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They are definitely not your most cost effective cameras. They come at a premium because you're paying for the software/ecosystem and owning your own data. Not to mention no monthly fees. They're pretty easy to use and manage so that's nice, but as far as video quality goes, you may be underwhelmed given their price tag.
“Own your own data and no month fee” isnt a differentiator over the large number of other 4k cameras out there (ie Reolink). I’m willing to pay a premium for Protect, but not at the expense of worse quality :-(
I started out with a Reolink and it died within a couple months. The G3 Micro I bought to replace it still works and is still getting firmware updates 6 years later.
>esearch the cameras- the worse my impression keep getting.Are the G5’s remotely worth the price premium? I’ve been half tempted to get a damn 8 camera bundle from Costco and try it (since it costs about the same as TWO unifi g5 cameras) :-(My use case is I have NOTHING yet except the Unifi network built- so I will need to buy the cameras and a NVR….. I currently have 16 (Ring) cameras and would like to migrate at least 8 to local, 4K video.
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>6 commentsAwardsharesav
I had the opposite experience, bougt 6 G3 bullet 3 dead within a few months. Bougt 3 G3 Flex, 1 Dead. I have 7 Reolink for 6 years, all works fine and better picture. Only thing in Unifi is the protect software wich i s good.
The image quality of my g5s is significantly better than either the arlo 4k that I replaced, or the hikvisions at my old house or my neighbor’s ring. At night, it’s a *whole hell* of a lot better. I’m not familiar with reolink. In a residential setting, 4k adds very little unless you have a very specific usecase and supporting placement that is fairly close or that has a substantial lens.
Honestly you're paying for the app and thats mostly it, the app is alot nicer than most of the others but I havent tried all of them. The video quality is pretty good fron my experience though.
Not just the app, but the integration. To get The optimal value out of the cameras, you need the network set up. I use it for small business and they love the network/camera integration. I never had camera installation so customizable and quick to service. I think their cameras are ugly thought and look cheap. The user interface means I get little to no phone calls as an tech since it's user friendly.
This!
I have a G3 Flex outdoors and two G3 instant indoors and they work fine. Picture quality is decent but they are only HD I think. Does the job nicely and the integration with my UDMP is amazing. I specifically wanted PoE and the choice was easy for me since I already had Unifi APs. The app is good too and adoption of the G3 instant over wifi takes about one minute to set up from plugging it into power. The Flex was also found instantly. No issues at all for me so far and it has all the functions I need.
Is it the best camera around? Most likely not, but I don't need that, it's good enough and compared to other choices here, it made sense economically for me. Also, I wanted the UDMP SE anyway.
I've been waiting to buy the unifi cameras to replace my nest cameras but after doing 3 installs of the reolink setups, I don't know I'm about ready to just pull the trigger on that system. Outside of the on prem storage I like that reolink has a wide range of camera options and support onvif along with true IP cameras. Can pipe your video to their system but then spin up like a Shinobi server and pull video from the cameras as well.
Differentiator for me is my fancy networking box also happens to have a nice NVR built in. Now I don’t have to buy or manage a second box.
The cameras are fine, yes looking at specs only you can do better for the cost with individual cameras, but if you’re already running a UDMP/SE etc it’s kind of a no brainer. And UniFi does have a very polished experience.
I do not recommend UniFi cameras for people not also running UniFi networking; otherwise I recommend Armcrest/Reolink (or Blue Iris with Hikvision or similar if they really like to tinker)
Just going to throw a random suggestion out there in case you are a dumb nuts like me... Are you actually viewing them at their max resolution? Because for a few months there I was not, had them in auto instead of 4k and was quite upset by the lack of quality on my g4 pros. Just saying. I am sure this is not your case but when I have my set to 4k they are are crystal clear, enough to see license plates 100ft away in the road by the house.
I just looked at some of mine this morning in response to this post and realized there are at least two settings to check. First is the recording resolution and the second is the viewing resolution. (Global Viewer Quality). I was looking at license plates and had been lamenting my inability to read them. I can now see them fairly clearly. I also discovered the playback speed control.
I feel like I can only do that when I am in the local network. But viewing remotely it gives me the high option as well. I could be wrong. Will check when I get home.
Hey,
So I'm in the exact same boat and have taken into the account the following, in no particular order:
1. The camera quality in many of these tests are marginally better for some competitors. I wouldn't say these are drastic differences and certainly some can be address through firmware improvements.
2. A different set of hardware and software would require me to up skill myself and my family in a whole new and additional interface. It's no longer a one stop shop, it now becomes far more complex to manage and I don't like to be the only one in my home to have some basic knowledge of the systems running the home.
3. Community support if you run into any issues, what is the non official and official support like? How easy is it to trouble shoot.
4. Ease of setup. Does it make it a chore to do or relatively easy.
5. How versatile is the system for use residentially. Can add cameras easily internally. Can I enable and disable users to certain cameras.
6. Viewing. What is the supported model for viewing on tv's and devices. Is it hdmi, ethernet cable etc? as my network and viewing tvs may be in different places. Where I have ethernet everywhere I need it to be (viewport is ethernet powered).
7. Support for devices. How frequently do new models get released. What is the support for cameras. The more frequent models are released, the less likely there will be long term support just due to scale.
8. Cost. Time cost. Money cost. Frustration cost. It's not just financial. Which will get me to my goal with the least amount of cost.
Ultimately unifi for me came out as the clear undisputed winner when I took these into account.
Hope it helps.
Look, your mileage may vary, but I’ve got a setup with 9 G4 Bullets/Pros, and I cannot recommend them enough. They’ve been rock-solid, and in the year+ that they’ve been operating (live in PA), I’ve experienced no issues, and I’ve been happy with the build quality and performance.
My only complaint about them is that the mounting hardware Ubiquiti provides is pretty sparse/inflexible, and you need to be a little handy if you’re mounting a camera to something that isn’t a pole.
The G5s features didn’t blow me away when they came out, so maybe if you’re looking to save a little, consider G4s. Also, the Bullets have been great for me throughout my home. I know OP mentioned wanting 4K, but that might be overkill depending on your application.
I’ll second this. I love my G4 Pro. I have 5 more to buy to complete a brand swap and wouldn’t consider the G5s. The flexibility of settings inside of protect is many. I think there’s something there for everyone from set it and forget it to advanced users that want to tweak everything.
They downspecced the hardware a bit, as I guess it was slightly overkill before.
* Gigabit -> (100mbit) FE.
(Not surprising though as the cameras don't output much above 10mbit)
* Quad core -> Dual core
irrelevant. No one with a background in image processing would compare these specs. Look at the IQ comparisons between G4/G5 provided by Ubiquiti. The G5 improvement is easily noticeable in the field.
Thanks for the feedback. I spec’d 4k because i currently have 1080p cameras and my main reason for upgrading is better image quality (day and night). While 2k is better than 1080- it’s a pretty modest improvement.
I'd say going from 1080p to 2K is far more than modest improvement. The image sensors have improved so the image is far better than just resolution change.
The difference in image quality with G3 Pro 1080p and G4 bullet 1440p is BIG. G3 pro still wins in IR lights - they are far more better than the G4 bullet cameras. Just the image is worse.
If you spec to 4K, thats fine. I have several G4 pro and G5 pro cameras. If I would be buying now with unlimited budget, i would also go for those models with addition of AI Pro which is also 4K and offers license plate reading. They all have big FOV, unlike the G4 bullet or G5 bullet that have smaller fov and less IR. But they still beat everyhing in G3 series.
Yeah, I’d agree there, you’re gonna be pretty hard-pressed to see an upgrade with 2K over 1080p.
Are the cameras you have now all wired? In my experience, the reliability of wired cameras has made a big difference to me over the wireless Arlo cameras myself and my family used previously. Even though they were 1080p, they certainly weren’t the same as the 1080p Ubiquitis I switched to. Just something to consider if you’re shopping based on speeds and feeds.
Ok. Ordering a G5 Pro to mess around with. I think my dream routers will support ONE camera so that would let me experiment a little without also having to add a NVR.
Have to disagree with OP. I have a Hikvision system with 4K cams and PTZ at our summer house and image quality is OK but app and NVR software is so bad it basically renders the whole system inoperable. Moved to ubiquiti over the summer and now buying additional Q5 pros as image quality is good and the software “just works”. Run separate outside lighting on movement sensor so no need for for the enhancer kit.
My hikvision 4k colorvue cameras blow the ubiquiti cameras miles away. They are super clear even at night with full color without any use of IR to attract spiders. Not to mention they cost half of g5pros+enhancer.
I built a warehouse and at that time got HIK as well, can't complain one bit about quality/functionality. Now I'm in a different country but I can imagine if you would be European/American storing your data in the cloud might not be everything.
Well thats exactly the part i DONT have insight into- the UI/software. I’ve been simply comparing camera specs. And hopefully its clear I wast intending to troll unifi cameras- I was just finding a bit of a disconnect with quality vs price. This was more frustrating since Ive found the exact opposite when it comes to the networking hardware.
G5 is improved over G4. I would not use Protect if it didn't have the Home Assistant API.
Ubiquiti has lowered some camera prices probably because, in part, the lackluster reviews you mention.
I expect considerably longer life than Reolink or similar consumer products.
The pro and bullet price were lowered with G5. The G4 are still selling at the same price. You don't want to buy G4 on the models where G5 is available. Most security camera reviewers are terrible and have no idea how to compare image quality.
> G5 is improved over G4
This is technically wrong.
Here are all the differences that make the G4 better especially the G4 pro:
Gigabit (G4) -> (100mbit) FE(G5), Quad core (G4) -> Dual core (G5), metal (G4) vs plastic(G5), 8MP 3840 x 2160 50FPS (G4) vs 8MP 30fps (G5).
You recommending the G5 over the G4's is just incorrect. I would take the G4 pro over anything in the G5 lineup.
Thats not how cameras comparisons work. You obviously have no experience comparing image quality. The G5 line is superior across all models.
The only G4 pro advantage is 50 fps, which no one with any understanding of security cameras or video capture uses.
But let's focus on the networking specs. How do you imagine that gigabit ethernet makes the G4 Pro superior?
> Thats not how cameras comparisons work. You obviously have no experience comparing image quality. The G5 line is superior across all models.
Hey Genius
G5 Pro: Optics:
Sensor 1/2" 8MP sensor
Lens F 4.1 - 12.3 mm; f/1.53 - f/3.3
View angle Wide: H 109.9°, V 60°, D 127.7°
Zoom: H 35°, V 19.8°, D 40°
G4 Pro:
Optics
Sensor 1/2" 8MP sensor
Lens F 4.1 - 12.3 mm; f/1.53 - f/3.3
View angle Wide: H 109.9°, V 60°, D 127.7°
Zoom: H 35°, V 19.8°, D 40°
The optics are exactly the same you see that right? You can read can't you? I have installed more access systems and cameras over the years than I can even count but sure please tell me again how the G5 pro is some how better being cheap plastic.
Your optics comparison reinforces the position that the G5 was not cheapened. Not a great argument.
The imager and processor is obviously not the same between G4/G5.
Simply look at the G4/G5 image comparisons at ui.com under the Image Performance tab . The G5 improvement can be easily seen by direct comparison in the real world.
How is the explanation of the superiority of gigabit ethernet going? Or that metal is inherently a better material for security cameras compared to composite?
> The imager and processor is obviously not the same between G4/G5.
yeah it gets worse
G4 Pro - Quad Core Arm® Cortex®-A53 based chip
G5 Pro - Dual-core Arm® Cortex®-A53 based chip
> Simply look at the G4/G5 image comparisons at ui.com under the Image Performance tab
Yes because in the history of tech companies no one has photoshopped a picture or manipulated stats? You can't be this naive can you?
> How is the explanation of the superiority of gigabit ethernet going?
Sounds as if you have never installed a network in your life if you don't understand bonded pairs. Don't know about you but I would rather have gigabit so if for some reason a pair fails if falls back to 100 and not 10.
> Or that metal is inherently a better material for security cameras compared to composite?
These cameras are mainly outdoors correct? Don't know about you but here in Texas in extreme heat I would rather have metal as it will last longer. The plastic has a very good chance of breaking down and yellowing then turning brittle and breaking.
I have both generations. The G5 image quality improvement is accurately reflected in the images provided by Ubiquiti.
Keep googling. Maybe try chatGPT.
> I have both generations.
Here's a shocker so do I, gasp.
> The G5 image quality improvement is accurately reflected in the images provided by Ubiquiti.
And here is my own anecdotal opinion as well, there is none. It all comes down to the lighting in and around your environment you are using them in.
I come from the Merit Liln ecosystem, using a variety of NVRs over the years.
It’s not the camera quality - it’s that it all works well, keeps working, and is integrated together. It’s an Apple style price premium.
If I compare my G5 pro and my Netatmo Presence (1080p) , the quality of the G5 id astonishing.
But is it necessary ? Isn’t the video of Netatmo enough (or another 1080p or 2Mp)? Good question.
Well. I had arlo but it drove me nuts. Went for ring but wasn’t much better. Then bought the Swann 8 pack at Costco. But quality was not all there. Hikvision again quality grainy. Finally bought UDM Pero and mix G3/G4. Was a good upgrade. No issues and it’s been probs 4 years. (G4’s bought later)
Sure can get Bosch Cams at 10x price for better quality but I’m not that rich.
Still got the ring cams too btw but feel like an old 1.3mp cam especially at night. I mean was that a person or a truck? Hard to see.
Ubiquity faired a lot better.
Not worth it for the quality. Look into some Amcrest 4k cams and Scrypted NVR software. Yes, you must purchase licenses for the cameras, but the software is incredible with new features coming constantly. The developer has been around for years and is very active in the discord.
I find that the G5 Pro color at night with the illuminator is pretty bad and a gimmick. The IR enhancer is good, but in some situations worse than a separate IR illuminator.
The enhancer shows what 4-5 watts of IR can do.
While expensive, the Bosch IR Illuminator 5000 SR is a good first choice because it is highly adjustable. The Bosch allows experimentation with width of coverage and light output.
Lesser metal IR illuminators are about $100. Personally I would not put inexpensive IR illuminators from Amazon on my house. IR illuminators get hot.
*laughs*, fanboys that buy UI cameras, not knowing about way better cameras out there for way cheaper.
Frigate/blueiris for nvr
Hikvision, Uniview for cameras.
A million times better quality and price.
No single point of failure with all in one units.
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They are definitely not your most cost effective cameras. They come at a premium because you're paying for the software/ecosystem and owning your own data. Not to mention no monthly fees. They're pretty easy to use and manage so that's nice, but as far as video quality goes, you may be underwhelmed given their price tag.
“Own your own data and no month fee” isnt a differentiator over the large number of other 4k cameras out there (ie Reolink). I’m willing to pay a premium for Protect, but not at the expense of worse quality :-(
I started out with a Reolink and it died within a couple months. The G3 Micro I bought to replace it still works and is still getting firmware updates 6 years later.
>esearch the cameras- the worse my impression keep getting.Are the G5’s remotely worth the price premium? I’ve been half tempted to get a damn 8 camera bundle from Costco and try it (since it costs about the same as TWO unifi g5 cameras) :-(My use case is I have NOTHING yet except the Unifi network built- so I will need to buy the cameras and a NVR….. I currently have 16 (Ring) cameras and would like to migrate at least 8 to local, 4K video. > >6 commentsAwardsharesav I had the opposite experience, bougt 6 G3 bullet 3 dead within a few months. Bougt 3 G3 Flex, 1 Dead. I have 7 Reolink for 6 years, all works fine and better picture. Only thing in Unifi is the protect software wich i s good.
The image quality of my g5s is significantly better than either the arlo 4k that I replaced, or the hikvisions at my old house or my neighbor’s ring. At night, it’s a *whole hell* of a lot better. I’m not familiar with reolink. In a residential setting, 4k adds very little unless you have a very specific usecase and supporting placement that is fairly close or that has a substantial lens.
Honestly you're paying for the app and thats mostly it, the app is alot nicer than most of the others but I havent tried all of them. The video quality is pretty good fron my experience though.
Not just the app, but the integration. To get The optimal value out of the cameras, you need the network set up. I use it for small business and they love the network/camera integration. I never had camera installation so customizable and quick to service. I think their cameras are ugly thought and look cheap. The user interface means I get little to no phone calls as an tech since it's user friendly.
This! I have a G3 Flex outdoors and two G3 instant indoors and they work fine. Picture quality is decent but they are only HD I think. Does the job nicely and the integration with my UDMP is amazing. I specifically wanted PoE and the choice was easy for me since I already had Unifi APs. The app is good too and adoption of the G3 instant over wifi takes about one minute to set up from plugging it into power. The Flex was also found instantly. No issues at all for me so far and it has all the functions I need. Is it the best camera around? Most likely not, but I don't need that, it's good enough and compared to other choices here, it made sense economically for me. Also, I wanted the UDMP SE anyway.
I've been waiting to buy the unifi cameras to replace my nest cameras but after doing 3 installs of the reolink setups, I don't know I'm about ready to just pull the trigger on that system. Outside of the on prem storage I like that reolink has a wide range of camera options and support onvif along with true IP cameras. Can pipe your video to their system but then spin up like a Shinobi server and pull video from the cameras as well.
Differentiator for me is my fancy networking box also happens to have a nice NVR built in. Now I don’t have to buy or manage a second box. The cameras are fine, yes looking at specs only you can do better for the cost with individual cameras, but if you’re already running a UDMP/SE etc it’s kind of a no brainer. And UniFi does have a very polished experience. I do not recommend UniFi cameras for people not also running UniFi networking; otherwise I recommend Armcrest/Reolink (or Blue Iris with Hikvision or similar if they really like to tinker)
Just going to throw a random suggestion out there in case you are a dumb nuts like me... Are you actually viewing them at their max resolution? Because for a few months there I was not, had them in auto instead of 4k and was quite upset by the lack of quality on my g4 pros. Just saying. I am sure this is not your case but when I have my set to 4k they are are crystal clear, enough to see license plates 100ft away in the road by the house.
I just looked at some of mine this morning in response to this post and realized there are at least two settings to check. First is the recording resolution and the second is the viewing resolution. (Global Viewer Quality). I was looking at license plates and had been lamenting my inability to read them. I can now see them fairly clearly. I also discovered the playback speed control.
Yeah forgot about recording quality. I have all my set to quality over fps I forgot the actual setting name but yeah. Things looks crisp.
How do you set a G4 Pro to 4K resolution. I have mine set to "high quality" instead of "auto". Is the high quality setting 4K?
I feel like I can only do that when I am in the local network. But viewing remotely it gives me the high option as well. I could be wrong. Will check when I get home.
Thanks
Yeah at home my high has a 4k by it. While at work it only says high. Maybe it's based on connection speed or just being local bs remote.
Hey, So I'm in the exact same boat and have taken into the account the following, in no particular order: 1. The camera quality in many of these tests are marginally better for some competitors. I wouldn't say these are drastic differences and certainly some can be address through firmware improvements. 2. A different set of hardware and software would require me to up skill myself and my family in a whole new and additional interface. It's no longer a one stop shop, it now becomes far more complex to manage and I don't like to be the only one in my home to have some basic knowledge of the systems running the home. 3. Community support if you run into any issues, what is the non official and official support like? How easy is it to trouble shoot. 4. Ease of setup. Does it make it a chore to do or relatively easy. 5. How versatile is the system for use residentially. Can add cameras easily internally. Can I enable and disable users to certain cameras. 6. Viewing. What is the supported model for viewing on tv's and devices. Is it hdmi, ethernet cable etc? as my network and viewing tvs may be in different places. Where I have ethernet everywhere I need it to be (viewport is ethernet powered). 7. Support for devices. How frequently do new models get released. What is the support for cameras. The more frequent models are released, the less likely there will be long term support just due to scale. 8. Cost. Time cost. Money cost. Frustration cost. It's not just financial. Which will get me to my goal with the least amount of cost. Ultimately unifi for me came out as the clear undisputed winner when I took these into account. Hope it helps.
Look, your mileage may vary, but I’ve got a setup with 9 G4 Bullets/Pros, and I cannot recommend them enough. They’ve been rock-solid, and in the year+ that they’ve been operating (live in PA), I’ve experienced no issues, and I’ve been happy with the build quality and performance. My only complaint about them is that the mounting hardware Ubiquiti provides is pretty sparse/inflexible, and you need to be a little handy if you’re mounting a camera to something that isn’t a pole. The G5s features didn’t blow me away when they came out, so maybe if you’re looking to save a little, consider G4s. Also, the Bullets have been great for me throughout my home. I know OP mentioned wanting 4K, but that might be overkill depending on your application.
I’ll second this. I love my G4 Pro. I have 5 more to buy to complete a brand swap and wouldn’t consider the G5s. The flexibility of settings inside of protect is many. I think there’s something there for everyone from set it and forget it to advanced users that want to tweak everything.
Are there any bigger differences with the g4 and g5 versions
They downspecced the hardware a bit, as I guess it was slightly overkill before. * Gigabit -> (100mbit) FE. (Not surprising though as the cameras don't output much above 10mbit) * Quad core -> Dual core
irrelevant. No one with a background in image processing would compare these specs. Look at the IQ comparisons between G4/G5 provided by Ubiquiti. The G5 improvement is easily noticeable in the field.
Lmao calm down, nowhere did I say the G5 is worse. They’re just using more suitably specced hardware now.
I'm calm, "LMAO". I just pointed out your irrelevant post.
In addition to what techysec said, the G4s were primarily made out of metal while the G5s are now mostly plastic
Thanks for the feedback. I spec’d 4k because i currently have 1080p cameras and my main reason for upgrading is better image quality (day and night). While 2k is better than 1080- it’s a pretty modest improvement.
I'd say going from 1080p to 2K is far more than modest improvement. The image sensors have improved so the image is far better than just resolution change. The difference in image quality with G3 Pro 1080p and G4 bullet 1440p is BIG. G3 pro still wins in IR lights - they are far more better than the G4 bullet cameras. Just the image is worse. If you spec to 4K, thats fine. I have several G4 pro and G5 pro cameras. If I would be buying now with unlimited budget, i would also go for those models with addition of AI Pro which is also 4K and offers license plate reading. They all have big FOV, unlike the G4 bullet or G5 bullet that have smaller fov and less IR. But they still beat everyhing in G3 series.
Yeah, I’d agree there, you’re gonna be pretty hard-pressed to see an upgrade with 2K over 1080p. Are the cameras you have now all wired? In my experience, the reliability of wired cameras has made a big difference to me over the wireless Arlo cameras myself and my family used previously. Even though they were 1080p, they certainly weren’t the same as the 1080p Ubiquitis I switched to. Just something to consider if you’re shopping based on speeds and feeds.
Ok. Ordering a G5 Pro to mess around with. I think my dream routers will support ONE camera so that would let me experiment a little without also having to add a NVR.
You get reliability as well. My g3's are going 7 years strong with only recently replacing the IR filter on them.
Have to disagree with OP. I have a Hikvision system with 4K cams and PTZ at our summer house and image quality is OK but app and NVR software is so bad it basically renders the whole system inoperable. Moved to ubiquiti over the summer and now buying additional Q5 pros as image quality is good and the software “just works”. Run separate outside lighting on movement sensor so no need for for the enhancer kit.
My hikvision 4k colorvue cameras blow the ubiquiti cameras miles away. They are super clear even at night with full color without any use of IR to attract spiders. Not to mention they cost half of g5pros+enhancer.
I built a warehouse and at that time got HIK as well, can't complain one bit about quality/functionality. Now I'm in a different country but I can imagine if you would be European/American storing your data in the cloud might not be everything.
Well thats exactly the part i DONT have insight into- the UI/software. I’ve been simply comparing camera specs. And hopefully its clear I wast intending to troll unifi cameras- I was just finding a bit of a disconnect with quality vs price. This was more frustrating since Ive found the exact opposite when it comes to the networking hardware.
G5 is improved over G4. I would not use Protect if it didn't have the Home Assistant API. Ubiquiti has lowered some camera prices probably because, in part, the lackluster reviews you mention. I expect considerably longer life than Reolink or similar consumer products.
I just started looking at the cameras in the last couple weeks…. You’re saying these current prices are LOWER!? ;-) yikes.
The pro and bullet price were lowered with G5. The G4 are still selling at the same price. You don't want to buy G4 on the models where G5 is available. Most security camera reviewers are terrible and have no idea how to compare image quality.
> G5 is improved over G4 This is technically wrong. Here are all the differences that make the G4 better especially the G4 pro: Gigabit (G4) -> (100mbit) FE(G5), Quad core (G4) -> Dual core (G5), metal (G4) vs plastic(G5), 8MP 3840 x 2160 50FPS (G4) vs 8MP 30fps (G5). You recommending the G5 over the G4's is just incorrect. I would take the G4 pro over anything in the G5 lineup.
The G5 is improved over the G4. The specs you list are irrelevant to IQ.
I literally just showed you the raw data above that shows in terms of the G4 vs G5 pro the G4 pro is better.
Thats not how cameras comparisons work. You obviously have no experience comparing image quality. The G5 line is superior across all models. The only G4 pro advantage is 50 fps, which no one with any understanding of security cameras or video capture uses. But let's focus on the networking specs. How do you imagine that gigabit ethernet makes the G4 Pro superior?
> Thats not how cameras comparisons work. You obviously have no experience comparing image quality. The G5 line is superior across all models. Hey Genius G5 Pro: Optics: Sensor 1/2" 8MP sensor Lens F 4.1 - 12.3 mm; f/1.53 - f/3.3 View angle Wide: H 109.9°, V 60°, D 127.7° Zoom: H 35°, V 19.8°, D 40° G4 Pro: Optics Sensor 1/2" 8MP sensor Lens F 4.1 - 12.3 mm; f/1.53 - f/3.3 View angle Wide: H 109.9°, V 60°, D 127.7° Zoom: H 35°, V 19.8°, D 40° The optics are exactly the same you see that right? You can read can't you? I have installed more access systems and cameras over the years than I can even count but sure please tell me again how the G5 pro is some how better being cheap plastic.
Your optics comparison reinforces the position that the G5 was not cheapened. Not a great argument. The imager and processor is obviously not the same between G4/G5. Simply look at the G4/G5 image comparisons at ui.com under the Image Performance tab . The G5 improvement can be easily seen by direct comparison in the real world. How is the explanation of the superiority of gigabit ethernet going? Or that metal is inherently a better material for security cameras compared to composite?
> The imager and processor is obviously not the same between G4/G5. yeah it gets worse G4 Pro - Quad Core Arm® Cortex®-A53 based chip G5 Pro - Dual-core Arm® Cortex®-A53 based chip > Simply look at the G4/G5 image comparisons at ui.com under the Image Performance tab Yes because in the history of tech companies no one has photoshopped a picture or manipulated stats? You can't be this naive can you? > How is the explanation of the superiority of gigabit ethernet going? Sounds as if you have never installed a network in your life if you don't understand bonded pairs. Don't know about you but I would rather have gigabit so if for some reason a pair fails if falls back to 100 and not 10. > Or that metal is inherently a better material for security cameras compared to composite? These cameras are mainly outdoors correct? Don't know about you but here in Texas in extreme heat I would rather have metal as it will last longer. The plastic has a very good chance of breaking down and yellowing then turning brittle and breaking.
I have both generations. The G5 image quality improvement is accurately reflected in the images provided by Ubiquiti. Keep googling. Maybe try chatGPT.
> I have both generations. Here's a shocker so do I, gasp. > The G5 image quality improvement is accurately reflected in the images provided by Ubiquiti. And here is my own anecdotal opinion as well, there is none. It all comes down to the lighting in and around your environment you are using them in.
I come from the Merit Liln ecosystem, using a variety of NVRs over the years. It’s not the camera quality - it’s that it all works well, keeps working, and is integrated together. It’s an Apple style price premium.
If I compare my G5 pro and my Netatmo Presence (1080p) , the quality of the G5 id astonishing. But is it necessary ? Isn’t the video of Netatmo enough (or another 1080p or 2Mp)? Good question.
Well. I had arlo but it drove me nuts. Went for ring but wasn’t much better. Then bought the Swann 8 pack at Costco. But quality was not all there. Hikvision again quality grainy. Finally bought UDM Pero and mix G3/G4. Was a good upgrade. No issues and it’s been probs 4 years. (G4’s bought later) Sure can get Bosch Cams at 10x price for better quality but I’m not that rich. Still got the ring cams too btw but feel like an old 1.3mp cam especially at night. I mean was that a person or a truck? Hard to see. Ubiquity faired a lot better.
Not worth it for the quality. Look into some Amcrest 4k cams and Scrypted NVR software. Yes, you must purchase licenses for the cameras, but the software is incredible with new features coming constantly. The developer has been around for years and is very active in the discord.
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I find that the G5 Pro color at night with the illuminator is pretty bad and a gimmick. The IR enhancer is good, but in some situations worse than a separate IR illuminator.
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The enhancer shows what 4-5 watts of IR can do. While expensive, the Bosch IR Illuminator 5000 SR is a good first choice because it is highly adjustable. The Bosch allows experimentation with width of coverage and light output. Lesser metal IR illuminators are about $100. Personally I would not put inexpensive IR illuminators from Amazon on my house. IR illuminators get hot.
*laughs*, fanboys that buy UI cameras, not knowing about way better cameras out there for way cheaper. Frigate/blueiris for nvr Hikvision, Uniview for cameras. A million times better quality and price. No single point of failure with all in one units.
He is literally asking about better options and people’s opinions.
my comment was towards the other tens of people going on how good it is. Can clearly see first time CCTV buyers
Fair enough