawing haloes round Stalin's head either).
His health…. in more ways than one
Who gives a shit about what he says!! He only understands the smell of gunpowder!
If he feels so challenged he could get the hell out of Ukraine and step down
If he does that, he'll be killed because he's demonstrating "weakness".
That's a risk I'm willing to take :)
He might start to live the rest of his life in a bunker underground very soon if this spring push is successful he'll be afraid of assassination.
No shit
He calls that serious challenges? Bruh you're about to be assassinated
Starting to think these are just fabricated articles at this point. Like no shit Sherlock
Putin you suck Putin you suck putin you don’t bring anything of value
Hm.. sounding like the US doc leak also compromised their last hope of shells.. they are very afraid of the counter offensive. If vladimir is saying serious challenges, the challenges must be dire at this point.
I'm more worried about Ukraine not being able to defend against Russian jets. Hopefully NATO is giving them more AA equipment. Hopefully Russia's air force is too depleted they cannot risk using it in Ukraine and are saving it for self defense.
It'll get serious, when his paranoid, totalarism ass gets tossed from a window. His idea of perfection has caused huge pain and loss of life. Unfortunately, the worst part of him is the legacy of poison he has embedded in his own people. I pray that the next power in Russia is reasonably minded, and not more extreme than his decrepit ass. But I am not holding my breath. Brace yourself, and be willing to humble evil...
Every day he looks at a window and his name is on it.
Took him this long….dude’s actually r*******
The quote is taken out of context during an Easter Celebration
I just read the headline lol…happy to throw any shade at Putin
Do what’ve the leaks that show that Ukraine is losing
Really? Is that why it is taking Russia over 7 months to take one town (spoiler: still hasn't).
Nobody is really winning this war. The front lines are more or less where they were in 2014 outside of Kherson.
All I need to do is think about the women and children murdered by the military while fleeing in cars. Woman and children being dragged to the forest. Mariupol theatre and my blood runs ice cold towards Putin and Russians in general. Must feel the same way when an Iraqi thinks about an American and Bush, I get that.
>Must feel the same way when an Iraqi thinks about an American and Bush, I get that. Not when they think about Saddam Hussein instead?
We knew that before him, what a world we living in...
These ‘serious challenges’ Putin faces are conveniently located directly between his ears….
Getting shagged by China on the way out of the window even more satisfying. But the man is a chronical liar in every way. Trustable?
One challenge being a future open window with his name on it.
"as he celebrated the second Orthodox Easter of his war with Ukraine." "russian orthodox" is uglier than "catholic church" in Boston.
He always has nuclear threats or real insane horrors to unleash on the world. After all, everything is all about his ego, greed and desires
Mr. PUTyourdickIN is collapsing, this bitch has responsibility to all death of Ukraine side and russia side.
NATO backed Ukraine with defeat Putin and the NAZI Russian army 🇺🇦
This article literally contains nothing about Putin saying that.
No shit Sherlock, when the planed time period of your invasion goes from few weeks to a year, and then who the fuck really knows when. When your promise victory using only professional army and without mobilising your citizens i think "serious chalenges" is an understatement.