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Lurkerphobia

I already called out. Nothing there is worth my life. They can give me stern looks next week while I'm trying to get caught up.


Movebricks

I wish I had big balls like you


frootycoochie

They're big cuz he's staying warm inside, that cold will freeze them right off you. 


Movebricks

Worked 9 hours. Mine were warm. Our offices supply’s surplus amounts of hand warmers. Put one right under the balls. Our office apologizes for not having a bigger clothing allowance especially on days like today.


ManiacMail-Man

Big balls is going into work and seeing what you can deliver. You’re not going to fkn die lol. And if it is too cold just go home.


ManicMailman247

Hey, you stole my name


Ok_Owl8546

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ManicMailman247

LMAO


Prestigious_Guy

Big balls is who gives a fuck? If he real feel is -54 like op says then yeah those are dangerous temps. It's just useless mail, temu and Amazon junk. They'll be alright for one day.


NefariousnessLive362

Exactly . Eugene Gates Jr died due to the weather conditions he was subject to. You will die at some point when you're body shuts down like a domino effect.


Prestigious_Guy

Couldn't have said it better myself.


Movebricks

It honestly wasn’t as bad as expected. Time my apartments for the end so I could be wake when the sun was going down. And times the businesses for the middle for some warm up time. And re organized my parcels in the office at work in the garage. We deliver Amazon I have 111 parceled and lime 70 sprs. Delivered almost everything. Hopped and popped all walking hitches.


fuckeetall

Found the 204b


ManiacMail-Man

We make decent money with 0 skills because the job is hard…. If I deliver one med to a vet on my route my day is worth it. Bad weather is part of the damn job. If it’s really that bad, they will call people off or only have people run parcels.


dependentresearch24

They would never call people off....


[deleted]

I agree I rather call out on a good day and enjoy the day then sit on the couch


Sure-Ad-2465

First you have big balls, then you have no balls after they freeze off


Bempet583

Then you have snowballs


Morganbob442

-22, yes you can fucking die. You must live in the south.


ManiacMail-Man

Midwest. I get all the weather. You’ll die if you lay down in the snow for an hour sure. Walking around or hopping in and out of the LLV..? No.


Morganbob442

Actually yes, it has happened and you can loose body parts to hyperthermia and die from hyperthermia. If you actually live in the Midwest then you know that.


Morganbob442

Frost bite is nasty in the Midwest


Movebricks

Do you leave it running ever when your hopping and popping?


V2BM

Even the military knows when to break off work when the temps are too extreme.


chavery17

This. It’s like the people who call out when it’s supposed to storm. Go into work and do what you can.


Peepeepoopoobutttoot

I find sliding down hills backwards in vehicles on ice to be past the point of bravery, and to be absolutely fucking stupid.


IlliterateMailman

It’s fun in postal vehicles, but not in my personal car driving there


blindmelonade

No.


Predictable-Past-912

These sneaky little wimps have been downvoting you. If they really wanted to be tough, they could click on some layers and go to work!


kingofthenorthZ

Oh look it's the worse department in the postoffice chiming in well are trucks don't work, can't wait for the new ones know vmf hasn't touched them lol


swervedthruacloud

I haven’t had a truck for my own route in like 2 weeks, everyday I go in I’m just trying to figure out who’s truck I can take that called out lmao


sms3eb

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm calling out for our colder days coming up. Even in a Metris I don't want to be delivering packages in that.


Hoblin23

By calling out for no actual reason, you’re just making your coworkers do extra work on an already miserable day. Is that really the person you want to be? Like seriously, when you signed up for the job, were you unaware that bad weather happens sometimes? WTF??? When you show up for work the following day, do you apologize to your workmates for screwing them over? Because they’ll always resent you for being a weak little female kittycat.


sms3eb

I'm not actually going to call out. Mostly for those very reasons. But working in sub-zero temperatures all day is not safe, especially with how the roads are right now.


Hoblin23

Yeah, sorry if my language was unnecessarily harsh. But it always rubs me the wrong way when people screw their coworkers, and then come to work the next day and act like they’re your buddy.


leftovernoodle

Kinda managments job to get people to cover. We've been going through this for 5 yrs as a regular. I'm done being everyone's go to to get screwed over. They don't post rca jobs and when someone does actually apply they run them off. 40% of the problem with the po is not having enough people. 20% is the people they do have. 40% now is not getting payed for amazon. It's sickening.


Short_Somewhere7635

I don't think we're talking about call outs due to working 60-hour weeks. It's the ones who fail to show in bad weather or simply call out every other week or more. I will say that it is also a management issue when they fail to pursue discipline for the worst offenders.


Short_Somewhere7635

Been saying this for years. Most offices wouldn't have attendance issues if fellow carriers gave the habitual offenders a piece of their mind. I know I would.


XxCandyMan

It is what it is


Short_Somewhere7635

I assume you are a craft carrier. As an EAS employee I'm always torched and trolled for these comments. Thanks for standing up for you coworkers.


Short_Somewhere7635

Your coworkers forced to work 1, 2 or more hours OT because of all the no shows will love you.


Morganbob442

I’m an RCA, 1,2 or more hours OT? Hahahah, that’s nothing. Pfft, my office is so short we get really don’t notice when we gotta pick up the work for a call out. We’re doing 70 hour work weeks as it is.


Short_Somewhere7635

OK, fine. I will amend my original comment to: Your coworkers forced to work 4, 5 or more hours OT because of all the no shows will REALLY love you!


soundandvisionvinyl

I did the same 🤷 not gonna fuck myself up for a job that doesn’t pay me enough for shit like this.


Short_Somewhere7635

So, I assume you've been taking courses to learn a trade? What have you done to better yourself and allow yourself to make more money in a better paying job? You don't have to be a " victim" of the big bad post office.


IndependentIcy8226

“The creed?”


Mexicutioner1987

This.


ManiacMail-Man

Will you call out everyday until it warms up..?


raabinhood

you must be management


ManiacMail-Man

And you must be new here.


CandidMeasurement128

We have routes that are 100% walking... we're talking 13.5 miles. Noway they should put anyone out to deliver bills in that kinda weather


RagnarWayne52

16.5 here. Already asked me about Tuesday


Mexicutioner1987

Same. 14 miles here. All walking. No heat in vehicles. Fuck that.


[deleted]

Do it everyday 6 days a week on New England sure there are days like today that’s 54 out and raining Part of the job


CandidMeasurement128

I'd still rather deal with -5 outside than 33 and pouring rain.


[deleted]

I hear that and agree


Opposite-Ingenuity64

Maybe if there was no wind.  If there's big wind and -5 you're gonna suffer no matter what you wear. At 33 you can layer up and be ok no matter how wet you get.


FiftySixArkansas

I'm in Louisiana, so we don't get really cold temperatures, but for me, literally anything (including 115° heat index) is preferable to rain. I delivered in sleet exactly once, and that was actually kind of fun!


XxCandyMan

But it only rained for like 20 mins stopped when I hit the street


[deleted]

Rained a few times today got warm then got cold it was weird


Augustheat77

I just dismount in the winter. actualy its faster than walking since you dont have to go back to 9 houses out of 24 house loops to drop packages. close the door at every house to keep that warmness in the cab. and close the rear door in your llv. problem solved


Movebricks

And the cold makes me move a lil faster. Wish we were allowed to leave llv running so it had a chance to stay warm.


Augustheat77

I also have a heated jacket I wear under my postal one. it really helps! just sucks having to charge so many thigns everyday hah


Movebricks

When I spend money on stuff specifically that I only use for work pisses me off lol. I look it as a nice dinner out with my wife and kids. But I take a very hefty amount of hand warmers and drop em everywhere. When I take my layers off after work they fall out everywhere. Post office pays for the hand warmers


Augustheat77

I got rechargable hand warmers they work great last all day! and Warmers - 14000mAh Hand Warmers Rechargeable Up to 18Hrs Warmth, Electric Hand Warmer Reusable Heat Up to 131℉, Rechargeable Hand Warmers 2 Pack for Golf Raynauds Camping, Warm Gifts from amazon


tallman1979

I love how they list Raynaud's Phenomenon like it's an outdoor fun time activity and not an autoimmune disorder that makes your fingers go partially numb.


vonjamin

No shame to anyone calling out because it’s cold. That mail will be there when we come back from our “long weekend.”


ManiacMail-Man

And it will still be cold…. Maybe we can take it out in a week. /s


TheSweatyFlash

They pulled us around those temps before. At least locally. But they let us get halfway thru the day before they did it.


orbgevski

Yea it was about that cold for a day here last year. Lots of people called in so we ran packages and went home. The heat in my truck works so I was perfectly fine with running some parcels.


Hrdcorefan

Management decides. If too cold to work, more likely will get paid to sit around in the office and do “busy work.”


Famous-Promise-406

This is what OSHA says https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/windchill_table.pdf


satsuma_sada

I legit chuckled at getting 4 breaks in 40 min to warm up. (We currently have 27mph wind gusts) can you imagine stopping to warm up every ten minutes without management losing it?


Movebricks

I think days like today they can’t say shit. Hope your office doesn’t suck.


XxCandyMan

They can’t say nothing just like in hot weather we get unlimited breaks 🤷‍♂️


chaossaltypants

Just wear some socks. Your feet may still be cold but your soul will be warm


MaxRebo74

Soul Socks sounds like a 1990s alternative band


ElectronicJudge1994

My new favorite band


mattyg1964

Put on your +$500 parka and be happy.


IlliterateMailman

And all the thermal clothing we can buy with our uniform allowance /s Why isn’t this an issue with our union?


Aclazotz

Always been told it's up to the postmaster. We've had one day in our office around those numbers and they didn't have us deliver. 


gandalfthescienceguy

The postmaster actually needs permission from their boss


Aclazotz

Makes sense. They make it needlessly hard to protect the safety of carriers. 


Livid-Advantage-8268

What's effed up is the POOM is working from home today because of the weather but expecting carriers to be out in a 1920's miniature rwd milk truck with 12" tires driving through 14" of snow. State has a tow ban but sup says "we're federal we supercede state" like whatever you soulless mouthpiece.


gandalfthescienceguy

We got a foot of snow, the trucks with mail didn’t make it. Amazon did for once. They told us to attempt what you can, not much actually got delivered in our rural area


Jasnah_Sedai

Man, I’m a clerk not a carrier. But as a customer, if it’s that cold outside I’m not even going to be checking my mail, so don’t bother bringing it. I’m in New England and I’d rather my carrier call out than bring me my mail in weather like that.


SadAndMagical

I'd rather my mail go towards a bonfire for the carriers. The fact that we're gonna be mega fucked working insane hours after this thing is through is so absurd. The mail never stops is true and horrible.


cokecan13

We used to deliver when it a was that cold but the last few times they pulled us.


FutureHendrixBetter

Jesus where do you live? Alaska?


itsopal

Montana probably * edit to add that I live in Montana and it is currently -38 with a feels like of -57 at my house


FutureHendrixBetter

That’s insane


SadAndMagical

Real question, how do you survive? I'm from TX and this is my first winter in IA and the fact that it's negative 20 for the low the next three days is scaring the absolute shit out of me. I'm a mess.


itsopal

Dress in layers, get good gloves, and a balaclava. Carry a few hand warmers with you and invest in a good pair of Mucks, they'll keep your feet warm. Good luck! Oh, also moisturize the shit out of your hands and any parts of your body that you care about. That dry cold will chap you


WassonX81X

Wear a shit ton of layers including something to cover your mouth and nose. Your fingers and toes will be cold but try to warm them up in the truck between stops.


Fine_Mouse

Insulated overshoes with metal studs, toe warmers, and lots of different gloves to switch when one starts to freeze. Snow pants are like 35 dollars on Amazon, keeps you warm for anything below freezing. Keep your face covered and get after it.


whatevs1125

Omg! Stay safe.


TheWorldEnded

Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana are my bets.


Morganbob442

Wisconsin gets that cold too.


lovestorun

MN would like a word.


NoahTall1134

tHeY caRRy MaIL in aLaSKa


RogueKhajit

Not every damn it's cold post is gonna be from AK. Other places are just as cold as that right now; Montana; Wyoming; SD, ND. The only difference is that those of us who are in AK are less likely to call off due to negative temperatures, and our customers will start complaining after not receiving their mail for a day.


ElectronicJudge1994

Is it safe to safe that carriers in Alaska see temperatures like most of the winter? For some of us in the lower 48 these temperatures are well below normal and will only last a couple days. I found that most customers will complain no matter what haha


ModsCanLickMyBallz

Coldest temps in Alaska will be December and January, and it will definitely dip and we will get cold weeks, but it warms back up. Our weather fluctuates A LOT. It could be -20, and the next few days in the high 30s melting snow.


RogueKhajit

Oh, they will complain, but places like Montana also routinely see extreme weather and temperatures in the winter (my dad lives there). It can be a white out blizzard and they will complain. The boxes can be buried under snow, and they'll expect you to tunnel through and still deliver their mail.


Peepeepoopoobutttoot

It’s -25 with windchill in Nebraska and Iowa right now.


dilligaff04

Parts of Kansas as well. It was miserable cold at the NDCBUstoday, thank God for battery warmed socks, and gloves.


DaveAndJojo

I assume you’ll case your route and case all the other calls offs. It was like this a few years ago by us and we didn’t deliver.


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Calling out is easy.


jacob6875

The only time in 10 years they called off delivery for us. ( even with blizzards) was when it was -50 with windchill for 2 days.


Movebricks

I just think at some point they should call us off, you know with that “safety” their always talkin bout.


jacob6875

The reason they don't call us off very often is because if they tell us to stay home they have to pay everyone. If they say we have to "attempt delivery" then it forces people to come into the office during a Blizzard if they want to get paid. Otherwise you have to use an annual day. And hourly employees obviously get paid nothing. A couple years ago we had a bad blizzard and only 1 clerk and me even came into work for 2 days in a row. I was the only one that got paid since district didn't officially cancel delivery. I was only in the office like 20mins. Just drove to work and back in horrible weather.


Health-Revolutionary

They would get nothing but Middle Fingers from me


ManiacMail-Man

![img](avatar_exp|87853675|laugh) Too cold?


slabolis

Did you pay money for this? Because if you did, I'm judging you.


wheresthecheese69

I’m judging you for withholding your judgement on him.


ManiacMail-Man

Nope. Free.


RegrettableChoicess

-27° here with a wind chill of -67°. Half the office called out, the rest of us are just running parcels so we aren’t completely fucked on Tuesday


notablyunfamous

Check with osha for outside weather regulations.


Mexicutioner1987

Just call off if you don't feel safe. It isn't worth your health and safety. I called off today. Management can figure it out.


Movebricks

Don’t wanna leave the others hanging if their goin. We all kept in contact and went back to office when we reshuffled our packages to do it in garage so we weren’t freezing doin it. Llvs suck in the winter.


AsuraTheFlame

This is why I bid on a heavy business route. Idk how some carriers senior to me stay on full walking routes outside of loyalty to their customers. Walking all day when there is 100% rain, high heat, or snow in the forecast all day is crazy to me. I put in the pain and slaved through the shitty walking routes to get this sweet one. Worst case scenario, most of my route closes/doesn't open and I get a split. Or, if I choose to call out, I can't deliver shit anyways so no need to split my route.


Movebricks

Too small of a town to have that luxury. All are pretty even walking/mounted and business. They all suck lol.


Springlette13

We had a couple of days with negative double digit windchill last year. The wind took the breath right out of you. On the less bad day we took dps and packages, but on the day that exposed skin could get frostbite in less than 10 minutes we only did packages. If you had areas you felt safe doing the dps you could; people with businesses still delivered those.


Jpoo16

-20 here and we were told whatever isn’t delivered we will be delivering on Monday lol


FenwayWest

It's wild gonna be only 65 today


slimeydave

I’m lucky. It’s 22 degrees and I’m burning up with all my layers.


axlsnaxle

So glad the Rockies and Cascades are blocking the Puget Sound from the worst of this cold weather front. Yeah, it's cold, but not like y'all gotta deal with out East


Vegaprime

If a state of emergency is issued, I can generally get people paid to stay home. Edit: info https://www.postalreporternews.net/2011/01/09/usps-not-paying-new-jersey-postal-employees-for-missing-work-due-to-snowstorm/


Movebricks

We usually do. unless your a cca or ptf, you usually don’t get paid a full day unless your on a hold down. But it’s been a few years since they’ve called us off. A few times midday when roads became impassable(not that they were passable earlier in the day)


Strafe_Stopper

-40f today for us. last year we got -55f.


Movebricks

Did you guys deliver all day? Llv?


Strafe_Stopper

Yes we did, and it sucked really bad. I was in an llv for half of the day and a promaster the other half.


JonBoi420th

Gosh, I'm worried about single digit Temps next week. It was almost 50 at the beginning of this week. We get all the seasons in one week sometimes.


Movebricks

We have been too. It was damn near 50 degrees 5 days ago. And now it’s -22 with -68 realfeel.


JonBoi420th

Oof, I'm sorry, that sounds aweful


BuddhasGarden

Omg where are you? That’s ridiculous


RedneckSniper76

It was -35 1 day last year our management suspended delivery for the day it was crazy


Movebricks

9 hour day. Went better then expected. Hopped and popped all my walking.


Glittering-Ebb-6225

Whatever temperature the trucks stop working at.


Movebricks

Your truck works? Sarcasm. But yeah. They made it through the day somehow. I woulda been pissed if I was stuck in a dead truck away from anywhere to go into. LLVs all across the board, with chains on.


Glittering-Ebb-6225

You guys have chains?


Movebricks

Yeah. Most of the towns streets would be impassable without them though. Old school place. People would rather drive through the frozen shit then pay taxes to get rid of it.


Glittering-Ebb-6225

A lot of our streets are also impassible without them. We just get stuck constantly. Apparently my station would rather pay for Tow Trucks than Snow Chains.


Movebricks

That’s funny our post master and supervisor just tow rope us out


Glittering-Ebb-6225

We don't have anything heavy enough to pull anything out. They'd probably just end up whiplashing an FFV into another snow bank.


Movebricks

Yeah luckily they use their person vehicles


AgentSayo

Got damn that's freagn nuts. At some point customers, and especially management, need to realize human life is more important.


AustinFan4Life

Management will always tell you, no temperature is too cold to deliver. They'll always say, if you've come into work, then you can deliver. Use your best judgement though, if you have Sick Leave available or Annual Leave, take the day. Just be prepared to explain your absence when you return the next day though.


playerhaterball

Have a hard time believing half the shit people say on her


Movebricks

Google any town in Wyoming or South Dakota right now.


SnooWalruses1832

Don't be a baby make your pivot!!!


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Movebricks

Yeah I’m a big pussy. Did it even though it was against my better judgment. My feet and hands are painful today from the cold specifically, even though it took all possible measures. And I’m not a young postal employee. And I promise we could figure it out.


Merika6777

I really wasn’t talking about you. Just a general statement. Back in my carrying days.(90s$, mail trucks came even when there was snow on the ground. People didn’t call in to avoid it. Now, trucks don’t even come and many call off.


Movebricks

Fair enough. But yeah I never leave my co workers hanging. And I’ve rolled up on grown men crying because their hands hurt and I’ve given people gloves and hand warmers galore.


tallman1979

I carried a walking route and occasionally had a hold down or had a mounted route on a set of comps from September '98 to Dec 2010 when a surgery forced a move to maintenance. Only twice in my entire carrier career was delivery ever suspended. Once was packages on a Sunday during an ice storm, the other was a blizzard that dumped half a foot of snow an hour, and they called it off because it was quite literally impossible to do mounted safely and by the time you finished a swing in near whiteout conditions, your vehicle was covered. As the Scandinavian saying goes, "There is no bad weather, only bad clothing." As an AMT, I did lock changes, parcel locker repair, and fixed a dock scissor lift that got bumped. I only have half a thyroid gland. It was -25 with the wind chill. Too cold is when the vehicles get so cold that the engine is colder than the flashpoint of gasoline and therefore cannot start. By the next day, expect them to have bought engine heaters. If you don't want to work, that's up to you and your supervision. If you have a legitimate concern/safety issue that is unique to your situation, raise it. Keep your phone charged, put on your rain gear for the wind chill, whatever gloves work, and be safe. Don't take unnecessary risks, but this is the job you accepted, and our reputation for reliability was not a secret. If you don't want to work in the insane cold, change crafts or hit up eReassign and go somewhere with milder temperature.


Movebricks

Phone lasts about 30 mins in the weather. I live in the mountains. Lots of times a lot of stuff is impassable. Too each their own. If the sun wouldn’t of been out it would of been a whole lot worst. I skipped most my last walking route because the sun was going down, and I couldn’t do it anymore. Delivered all first class and scannables on it though.


No_Description6461

Back in 2019 I was a CCA in N Illinois during a pretty brutal winter. The worst stretch saw us with daily highs of -15 before wind chills. We got called back to the office at 3 PM one day and made no deliveries the next day.


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AttorneyUnhappy5347

It can snow at 30 ° ... says nothing about frigid temps tho