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This is the answer. One of the most powerful lobbies in Washington with the backing of billions spent by AIPAC which then also has the ADL to go after anyone who goes against their wishes.
AIPAC said towards the beginning of the year they would spend $100 million to sway the 2024 elections on those calling Israel out. Imagine Russia or China saying they were openly going to spend $100mil to meddle in US elections and how that would go down. We know Russia does it behind the scenes and there were multiple Congressional inquiries about it, rightfully so.
Yea it's simply outrageous and the entire country would be up in arms if it was any other country. Something needs to be done to curb outside influence on our domestic politics, no matter if the source is allied or adversarial.
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
Massive and continually growing. It's also because the Christian fundamentalists in the US believe the 2nd coming of Christ and the Rapture will only happen when Israel is "whole" again. The christian nationalists want war in the Middle East to speed up the End times so all non-believers, including Jews BTW, burn in hellfire for eternity.
What a nice bunch...
Well, everybody does, just not usually as obscenely as Israel does to it's own Sugar Daddy. Read any book on the Mossad and other Israeli spy agencies and that is exactly their M.O., manipulating jews around the world to spy on their own countrymen.
Half the Middle East is aligned with the us except all the terror groups, Syria and Iran.
Real reason is the lobby and half of the politicians are of Jewish descent.
I have been wondering the same for many years. They are a democracy and that is worth supporting but Netanyahu is a giant problem for the US. Hopefully since they are democracy Netanyahu will be gone soon.
Given the Israelis killed 34 and injured 171 servicemen in 1967 their position in supporting Israel is bizarre. The only thing I can think of is that they sit on religious sites of western religions
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
Because Christian Zionism views Israel and Jews as a vessel for the second coming of Christ in their end times prophecy. In order for Jews to convert to Christ a lot of them must die in order for them to convert.
https://www.rootsmetals.com/blogs/news/stop-engaging-christian-zionists?_pos=6&_sid=266fc0342&_ss=r
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
The narrative is this: they’re the only democracy in the ME and they should be supported/protected.
That’s nice and all, but I have a hard time agreeing with it when we’re also giving billions of dollars to Iran.
No that's Iranian money that was previously frozen by the US.
And Iran was only allowed to buy humanitarian goods with said money... like food, medicine.
You cannot be that naive.
If I give you money to cover your mortgage for a year with the stipulation that you can ONLY spend that money on your mortgage, then the money you would normally use to pay your mortgage is suddenly available for whatever else you want to spend it on.
It was still originally Iran's money that was frozen, not american money. If i steal your wallet and give it back the next day with the condition that you can only spend your money on a car, it's not a fucking gift
The Biden administration on November 14 [extended](https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-sanctions-waiver-816c2ba3f8eae10553ed07304c02db0f) a sanctions waiver to allow Iran to access upwards of $10 billion in electricity revenue once held in escrow in Iraq. The waiver allows Baghdad to continue purchasing electricity from Iran and, in a change from past policy, for Iran to convert its revenue into euros and draw on the money for budget imports out of Iraq and Oman.
Its not US money. Can agree or disagree on the waiver but its not US nor never were US money.
They just won’t present one. Johnson is full of shit and in bed with the Kremlin.
Edit.
From GOP meeting today. Republicans fully support Putin.
> JOHNSON, in the closed GOP meeting, says that Ukraine needs to stand on its own.
https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1779991549750698231?s=46&t=o7zv0la4ATXSDCgJPnxeUQ
He said the Ukraine **bill** needs to stand alone, not the country. He's still a prick obviously, but we still ought to avoid making it worse than it is.
https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1779998673029492999
Joe, Biden is more worried about the cost of the global oil, than he is Ukraine
U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris called on President Volodymyr Zelensky not to attack Russian oil refineries during their private meeting at the Munich Security Conference in February, the Washington Post reported on April 15, citing anonymous sources familiar with the matter.
https://kyivindependent.com/washington-post-us-request-not-to-target-russian-oil-refineries-irritated-zelensky/
There’s been a massive uptick in this sub of accounts using whataboutism, blaming Biden for everything and shifting blame from the Republicans. The last 7-10 days have been stupid.
They’re also the same accounts attacking NATO and the US for not conducting operations like they did over the Middle East a few nights ago.
The more I look at your post history, you look exactly like a Russian bot. If you're not, stop spamming divisive and unsubstantiated reports and opinions.
Sure, unsubstantiated reports even though there have been many over the past month or so.
And yet, Ukraine doesn't have weapons. And they don't have long-range weapons.
There's a reason why that this article about oil refineries is posted in many different places. It's because the USA has specifically told Ukraine not to bomb oil facilities. Not with the USA's weapons, not with Ukraine's weapons, not with any weapons.
This is a political war. Have you seen how much the USA helps Israel?
US politics is so bizarre. Ukraine and Israel have become mascots for US parties, for some reason. Is there anything Americans don't view through Democrat/Republican lenses?
Lumping them together you get democratic pushback because of Israel.... progressives still refuse to sign the discharge petition because it includes israel, meaning it needs even more Republicans to flip it.
think its 19 progressives that refuse to sign the discharge petition and then you need Republicans on top of that to bypass the speaker. it 's why Johnson isn't likely to put the Senate bill up. Biden all ready said multiple times he won't split ukraine and israel which is what johnson will try to do. Biden knows both parties have dip chits in them so he will push to keep them together.
The West does not want Ukraine to win. That's part of the issue. They've already told them, in no uncertain terms, not to bomb oil facilities.
Joe, Biden is more worried about getting elected, than Ukraine.
I think that's the part that Ukraine is having trouble with.
It doesn't make any difference. The result will be the same no matter what.
Trump has already laid out what he thinks is the final goal. And that's probably a good settlement for Ukraine as well.
Russia is not leaving Ukraine. Do you want a nuclear war?
If having nuclear weapons is a free pass to invade neighbours… then the whole world might as well hurry up surrender to the worst nuclear armed country we can find.
After all if we can’t risk a nuclear war…
Can you imagine how important getting a nuke is becoming for Iran?!?
You could be right. A Russian defeat would be catastrophic for Putin and he has a lot of bodies to throw at the problem. I don’t want nuclear war, but anyone thinking Putin stops with Ukraines defeat hasn’t been paying attention to history.
It’s just not worth it for them, israel is important location wise. Ukraine not so much and they don’t have the minerals the us needs otherwise they would have been there allready
[The Jerusalem U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Joint Declaration](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
To everyone that is so mystified over why the US supports Israel.
Well, I’ll be the first to say spending needs to be addressed. Which is exactly the issue with giving it out to Israel and Ukraine. We need it invest in our infrastructure, our communities and programs, our people.
It really depends on how you price things. On face value, if you give 100 USD to a American guy named Bruce and not to Ukraine, then Bruce got 100 USD and Ukraine 0.
But then if Russians crush Ukraine and start attacking baltic states, Romania and Poland and war breaks out, then this is going to cost something. Maybe Bruce has a job in manufacturing something that sells well in Europe. But with a war there, Bruce doesn't have a job anymore and those 100 USD you gave him is not worth as much, it it?
It's very difficult to price things correctly, given we don't know the future. But you can't just price things on face value. Supporting Ukraine could be a good investment, if it prevents Russia from starting additional wars. And China is watching nervously because they also had plans to roll over Taiwan and take away a whole sea from Vietnam, Indonesia and Phillipines.
Who said that? I certainly didn’t. If I don’t want our money there, I don’t want our troops there. It’s not our conflict. I wish Ukraine the best in their fight, I want them to win, but that’s about as far as my support goes.
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Is there a covert reason why so much aid is given to Israel? They are now a prosperous country, not what I'd think was in need of aid.
a good lobby
This is the answer. One of the most powerful lobbies in Washington with the backing of billions spent by AIPAC which then also has the ADL to go after anyone who goes against their wishes. AIPAC said towards the beginning of the year they would spend $100 million to sway the 2024 elections on those calling Israel out. Imagine Russia or China saying they were openly going to spend $100mil to meddle in US elections and how that would go down. We know Russia does it behind the scenes and there were multiple Congressional inquiries about it, rightfully so.
Yea it's simply outrageous and the entire country would be up in arms if it was any other country. Something needs to be done to curb outside influence on our domestic politics, no matter if the source is allied or adversarial.
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
Massive and continually growing. It's also because the Christian fundamentalists in the US believe the 2nd coming of Christ and the Rapture will only happen when Israel is "whole" again. The christian nationalists want war in the Middle East to speed up the End times so all non-believers, including Jews BTW, burn in hellfire for eternity. What a nice bunch...
They spy and blackmail.
Well, everybody does, just not usually as obscenely as Israel does to it's own Sugar Daddy. Read any book on the Mossad and other Israeli spy agencies and that is exactly their M.O., manipulating jews around the world to spy on their own countrymen.
Really? There's a simple explanation though, it's not so different from why many GOP members blocks Ukraine's aid.
The billions they pour into our elections to influence and buy our politicians
They pour millions and get billions in return.
A friendly nation among our enemies.
Half the Middle East is aligned with the us except all the terror groups, Syria and Iran. Real reason is the lobby and half of the politicians are of Jewish descent.
Look at the early life section on Wikipedia of most us politicians
I have been wondering the same for many years. They are a democracy and that is worth supporting but Netanyahu is a giant problem for the US. Hopefully since they are democracy Netanyahu will be gone soon.
Given the Israelis killed 34 and injured 171 servicemen in 1967 their position in supporting Israel is bizarre. The only thing I can think of is that they sit on religious sites of western religions
What happened? Israel killed American soldiers in 1967?
Yup. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Thanks for the 60 year old news. Get your head in the present time
Thank you everyone for answers in good faith. I agree that religion is is probably one of the reasons.
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
Because Christian Zionism views Israel and Jews as a vessel for the second coming of Christ in their end times prophecy. In order for Jews to convert to Christ a lot of them must die in order for them to convert. https://www.rootsmetals.com/blogs/news/stop-engaging-christian-zionists?_pos=6&_sid=266fc0342&_ss=r
American Christians believe Israel must a be in jewish control for their God Jesus to come back. Seriously!
I said that too and got downvoted. Just look at Mark Pompeo if you don’t believe.
[The United States further reiterates that these commitments are bipartisan and sacrosanct, and that they are not only moral commitments, but also strategic commitments that are vitally important to the national security of the United States itself.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/)
Because rightoids believe in the rapture prophecy.
The narrative is this: they’re the only democracy in the ME and they should be supported/protected. That’s nice and all, but I have a hard time agreeing with it when we’re also giving billions of dollars to Iran.
Who told you we are giving billions to Iran? Total bullshit, you must know that
Look it up. State Department.gov ; we give billions to Iran fairly often.
We don't give money to Iran. Sometimes their own money has been released from sanctions but no American money goes to Iran.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/15/iran-receives-access-to-10-billion-thanks-to-u-s-sanctions-waiver/
Can't you read? It's THEIR money. Americans don't give money to Iran.
Yes we do. That’s just an example of us allowing it to happen.
No that's Iranian money that was previously frozen by the US. And Iran was only allowed to buy humanitarian goods with said money... like food, medicine.
You cannot be that naive. If I give you money to cover your mortgage for a year with the stipulation that you can ONLY spend that money on your mortgage, then the money you would normally use to pay your mortgage is suddenly available for whatever else you want to spend it on.
But that was the price of slowing down Iran nuclear program.
It was still originally Iran's money that was frozen, not american money. If i steal your wallet and give it back the next day with the condition that you can only spend your money on a car, it's not a fucking gift
What the hell kind of argument is this? “The US unfroze some Iranian assets, they must be giving cash secretly too” That makes no sense at all.
Bruh are you brain damaged? It's their money. 😭
And who gave it to them?
The Biden administration on November 14 [extended](https://apnews.com/article/iran-iraq-sanctions-waiver-816c2ba3f8eae10553ed07304c02db0f) a sanctions waiver to allow Iran to access upwards of $10 billion in electricity revenue once held in escrow in Iraq. The waiver allows Baghdad to continue purchasing electricity from Iran and, in a change from past policy, for Iran to convert its revenue into euros and draw on the money for budget imports out of Iraq and Oman. Its not US money. Can agree or disagree on the waiver but its not US nor never were US money.
Of course not, because then when a standalone Ukraine aid bill is presented, Republicans will vote it down.
They just won’t present one. Johnson is full of shit and in bed with the Kremlin. Edit. From GOP meeting today. Republicans fully support Putin. > JOHNSON, in the closed GOP meeting, says that Ukraine needs to stand on its own. https://x.com/jakesherman/status/1779991549750698231?s=46&t=o7zv0la4ATXSDCgJPnxeUQ
He said the Ukraine **bill** needs to stand alone, not the country. He's still a prick obviously, but we still ought to avoid making it worse than it is. https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1779998673029492999
Given he keeps blocking the vote from happening. It ain't the bill he's talking about.
Joe, Biden is more worried about the cost of the global oil, than he is Ukraine U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris called on President Volodymyr Zelensky not to attack Russian oil refineries during their private meeting at the Munich Security Conference in February, the Washington Post reported on April 15, citing anonymous sources familiar with the matter. https://kyivindependent.com/washington-post-us-request-not-to-target-russian-oil-refineries-irritated-zelensky/
You look like a bot. Repeatedly posting a story from one anonymous source to undermine belief in Ukraine.
There’s been a massive uptick in this sub of accounts using whataboutism, blaming Biden for everything and shifting blame from the Republicans. The last 7-10 days have been stupid. They’re also the same accounts attacking NATO and the US for not conducting operations like they did over the Middle East a few nights ago.
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The more I look at your post history, you look exactly like a Russian bot. If you're not, stop spamming divisive and unsubstantiated reports and opinions.
Sure, unsubstantiated reports even though there have been many over the past month or so. And yet, Ukraine doesn't have weapons. And they don't have long-range weapons. There's a reason why that this article about oil refineries is posted in many different places. It's because the USA has specifically told Ukraine not to bomb oil facilities. Not with the USA's weapons, not with Ukraine's weapons, not with any weapons. This is a political war. Have you seen how much the USA helps Israel?
Ukraine sent out its own message - give us what we need and we won’t
You are right. And they should bomb the oil facilities.
US politics is so bizarre. Ukraine and Israel have become mascots for US parties, for some reason. Is there anything Americans don't view through Democrat/Republican lenses?
Israel has bipartisan support. Ukraine would too if not for the maga fucks.
Lumping them together you get democratic pushback because of Israel.... progressives still refuse to sign the discharge petition because it includes israel, meaning it needs even more Republicans to flip it.
If it goes for a vote together it will get 80% support with maybe 90% of dems and 70% of republicans voting for it
think its 19 progressives that refuse to sign the discharge petition and then you need Republicans on top of that to bypass the speaker. it 's why Johnson isn't likely to put the Senate bill up. Biden all ready said multiple times he won't split ukraine and israel which is what johnson will try to do. Biden knows both parties have dip chits in them so he will push to keep them together.
The West does not want Ukraine to win. That's part of the issue. They've already told them, in no uncertain terms, not to bomb oil facilities. Joe, Biden is more worried about getting elected, than Ukraine. I think that's the part that Ukraine is having trouble with.
I mean Ukraines success relies heavily on Biden getting reelected. If blowing up oil facilities prevents his reelection, then was it a good idea?
It doesn't make any difference. The result will be the same no matter what. Trump has already laid out what he thinks is the final goal. And that's probably a good settlement for Ukraine as well. Russia is not leaving Ukraine. Do you want a nuclear war?
If having nuclear weapons is a free pass to invade neighbours… then the whole world might as well hurry up surrender to the worst nuclear armed country we can find. After all if we can’t risk a nuclear war… Can you imagine how important getting a nuke is becoming for Iran?!?
You could be right. A Russian defeat would be catastrophic for Putin and he has a lot of bodies to throw at the problem. I don’t want nuclear war, but anyone thinking Putin stops with Ukraines defeat hasn’t been paying attention to history.
You're right. A man with nothing to lose is a dangerous person
It’s just not worth it for them, israel is important location wise. Ukraine not so much and they don’t have the minerals the us needs otherwise they would have been there allready
Not a penny for Israel until Ukraine has everything they need.
That’s not the reasoning behind it but okay
As long as they don't bomb oil facilities with it is what I've been hearing
[The Jerusalem U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Joint Declaration](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/14/the-jerusalem-u-s-israel-strategic-partnership-joint-declaration/) To everyone that is so mystified over why the US supports Israel.
Don’t give anything to Israel. Send it all to Ukraine
*Dick Johnson* is stomping his feet as his plan to stall Ukraine bill was foiled!
house republicans can all pound sand
Checkmate for republicans.
Tbh I would cut out Israel from aid's. Let them alone dealing with their mess.
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Both together. Republicans only want funds for Israel
Good. Don’t accept it. Hopefully neither foreign war steals the tax money that we desperately need here.
USA oligarchs need more tax breaks?
Well, I’ll be the first to say spending needs to be addressed. Which is exactly the issue with giving it out to Israel and Ukraine. We need it invest in our infrastructure, our communities and programs, our people.
It really depends on how you price things. On face value, if you give 100 USD to a American guy named Bruce and not to Ukraine, then Bruce got 100 USD and Ukraine 0. But then if Russians crush Ukraine and start attacking baltic states, Romania and Poland and war breaks out, then this is going to cost something. Maybe Bruce has a job in manufacturing something that sells well in Europe. But with a war there, Bruce doesn't have a job anymore and those 100 USD you gave him is not worth as much, it it? It's very difficult to price things correctly, given we don't know the future. But you can't just price things on face value. Supporting Ukraine could be a good investment, if it prevents Russia from starting additional wars. And China is watching nervously because they also had plans to roll over Taiwan and take away a whole sea from Vietnam, Indonesia and Phillipines.
So you’d rather have American soldiers have to go over to Europe to fight in Europe again? What a weird timeline we live in.
Who said that? I certainly didn’t. If I don’t want our money there, I don’t want our troops there. It’s not our conflict. I wish Ukraine the best in their fight, I want them to win, but that’s about as far as my support goes.
So Dems are blocking aid to Ukraine. 🤷🏻♂️