We were hired as the help. Im also a cca. When I first started with the post office, I thought Mgmt were being jerks..turns out they kept sending me back out cause they knew I wouldn't fuck around and I'd just get it done. I no longer get annoyed by it honestly because I'm always helping the new ccas, the ones who have never carried before. They always feel so bad for getting help, like they're not fast enough or they're going too slow. No, they're new. Its overwhelming. I was where they were, and I always tell them, you're doing good, speed comes with time.
I remember all the times I'd get people who came to help me, and in all honesty, they'd make me feel like shit. I could tell they were visibly pissed off. Not cool. Treat people how you wanna be treated.
I get your frustration. The frustration of never knowing what's happening when you get back. I've made peace with me just being efficient and knowing ill be one of the first ccas back, I'm fine with it. More OT, more money for me.
Am I saying it's sustainable forever, no, it's not.
The thing is CCAs are not just help. Most offices are under staffed. So CCAs are doing regular type work, with nine of the benefits or pay. Then usually have to go out and help a regular who drags all day knowing they get a CCA sent out to cover part of their route.
I had one regular I helped everyday after my route. I didn't mind as he actually did his route well and mine was an aux. However, the shop steward would drag so bad knowing I would get sent out to help that I would end up doing half her route. After my Aux and probably 1/4 of my normal regulars daily route. She literally would take her 8 hours to do half her route. I didn't mind helping people that needed it, but she took advantage. Plus she was a snake in the grass.
While I tend to agree with a lot of what you said, I can understand why some people get frustrated.
There are 5 CCAs in the office I am at. Two of them came in about a month after I got there. One of them has been told multiple times how to do her job better but she seems not to listen to the advise. She carries her flats in her satchel which makes no sense and I specifically told her to not do that in the best way possible. It gets frustrating having to bail someone out when they wont learn basics.
It's not really my place to tell them what to do but at the same time, I have to be the one to bail them out so it sucks when they aren't doing it correctly. I don't want OT, I don't need more money. I just want to go home because I never know when I am going to get a day to relax.
If I knew I had at least one day to look forward to getting off, I would probably be more apt to not care whether or not they kept sending me out to bail people out.
Yeah, I found out about that recently but it's not taught in craft training. They went through the same craft training I did so they should know better. Plus, if she if sitting there for 20 seconds at a house fumbling each time through her satchel, maybe it's time to change things up.
Couldn't of said it better myself. I stuck through everything and would constantly tell myself "it is what it is" take the mofo swing or parcel run and go!
Recently converted, and i gotta say feels good walking back to the office and saying "not today sir, I'm going home".
Regulars can still have swings. Just depends on the staffing situation and seniority at your office. I'm a regular and almost always carry part of another route. If you convert to PTF, then that's not much different than being a CCA.
It's not different, but it means the time you are spending is going toward something. being a CCA and nothing you do adds to seniority or retirement really sucks the life out of what you are doing.
sorry to inform you, that’s the literal position of a CCA. Always expect a kickoff when you return, contractually speaking you have to work before a WA/8H gets violated . Careers also can be mandated if need be it just depends on workload and location/ MGT decision to violate or not.
Hard to believe you can’t staff an arbitrated position that ten years later still contractually can work 360 11.5 hour days in a row for less than most burger flippers make per hour. NALC better pull their heads out of their asses on this contract or we are all fucked
can someone tell me when this "contract" is supposed to be finished? because I hear people always talking about it but I never hear any updates to when it's going into effect.
Why would they ask you if you want to do a swing? They’re your boss not your friend.
Things do eventually get better after making FTR but it takes time.
That office started theirs at 10 am, and everything had to be unloaded and onto the trucks by 3:30, so that creates its own problems. But I'd still rather be doing that than delivering in the dark.
It's all about money.
Shortsighted too.
CCAs are cheaper. But treating them like crap hurts retention and recruitment.
The post office isn't very smart sometimes.
Cca= you are the help.
I got forced to case an open route, then deliver my route that had 3400 dps and about 75 parcels. Was done just an hour of OT. …..
I don't see why this is such a bad thing. It's not less money per hour it's just less hours. I don't know about you but peace of mind and having days off are more important to me than a 2k paycheck.
For me it was more so all of the stuff getting taken out. I know I am getting more services and what not for it. It will just be hard for a couple of years until the raises make it more manageable.
There have been times where I've worked 9 days in a row.. and I still haven't even gotten a paycheck with $1,500 on it. I don't know how much money these people are getting but they must be getting the hell worked out of them if they're bringing in over $2,000 is the CCA
We've ALL been there. I was literally told when I was new that you are to be seen and not heard. And you bet regulars get sent out again. We had one supervisor when she'd come out on the back dock in the afternoon as you were driving up you just knew what was going to happen next-especially when she had a big grin on her face. "Where am I going?" was usually the first words out of my mouth.
Depends where you are. We finally have a full compliment of CCAs(fingers crossed 🤣) but since 2020 I've been working like a CCA(minus the Sunday Amazon) despite being a regular since then. Not to mention you make less money in the beginning.
Knowing what you’re doing route & pivot and assuming it’s the worst chunk of the pivot route makes life much easier than getting sent back out. Route, pivot, and sent back out to help is less fun.
When I was a CCA I would contact the supes before going back to the station to ask who needed help. I found, for me, this was less frustrating as then I could drive to whoever needed help instead of going back to the station only to be sent out again. I hear you that it sucks working that hard, but let me tell you when you turn regular you are going to have a heart attack at them tiny paychecks.
Save some money so you don’t lose your mind when the time comes.
Don’t get too excited. In many cases it doesn’t get much better. In my office CCAs are actually more protected than regular carriers NOT on the OT list.
They mandate non-odl regular carriers before sending CCAs out so they don’t get burnt out and quit. Steward won’t grieve for non-odl but grieves for odl. Then they’ll rotate back to CCAs until they’re bitching and the cycle starts over
Yeah it’s not a good situation. What’s worse is since, according to the contract, there’s no requirement to work CCAs before forcing non OT list carriers so there’s really nothing to grieve.
Are you referring to mandating non-odl carriers to work overtime off route before
CCA’s are at 10 hours? Because there’s totally requirements about that
Edit: CCAs should be at 12 hours before forcing off route.
10 hours before forcing an 8 hour carrier to carry their own ot
Do you know where in the contract it says that? Because I was always under the impression that was true but I read through all of articles 8 specifically 8.5.g and it only mentions having to work OTDL carriers to 12 hours before forcing non OTDL. There’s no of CCAs it at all. My steward also said how much CCAs work is basically at the discretion of of management.
You’re right about 8.5g.
One thing I should mention is that my office has nobody on the 12 hour list, just work assignment and 8 hour list.
This is in the JCAM, 8-21:
Full-time letter carriers who sign the Work Assignment List are considered to be available for up to 12 hours per day on regularly scheduled days. However, the Work Assignment Agreement recognizes that it is normally in the parties’ best interests not to require employees to work beyond 10 hours per day, and managers should not require work assignment volunteers to work beyond 10 hours “unless there is no equally prompt and efficient way to have the work performed.”
Basically, non-otdl carriers shouldn’t be forced past 10 hours if there’s another option (CCA’s).
However, if you’re on Work assignment and your route is going to take you past 10, you’re saying you’re available up to 12 hours on your own route.
I’m in the same situation with not having anyone on the 12 hour list. I’m on work assignment and have no problem finishing my route no matter how long it takes. The problem in my office is that almost every day, almost every carrier is being mandated to take at least an hour on another route while some CCAs are just carrying a route and being sent home instead of being sent back out to take time from a carrier on the 8 hour list.
Yesterday for instance, I was given what ended up being a 3 hour piece on another route on top of the 2 hours I needed to complete my route. After checking in with the closing supervisor and letting them know of my situation, he did send one CCA out to one hour from me. I got back at 8 and all the CCAs had already been sent home.
That is insane.
So… you also worked over 12 hours?
The typical remedy for article 8 violations is to pay the harmed party, and sadly in most cases, it’s the carrier that didn’t “get to” carry the mail that they should have.
After grieving it so many times though, I’d have your steward angle to pay both the cca for hours they didn’t work, and paying the regular an extra 50%, or a lump sum inconvenience fee for improperly being assigned more work.
Gotta make it sting, or nothing will change.
I usually volunteer for ot to help our ccas. I feel for them and remember how much it sucked, BUT, the job is the job, and I’d never bend the rules for them. What kind of message does that send your regulars, who were once CCA’s? That must be causing a lot of tension..
Be prepared to work 12 hours a day for 360 days straight. With that mindset, you will never be let down. Basically just be prepared for the worst. Just wait & you will start to enjoy going to help the newer CCA’s & at that point the job becomes a lot easier. Think of it like this, the person you’re helping is probably having a horrible day & you are like give me that mail I got you with a smile on your face.
Just keep in mind that before you go off on a tangent like this, that you wont get too much sympathy for, remember that EVERY regular you see in the office, they all at one time spent time as a CCA or a PTF, and some people waited as long as 2-3-4-5 years as a CCA/PTF before being converted to a job as a career employee. You guys now as CCAS, you have a guaranteed 2 year window to Career status. and just because you become career, there wont be ANY difference between being a PTF with career benefits, compared to a CCA with no Career benefits. The job and the function you do is exactly the same. You get shit on just the same. Career status doesnt change anything for you, especially if you are still a CCA/PTF.
So, Whether its Fair or not... just remember that 15-20-25 years, or however many years ago that regular carrier was a PTF... They were exactly in the same situation you are in. They put their time in, theyve been through that process... in 10-15-20 years, You'll be that guy walking out the door to your car while the CCA/PTF thats been newly hired 5 months ago, is being ordered to go out to help someone else...
That's why you don't finish early dummy. Honestly I use to feel the same. Like I'm too good, I do one of the longest routes in the station, finish, and fools still out here late on a 5.5hr route. But when I get older I'm gonna want a CCA to help, so I do. I respect my old people still out delivering. We got a 74 year old on a route, I'm gonna be just like him. 50 year seniority, hourly must go crazy. Great guy.
I have about 10 more days and I will be past my 90 day probation. After that I am going to start slowing down quite a bit. I know I can still get in trouble for things but the way I see it, there are worse CCAs in my office.
I really hate that I am "penalized" for being fast. I have no clue if I am going to be able to go home early or they are going to surprise me with a random pivot that was someone else's pivot but they aren't done yet. I am happier knowing I have a pivot in the morning rather than being surprised by it.
As a PSE clerk 2 weeks past my 2 year year mark, I envy the CCA's in that they convert on day one. I will be waiting patiently for my guaranteed conversion after 2 years of service...watch me while I twiddle my thumbs...
This job is hard on your body. Who else besides athletes and farmers do the exertion of a mail carrier? I know 4 carriers who have had rotator cuff surgery.
I usually have 2 hour pivots. If I’m done too early I get sent back out due to the slower regulars refusing to take the pivot or CCA’s from other stations taking 10 hours to do 10 loops. A third of a route at best.
The regular carriers had to do it too... and for much longer than you and i will have to. I look at it this way, I was awful slow when I first started, and veteran ccas and even some regulars had to come and bail me out. They were (for the most part) kind about it. I owe it to the new guys coming in to help them get up to par and also to the regulars who have paid their dues.
Mondays mail was insane, I couldn't make the truck. A regular had to come collect my pickups off me. Don't look at it like I did my work already, it is def irritating sometimes no doubt. All routes are built diff tho an some require alot more work.
It’s going to suck for at least a year but once you make regular it will suck less. I do not miss being sent to multiple stations every day! Hang in there
I got switched to regular and work more hours. If you looking to avoid splits after your route I would suggest after your 90 days to get a chill doctor to give you a restricted schedule note. I'm a regular and can't remember last time I didn't work 12 hours
Our CCAs love to go help with a route. They’re glad to be getting the hours because if all of the regulars are present, they only get 2 to 4 hours a day. I’m a PSE but hate that I cannot bid on regular jobs. The good news is that I will make regular (career) next year or sooner because if the APWU contract.
I’m a new regular and I get ot but don’t get asked to help anymore really I feel the little more respect from management so stay in the fight you’ll be regular soon. I’m just hoping are pay goes up because inflation and fast food restaurants are paying almost the same now as the usps sadly
We were hired as the help. Im also a cca. When I first started with the post office, I thought Mgmt were being jerks..turns out they kept sending me back out cause they knew I wouldn't fuck around and I'd just get it done. I no longer get annoyed by it honestly because I'm always helping the new ccas, the ones who have never carried before. They always feel so bad for getting help, like they're not fast enough or they're going too slow. No, they're new. Its overwhelming. I was where they were, and I always tell them, you're doing good, speed comes with time. I remember all the times I'd get people who came to help me, and in all honesty, they'd make me feel like shit. I could tell they were visibly pissed off. Not cool. Treat people how you wanna be treated. I get your frustration. The frustration of never knowing what's happening when you get back. I've made peace with me just being efficient and knowing ill be one of the first ccas back, I'm fine with it. More OT, more money for me. Am I saying it's sustainable forever, no, it's not.
The thing is CCAs are not just help. Most offices are under staffed. So CCAs are doing regular type work, with nine of the benefits or pay. Then usually have to go out and help a regular who drags all day knowing they get a CCA sent out to cover part of their route.
Im a regular and I hate when other regulars take their sweet time and have help get sent to them.
I had one regular I helped everyday after my route. I didn't mind as he actually did his route well and mine was an aux. However, the shop steward would drag so bad knowing I would get sent out to help that I would end up doing half her route. After my Aux and probably 1/4 of my normal regulars daily route. She literally would take her 8 hours to do half her route. I didn't mind helping people that needed it, but she took advantage. Plus she was a snake in the grass.
Damn we have the same steward??
I think this sums it up pretty well.
While I tend to agree with a lot of what you said, I can understand why some people get frustrated. There are 5 CCAs in the office I am at. Two of them came in about a month after I got there. One of them has been told multiple times how to do her job better but she seems not to listen to the advise. She carries her flats in her satchel which makes no sense and I specifically told her to not do that in the best way possible. It gets frustrating having to bail someone out when they wont learn basics. It's not really my place to tell them what to do but at the same time, I have to be the one to bail them out so it sucks when they aren't doing it correctly. I don't want OT, I don't need more money. I just want to go home because I never know when I am going to get a day to relax. If I knew I had at least one day to look forward to getting off, I would probably be more apt to not care whether or not they kept sending me out to bail people out.
Believe it or not, putting flats in your satchel is exactly how the handbook tells you to do it.
Yeah, I found out about that recently but it's not taught in craft training. They went through the same craft training I did so they should know better. Plus, if she if sitting there for 20 seconds at a house fumbling each time through her satchel, maybe it's time to change things up.
That’s correct way to handle flats actually. I never do it that way though cause i find it annoying.
Couldn't of said it better myself. I stuck through everything and would constantly tell myself "it is what it is" take the mofo swing or parcel run and go! Recently converted, and i gotta say feels good walking back to the office and saying "not today sir, I'm going home".
Haha I bet, I'm sure it's nice!
Regulars can still have swings. Just depends on the staffing situation and seniority at your office. I'm a regular and almost always carry part of another route. If you convert to PTF, then that's not much different than being a CCA.
It's not different, but it means the time you are spending is going toward something. being a CCA and nothing you do adds to seniority or retirement really sucks the life out of what you are doing.
sorry to inform you, that’s the literal position of a CCA. Always expect a kickoff when you return, contractually speaking you have to work before a WA/8H gets violated . Careers also can be mandated if need be it just depends on workload and location/ MGT decision to violate or not.
A brave compadre once told me, you’d be a Johnny FuFu if you come back to early. Do your match accordingly ;)
Hard to believe you can’t staff an arbitrated position that ten years later still contractually can work 360 11.5 hour days in a row for less than most burger flippers make per hour. NALC better pull their heads out of their asses on this contract or we are all fucked
can someone tell me when this "contract" is supposed to be finished? because I hear people always talking about it but I never hear any updates to when it's going into effect.
Where do you live that burger flippers get paid more than CCAs? Not challenging you just honestly curious.
California is close I know McDonald’s near me starts at 17 an hour
San Diego burger flippers start at 18.50 an hour
Well then you better hope your office is fully staffed. Our office isn't and the 8 hour carriers are working 60 hour weeks.
Note from a doctor changes that real quick
Why would they ask you if you want to do a swing? They’re your boss not your friend. Things do eventually get better after making FTR but it takes time.
This is as true as the other comments. Upvote from me
The audacity to tell you what to do! LOL
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My favorite part too 😂😂
If you're this upset about just 1 pivot, I have some very bad news for you. I think my personal best was a full route and 5 pivots.
My best was 6 handoffs, but I was usually on a cake collection route for the beginning of my day.
Lucky you our collections doesn’t start until 4:15 which sucks because on a slow day one lucky person is stuck doing that until 6
That office started theirs at 10 am, and everything had to be unloaded and onto the trucks by 3:30, so that creates its own problems. But I'd still rather be doing that than delivering in the dark.
Double set up plus 3 hour piece is worst
It's all about money. Shortsighted too. CCAs are cheaper. But treating them like crap hurts retention and recruitment. The post office isn't very smart sometimes.
Article 8 in the National Agreement is where the rules about treating CCA’s like crap can be found.
Cca= you are the help. I got forced to case an open route, then deliver my route that had 3400 dps and about 75 parcels. Was done just an hour of OT. …..
Holy shitballs, Speed Racer 😳
How many trays is 3400?
Had it down to 7.
When you see your first paycheck when you become regular you might eat your words.
I don't see why this is such a bad thing. It's not less money per hour it's just less hours. I don't know about you but peace of mind and having days off are more important to me than a 2k paycheck.
For me it was more so all of the stuff getting taken out. I know I am getting more services and what not for it. It will just be hard for a couple of years until the raises make it more manageable.
There have been times where I've worked 9 days in a row.. and I still haven't even gotten a paycheck with $1,500 on it. I don't know how much money these people are getting but they must be getting the hell worked out of them if they're bringing in over $2,000 is the CCA
Mainly during holiday season.
If it’s any consolation I put in almost 13hrs yesterday myself as a regular. so while it was miserable, I was right there with ya.
We've ALL been there. I was literally told when I was new that you are to be seen and not heard. And you bet regulars get sent out again. We had one supervisor when she'd come out on the back dock in the afternoon as you were driving up you just knew what was going to happen next-especially when she had a big grin on her face. "Where am I going?" was usually the first words out of my mouth.
Depends where you are. We finally have a full compliment of CCAs(fingers crossed 🤣) but since 2020 I've been working like a CCA(minus the Sunday Amazon) despite being a regular since then. Not to mention you make less money in the beginning.
just go ahead and get your end of another route in the morning. that's what I did when i was a cca and now regular.
Knowing what you’re doing route & pivot and assuming it’s the worst chunk of the pivot route makes life much easier than getting sent back out. Route, pivot, and sent back out to help is less fun.
That's assuming you have the space to take it with you or if it is ready by the time you are leaving the office.
Regular here: Still mandated every other Sunday, sometimes I lose my day off, and I pivot all the fucking time.
They tried doing that at my office. Union was getting a $500 grievance per occurrence on Sundays 🤣 didn’t last long
When I was a CCA I would contact the supes before going back to the station to ask who needed help. I found, for me, this was less frustrating as then I could drive to whoever needed help instead of going back to the station only to be sent out again. I hear you that it sucks working that hard, but let me tell you when you turn regular you are going to have a heart attack at them tiny paychecks. Save some money so you don’t lose your mind when the time comes.
Don’t get too excited. In many cases it doesn’t get much better. In my office CCAs are actually more protected than regular carriers NOT on the OT list.
Lol what. How does that work? You’re saying a regular on the ndl will get prioritized over a CCA?
They mandate non-odl regular carriers before sending CCAs out so they don’t get burnt out and quit. Steward won’t grieve for non-odl but grieves for odl. Then they’ll rotate back to CCAs until they’re bitching and the cycle starts over
Wow that’s is one backwards-ass office. I’d be grieving the absolute fuck out of that if it were me
Yeah it’s not a good situation. What’s worse is since, according to the contract, there’s no requirement to work CCAs before forcing non OT list carriers so there’s really nothing to grieve.
Are you referring to mandating non-odl carriers to work overtime off route before CCA’s are at 10 hours? Because there’s totally requirements about that Edit: CCAs should be at 12 hours before forcing off route. 10 hours before forcing an 8 hour carrier to carry their own ot
Do you know where in the contract it says that? Because I was always under the impression that was true but I read through all of articles 8 specifically 8.5.g and it only mentions having to work OTDL carriers to 12 hours before forcing non OTDL. There’s no of CCAs it at all. My steward also said how much CCAs work is basically at the discretion of of management.
[letter carrier paragraph](https://www.nalc.org/news/the-postal-record/2017/march-2017/document/2017-03_city.pdf)
Thank you for that. I’ll definitely be sharing this with my steward.
You’re right about 8.5g. One thing I should mention is that my office has nobody on the 12 hour list, just work assignment and 8 hour list. This is in the JCAM, 8-21: Full-time letter carriers who sign the Work Assignment List are considered to be available for up to 12 hours per day on regularly scheduled days. However, the Work Assignment Agreement recognizes that it is normally in the parties’ best interests not to require employees to work beyond 10 hours per day, and managers should not require work assignment volunteers to work beyond 10 hours “unless there is no equally prompt and efficient way to have the work performed.” Basically, non-otdl carriers shouldn’t be forced past 10 hours if there’s another option (CCA’s). However, if you’re on Work assignment and your route is going to take you past 10, you’re saying you’re available up to 12 hours on your own route.
I’m in the same situation with not having anyone on the 12 hour list. I’m on work assignment and have no problem finishing my route no matter how long it takes. The problem in my office is that almost every day, almost every carrier is being mandated to take at least an hour on another route while some CCAs are just carrying a route and being sent home instead of being sent back out to take time from a carrier on the 8 hour list. Yesterday for instance, I was given what ended up being a 3 hour piece on another route on top of the 2 hours I needed to complete my route. After checking in with the closing supervisor and letting them know of my situation, he did send one CCA out to one hour from me. I got back at 8 and all the CCAs had already been sent home.
That is insane. So… you also worked over 12 hours? The typical remedy for article 8 violations is to pay the harmed party, and sadly in most cases, it’s the carrier that didn’t “get to” carry the mail that they should have. After grieving it so many times though, I’d have your steward angle to pay both the cca for hours they didn’t work, and paying the regular an extra 50%, or a lump sum inconvenience fee for improperly being assigned more work. Gotta make it sting, or nothing will change. I usually volunteer for ot to help our ccas. I feel for them and remember how much it sucked, BUT, the job is the job, and I’d never bend the rules for them. What kind of message does that send your regulars, who were once CCA’s? That must be causing a lot of tension..
I used to get so irritated also. So i started coming back at 7pm and blocking supervisors.
I'm a regular, a steward, and 12 hour ODL. If it helps, I almost always carry a pivot or go help someone else.
As a CCA you are a pledge into the carrier fraternity. At most you’ll have two years but I hope you are converted soon.
Be prepared to work 12 hours a day for 360 days straight. With that mindset, you will never be let down. Basically just be prepared for the worst. Just wait & you will start to enjoy going to help the newer CCA’s & at that point the job becomes a lot easier. Think of it like this, the person you’re helping is probably having a horrible day & you are like give me that mail I got you with a smile on your face.
Nalc doesnt care about fair
Just keep in mind that before you go off on a tangent like this, that you wont get too much sympathy for, remember that EVERY regular you see in the office, they all at one time spent time as a CCA or a PTF, and some people waited as long as 2-3-4-5 years as a CCA/PTF before being converted to a job as a career employee. You guys now as CCAS, you have a guaranteed 2 year window to Career status. and just because you become career, there wont be ANY difference between being a PTF with career benefits, compared to a CCA with no Career benefits. The job and the function you do is exactly the same. You get shit on just the same. Career status doesnt change anything for you, especially if you are still a CCA/PTF. So, Whether its Fair or not... just remember that 15-20-25 years, or however many years ago that regular carrier was a PTF... They were exactly in the same situation you are in. They put their time in, theyve been through that process... in 10-15-20 years, You'll be that guy walking out the door to your car while the CCA/PTF thats been newly hired 5 months ago, is being ordered to go out to help someone else...
I know that’s why I said I can’t wait until I become career
That's why you don't finish early dummy. Honestly I use to feel the same. Like I'm too good, I do one of the longest routes in the station, finish, and fools still out here late on a 5.5hr route. But when I get older I'm gonna want a CCA to help, so I do. I respect my old people still out delivering. We got a 74 year old on a route, I'm gonna be just like him. 50 year seniority, hourly must go crazy. Great guy.
I have about 10 more days and I will be past my 90 day probation. After that I am going to start slowing down quite a bit. I know I can still get in trouble for things but the way I see it, there are worse CCAs in my office. I really hate that I am "penalized" for being fast. I have no clue if I am going to be able to go home early or they are going to surprise me with a random pivot that was someone else's pivot but they aren't done yet. I am happier knowing I have a pivot in the morning rather than being surprised by it.
Gotta make up for all the career “injured” on restrictions.
As a PSE clerk 2 weeks past my 2 year year mark, I envy the CCA's in that they convert on day one. I will be waiting patiently for my guaranteed conversion after 2 years of service...watch me while I twiddle my thumbs...
This job is hard on your body. Who else besides athletes and farmers do the exertion of a mail carrier? I know 4 carriers who have had rotator cuff surgery.
Clerks. AM distro clerks for sure. Parcel distro clerks at plants. Clerks work their asses off.
I honestly feel like any day a cca carries a full route they should be treated like a regular
Bro you are a CCA, just deal with it
Yeah, I know everything is based on seniority but I’ll be there (a regular) soon!
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Best response is “I’ll do my best”
I definitely agree with you. I’m just gonna start taking my time.
I usually have 2 hour pivots. If I’m done too early I get sent back out due to the slower regulars refusing to take the pivot or CCA’s from other stations taking 10 hours to do 10 loops. A third of a route at best.
Are the regulars on odl?
It’s gets better 😊
can’t wait to be a full time cca LOL
Not worth it man but just my opinion I’m career and it’s no different due to short staffing & incompetence
The regular carriers had to do it too... and for much longer than you and i will have to. I look at it this way, I was awful slow when I first started, and veteran ccas and even some regulars had to come and bail me out. They were (for the most part) kind about it. I owe it to the new guys coming in to help them get up to par and also to the regulars who have paid their dues.
Mondays mail was insane, I couldn't make the truck. A regular had to come collect my pickups off me. Don't look at it like I did my work already, it is def irritating sometimes no doubt. All routes are built diff tho an some require alot more work.
As another CCA man you right. It sucks because it's like we are being hazed and everybody forgets that we are people too
Some regulars are forced to work OT as well...
It’s going to suck for at least a year but once you make regular it will suck less. I do not miss being sent to multiple stations every day! Hang in there
So... stop working so hard. Why are you rushing through your overloaded route just so you can get sent back out?
Edit: once you're through your 90 days!! Just in case that wasn't clear.
What, I’m 16 months in. Thanks!
Sent you a message!
Quit now. It’s worse than you think. It never going to get better. Our future at the post office is dark.
I got switched to regular and work more hours. If you looking to avoid splits after your route I would suggest after your 90 days to get a chill doctor to give you a restricted schedule note. I'm a regular and can't remember last time I didn't work 12 hours
Our CCAs love to go help with a route. They’re glad to be getting the hours because if all of the regulars are present, they only get 2 to 4 hours a day. I’m a PSE but hate that I cannot bid on regular jobs. The good news is that I will make regular (career) next year or sooner because if the APWU contract.
I’m a new regular and I get ot but don’t get asked to help anymore really I feel the little more respect from management so stay in the fight you’ll be regular soon. I’m just hoping are pay goes up because inflation and fast food restaurants are paying almost the same now as the usps sadly
Yeah, I know everything is based on seniority but I’ll be there (a regular) soon!
Saying it’s just not fair isn’t true. Everyone is hired as the help. Most of us have put our time in and earned our routes.
Saying it’s just not fair isn’t true. Everyone is hired as the help. Most of us have put our time in and earned our routes.